The Compelling Victor Kiriakis Thread

[DisneyBoy]

...and by extension, the wonderful John Aniston. What a terrific performer. Both scary and hilarious. Badass and big-hearted. Days has been very lucky to have him.

Take a bow, Uncle Vic/Pop-up Victor!

Edited September 8, 2022 by DisneyBoy

[FnkyChkn34]

I love the photo with Bo and the ugly Christmas sweater!

But also, and this is slightly off topic, but a reason why I hate recasts with actors who were already on the show in a different role - is that a photo with Nicole and oldBrady or Nicole and newRex?  I'm sure it's oldBrady from the context, but still.  Ugh.  And is Victor choking Ben or Alex with the tie?  Again, I'm sure it's Ben, but... double ugh.

[Pearson80]

Disneyboy, you forgot to include pictures of Kim and Shane during the Miami storyline since Victor was their biggest antagonist.. 

[DisneyBoy]

37 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

Disneyboy, you forgot to include pictures of Kim and Shane during the Miami storyline since Victor was their biggest antagonist.. 

If you can find any, by all means post 'em! I spent quite some time trying to find pics. Amazingly there isn't much. Bo/Victor, Hope/Victor and Kim/Victor were especially scarce. And this forum doesn't accept links to pics from certain sites, which also limits things.

1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I hate recasts with actors who were already on the show in a different role

Exactly. Now we have confusion with Chris/Roman, Brady/Rex and Ben/Alex. So dumb. 

1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

And is Victor choking Ben or Alex with the tie?

Both! 😄

Seriously, I love that picture. 

[WendyCR72]

13 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

But also, and this is slightly off topic, but a reason why I hate recasts with actors who were already on the show in a different role

Well, he wasn't a recast of an old character, so he technically does not qualify. But, per the Soap Opera Network board, where a Top 57 (in honor of its [almost] 57 years on NBC!) actors/characters in terms of airtime, apparently, before Victor Kiriakis, John Aniston had a role 15 years before Victor, in 1970. (Guessing it was a minor character.) The board has photos of - I think - both roles...

[Bali]

I'm so happy for this thread. The news of his death has hit me hard. Victor was a favorite when I watched this show. 

[DisneyBoy]

What a weekend. Kevin Conroy and John Aniston.

We were so, so lucky to have him all these years.

I hope - but doubt - the show filmed something in anticipation of his passing to give the character some closure.

No more Pop-Up Victor 😔

[methodwriter85]

It would be nice if Jennifer leveled with Ken Corday that John didn't have much time left (anybody watching the show could see it) and they wrote him off appropriately, but with their past experience with Joesph/Stefan, I really wouldn't hold my breath.

Edited November 14, 2022 by methodwriter85

[Peanut6711]

Given how disjointed many of Days's normal transitions/scene cuts are, it won't surprise me if we get a grieving Maggie showing up at Zander and Sarah's door with the news of Victor's passing out of the blue. I suppose it wouldn't technically be unrealistic given Victor's age for it to be abrupt news, though I think I'd prefer the delivery of it be between Maggie and Justin (since he's been on the show w/John since the 80s) revealing that Victor passed unexpectedly but peacefully in his sleep. 

[greekmom]

Just came here to say I will miss Victor. I was a huge DOOL fan in the 80s up to the time the had Marlena possessed (first time) and thought the show jumped the shark and never watched again.

My fave has to be when John must have convinced the Days producers to go to Greece for Justin and Andrianne's first wedding.  Also when Bo found out he is Victor's son and tried to cozy up for the ISA. Ahhhh those were the Days. (no pun intended).

[Lisa418722]

I was a teenager when I started watching DOOL, but I always loved the Shawn Sr./Caroline/Victor triangle.  I know it wasn't a major triangle with Caroline going back and forth between Shawn and Victor, but it showed even though Caroline was older she still remembered how much she loved Victor.  It took a while, but Bo did accept having Victor as his father. Those were the Days (pun intended).  

Edited November 14, 2022 by Lisa418722

[RunningMarket]

The photos of John and Joseph break my heart.

While I didn't love all the lines he was asked to deliver, (the use of "slut" was a bit excessive), John had this way of delivering the snark and insults in such a way you just delighted in it. May he rest in peace.

[Frozendiva]

No idea where to put this.

