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S04.E17: Life After Lockup: Not One to Mess With


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1 hour ago, anoninrva said:

Daonte's mom wins the night, but she clearly had dropped him on the head as a baby.

 

1 hour ago, anoninrva said:

Daonte's mom wins the night, but she clearly had dropped him on the head as a baby.

She's a terrific lady and I hope Daonte takes her advice.  She's had to suffer through a few of these crazy relationships already.  Who knew Nicolle Jr would be the prize?

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Shawn has not learned his lesson on lying about his age and number of kids! Then again, these paroles stick around to continue milking the cash cow for a while longer, so he’s not seeing the direct connection between his lying and the broken foundation of the relationship. Just wait until she finds out about his six kids—especially since he’s so aghast over her one child that she told him about as soon as she met him in person. Instead of taking the opening, Shawn took to his fainting couch.

Prison birthday cake! Microwaved Nila wafers doused in Sprite and Coke, covered in creamer and candy bars. Stan can’t keep track of all of the sex-for-hire sites he’s on. Maybe some of them are on the barter system or take cryptocurrency. Lisa came with the receipts! And Stan “incriminates” himself by saying he gave her $15,000 this month. You guys are both arguing the same point!

Tia made it to the couples tiles! I guess the throuple is official now. The three-way relationship is what makes Mama question whether she dropped Daonte on his head as a baby? Ma’am, you have a wealth of evidence leading to the conclusion that your child isn’t right in the head.

What is the deal with this Star Food Lounge with a step-and-repeat on the wall, hookahs (during COVID!), fluorescent yellow paint rivaling the bright fluorescent lighting, disco lights flashing. This place is a tragedy. Looks like everyone got the chicken Caesar salad. Sammy doesn’t realize Amber is getting this drink because “she’s a celebrity” not because some dude is trying to steal her away.

Brittany is going to “catch” a B&E charge. 

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1 hour ago, JenE4 said:

Shawn has not learned his lesson on lying about his age and number of kids! Then again, these paroles stick around to continue milking the cash cow for a while longer, so he’s not seeing the direct connection between his lying and the broken foundation of the relationship. Just wait until she finds out about his six kids—especially since he’s so aghast over her one child that she told him about as soon as she met him in person. Instead of taking the opening, Shawn took to his fainting couch.

Prison birthday cake! Microwaved Nila wafers doused in Sprite and Coke, covered in creamer and candy bars. Stan can’t keep track of all of the sex-for-hire sites he’s on. Maybe some of them are on the barter system or take cryptocurrency. Lisa came with the receipts! And Stan “incriminates” himself by saying he gave her $15,000 this month. You guys are both arguing the same point!

What is the deal with this Star Food Lounge with a step-and-repeat on the wall, hookahs (during COVID!), fluorescent yellow paint rivaling the bright fluorescent lighting, disco lights flashing. This place is a tragedy. Looks like everyone got the chicken Caesar salad. Sammy doesn’t realize Amber is getting this drink because “she’s a celebrity” not because some dude is trying to steal her away.

Brittany is going to “catch” a B&E charge. 

Our favorite (Lebanese, Halal) pizza place is also a hookah bar.  It's the only way you can smoke indoors in our city.

Shawn and Daonte are both a little special.  I honestly can't tell if she's just blatantly sucking him dry of money or if she's a little special too.

Prison cake looked foul.  I don't quite get how Lisa's mad about the arrangements *she* made, but it does seem like he's still treating her like a prostitute.  That pastor was right about a rotten foundation for their relationship.

Brittany's friend should catch a charge.  She never went inside, but she did remove the screen, so I don't know if that would qualify for B&E.  I'm not a lawyer.  I'm betting he could get a restraining order at this point, though, which would lead to charges if she violated.  This whole storyline seems weak to me, and it looks like he's just getting high with the rehab people.

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10 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

 

She's a terrific lady and I hope Daonte takes her advice.  She's had to suffer through a few of these crazy relationships already.  Who knew Nicolle Jr would be the prize?

Nicolle Jr., may she rest in peace. <Crosses self and says a little prayer as Nicolle Jr. heads off to Valhalla, hopefully with clean holes.>

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1 hour ago, anoninrva said:

This whole storyline seems weak to me,

Yeah, remember when Marcellino's description chyron said he was a 'writer'? Even though he's now a 'poker player', my guess is he's the one who came up with this ill-conceived plot. I bet he worships Tarantino, and this is his take on Reservoir Dogs (or something).

Of course Daonte the Dummy has now decided Nicole needs him to protect her from Tia. This would be like expecting a bunny to defend one raptor from another. They'll have you eviscerated and be chomping your liver while you watch, fool.

Sorry to see Amber is risking her rehabilitation by her inexplicable attachment to ugly, rage-a-holic Sammy. And it would be nice if Puppy made an appearance while sober, which so far she hasn't. 

Stan needs to give old Flapjack Scott a call to find out how to jettison a live-in hooker. I did love the way the WeTV camera people lovingly documented every dusty tchotchke lined up on his kitchen window sills and cabinet tops.

In general, too many shots of these people in their underwear, and I missed Indian John and Krusty 😢

 

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5 minutes ago, sempervivum said:

Stan needs to give old Flapjack Scott a call to find out how to jettison a live-in hooker. I did love the way the WeTV camera people lovingly documented every dusty tchotchke lined up on his kitchen window sills and cabinet tops.

Stan gets enraged when Lisa flips out.  He falls for her gaslighting trap every damn time.  Flappie, however, was unflappable when Lindsey would throw a fit.  Of course, this enraged her more.  Ah, Flappie, sitting in his lawn chair enjoying a smoke while she raged against his belongings. Good times. 

