Current Plots Discussion II: Discussing Today's Episode and Current Storylines

[DaphneCat]

2 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Philip's pleas to Sarah hit the right notes. He and Xander share so much of the same trauma inflicted by Victor. But if she keeps the secret what happens to her marriage when Xander finds out? Sarah needs Philip to keep Xander from breaking the law at work and he will do her bidding now.

I get what you're saying but I REALLY want this whole thing over and done with.  Why didn't Sarah just tell Philip that HE was going to be the one to "discover" the letter was a forgery.  That way, he could look noble and self-sacrificing (and possibly look better in Stephanie's eyes) by "coming forward with the truth."

[DisneyBoy]

Today's scene between Sarah, Kate and Phillip was classic soap. Great tension. Valid arguments all around. Subtle music. Connected performances.

Why LK isn't on contract now is beyond me.

Honestly, I hope Sarah, Kate, Steph, Viv and Philip keep the secret buried for the next two years and this can be a great longterm plot storyline, kinda like how Holly never knowing about Eric killing Daniel inadvertently became.

Sadly I feel like Ron will wrap this up by March.

[brisbydog]

9 minutes ago, DaphneCat said:

I get what you're saying but I REALLY want this whole thing over and done with.  Why didn't Sarah just tell Philip that HE was going to be the one to "discover" the letter was a forgery.  That way, he could look noble and self-sacrificing (and possibly look better in Stephanie's eyes) by "coming forward with the truth."

Because she wants him to stop Xander from doing reckless things like angering Kristen. She's already been her victim 

1 minute ago, DisneyBoy said:

Today's scene between Sarah, Kate and Phillip was classic soap. Great tension. Valid arguments all around. Subtle music. Connected performances.

Why LK isn't on contract now is beyond me.

Honestly, I hope Sarah, Kate, Steph, Viv and Philip keep the secret buried for the next two years and this can be a great longterm plot storyline, kinda like how Holly never knowing about Eric killing Daniel inadvertently became.

Sadly I feel like Ron will wrap this up by March.

It's a really good story. And rumour is the fall out goes well into fall.

[Artsda]

Marlena is tired of cooking for one?  Brady, Tate and Belle are eating what? 

Maggie the alcoholic is just ok with what Phillip did to Brady? She sweeps if under mental illness? 

Go Xander for calling Maggie out on how she worked with Alex. 

Sarah is moron for listening to the 2 fraudsters. 

Edited January 14 by Artsda

[Rodney]

1 hour ago, Artsda said:

Maggie the alcoholic is just ok with what Phillip did to Brady? She sweeps if under mental illness?

She was okay with what her precious son-in-law did to Brady, too, also involving alcohol.  Is it that surprising?

Seriously.  Maggie's blind spot toward the Kiriakis men really drops her in my estimation.  Even her own daughter sees them more clearly for what they are, and even then, just barely so.

[DisneyBoy]

4 hours ago, Artsda said:

Marlena is tired of cooking for one?  Brady, Tate and Belle are eating what? 

I was astonished to even hear that Marlena cooked...I thought the show made a joke of the fact that she never did (a trope used to suggest she's a modern career woman).

Oh, how I wish the show had the money to make the townhouse actually appear capable of housing multiple people. That combo living room/foyer is really not impressive.

If they made it clear Jarlena had downsized to a condo for two in their golden years, and that no one could really stay with them except in the one spare guest bedroom, then fine. But that set representing a house that multiple adults could live in comfortably? No.

10 hours ago, brisbydog said:

It's a really good story. And rumour is the fall out goes well into fall.

Well that's promising! Hopefully the new regime makes it into something special.

I know Cat's sticking around - ALM was a "get" for the show - but I really wish they'd wrap it all up with that family. Why can't we just focus on Chad as a father? I miss his scenes with Thomas in particular - the kid was a good actor.

And while we're at it, how about a scene of Sarah nursing Victoria? You know - stuff that shows she's the mother of a young infant? Soaps used to be all about that.

[DisneyBoy]

Hearing Chad say - with a smile! - how Marlena forgave a serial killer who murdered her grandson was deeply weird.

True of course, but deeply weird.

