S42.E05: I'm Survivor Rich

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Birnam Wood said:

Production seems to have fully dispensed with the stupid rebus clues they had on the side of the immunity challenge structures last season. I wonder how many tears Probst shed when he realized that the audience was not, in fact, playing along?

Perhaps they attempted one this season and Tori rolled her eyes at it. And then Maryanne wouldn't stop talking about it. And then it made Daniel's shoulder spontaneously pop out of its socket.

Pretty sure Jonathan heaved the whole thing onto his shoulder with one hand, strode majestically into the ocean, and flung it out toward the horizon. Jeff fainted with delight and the rebus puzzle was never mentioned again.

Though word has it that it washed up on shore at the Cook Islands, and Becky and Sundra are still trying to set it on fire to this day.

Edited April 11, 2022 by tracyscott76

[HurricaneVal]

What really happened though is that when viewers played along, the message always came out to be the Survivor equivalent of "Drink your Ovaltine" so we lost interest.

 

 

True confession:  I go to a "Survivor Night" viewing party with friends, we've been doing this for years.  Last season, my eagle eyed buddy would always pause the DVR when he spotted the rebus puzzle, then we'd all decipher it together.  I honestly cannot tell you what any of the results were because they were universally lame and forgettable Survivor cliches.

[blackwing]

4 hours ago, Birnam Wood said:

Production seems to have fully dispensed with the stupid rebus clues they had on the side of the immunity challenge structures last season. I wonder how many tears Probst shed when he realized that the audience was not, in fact, playing along?

Perhaps they attempted one this season and Tori rolled her eyes at it. And then Maryanne wouldn't stop talking about it. And then it made Daniel's shoulder spontaneously pop out of its socket.

It's too bad, my kids really enjoyed them.  They liked freezing the DVR and trying to solve it, I would only step in if they needed help.  And they liked the fact that they accumulated all the phrases/letters from each week and then solved some overall season puzzle.

On 4/9/2022 at 7:55 PM, millennium said:

Maryanne is exhibiting exactly the kind of behavior the casting people want her to.  I suspect that's why she was chosen for the show.  To be EXTRA.   And they are exploiting her OTT tendencies for entertainment.   In that light, it seems almost cruel.  

I also wonder how people would react to a man behaving as Maryanne is.   

Well, I think Daniel on this season comes close.  I think people would view a man acting the way she does as annoying and/or weird.  Remember Tai and the chickens?  Generally I think many people thought Tai was strange.

On 4/10/2022 at 7:18 AM, Scatterbrained said:

When Drea spoke her potato phrase before the challenge Tori instantly alerted and gave her a look.  Tori has already said she will flip, I don’t think it will be just because of her annoyance with Rocksroy.

Mike was bad with his phrase, but I didn't think Drea was that much more believable either.  Didn't she talk about having a potato and peeling it?  It didn't seem like a metaphor, I think she was saying they actually had a potato.  I don't think there are any potatoes on the island, are there?

[Birnam Wood]

3 hours ago, tracyscott76 said:

Pretty sure Jonathan heaved the whole thing onto his shoulder with one hand, strode majestically into the ocean, and flung it out toward the horizon. Jeff fainted with delight and the rebus puzzle was never mentioned again.

Though word has it that it washed up on shore at the Cook Islands, and Becky and Sundra are still trying to set it on fire to this day.

Marry me, tracyscott76.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Birnam Wood said:

Marry me, tracyscott76.

Lol, if I had known that making snarky comments about Survivor would lead to a proposal from someone, I would have been trying it more often.

Ok, what the hell...come on over to Dunsinane and let's see how it goes 😆

[Chicago Redshirt]

48 minutes ago, tracyscott76 said:

Lol, if I had known that making snarky comments about Survivor would lead to a proposal from someone, I would have been trying it more often.

Ok, what the hell...come on over to Dunsinane and let's see how it goes 😆

A. That doesn't end well for anyone! 

B. <quiet voice> I liked the rebus puzzles....

[Nashville]

On 4/8/2022 at 3:41 PM, blackwing said:

I don't think I've heard him make any "prideful" comments.  My thinking is that she just assumes he is a prideful person because of his muscles and his looks.  She must think that someone who puts that much work into his body is a vain person?  

My take was a little darker: that Maryanne perceives anybody who presents any degree of opposition or contradiction to her as “evil”, and “pride” was the first Deadly Sin Maryanne could think to pull out of her hat.  In my experience, not really all that strange in the context of seminary students….  🙄

[Birnam Wood]

2 hours ago, tracyscott76 said:

Lol, if I had known that making snarky comments about Survivor would lead to a proposal from someone, I would have been trying it more often.

Ok, what the hell...come on over to Dunsinane and let's see how it goes 😆

IT WORKS WITH MY USERNAME.

