S04.E23: Life After Lockup: I Plead the Fifth

[PrincessPurrsALot]

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Shawn is ready to take the next step, but Sara is unsure after she discovers a new secret.  Plus Shane and Lacey's fresh start goes bad. 

More Shawn secrets; quelle surprise!  Shawn is unable to tell the truth.  That has been established again and again.  He is also not bright enough to keep his lies straight. Sara, please take the advice of Hall and Oates, "If you feel like leaving, you know you can go."  Go.  Don't stay until tomorrow.  

More Chane and Lacey.  Malicious wounder Chane continues to do only fans to get money.  Lacey continues to attempt to show emotion on her Easter Island head face. She is shocked that men pay for only fans.  After all, I'm sure she doesn't take money from men online.  Oh wait . . . . Chane makes more terrible hair choices.  Lacey continues to pet her My Pretty Pony hair. Wash, rinse, repeat. 

Original air date 2021.11.19

[Red Bridey]

Where oh where is the Pickle Girl and her Big Dill?

[hookedontv]

On 11/14/2021 at 10:44 AM, PrincessPurrsALot said:

Lacey continues to attempt to show emotion on her Easter Island head face.

Dead. Don't bother calling 911, I'm completely dead. 

[JenE4]

“Legal things happened.” So, Lacey told Chane about Chon, he got violent, and you called the police on Chane and had him arrested? And then THAT NIGHT you move on with Chon?!? Something must have happened after f’ing “all night long” that Chon realized he made a mistake in the morning, or else Lacey would be planning her next wedding with Chon, not moping under her throw blanket on the couch. But, I’m actually shocked it took two whole years before she got Chane arrested so she can fuck Chon. That’s more restraint than I would have given her credit for. 

[OoogleEyes]

I'm getting my red velvet evening slacks ready for two weeks from now. Get ready!

[SemiCharmedLife]

3 hours ago, JenE4 said:

“Legal things happened.” So, Lacey told Chane about Chon, he got violent, and you called the police on Chane and had him arrested? And then THAT NIGHT you move on with Chon?!? Something must have happened after f’ing “all night long” that Chon realized he made a mistake in the morning, or else Lacey would be planning her next wedding with Chon, not moping under her throw blanket on the couch. But, I’m actually shocked it took two whole years before she got Chane arrested so she can fuck Chon. That’s more restraint than I would have given her credit for. 

I think you are right about that- Lacy would be all a-twitter about Chon, if he were still in the picture.  I think the producers should have pressed Lacy about the arrest situation so we could know what happened.  After all, she is on a reality tv show.  She's not afraid to put everything else (literally) out there.  

[Keywestclubkid]

8 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I think you are right about that- Lacy would be all a-twitter about Chon, if he were still in the picture.  I think the producers should have pressed Lacy about the arrest situation so we could know what happened.  After all, she is on a reality tv show.  She's not afraid to put everything else (literally) out there.  

She pushes buttons to get the reaction she wants then plays the victim to weaponize not only the police but their emotional involvement with the demure blonde woman who through no “fault” of her own is the one wronged. We watched her do this to John when she had him arrested after a fight seasons ago ( and her first episode of this show when she threatened to call his parole officer and have him arrested after he just got out cause he wasn’t doing what she wanted) and saw how she manipulated that therapist with blaming everything on Shane and once again acting like an innocent party. This is her MO she is a shitty person all the way around.   
 

am I saying that Shane and John are innocent in all this? no they should learn to walk away. but she is the common denominator in all of this and tries to act like she is completely innocent and should have no repercussions because she has gotten away with weaponizing her “victim hood” 

Edited November 20, 2021 by Keywestclubkid

[Gobi]

9 hours ago, OoogleEyes said:

I'm getting my red velvet evening slacks ready for two weeks from now. Get ready!

I'm shopping for a holiday straitjacket.