You'd think he'd mistrust her for that.

[CanaryFan98]

17 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I was astonished to even hear that Marlena cooked...I thought the show made a joke of the fact that she never did (a trope used to suggest she's a modern career woman).

Oh, how I wish the show had the money to make the townhouse actually appear capable of housing multiple people. That combo living room/foyer is really not impressive.

If they made it clear Jarlena had downsized to a condo for two in their golden years, and that no one could really stay with them except in the one spare guest bedroom, then fine. But that set representing a house that multiple adults could live in comfortably? No.

Well that's promising! Hopefully the new regime makes it into something special.

I know Cat's sticking around - ALM was a "get" for the show - but I really wish they'd wrap it all up with that family. Why can't we just focus on Chad as a father? I miss his scenes with Thomas in particular - the kid was a good actor.

And while we're at it, how about a scene of Sarah nursing Victoria? You know - stuff that shows she's the mother of a young infant? Soaps used to be all about that.

I do like some realistic scenes I think the last time I saw a realistic scene on this show involving a baby was when Abby was folding Charlotte's laundry.

However as far as Marlena in the past she actually knew how to cook but somewhere along the way they rewrote it as if she didn't know how.

 

[DisneyBoy]

1 hour ago, CanaryFan98 said:

However as far as Marlena in the past she actually knew how to cook but somewhere along the way they rewrote it as if she didn't know how.

Thanks I was wondering if I'd imagined it.

Leo and Paulina's outfits today made my eyes bleed. It was nuts.

[SouthernChick]

I find Kerry attractive. Am I the only one?

[Badger]

So do I.

[brisbydog]

Me three. Ron wants me to hate him but I agree with everything he says about Leo trashing his show. And so what if he's posting spoilers and mocking Leo online. Is that a crime?

Javi is gross too. Leo can have him. I want Paul and Andrew back. They are the gays I admire and respect 

[Rodney]

2 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Javi is gross too. Leo can have him.

And what's wrong with Javi, exactly?  I haven't seen one thing objectionable about him yet.

[DisneyBoy]

I don't see how either guy could be drawn to Leo, though its clear Javi is supposed to be playful and a little tricky, which I guess makes him a better fit with a person like Leo...

...in theory, anyway.

I really want Kerry and Javi to stay together for months and for Leo to squirm about it, silently. They seem believable together.

5 hours ago, brisbydog said:

I want Paul and Andrew back. They are the gays I admire and respect

Yeah, when are we going to get to see more of Paul and Andrew again?

[Soapy Goddess]

31 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

I don't see how either guy could be drawn to Leo, though its clear Javi is supposed to be playful and a little tricky, which I guess makes him a better fit with a person like Leo...

Agree that Javi is more like Leo for the reasons you stated. Not a Kerry fan. He seems a bit slimy and underhanded to me. And this was before spoilers.

Plus it's no secret that I'm a Leo fan...so I'd like to see him happy for a change.

[brisbydog]

6 hours ago, Rodney said:

And what's wrong with Javi, exactly?  I haven't seen one thing objectionable about him yet.

Pushy. Terrible employee. Horrible houseguest. Like Leo he needs to be toned down 

[brisbydog]

Ugh this story is tedious and it just started. Xander would not kill Philip. He would gleefully fire him and then delight in making Belle prosecute him. And the excuse that Philip can keep him in line is weak. Philip does stupid stuff all the time. Xander ran Titan for years without incident. This just screams plot driven. Sarah would never deny Xander the knowledge that Victor did choose him.

The only good part will be the two brothers bonding before the inevitable fallout out. 

I am so tired of daily Leo. And I care not a bit for Arnold. Big waste of EJ 

[boes]

8 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Leo to squirm about it, silently.

Silently is the operative word.  I wish he'd do everything silently.  I'd especially tune in to watch him leave Salem forever.  Silently.

45 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

And I care not a bit for Arnold.

If Show just had to have an Arnold, why not 

Arnold Ziffel?

Now that's a storyline I could get behind!

[Rodney]

52 minutes ago, brisbydog said:

Ugh this story is tedious and it just started. Xander would not kill Philip. He would gleefully fire him and then delight in making Belle prosecute him.