Like the tale of Zach and Marianne… it’s destiny. 😉

[MMLEsq]

On 4/8/2022 at 10:34 PM, Mediocre Gatsby said:

Oh, I am all in for Team Gallic Shrugs and will be desperately disappointed if that never happens. 

What I would love to see -- instead of shocked! looks or shrugs/indifference -- would be for one of the other teams to let out a cheer and start high-fiving each other.  

[CountryGirl]

On 4/7/2022 at 5:12 AM, JudyObscure said:

I thought Drea was going to be my favorite this year, until she found that idol and started talking about herself as the first woman to ever really play Survivor, the rest having just stirred rice.  Plus she's teamed up with Skinny-guy who has dedicated his life to empowering women -- by coaching beauty pageant contestants. 

All I could think about when she said this was:

Obviously there are plenty of other examples of women who played the hell out of Survivor such that I still remember them and their moves all these years later while I couldn't pick most of the folks from the last 10 or so seasons out of a lineup.

[grandmabegum]

Yeah, that statement by Drea is ridiculous for several reasons.

1] The game has changed so much since the beginning that it's unfair to compare early season players to later when advantages started appearing.

2] Sometimes just cooking rice and talking is the best strategy for any gender. Dominating challenges, unless you can do it for the long haul can be detrimental. Same with going out and looking for idols. If people see you acting shady it just puts a target on your back. So cooking rice isn't a "big move" but sometimes it's the best move.

3] It's just insulting to the women who have played this game so well before her.

[ProfCrash]

I give Drea the benefit of the doubt. There has been talk about why it is that Women tend not to find as many idols as Men do for a few years. I have seen people post stats on it. Women tend to win less frequently than Men. There has been discussion on why Women are penalized more for lying and backstabbing than Men. The focus on why female alliances don't work.

Drea's comment was a broad generalization but plays on the discussions that I have been reading, to include on this board, for a while. It was an inelegant talking head but it is not coming out of left field. 

There are a long list of strong female players for Survivor but there have been some pretty glaring discrepancies as well. 

 

 

[peachmangosteen]

Yea, I think I got what she meant and agreed with her but she just said it in a strange way that just wasn't really relevant anymore.

[CountryGirl]

On 4/7/2022 at 11:35 AM, Chicago Redshirt said:

I only remember two: Miles O'Brien and Albert Brooks. Both are reasonably close IMO. (Sorry, don't know how to put the actual pictures side by side, so it'll just have to be links).

https://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/cast/216608/

https://www.startrek.com/database_article/obrien-miles

https://ew.com/article/2012/01/24/best-reactions-albert-brooks-and-patton-oswalt-tweet-about-their-oscar-snubs/

He also reminds me of a Cabbage Patch doll.

[WearyTraveler]

1 hour ago, ProfCrash said:

I give Drea the benefit of the doubt. There has been talk about why it is that Women tend not to find as many idols as Men do for a few years. I have seen people post stats on it. Women tend to win less frequently than Men. There has been discussion on why Women are penalized more for lying and backstabbing than Men. The focus on why female alliances don't work.

Drea's comment was a broad generalization but plays on the discussions that I have been reading, to include on this board, for a while. It was an inelegant talking head but it is not coming out of left field. 

There are a long list of strong female players for Survivor but there have been some pretty glaring discrepancies as well. 

 

 

I think the issue is that her comment put the onus of the unfairness on women, as if they were to blame for the imbalances people see in the game regarding gender. While there might be some if that going on, I think the discussions about this topic are pointing at inherent biases in the game, the players, the audience and society in general when it comes to how they perceive women and how they think women should act. 

For example, in the business world, if a woman in a supervisory role calls out an employee for doing something wrong, she must be suffering from PMS, but if a man does it, he's making the tough decisions required for his job. This is obviously unfair to women and it's not the woman's fault that some people have this bias. The onus is on those people to correct their paradigm, it's not on the women to change the behaviour, as the behaviour is a required part of the job.

[PurpleTentacle]

Jonathan said he was 6'4" and 250lbs. I assume he generiously rounded up on his weight. I'm 6'8", around that weight, so I kinda know what I'm talking about. I know muscle weighs more than fat, but still, that's not enough muscle on Jonathan to get to 250lbs.

Daniels tribe mates are just looking for any excuse to be pissed at him, right? Or they are the biggest dumbasses on the planet who don't understand basic human anatomy. I can't decide. Guys, his shoulder was dislocated and got popped back in, now he can't put too much strain on it in fear that it might happen again. So he sits out challanges and tries to make up for it be doing activities that are exhausting, but don't put much strain/preassure on his shoulder, like fishing. How is that so hard to understand?

Did I misunderstand how the idol works or did Mike? My understanding was that if it isn't activated by the time the tribes merge, it become useless. But Mike has said the opposite multiple times. That if he didn't activate it now, nobody would know he had it and he'd have an idol at the merge...