S15.E22: Mosh Protein Bars; Sip Herbals; Arber Plant Care; Flaus Electric Flosser

[EtheltoTillie]

Guest Shark Candace Nelson of Sprinkles

[EtheltoTillie]

So Maria Shriver and Patrick Schwarzenegger don't need Shark Money for their Mosh bars to prevent Alzheimer's.  They have Kennedy money and Terminator money.  They just want exposure.  Is their product really going to work?  Why did they call it Mosh?

Lori did not know who Sargent Shriver was!  That was embarrassing. 

But she made the deal. 

Edited May 4 by EtheltoTillie

[CrazyInAlabama]

5/3/24.  Season Finale.

Sharks-Guest Shark Candace Nelson (Sprinkles), Mark, Kevin, Lori, Daymond

(I was wrong, thanks to another poster, I looked again and Mark Cuban will leave at the end of the 16th season).

Mosh Protein Bars- Maria Shriver and son Patrick Schwarzenegger founded this company.   Seeking $500,000 for 2%.    They give part to women’s focues Alzheimer’s research, Shriver claims 50% of Alzheimer’s cases can be prevented, and 2/3 of cases are women.  Bar is supposed to be good for your brain, and nutrition.    Valuation is $25 million.  In 2 years they’ve sold $10 million online, not profitable yet.   Think they’ll sell $7 million for 2023.  $100,000 a month on marketing.   Sales are great, profits aren’t there yet.   They have a subscription plan.  Candace questions the return on investment.   Kevin doesn’t like the valuation, or shelf space, and is out. Mark is out, crowded market area, and he’s out.  Daymond is out.   Candace is worried about the market area, and is out.  

(I don't like celebrities who could have had the same deal by calling a Shark directly.   To me it takes away from the idea of Shark Tank, by giving entrepreneurs a shot at getting a deal). 

Lori is the only one left, but in worries about the crowded market space and valuation.  Lori makes an  offer $500,000 for 6%.  

Lori makes the deal for $500,000, for 5% with 3.5% equity, and 1.5% advisory. (The percentages may be off).

Sip Herbals- a coffee alternative-a coffee substitute without the jitters. Seeking $100,000 for 10%. Caffeine free, natural, chickory root, dandelion root, carob, and it is a tea that tastes like coffee.   She calls it Faux Joe.   $250,000 sales for 2023, margins are great.   Moving into retail.    Lori and Daymond are out.  Mark is out.  Candace is out.  Kevin is out.

No deal. 

Arber Plant Care- organic plant-care products. Seeking $500,000 for 4%.   First plant wellness system, for veggies, flowers, plants.   Bottles are $20 to $21 each, and last for a year.   She sells online, in Walmart and Target.   Sales were $2.7 million 2022, $4 million for 2023, not yet profitable.  Margins 50%.  The Walmart margins are awful.     She has to get to $9 million to show a profit.  Mark is out. Candace is out. Daymond is out, it’s too early.  Lori dislikes the valuation. Kevin $1 a unit until he gets $1.5 million back.  $500,000 for 5%.

No deal.

 Flaus Electric Flosser-device that lets individuals floss their teeth in an easier manner.  Seeking $250,000 for 5%. Peppermint flavored, hoping to have other flavors.  75% gross margin, on the kit with 45 floss heads, device, recharger.  Either one time purchase, or quarterly subscriptions.   Profitable, on gross, real profit this year.   Kevin points out that there are two huge dental device sellers, but seller has patents so could be attractive for a deal with the big companies.   Coming out with Flaus kids.  $3 million in debt.  Lori is out, she loves her dental floss pick.  Mark is out.  Kevin offers $250,000 5%, plus a royalty until he makes $750,000 back.   Candace offers $250,000 and 8% equity.   Kevin changes to 3% for $250,000 and royalty.  Daymond offers $250,000 for 10%, and will try for a licensing deal.  SEller offers Candace and Daymond partner, which Daymond turns down.

Deal with Candace. 