Did you conveniently forget the gun thing?  Yes, he damn well would kill him.

Edited January 15 by Rodney

[worleybird]

Kerry was HOT when he was on back in the summer and Leo couldn't go thru with the sex. But with the really long hair not so much. He looked OK yesterday with the mini ponytail. But the really long hair not so much.

[brisbydog]

2 hours ago, Rodney said:

Did you conveniently forget the gun thing?  Yes, he damn well would kill him.

To save Sarah from paralysis yes. Because he's a fraud and Xander wins, nope. He'd fire him and humiliate Belle as she'd have to prosecute. 

[CanaryFan98]

15 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

I don't see how either guy could be drawn to Leo, though its clear Javi is supposed to be playful and a little tricky, which I guess makes him a better fit with a person like Leo...

...in theory, anyway.

I really want Kerry and Javi to stay together for months and for Leo to squirm about it, silently. They seem believable together.

Yeah, when are we going to get to see more of Paul and Andrew again?

Probably when John has his inevitable funeral.

[SouthernChick]

Christopher Sean doesn’t was to be on Days full time. So no Paul and Andrew returning.

[chediavolo]

OMG, does anyone know where you can find the fake fur leopard print coat that Gabby was wearing today?❤️ although I probably can’t afford it.😔

Edited Thursday at 03:41 PM by chediavolo

[DisneyBoy]

A snake plushie, Rachel? Really? You're going to carry around a metaphor?

(I'm kind of surprised she didn't snag a gun on her way out, or break into the safe for cash). 

[Rodney]

Brady is beating himself up a bit too much over what happened with Chloe.  Rachel won that time because Chloe gave up.  Brady tried to fight for them, but Chloe waved the white flag.  I'm actually glad that he didn't let Ava wave the white flag this time, because he's right.  It gives Rachel the wrong message that acting out will give her what she wants.  Staying together shows that it won't always work.  (Or, really, shouldn't work ever.)

[CanaryFan98]

7 hours ago, chediavolo said:

OMG, does anyone know where you can find the fake fur leopard print coat that Gabby was wearing today?❤️ although I probably can’t afford it.😔

Give it a couple of days it will probably be featured here

 

Gabi Hernandez Outfits & Fashion on Days of our Lives | Cherie Jimenez

[Guncle Adam]

On 1/15/2025 at 8:30 PM, SouthernChick said:

Christopher Sean doesn’t was to be on Days full time. So no Paul and Andrew returning.

Paul aside, I think Andrew is the only grandchild of Shawn & Caroline who hasn't been on contract as an adult. Kim & Shane's son is a hot gay spy and nobody wants to write for him? Le sigh. 

[brisbydog]

Colton would do full time. As much as I like Andrew with Paul I'd take Andrew back alone. As long as he's not paired with Leo.

I think they should bring on the Kiriakis twins and make one straight and one gay. Andrew could have one and the other could make a move on Chanel 

[JBC344]

As much as Leo can be annoying,  I'm actually loving the team up of he and Marlena.  She was so much more lighter and fun in those scenes.  I'll gladly take more of that dynamic. 

[norcalgal]

8 hours ago, Guncle Adam said:

Paul aside, I think Andrew is the only grandchild of Shawn & Caroline who hasn't been on contract as an adult. 

Can someone remind me who is Paul?  Thanks.

4 hours ago, JBC344 said:

As much as Leo can be annoying,  I'm actually loving the team up of he and Marlena.  She was so much more lighter and fun in those scenes.  I'll gladly take more of that dynamic. 

In that scene, reference was made to the eclipse in Rochester “last year”.  That’s in line with what happened IRL 2024….but didn’t Days do a one year time jump?  So Days should be in 2026. So in-show, the eclipse should have happened two years ago, not “last year”!  
 

Also, not just on Days, but ANY show/movie where an ultrasound is taken in the first trimester, is it possible to get baby pix from a non invasive ultrasound?  For my two pregnancies, first trimester ultrasound always involved the vaginal version. 

[brisbydog]

59 minutes ago, norcalgal said:

Can someone remind me who is Paul?  Thanks.