[Lambie]

I'm 5 minutes into the ep and I have to stop to catch my breath.

Derrick: "I support all foolishness and shenanigans."

**dying**

Everyone needs a friend like Derrick. Although I'm disappointed he's been married THREE times! 

[Empress1]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

She pushes buttons to get the reaction she wants then plays the victim to weaponize not only the police but their emotional involvement with the demure blonde woman who through no “fault” of her own is the one wronged. We watched her do this to John when she had him arrested after a fight seasons ago ( and her first episode of this show when she threatened to call his parole officer and have him arrested after he just got out cause he wasn’t doing what she wanted) and saw how she manipulated that therapist with blaming everything on Shane and once again acting like an innocent party. This is her MO she is a shitty person all the way around.   
 

am I saying that Shane and John are innocent in all this? no they should learn to walk away. but she is the common denominator in all of this and tries to act like she is completely innocent and should have no repercussions because she has gotten away with weaponizing her “victim hood” 

It is her version of white woman tears. I agree with you 100%. I also agree that John must have expressed remorse and ditched her in the morning (maybe he feels bad for cheating on his girlfriend) because we know Lacey doesn’t care about cheating. She’s cheated on Shane with John before and she cheated on her oldest 3 kids’ father with John (I bet she’s cheated on everyone she’s ever been with with John, except when she’s been with John).

Sarah moved HER KID in with Shawn, who she barely knows? And she wants more kids with him? Girl, WHAT? I am trying to like her but her focus is all wrong. Does she have a job? Like, focus on getting your life right for your kid and worry way, WAY less about the D.

OF COURSE Brittany celebrates her birthday all month. No further comment.

I would 100% watch a Derrick spin-off about his foolishness, shenanigans, and three marriages. Team Derrick all day.

I don’t know what to make of Puppy. She seems really lost.

[Back Atcha]

2 hours ago, Empress1 said:

OF COURSE Brittany celebrates her birthday all month. No further comment.

If only there were "no further Britney."  I'm fine with Ray...but he needs to RUN!!!

It is interesting to see Britney being SO entitled...SO demanding.  Seems like her parents created a self-assured little monster of a kid.

[Back Atcha]

3 hours ago, Empress1 said:

I would 100% watch a Derrick spin-off about his foolishness, shenanigans, and three marriages. Team Derrick all day

There are:

• Foolishness
• Shenanigans
• Three Marriages

Additionally:

• Intelligence
• Respect (Deonte's mother)
• Common Sense
• Good Advice
• Humor

[Back Atcha]

3 hours ago, Empress1 said:

Sarah moved HER KID in with Shawn, who she barely knows? And she wants more kids with him? Girl, WHAT? I am trying to like her but her focus is all wrong. Does she have a job? Like, focus on getting your life right for your kid and worry way, WAY less about the D.

Are Sarah AND Shawn doing everything they can to stay "relevant" as reality TV "stars" ?  I can't think of any other reason they're still on my TV.

"Does she have a job?"  Is she a model or designer for various "Kristianna"eyebrow stencil schemes?

Edited November 20, 2021 by Back Atcha

[Merriwind]

I just binged watched the last several episodes. Does Shane have no family? Where is his mother? He needs a parent so much more than his manipulative, much older, porn star wife. At 23, he is a baby—a baby who spent his brief adulthood in prison. 

And Ray, just run. Don't look back. You seem to have a good head on your shoulders, but Britany is never going to be happy, so neither will you.

Daonte, please listen to your mom. Doesn't your head hurt from banging it against the wall so many times? Also, the previews make me suspect you might be color blind.

 

[Jeanne222]

So Brittany and Ray are going on a birthday weekend to celebrate her!  Run Ray. Run as fast as you can!

Beaver and Red.  Moving In together.  Another baby!  Have mercy. 
 

Shane and shown and the porn star. Did dad have the baby too along with the other three?

Will dad ever say ‘ENOUGH’?

