The View: Week of 10/14/2024

[falltime]

Monday, Oct. 14 – former co-host Rosie Perez (actor, “Before”)

Tuesday, Oct. 15 – Pharrell Williams (producer, “Piece by Piece”); Chris Wallace (author, “Countdown 1960: The Behind-the-Scenes Story of the 312 Days that Changed America’s Politics Forever”)

Wednesday, Oct. 16 – Mark Cuban, Kevin O’Leary and Daniel Lubetzky (cast, ABC’s “Shark Tank”)

Thursday, Oct. 17 – Stanley Tucci (actor, “Conclave”; author, “A Diary of Food, Family, Friends, Love, Loss”)

Friday, Oct. 18 – Eddie Redmayne (actor, “The Day of the Jackal”); “The View” celebrates Sunny Hostin’s Birthday, Oct. 18

[Haleth]

Ok. Could be some interesting things, aside from the commercial for Shark Tank and Sunny’s birthday. 

[Glitches]

Before is a miniseries premiering on Apple+TV on October 25.

Piece by Piece is now playing in theaters. 

Conclave premieres in theaters on October 25.

Day of the Jackal starts streaming on Peacock on November 7. 

[Haleth]

Sara got a little feisty today, pushing back on what Sunny said. I like this less wish washy Sara but she still sounds too rehearsed.

Ana had the line of the day about Trump having to deport himself.

And again that disgusting commercial. Click. 

Edited October 14 by Haleth

[KittyQ]

1 hour ago, Haleth said:

Sara got a little feisty today, pushing back on what Sunny said. I like this less wish washy Sara but she still sounds too rehearsed.

Maybe she had to work herself up to it. :-)

Apparently, Sunny thinks that identifying how something would be done differently is the same as throwing someone under the bus. I can tell her that outside of politics, people are asked this kind of question all the time in performance appraisals and promotion discussions. There's a way to answer without casting blame but letting the interviewer know that you are prepared to improve on the status quo. Kamala should have been experienced enough to thread that needle. 

[Shrek]

The most surprising thing about the show today was that it took Anna more than 1 minute to name drop someone.

Other than that it was Sunny shouting over everyone rather than actually listening to what people were saying. First she shouted over Sarah, then it was shouting over Alyssa, then it was Anna's turn to be shouted over & when Whoopie tried to stop her she just shouted louder over everyone & it ended up with nobody saying anything coherent because Sunny wouldn't STFU. A complete waste of everyone's time.

Sarah trying to say that Trump has to start following the rules & the law was one of the most ridiculous comments she has ever made. On what planet has he  given any indication that he wants to or is willing to follow any rules ever? He just makes the rules up as he goes along & if anyone raises so much as hand he just ignores them & carries on doing what he wants. The legal system in the USA is so fucked up that he still hasn't had to answer for 1/6 years later, and now he thinks he has immunity from anything he does, ever, because he knows that his sycophants on the SC will back him up if it ever gets that far.

[Haleth]

1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

Kamala should have been experienced enough to thread that needle. 

Yeah, this was a blunder.  Kamala’s team should have anticipated the question coming up some time and had a prepared answer. It didn’t matter that she had an answer later, the sound bite was already there. My husband and I were discussing just this thing last night. Kamala should have listed some of their achievements followed by plans on how she would continue the work. Always focus on the positive. 

[bluegirl147]

31 minutes ago, Shrek said:

Sarah trying to say that Trump has to start following the rules & the law was one of the most ridiculous comments she has ever made.

Like last week when she said voters should vote with their heart or was it voters needed to look at the candidates hearts before voting for them Sara can be extremely naive.  I get that she wants to be a positive person but unfortunately politics has become a blood sport and as long as Trump is in it there will be a lot of rule breaking. 

19 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Yeah, this was a blunder.  Kamala’s team should have anticipated the question coming up some time and had a prepared answer. It didn’t matter that she had an answer later, the sound bite was already there.

And this part of the false both sideism.  What Kamala said is being rehashed and dissected to death and over here Trump is saying things that make him sound like an even bigger idiot than ever and the media just shrugs their shoulders like well what can you expect from him..

[Haleth]

3 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

And this part of the false both sideism.  What Kamala said is being rehashed and dissected to death and over here Trump is saying things that make him sound like an even bigger idiot than ever and the media just shrugs their shoulders like well what can you expect from him

Not to mention suddenly the health of an elderly candidate isn’t a concern, as they discussed in the first segment. 