[Peanut6711]

1 hour ago, boes said:

I know that Wally Kurth is still playing Justin, but he's hardly seen these days and the only other Kiriakis family members left onscreen are bottom feeder newbie character Alex and Sonny - I guess Shawn Douglas, though he barely registers as being related to Victor.  What a a pathetic legacy to leave behind after the glory of what John Aniston did with his role.

I was thinking the same thing earlier!  They should have built up Victor's family better over the years. I believe Wally is doing double duty on Days and GH, but I hope they can work it out that he plays a prominent role in Victor's death reveal/tribute.   I really hope it doesn't become a plot to prop Zander as he and Brady and Sonny/Alex fight over control of the company like the Dimeras do on a regular basis.  

Edited to Add: I hope JKJ comes back too since he played alongside JA on and off years as Philip, who I actually forgot about at the moment. 

Edited November 14, 2022 by Peanut6711

[WendyCR72]

John Aniston is gone?!

Oh, no!

I guess I knew this was going to happen sooner than later, but it is still a gut punch. John made you love to HATE Victor. Or just love him for his acidic asides.

Prayers to his family and friends, especially his daughter, Jennifer. I can only imagine her heartbreak right now.

Thanks for the decades of entertainment, Mr. Aniston! Fly high.

[WendyCR72]

Jennifer Aniston posted this on Instagram. The picture is beyond sweet:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck8aKjLrYzs/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Click the link as I have no idea how to embed Instagram posts.

[CanaryFan98]

Deimos could've been a good successor to Victor if he was developed a lot better because Vincent Irizarry is charismatic enough to have taken the mantle...

However yeah this is a huge loss for the show even though its not surprising that John passed he's not looked well at all.

May he RIP

Edited November 14, 2022 by CanaryFan98

[Frozendiva]

[Jaded]

On 9/8/2022 at 9:41 AM, Pearson80 said:

Disneyboy, you forgot to include pictures of Kim and Shane during the Miami storyline since Victor was their biggest antagonist.. 

[DisneyBoy]

Trust me, I search far and wide when compiling pics for these threads. Many aren't as easy to come by online as you'd think. Feel free to add your own :)

[CanaryFan98]

Brandon Beemer on Twitter: "@billnheyman I had a whole episode with John that was really sweetly written but we weren’t able to make it happen in time 😢" / Twitter

[DisneyBoy]

Wow. Sad. ShawnD has spent zero time with his grandad in the last decade.

[WendyCR72]

On 11/19/2022 at 4:28 PM, DisneyBoy said:

Wow. Sad. ShawnD has spent zero time with his grandad in the last decade.

To be fair, Bo made it clear long ago that he considered Shawn, Sr. his dad. Yes, Bo did soften his stance about Victor, but he never wavered about Shawn, Sr. So I just hand wave that Shawn (Douglas) took his cues from his dad, while Ciara was more accepting/curious about her Kiriakis roots.

(Besides, as much as I loved John Aniston/Victor, he did try to outright kill Bo at one point [during the time Victor wed Carly, who wanted Bo!], so Victor was lucky that Bo softened at all. LOL!)

[CanaryFan98]

3 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Wow. Sad. ShawnD has spent zero time with his grandad in the last decade.

Well tbh it makes sense after Victor tried to take Claire away from him so Phillip could have her etc.

They weren't close which is fitting given his namesake however that doesn't mean they couldn't have scenes or at least an uneasy alliance in that they love the same people(Ciara, Bo, etc). The show dropped the ball in that regard(and in so many other ways)

[Pearson80]

2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

To be fair, Bo made it clear long ago that he considered Shawn, Sr. his dad. Yes, Bo did soften his stance about Victor, but he never wavered about Shawn, Sr. So I just hand wave that Shawn (Douglas) took his cues from his dad, while Ciara was more accepting/curious about her Kiriakis roots.

(Besides, as much as I loved John Aniston/Victor, he did try to outright kill Bo at one point [during the time Victor wed Carly, who wanted Bo!], so he Victor was lucky that Bo softened at all. LOL!)

Thank you for saying that. It was not until Bo got cancer that he finally relented about Victor.  Before that he  always kept Victor at arms length out of respect for his sisters who Victor victimized for years and his dad Sean.  I remember Bo and Hope talking about their apprehension regarding Victor and their kids.. So Ciara came along when Bo was cordial to Victor and allowed him to have a relationship with her..