In that scene, reference was made to the eclipse in Rochester “last year”.  That’s in line with what happened IRL 2024….but didn’t Days do a one year time jump?  So Days should be in 2026. So in-show, the eclipse should have happened two years ago, not “last year”!  
 

Also, not just on Days, but ANY show/movie where an ultrasound is taken in the first trimester, is it possible to get baby pix from a non invasive ultrasound?  For my two pregnancies, first trimester ultrasound always involved the vaginal version. 

Paul is John's son

They did away with the time jump some time ago. All graves etc have the current year 

[norcalgal]

1 hour ago, brisbydog said:

Paul is John's son

Thanks!  

They did away with the time jump some time ago. All graves etc have the current year 

So did the show just pretend the time jump never happened?  Or was it a character’s dream that the time jump happened?  

[DaphneCat]

8 minutes ago, norcalgal said:

So did the show just pretend the time jump never happened?  Or was it a character’s dream that the time jump happened?  

No.  It was more like in a movie when the caption reads "One year later"  They NEVER said it was a year in the future.  They just said a year had elapsed.  Since they tend to be fuzzy about which date it is IRL I guess you could think the past was actually a year earlier.  I REALLY think people gave it more thought than it deserved.

[norcalgal]

8 minutes ago, DaphneCat said:

No.  It was more like in a movie when the caption reads "One year later"  They NEVER said it was a year in the future.  They just said a year had elapsed.  Since they tend to be fuzzy about which date it is IRL I guess you could think the past was actually a year earlier.  I REALLY think people gave it more thought than it deserved.

Aaaah, the old trick of saying to someone on December 31 “see you next year”, waiting until midnight, then seeing that person.  So technically, it is the next year. Lolololol

[brisbydog]

Anybody else completely over the Leo show?

[Giuseppe]

4 hours ago, norcalgal said:

In that scene, reference was made to the eclipse in Rochester “last year”.  That’s in line with what happened IRL 2024….but didn’t Days do a one year time jump?  So Days should be in 2026. So in-show, the eclipse should have happened two years ago, not “last year”!

Yeah, several characters have mentioned "2025" when referencing the new year, so safe to say we are back to current time, lol.

So assuming Kerry is Lady W (and we've basically been shown that he is), he must not be very bright to fall for Leo's trap. Because it's not at ALL suspicious that a new column comes out spoiling a story that he was just told about five minutes earlier in the presence of someone else who was recently accused of being the new Lady W. I know the column explained it as hacking into his email, but still...c'mon dude.

Edited Saturday at 01:19 AM by Giuseppe

[SouthernChick]

Kristen comes into Brady’s home, sees Ava, and immediately starts yelling at her that it’s all her fault. Yet another reason why Kristen sucks.

[DisneyBoy]

9 hours ago, norcalgal said:

In that scene, reference was made to the eclipse in Rochester “last year”.  That’s in line with what happened IRL 2024….but didn’t Days do a one year time jump?  So Days should be in 2026. So in-show, the eclipse should have happened two years ago, not “last year”!  

Because it was always just a cheap stunt - "DAYS is going where no other soap has gone before!1!!" they touted - they quickly abandoned any pretense of things being set a full year into the future.

It was incredibly shortsighted to attempt do this on a soap, because they run for decades...so you're forcing future writers to anticipate real world events that haven't even happened yet when writing the scripts, but particularly stupid to attempt on DAYS, which infamously shoots 8 months in advance.

So if a story is pitched in Jan 2025, and a script written in Feb 2025, and then it is filmed, say, April 2025 (I don't know what the delay time is there between those steps), but the episode only airs late Dec or early Jan 2026, then instead of writing a story supposedly set in Jan 2026, they'd have to set it in Jan 2027, in order to maintain the standard set by the time jump....!

No. There was no world in which Ron would set that up and not abandon it himself promptly afterwards. It's a massive inconvenience. Just a totally nonsensical thing to do.

....kinda like claiming Father John, the priest so devout he turned his back romantically on both Marlena and Kristen, met and slept with some asian gal -  even though we watched him on screen every day during this period and no such thing happened - who later revealed she bore him a son, Paul, simply so the show could further erode the audience's fondness for the gay Wilson romance and then unceremoniously murder Will without much objection, because Will had cheated with Paul and therefore was no longer likable.