 

Iconic Moment:  Global Sharks & Dragons from around the world visit the U.N.  There are 50 versions of Shark Tank, Lions, or Dragons.

Edited May 5 by CrazyInAlabama

[KeithJ]

Maria Shriver and Patrick Schwarzenegger are on hocking their protein bars?  Wtf do they need a shark for?l and why are they on this show?  If Maria called any of the sharks, they would most likely answer the phone (or Patrick could have had his father call). I think Lori also gave them a better offer than if someone else asked for.  I was really thinking she was going to ask for 10%.

[CrazyInAlabama]

5/3/24.  Season Finale.

I was surprised to see it's the season finale.   You would think that it would have been on the previews, or ads to get viewers to tune in for the last one of the season.    

Edited May 5 by CrazyInAlabama

[CrazyInAlabama]

Sorry, I didn't see your post before I clicked to post mine.   

[DEL901]

On the trip to the UN, they talked about all the versions of Shark Tank around the world, implying that Shark Tank came first.   But I believe it was the Japanese Dragon’s Den that came first. Even the Canadian version offDragon’s Den was earlier…Kevin and Robert got their TV start on that version.  

[DEL901]

50 versions, but the US version did not come first as the segment implied.  Japan came first, I believe.  

[Quickbeam]

I was a pre-market tester of Mosh bars about a year and a half ago. It was the blueberry almond. The flavor was ok but the texture was terrible, like extruded paste. Always curious to see stuff I’ve tested and reviewed on the Tank.

I really don’t like seeing famous people pitch to ST. It feels grasping and preening while taking an opportunity away from someone who may not have famous family. 

[EtheltoTillie]

5 minutes ago, Quickbeam said:

I really don’t like seeing famous people pitch to ST. It feels grasping and preening while taking an opportunity away from someone who may not have famous family. 

That's why I started posting as it was airing.  I couldn't believe my eyes.  Famous and super-rich people! 

33 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Sorry, I didn't see your post before I clicked to post mine.   

Hope I haven't confused everyone. 

[CrazyInAlabama]

I see Mark wasn't his usual 'what proof do you have' for the protein bar claims.    Not that I expected that since it was obviously just to get publicity for the product.   

Edited May 4 by CrazyInAlabama

[jcbrown]

Fuck off, Maria Shriver. You have zero evidence your lame fake food thing has any impact on preventing dementia and you have tons of money and should just fund your own bullshit. And losing 25% of the show to this is infuriating.

I lost two parents to Alzheimer’s and I am DONE with her.

Edited May 4 by jcbrown

[hula-la]

I spent this episode yelling at the show. I yelled at the wealthy family who had the audacity to come on this show. I yelled at the UN, who probably has better things to do than host the dragons/sharks. I yelled at coffee lady (vanillin, the synthetic version of vanilla, came from wood pulp, not castor sacs. I yelled at the plant lady, because organic uses chemicals.

Ok, I didn’t yell that the flaus lady, but that might have  been because I was eating apple strudel. 

[EtheltoTillie]

Hey, I see we can now edit titles????

[CrazyInAlabama]

You go to your original post when you started the topic, and if the edit button is still listed, you can edit the title of it, or anything else.  Once it only says 'share' you can't edit any longer.     Found out the hard way.    You can only edit a post, either one starting a topic, or an individual post for a certain number of days.   

Edited May 5 by CrazyInAlabama

[Bookish Jen]

I don't know what pissed me off more, seeing Maria Shriver and her nepo baby son hawk their stupid product or the UN act like the Sharks and Dragons were actually doing something to help humanity. Why do I keep watching this clusterfuck of a show?

[EtheltoTillie]

19 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

You go to your original post when you started the topic, and if the edit button is still listed, you can edit the title of it, or anything else.  Once it only says 'share' you can't edit any longer.     Found out the hard way.  

I discovered this quite by accident this morning.  I was hovering over the title and I saw that it said "click to edit."  It was pure chance that I saw it.  It still says it now after I already edited once.