[Elizzikra]

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Everyone needs a friend like Derrick. Although I'm disappointed he's been married THREE times! 

I am my husband's fourth wife. Shit happens.

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Sarah moved HER KID in with Shawn, who she barely knows? And she wants more kids with him? Girl, WHAT? I am trying to like her but her focus is all wrong. Does she have a job? Like, focus on getting your life right for your kid and worry way, WAY less about the D.

The "smartest" thing I've ever heard Shawn say (it's a low bar) is that the six kids he has already are enough. He doesn't parent them and putting together a treehouse bed (albeit a very cute one) for his stepdaughter isn't exactly evidence that he's father of the year material. Sarah definitely needs to slow way, way down.

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I just binged watched the last several episodes. Does Shane have no family? Where is his mother? He needs a parent so much more than his manipulative, much older, porn star wife. At 23, he is a baby—a baby who spent his brief adulthood in prison. 

I can't remember what we might have ever known about Shane's family but he is so young and he really has spent his entire adult life in prison. He's really never had much of a chance. I know he said in the most recent episode that he wanted his daughter to have the stable family life he never had but that's all I know about his family. That baby is adorable though. I want to grab her and run.

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OF COURSE Brittany celebrates her birthday all month. No further comment.

What a bonehead. Ray gets a job and the first things she says is "now we can get rings and plan a wedding." Then it's her birthday and she wants him to spend whatever little money he might hang onto after paying restitution to treat her to an expensive trip to Miami so she can "drink out the bottle." Grow up, Britney.

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On 11/20/2021 at 10:48 AM, Empress1 said:

John must have expressed remorse and ditched her in the morning

Maybe he got a good look at her in daylight.

[Empress1]

1 hour ago, Elizzikra said:

The "smartest" thing I've ever heard Shawn say (it's a low bar) is that the six kids he has already are enough. He doesn't parent them and putting together a treehouse bed (albeit a very cute one) for his stepdaughter isn't exactly evidence that he's father of the year material. Sarah definitely needs to slow way, way down.

Her kid barely knows HER. She spent her kid's whole life locked up and she said she didn't want her kid visiting her in prison. Sarah has removed her from the only parent she has known (Sarah's mother) and has put her in a situation where she is essentially being raised by strangers. The daughter has met Shawn ONCE, and I don't know how long it's been since Sarah got out of prison but I think it's safe to say that she and her daughter are still getting used to each other.

1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

Maybe he got a good look at her in daylight.

Ha. He's known her since before all her surgeries so I doubt it matters. But I think he had a girlfriend and maybe he regrets cheating on her.

1 hour ago, Elizzikra said:

Then it's her birthday and she wants him to spend whatever little money he might hang onto after paying restitution to treat her to an expensive trip to Miami so she can "drink out the bottle."

I wonder if Ray has to literally account for every dollar he spends, or if his wages are garnished because of the restitution. I know (from a different reality show, heh) that if you owe the IRS money that you can't pay back in one lump sum, they'll work on a payment plan with you. (My accountant says the IRS isn't as scary as people think - at the end of the day, they just want their money and will work with you to get it. People get fucked up by dodging the IRS, but if you owe them and are like "How can we get right?" they'll work with you.) But to do that payment plan, you have to give them a budget of your essentials. I wonder if Ray has to do anything like that? I know he said he has to check with his parole officer to see if he can leave the state; I wonder if he has to account for his spending too.

Doesn't he owe like $150K? Brittany doesn't seem to get that he'll be broke for years paying that back, and in order to NOT be broke for years, he needs to prioritize paying that over trips to Miami and rings and weddings. I doubt they make more than $25K doing this show (which, hey, if he's getting that plus whatever he gets at his day job, more power to him), which isn't much before taxes - he's still way in the hole.

Edited November 22, 2021 by Empress1

[Gobi]

Shawn’s kids got him a “World’s Greatest Absentee Dad” coffee mug.