Edited October 14 by Haleth

[GiveMeSpace]

It really annoys me when The View panel laments the media coverage of what is actually going on in the world. The media doesn't do this and the media doesn't do that *while checks notes, they are the top daytime news show  They seem to act like they are not themselves, "the media" who is shucking crappy merchandise in the show and talking about reddit topics? Gtfooh with that. Pot meet kettle. Also, Sarah, yes, I refer to you as Pollyanna, in my living room. 

Edited October 15 by GiveMeSpace
To specify where

[Back Atcha]

12 hours ago, Shrek said:

Other than that it was Sunny shouting over everyone rather than actually listening to what people were saying. First she shouted over Sarah, then it was shouting over Alyssa, then it was Anna's turn to be shouted over & when Whoopie tried to stop her she just shouted louder over everyone & it ended up with nobody saying anything coherent because Sunny wouldn't STFU. A complete waste of everyone's time.

Time for Sunny to devote 100% of her time to her writing and to all those EVENTS she loves so much.  Say buh-bye to The View.  Something must be wrong at home; she's NOT a Happy Camper.  There were many of us who haven't appreciated her for a long time; now she makes watching the show extremely difficult.  Just another Mean Girl.

[mispickel]

I think Sunny is slightly more tolerable on the podcast though, when it's just her and Teta. Ana, meanwhile, continues to be a name dropper.

Who's the big guest lined up for next Monday?

[GHScorpiosRule]

Oh for FUCK'S SAKE! That letter to Hax was originally written and submitted 14 YEARS AGO. Carolyn is away and when she is, old letters are submitted. Just like the commentators in the column, these women or whoever does their research, failed to note the editor's note of "Carolyn is away...originally submitted on October 2010 and lightly edited."

So Joy, your response is moot, and Sunny's sourface is also, well, not needed, because one, I read that letter, and the letter writer had so much contempt already for her husband before she found evidence of his cheating and there is no concern for her children. And Hax called her out on it. This isn't a warm loving wife who still loves her husband. She doesn't.

[Mollywolly555]

17 hours ago, GiveMeSpace said:

It really annoys me when The View panel laments the media coverage of what is actually going on in the world. The media doesn't do this and the media doesn't do that *while checks notes, they are the top daytime news show  They seem to act like they are not themselves, "the media" who is shucking crappy merchandise in the show and talking about reddit topics? Gtfooh with that. Pot meet kettle. Also, Sarah, yes, I refer to you as Pollyanna, in my living room. 

Yes x1000

[Back Atcha]

I don't know if Whoopi didn't understand the surgery she underwent or she doesn't want to say the word CATARACTS!  Every time she explains that they "removed my lenses" and put in new ones,  she's almost correct.

If one Googles "what IS cataract surgery," they come up with this: cataract surgery is the only way to restore vision. The operation is straightforward and effective. It involves removing the clouded lens from the lens capsule and replacing it with an artificial one. A patient’s vision starts to return within a few hours of surgery.

Did you notice?  "removing the...lens."

If Whoopi won't, I (not a medical professional), will diagnose her vision problem. She had cataracts for years. They were finally diagnosed...or her doctor found a way to "explain" the diagnosis that Whoopi would accept.

• Quick operation.
• It's a miracle!

It's a miracle to most of us who had cataracts removed.  Clearer, brighter vision.  VOILA!  

P.S. Please tell Joy.

Edited October 15 by Back Atcha

[Haleth]

Yeah, when Whoopi said she had her lenses removed I said “that’s cataract surgery!”  (I agree, Back, it’s easy and so worth it!)

[sugarbaker design]

46 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

I don't know if Whoopi didn't understand the surgery she underwent or she doesn't want to say the word CATARACTS!  

Does this mean Whoop doesn't get her insurance premium refund?!  😉

[Back Atcha]

3 hours ago, Haleth said:

Yeah, when Whoopi said she had her lenses removed I said “that’s cataract surgery!”  (I agree, Back, it’s easy and so worth it!)

Back to Whoopi in a minute.  When I had mine done, both were "advised," but Medicare said one wasn't "bad enough yet" for their insurance to cover.  So months later I had the second one done.  It was great having only one  GREAT eye. I could tell the difference in so many ways...just close/open the bad eye.  That surgery was almost 20yrs ago; things have probably improved since then, but for me it was STILL a miracle.

As for Whoopi, is she just ignorant about her eye surgery--her cataract(s) surgery?  Is she vain?  Is she just better than the rest of us and was born with a SPECIAL lens...and replaced with a SPECIAL lens?  Inquiring minds, etc.