[Panopticon]

Right before the Cruise of Deception, Bo and Hope had a major fight about whether they were going to return to Salem so Shawn-D could go to a normal school or stay on the ocean forever. Bo’s reason for wanting to stay at sea? He didn’t want Victor to have access to Shawn-D!
 

After Hope’s “death” at Ernesto’s hands, Bo acceded to her wishes and took little Shawn home. Victor tried to comfort his motherless grandson— only to have toddler!Shawn pipe up “my mommy didn’t like you.” When Victor did get some access to Shawn, he discussed “bribing a jury” in front of him, not knowing that Shawn-D had recovered from a bout of deafness. Shawn-D was smart enough to wait until he was alone with Bo to ask “what’s a bribe and what’s a jury?” and Bo used Shawn-D to get Victor convicted. 
 

And of course Shawn was well aware that Victor essentially kept Carly prisoner when Carly wanted to be with Bo… even if he didn’t know the details of Victor dropping Carly down an elevator shaft while trying to murder Bo and leave Shawn an orphan. Shawn definitely understood it when Bo was dying of Lawrence’s virus (little Shawn-D had to call 911), and Victor refused to help until Carly implied that she would sleep with him if he did. 
 

By the time Ciara came along, Victor had been majorly softened by Isabella’s death; Shawn Senior was gone; and Bo/Hope were no longer so concerned about putting restrictions on their children’s access to Victor. But I kind of love that Shawn-D remained a product of the era in which he grew up. (Though truthfully his attitude toward Victor was probably more informed by Victor trying to steal Claire for Philip.) 

[CanaryFan98]

@Panopticon your post really drives home how they have marginalized Shawn D through the years. He used to be a pivotal character of the children then he's been reduced to Belle's appendage and not much else. I would like to think its because of ancient history he distrusts Victor but really its about Claire(which also makes since Claire is his daughter and she comes first). Speaking of Claire when they inevitably kill off Victor is she going to return to Salem to pay her respects. She did love her Pop Pop(although I don't buy Victor would accept her calling him that tbh).

[Panopticon]

I think Victor might suck it up and stomach Claire calling him pop-pop because he was glad to have her in his life, but I can’t imagine him liking it.

As for who comes back for the inevitable tribute, until proven otherwise I’ll expect that everything will revolve around Ciara and Ben until the ghostly form of Daniel Jonas visits from heaven to announce that Victor has safely entered the next world.

My self-indulgent fantasy includes, among other things that can’t actually happen for assorted real-life reasons:

• Shane and Kim escorting Tate to his great-grandfather’s funeral and privately making sure Victor’s really dead.
• Simultaneous appearances by all four of Justin’s sons.
• Simultaneous appearances by all of Bo’s surviving children. That means Chelsea, too.
• The reappearance of Philip’s long-lost son Tyler, possibly out for revenge.
• Lucas has a flashback to being a teenager playing tennis with Victor. Because this is my fantasy, I’m partial to Lucas, and those scenes were cute.
• All of Victor’s ex-wives having a drink together. Most especially Vivian. Non-wives like Yvette can come too. (And since this is fiction, Diana can appear in the form of Genie Francis and ignore anything attributed to the character in the last five years.) 
• Victor’s will takes a week to read because he’s called out 100 different Salemites by name, just for giggles. 
• Jennifer Aniston makes a cameo as the head of the crime family who absorbed Victor’s Greek businesses. Bonus points if she actually speaks Greek in the process. 

[Pearson80]

6 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

@Panopticon your post really drives home how they have marginalized Shawn D through the years. He used to be a pivotal character of the children then he's been reduced to Belle's appendage and not much else. I would like to think its because of ancient history he distrusts Victor but really its about Claire(which also makes since Claire is his daughter and she comes first). Speaking of Claire when they inevitably kill off Victor is she going to return to Salem to pay her respects. She did love her Pop Pop(although I don't buy Victor would accept her calling him that tbh).

I would like to add that Carrie Shawn-Douglas and Andrew Donovan were wonderfully written as kids and were always an integral part of their parents storylines.  They also had distinct personalities while inheriting certain traits from their parents..