[1011101010001]

21 minutes ago, Gobi said:

Shawn’s kids got him a “World’s Greatest Absentee Dad” coffee mug.

Considering the role model he would be, they may be better off.

[Empress1]

14 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Considering the role model he would be, they may be better off.

I hated it for his kid but I loved when one of his kids told Shawn straight to his face that he was a shitty father. (It doesn’t seem to have made an impact on him though, because he is a shitty father.)

[Elizzikra]

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Doesn't he owe like $150K? 

I think it's either $141,000 or $143,000...

[Back Atcha]

17 hours ago, Empress1 said:

Doesn't he owe like $150K? Brittany doesn't seem to get that he'll be broke for years paying that back, and in order to NOT be broke for years, he needs to prioritize paying that over trips to Miami and rings and weddings. I doubt they make more than $25K doing this show (which, hey, if he's getting that plus whatever he gets at his day job, more power to him), which isn't much before taxes - he's still way in the hole.

$143K, but let's not quibble. Ray might eventually determine that prison is safer for him--and the only place he'll have peace of mind AS LONG AS BRITNEY is in his life.

[Back Atcha]

18 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

He doesn't parent them and putting together a treehouse bed (albeit a very cute one) for his stepdaughter

She'll never be HIS stepdaughter; let's hope she can continue to live with her grandmother and things go well.

I thought the loft bed looked trashy...but MORE, who has to make the bed?  He probably thinks the little girl is capable because he has NEVER lived with kids (I assume).

[Empress1]

1 hour ago, Elizzikra said:

I think it's either $141,000 or $143,000...

I mean, same difference, really, especially when you’re not making much, as he apparently is not. (I haven’t forgotten that “oh shit, he BROKE-broke” face Brittany made when she saw his check.) And I wonder if it draws interest. Money you owe the IRS does. (Meanwhile the IRS has owed me money for a year, but do I get interest? No.)

Edited November 22, 2021 by Empress1

[hookedontv]

What a bunch of idiots on this show and I'm 100% here for it. 

Brittany: Bitch with entitlement issues. Who does she think she is? And who does she think Ray is? Girl is delusional constantly talking about a nice ring and saying that her stupid and expensive bday trip to Miami is the perfect place for Ray to propose to her. Celebrating her bday for a month-I can't stand her. Brittany wants a "wedding" and not a marriage. You want to get married? Buy a cute dress and go to city hall like a zillion other people have done. Go out to dinner afterwards. Or, hey, if you are dead set on going to Miami -- go to city hall and get married before hand and use that stupid trip as your wedding celebration. Ugh.

Lacey (I'm still dead from the "Easter Island Face" comment). What a shit stirrer. And, of course the kids are at her dad's house. He appears to be their primary caretaker. She's the victim, sitting on the couch petting her hair, telling the world she and John/Chon fucked all night long. You must be so proud of yourself Lacey. I don't think your dad or your kids will feel the same.

Sara: Girl, what do you mean you want to have kids with Shawn? That lying doofus already has 6 that he doesn't support, why would you ever want him to have more? Lovely, move your daughter in with a guy you just met. What an idiot.

I have more comments but I'm so rage-y already. ANd again - I'm 100% here for it! 

On 11/20/2021 at 8:47 AM, Gobi said:

I'm shopping for a holiday straitjacket.

Stan may have some leather holiday straighjtackets in his love den. I mean, basement. 

[1011101010001]

Lacey also reminds me of the Picasso in Chicago.

 

 

4 hours ago, hookedontv said:

Sara: Girl, what do you mean you want to have kids with Shawn? That lying doofus already has 6 that he doesn't support, why would you ever want him to have more? Lovely, move your daughter in with a guy you just met. What an idiot.

Imagine how the daughter would feel after finally getting some time with mom and then mom instead dotes on a newborn.

Edited November 22, 2021 by MrBuhBye