Season 17 Live Chat Thread

[ezzy4]

Casting oneself in the role of victim is so dysfunctional.   There can be no resilution if you have decided you are being victimized.

[eskimo]

Kody is sooo freaking pissed that Christine and Jenelle are friends. 😂😂😂

[mythoughtis]

If it’s obvious then say it… or you are lying 

[Ms.Lulu]

This idea that Kody is allowed to complain about the wives, but the wives can't complain explains a lot. He wants them to commiserate with his plight, but not complain themselves.

They were supposed to keep sweet. 

Except that Janelle referred to Kody as a sieve in the last episode. And Janelle knows that because Kody bitches with Meri and Christine it means he is likely doing the same thing about her.

School yard rules are in effect.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Ms.Lulu

[Art Of Noiz]

4 minutes ago, Ms.Lulu said:

"I think Kody remembers it in a way that helps him."  I like that Janelle says, no, I liked Wyoming and my life, my career was taking off.

But I give Kody credit for admitting that polygamy is all about ego and marrying Christine meant he was marrying into ply royalty. 

I wonder how close Janelle and the family lived near Kody's dad, her mom, Kody's mom..and the other wife.

[meligator]

I wish Kody's paycheck would be deducted every time he doesn't answer a question.  That's why this exists dude.

[ezzy4]

Have a mentioned lately how much i hate kidney?! Ug.  Just...just...ug.

[Absolom]

9 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Why didn’t Suki know that Janelle left before,  we all knew 

No research.

[Ms.Lulu]

2 minutes ago, Art Of Noiz said:

I wonder how close Janelle and the family lived near Kody's dad, her mom, Kody's mom..and the other wife.

I heard she lived on their ranch for a while.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Ms.Lulu

[Adeejay]

Kody knows that if he were to say who he trusts, he would just be confirming what everyone else thinks.  Someone should probably tell him it's not a secret.  The whole world knows.

[eskimo]

5 minutes ago, ezzy4 said:

Casting oneself in the role of victim is so dysfunctional.   There can be no resilution if you have decided you are being victimized.

I don't believe either of those two want genuine resolution.  Their identity is victim and they don't know who they are without that. Kody especially thrives on having an adversary. 

[meligator]

Just now, Adeejay said:

Kody knows that if he were to say who he trusts, he would just be confirming what everyone else thinks.  Someone should probably tell him it's not a secret.  The whole world knows.

Right, he couldn't possibly be going for plausible deniability because there is no one left but Robyn for him to indicate of course he meant them, baby.

[ezzy4]

Just now, eskimo said:

I don't believe either of those two want genuine resolution.  Their identity is victim and they don't know who they are without that. Kody especially thrives on having an adversary. 

Exactly.  Christine sought resolution.  And found it in leaving Kidney.  That sooo pisses Kidney & Sobyn off 'cause they never even considered Christine had the option of "resolution".

[Julyolo]

Biggest tell from Kody tonite was when he said, "I WAS a polygamist...it's all ego." 

Big stress on that word WAS, in my opinion.

[Ms.Lulu]

Janelle: "If you have to sacrifice to love someone, that's not healthy.If you are you are really married to both women then you see both sides."

She says Kody is taking sides now.

Yep, for sure. And that's why he can't admit he has a favorite. It means he is a failure.

[eskimo]

Out of all these people, Jenelle is the only one who has a semblance of proper perspective. She'll even say that something is just from her view. 

[Ms.Lulu]

Robyn says, in the beginning it was difficult.

• Snarky comments
• Not including Robyn in things
• Pulling rank

That sounds like exactly what happened with Meri.

Or what happens with sisters. Families do that.

 

Edited January 2, 2023 by Ms.Lulu

[mythoughtis]

Suki is unfair to Christine in these interviews, and she treats Kody and Robyn with kid gloves 

[Twopper]

I keep expecting Kody to have a stroke from all his angry ranting 

 

[Art Of Noiz]

Janelle!! Tell it Queen.

[Adeejay]

Kody, I have news for you, but you are not a good man.

[ezzy4]

As always...."if people have a problem with me then they are being led astray"

[Ms.Lulu]

Suki is definitely favoring Kody and Robyn. The whole exchange about why didn't you ask for examples of being mean. 

Given all of the therapy and counseling, I find it difficult to believe it never came up then.

[Chris Knight]

3 minutes ago, Ms.Lulu said:

Robyn says, in the beginning it was difficult.

• Snarky comments
• Not including Robyn in things
• Pulling rank

That sounds like exactly what happened with Meri.

 

 

This also describes how Christine and Janelle probably felt when Robyn leap frogged over all 3 OG to become Legal Wife.

[Art Of Noiz]

4 minutes ago, Twopper said:

I keep expecting Kody to have a stroke from all his angry ranting 

 

Kinda hope so. 😈 

[ezzy4]

Oooo...Kidney learned him a new word...Assuage....very classy!!

[Julyolo]

When Kody refers to the children by the mother's name: "Christine's children, Janelle's children", not as the collective "our children." It is not so hard to imagine children are allocated time and resources by him based on how he feels about a child's mother at the time.

[Sedona]

In their book Janelle talks about what a third wheel to a happy couple she was in the beginning.

kody and Meri going away for the weekend together, on the couch today. Etc.

now kody says the marriage with Meri was rocky from honeymoon onwards. 

[Ms.Lulu]

Kody plays dirty. He wants to put out there that Christine left him because of a personality defect that she has--not a problem with their relationship and certainly not something that King Kody is accountable for.