*clears throat*

[boes]

Take aways from today's show.....

Rachel runs away!  Quick, folks, turn her bedrooms at both Marlena's penthouse and the Dimera Manse into other uses and when/if she returns, pretend you don't know who she is.  Or, send her to that island of Kristen's.

I don't care who Lady Whistleblower is, I don't care what Lady Whistleblower does, or says, or doesn't say.  I doubt few others do either.  And spoilers don't kill a show, crappy writing, bad exposition, poorly conceived characters portrayed by stutterbarking duds are what kill a show.  Did someone say "Leo"??

I've been trying to give NotDoug Williams III a chance but he's got all the presence of a block of government-issued cheese.  If he stands still for too long people are going to start mistaking him for a coat rack.

Don't you all feel bad for poor Holly?  It's just terrible that stupid Sophia got knocked up by Old Man Tate and her New Year's Eve was totally ruined.  How much more must she suffer, I ask you?  How much more??  It's almost as big a tragedy as the Lady Whistleblower saga.

With any luck, that new coat rack in town will be just what Holly needs.  He's certainly what she deserves.

Edited Saturday at 04:17 PM by boes

[Badger]

The problem with Rachel is Brady and Kristen's idea of discipline amounts to "Hey, Buddy, I'm real disappointed in you right now."

[CanaryFan98]

26 minutes ago, Badger said:

The problem with Rachel is Brady and Kristen's idea of discipline amounts to "Hey, Buddy, I'm real disappointed in you right now."

I read that in Brady's voice lol.

The problem with Rachel is that she exists in the first place. They should have kept her as Mickey or killed her off tbh. On paper a Bristen baby should provide great soapy drama and haunt Jarlena.  This isn't the case at all to me at least even less so with John gone now.

16 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Anybody else completely over the Leo show?

When were we under him?😘

[DisneyBoy]

14 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

On paper a Bristen baby should provide great soapy drama and haunt Jarlena.  This isn't the case at all to me at least even less so with John gone now.

They really didn't explore that angle and I wish they had.

They clearly tried to distance Eileen's John Era Kristen from the current version, whom they've kept fixated on Brady.

[brisbydog]

Rachel should have stayed Mackenzie. Her life was far better with Sarah as her mother and her conception was gross. But the show was dettermined that Ericole should only breed with each other.

I'd totally go for Rolf, who worked at University hospital in early 2019, stealing an embryo from Sarah who didn't know she was pregnant from her first Xander hook up. He told Kristen he was experimenting with ways to help her get pregnant. I'll never buy that she conceived naturally. Would be quite a twist if Xander swapped out Eric's dead baby for his own living one. And I'd love the fall out now if Rachel was never Kristen's.

I still hate that she was rewarded for raping Brady.

Edited Sunday at 12:42 PM by brisbydog

[CanaryFan98]

9 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

They really didn't explore that angle and I wish they had.

They clearly tried to distance Eileen's John Era Kristen from the current version, whom they've kept fixated on Brady.

ED's Kristen was fixated on Brady also but it was way more watchable than this version to me for a variety of reasons it also wasn't her complete personality either. When Marlena threw her out that window in Italy Kristen should've ended for good there (tbh in retrospect she should've just been stuck in white slavery in 1999 and never brought back). Instead they recasted the character and we've been stuck ever since. 

It's ok for characters who are villains to stay villains (Ava is another one but if I had to choose between the two, I rather watch Ava because she doesn't come across as a complete cartoon in her scenes).

[CanaryFan98]

4 hours ago, brisbydog said:

Rachel should have stayed Mackenzie. Her life was far better with Sarah as her mother and her conception was gross. But the show was determined that Ericole should only breed with each other.

I'd totally go for Rolf, who worked at University hospital in early 2019, stealing an embryo from Sarah who didn't know she was pregnant from her first Xander hook up. He told Kristen he was experimenting with ways to help her get pregnant. I'll never buy that she conceived naturally. Would be quite a twist if Xander swapped out Eric's dead baby for his own living one. And I'd love the fall out now if Rachel was never Kristen's.