[TheGreenKnight]

19 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

 Something must be wrong at home; she's NOT a Happy Camper.  

I doubt that. I think it's most likely that working with Alyssa and Sara is a chore since the two usually try to tag team Sunny most of the time, they're insufferable. And I couldn't help noticing how very excited Alyssa was to criticize Kamala finally, she was practically salivating. It's probably been hard for her to keep up that pretense that she's some kind of fair and unbiased "analyst," lol, in the time since Biden dropped out rather than one person giving an opinion like all the other ladies. She knew she couldn't immediately transition into criticizing Kamala nonstop after doing it to Biden for so long without her motivation being obvious. What a hack.

And it was very nice to see Perez, that was quite a surprise. Considering she didn't show once during the entire 25th anniversary season, I assumed she would never come back to this show.

Edited October 16 by TheGreenKnight

[Ellis Bell Lives]

1 hour ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I doubt that. I think it's most likely that working with Alyssa and Sara is a chore since the two usually try to tag team Sunny most of the time, they're insufferable. And I couldn't help noticing how very excited Alyssa was to criticize Kamala finally, she was practically salivating. It's probably been hard for her to keep up that pretense that she's some kind of fair and unbiased "analyst," lol, in the time since Biden dropped out rather than one person giving an opinion like all the other ladies. She knew she couldn't immediately transition into criticizing Kamala nonstop after doing it to Biden for so long without her motivation being obvious. What a hack.

Alyssa has endorsed Kamala and was in Pennsylvania last week campaigning with Liz Cheney and a few former Trump staffers on her behalf. 

Alyssa and Sara are not the problem.  They invite open discourse at the table.  Sunny, Joy and Whoopi consistently shut down any and all critical questions directed at the Biden administration.  Every time Alyssa brings up bread and butter issues Joy and the other two quickly shut her down listing other accomplishments which have nothing to do with top voter concerns such as inflation and immigration.  

Sunny is the problem in the sense she does nothing but wax poetic about "Madame Vice President."  Today she was saying she has run a flawless campaign.  She doesn't want to hear any constructive criticism about Kamala and is so extremely rigid in her views and beliefs in general she refuses to hear alternate opinions. '

I get the impression those who refuse to view both sides of an issue consider themselves loyal to their party and if anyone dare say anything that doesn't fall in line with their party's platform, they're traitors to the cause.  No, they're just two sides of the same coin.

 

[Back Atcha]

On 10/15/2024 at 7:43 PM, TheGreenKnight said:

I think it's most likely that working with Alyssa and Sara is a chore since the two usually try to tag team Sunny most of the time, they're insufferable.

I feel that I should disagree, but I'm not that confident.  I don't see it, but I truly don't pay close attention. I might be too busy "enjoying" Sunny's jealousy of Alyssa. I'll make a special effort; I like your "tag team" observation.  Haven't noticed it, but now I'll be wary.  Or should that be "aware"? 

Edited October 18 by Back Atcha

[Gemma Violet]

15 minutes ago, Back Atcha said:

I feel that I should disagree, but I'm not that confident.  I don't see it, but I truly don't pay close attention. I might be too busy "enjoying" Sunny's jealousy of Alyssa I'll make a special effort; I like your "tag team" observation.  Haven't noticed it, but now I'll be wary.  Or should that be "aware"? 

I watch every show and pay attention, and I don't see it either.    

[TheGreenKnight]

I also watch the show every day and have for years, and I do. :)  You'd think someone who watches The View could accept different views... It seems like you get accosted by the same people constantly here if you don't like Alyssa--the illusion of fans? Or maybe Alyssa herself made an account here? LOL

[Haleth]

They all annoy me at times, some more often than others and for different reasons, but I think this is one of the best casts they've ever had.  I think they all work well together.

[bluegirl147]

2 hours ago, Haleth said:

I think this is one of the best casts they've ever had.  I think they all work well together.

I agree.  I don't completely trust Alyssa with regards to politics but she is miles better than MM.  They all have their faults but they do seem to play well together.  I think the election is making all of them a little on edge and there does seem to be some tension in the air but after years of cohosts playing musical chairs and the awful years of MM this group is dare I say pleasant to watch.