He hopes that Christine will be alone. He wants her to suffer for leaving him.

He still holds out hope that Janelle will realize that she made the wrong choice in supporting Christine.

Except that we all see the truth.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Ms.Lulu

[Chris Knight]

1 minute ago, Julyolo said:

When Kody refers to the children by the mother's name: "Christine's children, Janelle's children", not as the collective "our children." It is not so hard to imagine children are allocated time and resources by him based on how he feels about a child's mother at the time.

But Robyn's kids are "our children " and "I have small children at home..."

[Twopper]

1 minute ago, Julyolo said:

When Kody refers to the children by the mother's name: "Christine's children, Janelle's children", not as the collective "our children." It is not so hard to imagine children are allocated time and resources by him based on how he feels about a child's mother at the time.

The Robynettes seem to be most favored 

[Ms.Lulu]

Three thoughts:

• I was surprised that Janelle said she and Christine worked on their relationship before she left. And that Kody may have conveniently not seen that.
• All of us want someone that cherishes them. I hope that Christine gets that.
• I liked the exchange about Christine's type and Suki taking it to sexual attraction. It felt like some of the realest conversation of the hour.

 

Edited January 2, 2023 by Ms.Lulu

[meligator]

Christine - I want a man who loves me and treats women well (unlike Kody)

[TexasTiffany]

I want Suki to ask if Kody was such a good dad, why none of his adult children want a polygamist marriage. 

[Art Of Noiz]

Just now, Ms.Lulu said:

I was surprised that Janelle said she and Christine worked on their relationship before she left. And that Kody may have conveniently not seen that.

All of us want someone that cherishes them. I hope that Christine gets that.

I liked the exchange about Christine's type and Suki taking it to sexual attraction. It felt like some of the realest conversation of the hour.

 

Shemar Moore! Yeahbabay!!

[eskimo]

Is Kody for real right now, going off about how Christine has just been trashing him to everyone?  He has been King Shit Talker.  He has dragged her name through the absolute mud. But everything he says about her are actually qualities of his.

Poor old Kody, just sittin' there, cap in hand... 🙄  That reminds me, can we shove that phrase up his ass already? Lol

[Ms.Lulu]

As this second hour wraps up, I think the MVP of the week is Janelle.

Janelle stayed mostly balanced in her assessment of events and she was willing to share the good, the bad and the ugly. 

She also stays very calm, not riled by emotions like Kody, or strategy like Robyn. She isn't looking for a pound of flesh, like Meri. And Janelle understands that Christine should be free to step away to live her best life.

 

[Ms.Lulu]

Still no tears when Robyn says she is feeling emotional and supposedly crying.

 

[Art Of Noiz]

3 minutes ago, eskimo said:

Is Kody for real right now, going off about how Christine has just been trashing him to everyone?  He has been King Shit Talker.  He has dragged her name through the absolute mud. But everything he says about her are actually qualities of his.

Poor old Kody, just sittin' there, cap in hand... 🙄  That reminds me, can we shove that phrase up his ass already? Lol

That's what Narcissists do. Deflect.

[ezzy4]

"I'm sorry.  I feel embarrassed when i get emotional"  lololololololololololololol

[meligator]

If Robyn really wanted more for the family then she would have told Kody to go to Ysabel's surgery since that was super invasive and  important.

[Adeejay]

Kody doesn't want to talk about Robyn?!  The hell.  

[TexasTiffany]

Robyn is now blaming the other wives for dumping Kody on her? Like she's sick of him and can't get rid of him? Robyn thinks it's unfair. LOL

 

Edited January 2, 2023 by TexasTiffany

[Twopper]

Oh, come on Kody. Let’s just elevate Robyn to Sainthood. 
 

[mythoughtis]

Just now, Adeejay said:

Kody doesn't want to talk about Robyn?!  The hell.  

He seems mad about something 

[Julyolo]

Robyn has had a real reversal of fortune, LOL. Demoted from head of a harem, to a marriage with a loser that has had 3 other wives' dump him.

[Ms.Lulu]

Yep, Kody doesn't want to talk about Robyn because it will be clear she is the favorite. Then it means that his dramatic response to Christine leaving will be revealed to be solely an ego blow.

I am so glad this season is wrapping up next week.

I'm still hoping that it is the series finale.

See you then!

1 minute ago, TexasTiffany said:

Robyn is now blaming the other wives for dumping Kody on her? Like she's sick of him and can't get rid of him? Robyn thinks it's unfair. LOL

 

She thinks we don't remember them asking Kody to spend time with them/their kids.

[ezzy4]

Night all!!! 

[toodywoody]

He just really is the big turd clogging up the sewer. With his bullshit getting emotional, to sticking the tongue out, to dodging questions, placing blame on one person to the big pause to get a drink from his coffee cup.

Robyn and how it is all about her and how they took it away to the divide being about Covid. She's so full of shit. So your sister wife, who you never know anything about their relationship with Kidney is suffering and you make it all about yourself. Wow, what a sister wife. And I loved how she said how Christine didn't want a relationship with her kids. That's not what she said.

Two people never seemed so right for one another. They both hear what they want to hear and blame all on everyone else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[eskimo]

I think this Live Chat Thread should stay open until 30 min after the live show ends. There is so much pausing to comment without missing anything, that I am more like 15 min behind by now, and the thread closes in 3 minutes. I won't be done watching when it closes.  Is this a problem for anyone else, or do others not pause to comment?