I still hate that she was rewarded for raping Brady.

Which is baffling since Nicole shares a kid with Daniel, Sarah's brother. I don't see why Eric couldn't have a kid away from Nicole. When Serena came to town(and how we were introduced to Xander to begin with) her big secret should've been she had Eric's baby not that stupid elephant story that went nowhere. Then when Serena was murdered by Ben, that baby would've been raised by Eric.  Ben would've had some legit drama to deal with his therapist is the grandmother of the child who's mother he murdered. Eric and Marlena could've been at odds over it. The story writes itself and yet they did the opposite.

Rachel should've stayed Mackenzie because that show acts like that time jump doesn't exist anymore might as well undo everything else (like Adrienne's death which was also pointless). Nicole lied for nothing. 

I don't like her being rewarded for raping Brady either because Kristen not being able to have the one thing she wants should always drive her when it comes to her villainous ways. It would be like rewarding Stefano with having Marlena and having a child with her. Just no. 

I do like the idea of the embryo switch would've great parallels with Kate/Phillip/Vivian who are still around (well Kate/Phillip). Plus it's up Days alley with bizarre baby stories.

 

[brisbydog]

8 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Which is baffling since Nicole shares a kid with Daniel, Sarah's brother. I don't see why Eric couldn't have a kid away from Nicole. When Serena came to town(and how we were introduced to Xander to begin with) her big secret should've been she had Eric's baby not that stupid elephant story that went nowhere. Then when Serena was murdered by Ben, that baby would've been raised by Eric.  Ben would've had some legit drama to deal with his therapist is the grandmother of the child who's mother he murdered. Eric and Marlena could've been at odds over it. The story writes itself and yet they did the opposite.

Rachel should've stayed Mackenzie because that show acts like that time jump doesn't exist anymore might as well undo everything else (like Adrienne's death which was also pointless). Nicole lied for nothing. 

I don't like her being rewarded for raping Brady either because Kristen not being able to have the one thing she wants should always drive her when it comes to her villainous ways. It would be like rewarding Stefano with having Marlena and having a child with her. Just no. 

I do like the idea of the embryo switch would've great parallels with Kate/Phillip/Vivian who are still around (well Kate/Phillip). Plus it's up Days alley with bizarre baby stories.

 

Lol I forgot about Holly. I just wanted Daniel to never have existed.

I so wanted Sloan to have her baby, find out it needed a sibling bone marrow or something and have to tell Eric Jude was his to save their child. Way better than the recycled crap we got. And why did Jada have to get pregnant by him just to abort it? Bizarre to give Eric so many baby mommas in one year.

I'd take Mickey back but I never want to see Eric again in Xarah's orbit.

 

[DisneyBoy]

14 hours ago, brisbydog said:

I so wanted Sloan to have her baby, find out it needed a sibling bone marrow or something and have to tell Eric Jude was his to save their child. Way better than the recycled crap we got. And why did Jada have to get pregnant by him just to abort it? Bizarre to give Eric so many baby mommas in one year.

A medical emergency reveal would have been pretty cliche too, but I hear you.

In hindsight, I actually really like that Jada got pregnant by a guy who was too complicated to be tied to, and got an abortion. That's what they're for. How rarely do we see something like that on his show?

Plus she's better with Rafe, for whatever reason.

[CanaryFan98]

45 minutes ago, DisneyBoy said:

A medical emergency reveal would have been pretty cliche too, but I hear you.

In hindsight, I actually really like that Jada got pregnant by a guy who was too complicated to be tied to, and got an abortion. That's what they're for. How rarely do we see something like that on his show?

Plus she's better with Rafe, for whatever reason.

I prefer Rafe/Jada together as well at least you know he will actually value her compared to Eric even though she's way more interesting than he is. They at least act like an actual adult relationship. 

I found Jada being pregnant pointless because it was like for a day and it seemed to just be an excuse to split up Eric/Nicole(as if there weren't other ways to do so without dragging another interloper as collateral damage to that relationship).

[DisneyBoy]

Dear Kerry: we're with you.