Edited November 20, 2022 by Pearson80

[CanaryFan98]

30 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

I would like to add that Carrie Shawn-Douglas and Andrew Donovan were wonderfully written as kids and were always an integral part of their parents storylines.  They also had distinct personalities while inheriting certain traits from their parents..

Then they grew up (and Andrew's case just disappeared entirely until a few months ago) and the show had no idea what to do with them when they were the future of this show or should've been.

Edited November 20, 2022 by CanaryFan98

[Pearson80]

3 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Then they grew up (and Andrew's case just disappeared entirely until a few months ago) and the show had no idea what to do with them when they were the future of this show or should've been.

The only legacy kid that was important to the show was Sami..

Edited November 20, 2022 by Pearson80

[CanaryFan98]

This might be better in another thread but SN posted a picture of John's memorial and yes its the same church Justin/Adrienne were married in all those years ago in Greece

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClMdqoNyewj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Just now, Pearson80 said:

The only legacy kid that was important to the show was Sami.. 

Of the Bradys? Yes and I hated her go figure.

[Pearson80]

3 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

This might be better in another thread but SN posted a picture of John's memorial and yes its the same church Justin/Adrienne were married in all those years ago in Greece

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClMdqoNyewj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Of the Bradys? Yes and I hated her go figure.

Same here.. I only liked Sami when she was with Lucas..  

The show should have brought back Justin and Adrienne's other sons years ago write stories for them and how they relate to Victor..  

[CanaryFan98]

8 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

Same here.. I only liked Sami when she was with Lucas..  

The show should have brought back Justin and Adrienne's other sons years ago write stories for them and how they relate to Victor..  

Well I didn't care for Lumi because well Sami but I do think they make great friends/coparents at best. 

I do agree about how they should've brought back Justin/Adrienne's other sons years ago besides Sonny. It was a good idea to bring back Alex in the fold but it should've been ages ago not when Victor was at the end.

[Pearson80]

8 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Well I didn't care for Lumi because well Sami but I do think they make great friends/coparents at best. 

I do agree about how they should've brought back Justin/Adrienne's other sons years ago besides Sonny. It was a good idea to bring back Alex in the fold but it should've been ages ago not when Victor was at the end.

Alex should have come back when Will cheated on Sonny.  Alex's return would have brought back Anjelica who would have been focus on winning her son's love when it comes to Adrienne and not Justin. 

I always wanted to see Victor interact with his other great-nephews, he was willing to marry Anjelica in order to raise Alex as a Kiriakis.. Victor jr. was named after him and it would have been a hoot to see Victor interact with his namesake..

Edited November 20, 2022 by Pearson80

[Nique]

22 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Then they grew up (and Andrew's case just disappeared entirely until a few months ago) and the show had no idea what to do with them when they were the future of this show or should've been.

In Shawn's case I think it has more to do with the actor in the role than anything else. They wrote for JC's Shawn with Belle and without her with Mimi, he had his own stories too. Once Brandon Beemer was cast they seemingly had a different mindset when it came to Shawn. Rather it be he sucks or someone behind the scenes just doesn't like him as Shawn, they started writing him as nothing besides Belle's better half.

They don't involve him in family stuff like they do with Ciara see Beyond Salem both times. What also doesn't help is that their isn't a equal footing with him/MM like their was with JC/KS & JKJ/MM. If you were just watching this show you would not know that Shawn drove stories in his teen yrs & early 20s as part of the Last Blast Gang. Look how they treated him in his own rape story with Jan & Belle earlier this yr. Like I barely remember him a pov outside of being dumb down for Jan too move in with them & Belle have a reason to cheat again.

[CanaryFan98]

[Yogisbooboo64]

Judi looks wonderful!

Wonder if Patsy Pease (Kim) will be a part of the special, would love to see her back in Salem.

[CanaryFan98]

On 11/25/2022 at 12:39 PM, Yogisbooboo64 said:

Judi looks wonderful!

Wonder if Patsy Pease (Kim) will be a part of the special, would love to see her back in Salem.

That would be awesome but I highly doubt that's going to happen. She's had health problems which is why she didn't show up to Caroline's wake.

[Jaded]

[Pearson80]

On 11/27/2022 at 6:04 PM, CanaryFan98 said:

That would be awesome but I highly doubt that's going to happen. She's had health problems which is why she didn't show up to Caroline's wake.