[Shrek]

3 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

I also watch the show every day and have for years, and I do. :)  You'd think someone who watches The View could accept different views... It seems like you get accosted by the same people constantly here if you don't like Alyssa--the illusion of fans? Or maybe Alyssa herself made an account here? LOL

It's quite a small group who watch & comment so the same people will have a different view to you, accosted you is a bit strong though.

What most seem to disagree with you about is the tag team part that you see, not Alyssa in general. Most probably agree with you about her being untrustworthy & I have never felt accosted when strongly criticizing Alyssa herself, which I do at least once a week.

I caught her on CNN yesterday & she was much more vitriolic about Trump than she is on the View, I still don't trust her though.

[KittyQ]

Shark Tank guy (Mr. Wonderful?): The number one export is the American Dream.

Sunny: It's also Black Culture, that's the number one export.

Me: ???

Can Sunny let the guest make his point without amending (correcting) him? Does she feel that her agenda is so important that she needs to add it to everyone else's statements? I have no doubt that there are some aspects of black culture that are extremely popular "exports", but are people constantly coming to the U.S. for the black culture or for the American Dream? 

[Shrek]

Sunny thinks that everything is about American black culture the world over & nothing else matters. She's wrong as usual.

 

[Axie]

I envision Sunny having a white board on her wall at home and every Sunday making a list of possible Hot Topics and then listing ways she can manipulate every single topic to make the topic about race.  She’s so tiresome.

[LakeGal]

I wish Whoopi would learn how to pronounce Kamala's name.  She always says it like Camel La and not Comma La.  I am always surprised that Sunny doesn't correct her.  But then they all seem scared to correct Whoopi on anything.  

[Soapy Goddess]

I think they're all full of shit in their own way. Especially Sunny, Whoopi and Joy. They sound like broken records. The same rhetoric day in & day out. B-o-r-i-n-g. Thank goodness for fast-forwarding.

[js9548]

Tim Walz on Monday.

[Haleth]

Yay!  Tim next week!

I had wanted to watch the Fox interview but didn’t realize it was on that early. I’m glad now I didn’t because I would have thrown things at the tv. From the clips I saw it seems like Kamala did well, not that it will help sway viewers.  I’d forgotten that Baier was exposed in the election night emails until I heard again about this on msnbc last night.  I guess Sunny watched Lawrence ODonnell’s show too.

 

[atomic]

Bret Baier just proved what an absolute joke of a journalist he is with that interview. I love how VP Harris called him out so authoritatively on his bullshit for playing that edited and deliberately misleading clip. 

So typical that the same crowd who chastises Kamala for being a weak, giggly woman say are now trying to claim that she was being "combative" during that interview. I personally give her credit for not being more combative through Baier's nonstop manterrupting of her.

[Back Atcha]

On 10/16/2024 at 12:17 PM, LakeGal said:

But then they all seem scared to correct Whoopi on anything.  

Seems like everyone is.  She IS talented, but she's not right for this show or anything that requires following instructions, reading, and playing with others. Why does the Disney upper management love her so much?  It's that "protection" that allows her to act like she does.  

Edited October 19 by Back Atcha

[Ellis Bell Lives]

5 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

Seems like everyone does.  She IS talented, but she's not right for this show or anything that requires following instructions, reading, and playing with others. Why does the Disney upper management love her so much?  It's that "protection" that allows her to act like she does.  

She's signed through next season (28).  I remember back when Barbara was still on the show.  Many said they liked it when Barbara was off for the day because the co-hosts didn't have to be on their best behavior.  I'd kill to have those Barbara-centric episodes back.  Look at how Whoopi behaved when Barbara was at the table and look at the way she behaves now.   

I still can't believe this woman is moderating an "ABC News division" telecast.  Maybe she can become licensed to sell health insurance.  Or maybe she shouldn't set her sights so high.  Speaking of high she does have her family business to fall back on.  Nothing says I love you like naming your new cannabis brand Emma & Clyde after your deceased mother and brother.  On that note maybe she can write greeting cards.  

[2JEWELL]

10 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

Seems like everyone does.  She IS talented, but she's not right for this show or anything that requires following instructions, reading, and playing with others. Why does the Disney upper management love her so much?  It's that "protection" that allows her to act like she does.  

Joy is the only one that Whoopi shows any respect for.  And although I’m not always crazy about Sunny, I used to cringe at the way Whoopi would roll her eyes and make fun of her for almost everything she said.

 

[Haleth]

16 hours ago, atomic said:

So typical that the same crowd who chastises Kamala for being a weak, giggly woman say are now trying to claim that she was being "combative" during that interview. I personally give her credit for not being more combative through Baier's nonstop manterrupting of her.