[tired and hungry]

Ok did not expect Patrick and his mom to be on the show. They have a business thats great for them but as others have pointed out, the show is for regular people to come and pitch their business. Maria was a bit OTT (I understand being passionate but it was a bit much). Lori seemed to give them a pity deal since they are famous and at only 6%?? I don't think I've ever seen her ask for anything less than 20% . It was a deal for the sake of TV for sure

No opinions on the Tea lady and her product. Tea that tastes like coffee seems like a good idea maybe?.

Arber: Seriously Candace? She mentioned the box was like opening a gift? It's a box of "organic" chemicals and pesticide, not one of your boxes of cupcakes. *eyerolls*. I don't understand this trend of making such "pretty" or pastel colored bottles for stuff like chemicals and detergents n stuff. I Is it really necessary or are they catering to the people who want every product in their house to match the "aesthetic". The kind of people who look at Tide and other bottles and think these bottles are ugly sitting out next to their appliances & don't match with the "vibe" of their home. I don't know how you manage to create "organic" chemicals. Aren't most chemicals organic by nature? And just because you slap the word organic on something doesn't mean its good for you or in this case for your plants.

[tired and hungry]

Also forgot to add: Did not realise this was Mark's final episode or if this was even the finale episode of the season for that matter. There was no mention of either.

Guess its time since one of them stopped appearing. We need some younger sharks or fresher faces... Its kinda boring to see the same sharks now. I hope Lori leaves next. She's just alwaaaayys there all the time in 99% of the episodes. I'm tired of her asking "so what's your background" or "how did you come up with this?" and then cue the entreprenuer with their sob story...

[CrazyInAlabama]

5 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I discovered this quite by accident this morning.  I was hovering over the title and I saw that it said "click to edit."  It was pure chance that I saw it.  It still says it now after I already edited once.

 

The Flaus thing didn't appeal to me at all, and I wonder if you can floss your gums too harshly with this.    The protein bars sellers were only on the show for publicity, and to create demand, and could have called any of the Sharks directly for a deal or advice.    The Sip stuff didn't interest me at all.   Arber isn't something I'd use, unless I want to hurt more innocent plants.    

Thanks to whoever merged the threads.    

Edited May 4 by CrazyInAlabama

[CrazyInAlabama]

I agree with you, they were just on for the publicity, and hoping sales would increase.    Why is shilling protein bars better than donating the same amount the sellers invested in Alzheimer's research?  

What I'm tired of with Candace is that they only talk about the cupcake company, she hasn't owned it since 2014,  and invests in at least one other business now.  I recognize her from her TV work as a judge on Food Network, and other shows.   

 

Edited May 5 by CrazyInAlabama

[Kiss my mutt]

Lame but things are even lamer with Candace. That woman just bugs. 

Edited May 4 by Kiss my mutt

[KaveDweller]

8 hours ago, tired and hungry said:

Also forgot to add: Did not realise this was Mark's final episode or if this was even the finale episode of the season for that matter. There was no mention of either.

I don't think this was Mark's last episode, he is supposedly leaving after season 16 and this was the S15 finale.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mark-cuban-leaving-shark-tank-abc-rcna126969

[CrazyInAlabama]

3 minutes ago, KaveDweller said:

I don't think this was Mark's last episode, he is supposedly leaving after season 16 and this was the S15 finale.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mark-cuban-leaving-shark-tank-abc-rcna126969

Thanks for the correction.  I appreciate it.   I wonder if they filmed that season already, or will soon, they seem to film far in advance.  

[LAgator77]

This was not Mark Cuban’s last episode. He’s leaving at the end of NEXT season. 

[eel2178]

6 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Lame but things are even lamer with Candace. That woman just bugs. 

Agreed. There is just something about her personality that makes me never want to be in the same room as her.

[eel2178]

22 hours ago, jcbrown said:

Fuck off, Maria Shriver. You have zero evidence your lame fake food thing has any impact on preventing dementia and you have tons of money and should just fund your own bullshit. And losing 25% of the show to this is infuriating.