I would love Kim to be there because she would be the person to remind the viewers about Victor's past as a villain. I get the impression that some fans just think that Victor was just a grouchy old man who was just a harmless teddy bear.  Kim was a total bitch to Victor when she came back for her dad's funeral and he was trying to be nice but Kim would have none of it telling him to get lost.. Caroline as always came to his defense.. 

Edited November 29, 2022 by Pearson80

[CanaryFan98]

19 hours ago, Pearson80 said:

I would love Kim to be there because she would be the person to remind the viewers about Victor's past as a villain. I get the impression that some fans just think that Victor was just a grouchy old man who was just a harmless teddy bear.  Kim was a total bitch to Victor when she came back for her dad's funeral and he was trying to be nice but Kim would have none of it telling him to get lost.. Caroline as always came to his defense.. 

I actually like that Kim has never softened with Victor even if they share a grandchild together. She even told him he would have to deal with her if she messed with Theresa being in Tate's life.

[DisneyBoy]

When was that again? Her warning Victor I mean...

[CanaryFan98]

17 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

When was that again? Her warning Victor I mean...

Back in 2016 this was when Melanie helped Brady/Theresa track down Tate who was going by Chris(which I thought was a better name) and raised by Kristen.  Kristen fell out the window and presumed dead(should've stayed that way tbh)

After they returned from Italy Kim came to town to visit Theresa/Tate and then confronted Victor(who knew the whole time Kristen had Tate and didn't want Brady to get sucked in by Theresa or Kristen) over what he did. 

This was probably the last scene the actors shared.

[DisneyBoy]

Ooooh right - when Kim was leaning toward Theresa moving back to LA with the baby. I didn't remember her scenes with Victor though.

[Panopticon]

9 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

Back in 2016 this was when Melanie helped Brady/Theresa track down Tate who was going by Chris(which I thought was a better name) and raised by Kristen.  Kristen fell out the window and presumed dead(should've stayed that way tbh)

After they returned from Italy Kim came to town to visit Theresa/Tate and then confronted Victor(who knew the whole time Kristen had Tate and didn't want Brady to get sucked in by Theresa or Kristen) over what he did. 

This was probably the last scene the actors shared.

I was surprised and delighted that the show really drove home Kim’s past with Victor in that story. There was a hilarious moment when Brady asked why Kim hated his grandfather so much and Kim looked at him like he was the dumbest human being to ever draw breath. (To be fair, there’s no reason Brady should know the dirty details of what Victor got up to long before Brady was born… but it was still funny.) 

On a show where the local serial killer gets to be the toast of the town because he has great abs, I adore that Kim shows up all “allow me to have flashbacks to my glorious 1985 hair and makeup while I continue to hate Victor.” 

[Nique]

12 hours ago, Panopticon said:

There was a hilarious moment when Brady asked why Kim hated his grandfather so much and Kim looked at him like he was the dumbest human being to ever draw breath. (To be fair, there’s no reason Brady should know the dirty details of what Victor got up to long before Brady was born… but it was still funny.) 

To be fair Kim wasn't far off the mark with that one. I still wonder how himbo dingbat Brady is John's son cause he so stupid.

[CanaryFan98]

20 hours ago, DisneyBoy said:

Ooooh right - when Kim was leaning toward Theresa moving back to LA with the baby. I didn't remember her scenes with Victor though.

Yes but Theresa wanted to stay and get Brady back. This was when she told Melanie to step aside or she was going to take Tate away from Brady. So Melanie did. Even though I didn't care for Melanie I actually didn't hate her and Brady entirely either. Probably because they were friends turned lovers and remained mature adults.

5 minutes ago, Nique said:

To be fair Kim wasn't far off the mark with that one. I still wonder how himbo dingbat Brady is John's son cause he so stupid.

I take it you didn't remember John from the 90s who didn't know Kristen was wearing a pillow...

[Nique]

32 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I take it you didn't remember John from the 90s who didn't know Kristen was wearing a pillow...

No 😂Maybe the apple doesn't fall too far afterwards 

[Jaded]

3 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I take it you didn't remember John from the 90s who didn't know Kristen was wearing a pillow...

That makes me think of how he used to make that one face all the time so much so that it became a running joke. I think it was called a "who farted" looking expression. Am I the only one remembering that?