I cannot believe Fox commentators used the "a" word to describe Kamala, a Black woman, in the interview.  OMG, is there any trope (heh, I typoed tripe) they will not broadcast to their audience?

[Shrek]

2 hours ago, Haleth said:

I cannot believe Fox commentators used the "a" word to describe Kamala, a Black woman, in the interview.  OMG, is there any trope (heh, I typoed tripe) they will not broadcast to their audience?

I think you know the answer but short of them saying the actual "n" word no there isn't, and I'm not even sure about that.

[Ellis Bell Lives]

5 hours ago, 2JEWELL said:

Joy is the only one that Whoopi shows any respect for.  And although I’m not always crazy about Sunny, I used to cringe at the way Whoopi would roll her eyes and make fun of her for almost everything she said.

 

I think Whoopi was threatened by Sunny's advanced education/degrees and her background as a federal prosecutor.  Early on when Sunny would be offering her legal expertise on a certain topic, Whoopi would interrupt her and tell her she was wrong.  It was ridiculous and it happened every time Sunny opened her mouth. 

Sunny politely weathered the storm but has since become insufferable so maybe Whoopi sensed the monster within, lol.

[Denize]

On 10/15/2024 at 4:08 PM, sugarbaker design said:

Does this mean Whoop doesn't get her insurance premium refund?!  😉

I expect she put off the surgery thinking her evil insurance premiums would go up.

[TheGreenKnight]

On 10/16/2024 at 9:28 AM, Shrek said:

 

What most seem to disagree with you about is the tag team part that you see, not Alyssa in general. 

I don't think two people is "most," but it wouldn't change my opinion to be in the minority. It's true that Sara hasn't done the tag team shtick with Alyssa to Sunny as much the past few months ever since the primaries ended, but before that they were doing it practically every day. Part of it may be the show's old artempt to "make sparks"; you would have Candace and Paula or Jed in those seats, then Abby and McCain, now Sara and Alyssa. In the past, the target of the ones in those chairs was Joy, but I think they give Sunny the role more these days. Ana, Joy, and especially Whoopi get more respect, I'm assuming because they're much higher up the totem pole than Sunny.

A real minority opinion might be that I still unabashedly like Sunny. I doubt she's jealous of anyone. As far as news shows go, I saw her on MSNBC just this past week and I believe she's hosting some ABC thing about the Menendez brothers. No, I just don't think she finds Alyssa to be trustworthy (whether we're talking about her statements at the table or as a co-worker) any more than I do as a viewer watching at home and she's right as she most often is. I admit I find a lot of the commentary about Sunny these days to be slightly disturbing, particularly the talk about her hair (whch I think looks nice however she chooses to wear it most of the time, although the straightened look was nice to see again since it had been a while). If I had any criticism of Sunny, it's that she's a little too reactive to what's said about the show online. She would be more herself if she just ignored it, since there's always going to be this weird bull's-eye on her for all the obvious reasons. That's why Joy is my favorite, because she really doesn't care who likes or agrees with her, she never changes herself to suit anyone. Still a rare quality on television, and that's why she's always been so popular.

[Back Atcha]

18 hours ago, 2JEWELL said:

 And although I’m not always crazy about Sunny, I used to cringe at the way Whoopi would roll her eyes and make fun of her for almost everything she said.

I agree, and although I don't enjoy Sunny at all, I felt personally embarrassed for her...trying everything/every day to get Whoopi to like her.  Sucking up, laughing too heartily, agreeing at times she probably didn't.  So desperate; so sad.  I know Whoopi expects and loves adulation, but I think even THIS irritated her.  Maybe because it was Sunny.  I think Sunny has calmed down, but it still happens occasionally.

3 hours ago, TheGreenKnight said:

That's why Joy is my favorite, because she really doesn't care who likes or agrees with her, she never changes herself to suit anyone. Still a rare quality on television, and that's why she's always been so popular.

Need to explain my APPLAUSE emoji.  Not a Sunny fan, so I can't agree with the entire post, but this quote about Joy makes it all enjoyable.  Applause!!

As for Sunny's hair, my only comment...and I still wonder, "What's with the bob-like style in the formal photos in the introduction.  I've never seen her wear that style before or after the new opening."  It's a great look; why a one-time thing?

Edited October 19 by Back Atcha

[mispickel]

13 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

As for Sunny's hair, my only comment...and I still wonder, "What's with the bob-like style in the formal photos in the introduction.  I've never seen her wear that style before or after the new opening."  It's a great look; why a one-time thing?