I lost two parents to Alzheimer’s and I am DONE with her.

Her claim that we didn't know that dementia (not all types are caused by Alzheimer's) had anything to do with lifestyle until 20 years ago is also total bullshit. We've been looking at causes since the middle of the 20th century.

Just like all the other people claiming to prevent/cure dementia, they're hawking an unproven product based on scare tactics. I hope when people spend a couple hundred dollars on her granola bars and get diagnosed with cognitive decline anyway, they sue her and her family for the billions they could already be contributing to research if they were really serious about finding treatment.

As Phil Donahue said "we don't need to use sick children to sell hamburgers" (make the necessary word substitutions yourself).

 

Edited May 5 by eel2178

[MaryAnneSpier]

Did Lori use her "golden ticket" thing for one super-duper special entrepreneur this season? I can't recall her doing that- I hope that idea is done. 

[seacliffsal]

I really didn't like the Patrick and Maria segment.  Talk about entitlement-if it's such a great product self-fund it, but they don't want to lose all of their own money, let's lose money from other people too!  She over-talked a couple of the Sharks and we heard her backstory twice (I thought Lori wasn't listening the first time Maria explained why she started this business, but the producers probably just wanted it told again).  So, Mark only 'attacks' snake oil presenters when they don't have money, influence, or a connection to both the Kennedys and Hollywood?  Alrighty then.  

Oh, and there was a Shark Tank self-promotion segment (UN) and other products, none of which interested me.  Where are the presenters that have a realistic valuation?  Why is every product worth millions of dollars?  Make it all make sense.

[CrazyInAlabama]

11 hours ago, eel2178 said:

Agreed. There is just something about her personality that makes me never want to be in the same room as her.

Thanks!  I corrected that.   He's not investing much anymore, but he gives the presenters great advice, so I'll be sad to see him go. 

[Shrek]

19 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Thanks!  I corrected that.   He's not investing much anymore, but he gives the presenters great advice, so I'll be sad to see him go. 

Me too but I think he sees the writing on the wall with all of the ridiculous valuations every week & the same old same old. Where is the next scrub daddy that normal people can afford to use rather than crazy automatic burger makers & rich people schilling shit snake oil products.  

[DEL901]

2 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

I really didn't like the Patrick and Maria segment.  Talk about entitlement-if it's such a great product self-fund it, but they don't want to lose all of their own money, let's lose money from other people too!  She over-talked a couple of the Sharks and we heard her backstory twice (I thought Lori wasn't listening the first time Maria explained why she started this business, but the producers probably just wanted it told again).  So, Mark only 'attacks' snake oil presenters when they don't have money, influence, or a connection to both the Kennedys and Hollywood?  Alrighty then.  

Oh, and there was a Shark Tank self-promotion segment (UN) and other products, none of which interested me.  Where are the presenters that have a realistic valuation?  Why is every product worth millions of dollars?  Make it all make sense.

We only see a small portion of the presentations/discussion.   We see what the producers want us to see    And if anyone challenged Maria or the kid, they probably wouldn’t show it     And I agree with other posters   Why were they allowed on the show.    The only celeb pitcher I didn’t mind was Jimmy Kimmel and his horse pants.  

[aemom]

On 5/5/2024 at 10:14 AM, seacliffsal said:

I really didn't like the Patrick and Maria segment.  Talk about entitlement-if it's such a great product self-fund it, but they don't want to lose all of their own money, let's lose money from other people too!

I have nothing against Maria Shriver, but this really bothered me.  Her family has SO MUCH MONEY that can fund this.  Shark Tank is for everyday people like me who have zero connections and access to that kind of money.

It's admirable that she is trying to find a cure for dementia - which has hugely affected my life as well - but Shark Tank was not the place for them.

[LuvMyShows]

On 5/4/2024 at 11:29 PM, eel2178 said:

Agreed. There is just something about her personality that makes me never want to be in the same room as her.

I didn't really have a problem with her personality, but I could not have been in the same room with her eye-overpowering fake eyelashes!