Sunny wore that wig on The View on June 26, 2024. She said she saw Nicole Ari Parker wear a wig like that and she got her own. Sean Evans was the guest that day; you can look for the video of that segment on YouTube to see Sunny with that wig eating hot wings! Alyssa says: "I'm not touching that [hot wing], I have a photo shoot." That is when the opening was filmed.

https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/148339-the-view-week-of-6242024/#comment-8401064

Edited October 19 by mispickel

[Back Atcha]

46 minutes ago, mispickel said:

 

A "merge" that didn't work.

 

On 10/17/2024 at 10:49 PM, Ellis Bell Lives said:

I still can't believe this woman is moderating an "ABC News division" telecast.  Maybe she can become licensed to sell health insurance.  Or maybe she shouldn't set her sights so high.  Speaking of high she does have her family business to fall back on.  Nothing says I love you like naming your new cannabis brand Emma & Clyde after your deceased mother and brother.  On that note maybe she can write greeting cards.

THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU, Ellis Bell Lives!  Surely we're members of the same club.  Love your concise/effective writing style. Your introductory sentence is perfection.

Edited October 19 by Back Atcha

[Back Atcha]

On 10/17/2024 at 11:33 AM, atomic said:

I personally give her credit for not being more combative through Baier's nonstop manterrupting of her.

Thank you!  She's certainly no "ignorant" shrinking violet. I thought she did a great job under the worst circumstances. That "specially selected" video clip was the Fox News downfall this time. Kamala can't seem to win...well, win anyone who's a Never Kamala.  She has proven herself to be quick-witted, smart, intelligent, educated.  She knows her business!  I worry every time I think of the election.  She seems to be a great choice, but there are those who will NEVER vote for:

• A woman
• A Democrat
• A "person of color

That might be too many lost votes.  Guess there aren't too many more days to worry.  I voted!  

[Back Atcha]

On 10/14/2024 at 11:33 AM, Shrek said:

The legal system in the USA is so fucked up that he still hasn't had to answer for 1/6 years later, and now he thinks he has immunity from anything he does, ever, because he knows that his sycophants on the SC will back him up if it ever gets that far.

A sad thing about your comment, Shrek, is that idiots all over the U.S. (and their attorneys) have been sucking this in. They've taken notes and will be working the system just as their king has. The bad word is "PRECEDENT."  Our judicial system will continue to devolve...simply because of him and his mob.  One broken and uneducated human has had a terrible effect on our country.  

[TheGreenKnight]

On 10/18/2024 at 1:49 AM, Ellis Bell Lives said:

 

I still can't believe this woman is moderating an "ABC News division" telecast.  Maybe she can become licensed to sell health insurance.  Or maybe she shouldn't set her sights so high.  Speaking of high she does have her family business to fall back on.  Nothing says I love you like naming your new cannabis brand Emma & Clyde after your deceased mother and brother. On that note maybe she can write greeting cards.  

I'm not that big of a Whoopi fan, but talk about beyond the pale. I can only suppose why there are a couple of users here these days who watch a show that they hate everything about. I mean, in that situation, the joke is sort of on you? Nobody stops you from turning the channel. But I suppose sometimes the antagonism and hostility (against both the co-hosts themselves and fans of the show) is the only point.

[Mollywolly555]

I thought hate watching or snarking on tv people was the original point of primetimer forums.

I don't watch much TV. My DVR shows  often get deleted because I don't have time. 

It is really fun reading others' clever, hilarious, and/or mean comments and sharing similar perspectives.

Or seeing views abt things that other primetimers caught from ridiculous or hypocritical TV hosts or characters.

For example, I do hate watch Whitney Thore.

On The View, I don't get the Whoopi love.  I like Joy, but she's 80 and Idk if she can up her game at this point, i.e., new jokes, less talk about idiotic things Trump did that was already covered ad nauseum by other media, and do more positive, substantive  talk about Kamala. Alyssa is on the Repub revolving chair so don't care,  don't trust her. I did really HATE MeeMeMegan McC. I have discussed Sunny previously...smart but rigid and getting brittle. Sara nice.  Ana ok.

So, IDK if I wd watch,  frankly,  if I didn't have this forum to read or share. It's fun. 

[TheGreenKnight]

Oh, absolutely the forum has always been a place for mocking or making fun of TVshows, but that's a very different thing from visceral hatred...