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4 hours ago, JenE4 said:

What is the deal with this Star Food Lounge with a step-and-repeat on the wall, hookahs (during COVID!), fluorescent yellow paint rivaling the bright fluorescent lighting, disco lights flashing. This place is a tragedy. Looks like everyone got the chicken Caesar salad. Sammy doesn’t realize Amber is getting this drink because “she’s a celebrity” not because some dude is trying to steal her away. 

I had the same thoughts about the restaurant.  Also, it made me laugh when Amber and Puppy had to take a break from puffing on a hookah to smoke a cigarette!  

 

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This show absolutely delights me.  Who is stupider, Shawn or Daonte?  Who is more dangerous, Sammy or ---?  Nobody.  Amber, get far far away from Sammy.  He might kill you.  Lacey you whore--although Chane is clearly up to *something* imo (I never ever heard of a healthy young man turning down sex with a woman who apparently appeals to him physically)--she wants Chon and I bet she ends up with Chon but please don't be such a whore.  Maybe Chane does have something to hide, but you do, too.

Amber is smart and industrious imo but I really do fear for her.

And at least dumbass Daonte has stopped talking about his girlfriend who died because he broke up with her?  didn't return her calls?  wouldn't pay for new tits?

Brittany at some point is going to have to let the (understandable) rage go and consult a lawyer about what she can reasonably expect to get back from John; do that; cut her losses and move on.

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8 hours ago, JenE4 said:

 

What is the deal with this Star Food Lounge with a step-and-repeat on the wall, hookahs (during COVID!), fluorescent yellow paint rivaling the bright fluorescent lighting, disco lights flashing. This place is a tragedy. Looks like everyone got the chicken Caesar salad. Sammy doesn’t realize Amber is getting this drink because “she’s a celebrity” not because some dude is trying to steal her away.

 

Amber was "sent a drink" by a Sharp intern, or I miss my guess. Who sends one person in a party of four, obviously two couples, a drink? Besides a cheapskate, or an idiot?

6 hours ago, anoninrva said:

Prison cake looked foul.  I don't quite get how Lisa's mad about the arrangements *she* made, but it does seem like he's still treating her like a prostitute.  That pastor was right about a rotten foundation for their relationship.

You'd think that once these dumbasses were out they'd be chuffed to be free of prison food. Why are they so hot to recreate it?

 

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4 hours ago, sempervivum said:

Of course Daonte the Dummy has now decided Nicole needs him to protect her from Tia. This would be like expecting a bunny to defend one raptor from another. They'll have you eviscerated and be chomping your liver while you watch, fool.

Nicole won the lottery with that nincompoop Daonte. She's playing him like a trout. He'll be well and truly reeled in before you can say "boob job".

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1 hour ago, Pepper Mostly said:

You'd think that once these dumbasses were out they'd be chuffed to be free of prison food. Why are they so hot to recreate it?

I want to know where they got that whole package of cookies.

"Chuffed?""  Somebody's been watching Drew Pritchard.

 

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6 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Amber was "sent a drink" by a Sharp intern, or I miss my guess. Who sends one person in a party of four, obviously two couples, a drink? Besides a cheapskate, or an idiot?

You'd think that once these dumbasses were out they'd be chuffed to be free of prison food. Why are they so hot to recreate it?

 

I agree that the prison recipes look nasty, despite Lisa pronouncing them "gourmet." However, with all the LOL fandom and general parolees out there,someone from the show needs to put together a Prison Food Cookbook, complete with anecdotes and witticisms. I can't seem to come up with a cute title...any ideas?

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8 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I agree that the prison recipes look nasty, despite Lisa pronouncing them "gourmet." However, with all the LOL fandom and general parolees out there,someone from the show needs to put together a Prison Food Cookbook, complete with anecdotes and witticisms. I can't seem to come up with a cute title...any ideas?

Big House Haute Cuisine

From Up the River To Your Table

Consumed by Cons

Solitary Confinement Cooking for the Single Person

Jailhouse Crock

Shanked Steak

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18 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I agree that the prison recipes look nasty, despite Lisa pronouncing them "gourmet." However, with all the LOL fandom and general parolees out there,someone from the show needs to put together a Prison Food Cookbook, complete with anecdotes and witticisms. I can't seem to come up with a cute title...any ideas?

This book was prominently featured in a bookstore I was in yesterday.

Prison Ramen: Recipes and Stories from Behind Bars https://www.amazon.com/dp/0761185526/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_DCVS6QEHTWCJQ3Y4HA2G

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I seriously had to fast forward through the prison "cake" that Lisa was making. I have an iron stomach and I love me some cake but......... that was FOUL. 

Perhaps a prison dessert cookbook could be called: "Desserts for All CELL-abrations"

More cookbook ideas: "Cooking 101 for Dummies Bunkies" or "The Creative Commisary" 

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8 minutes ago, hookedontv said:

I seriously had to fast forward through the prison "cake" that Lisa was making. I have an iron stomach and I love me some cake but......... that was FOUL. 

Perhaps a prison dessert cookbook could be called: "Desserts for All CELL-abrations"

More cookbook ideas: "Cooking 101 for Dummies Bunkies" or "The Creative Commisary" 

I don't really get it. The 'nilla wafers and snickers bar would be tasty all by themselves. I guess if you really want cake...

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1 minute ago, Elizzikra said:

I don't really get it. The 'nilla wafers and snickers bar would be tasty all by themselves. I guess if you really want cake...

Right?

At least no one's gotten out and continued to make some sort of moonshine with fermented/old fruit or mixed up some concoction in the toilet....  Yet.

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I have worked for an accountant in my long and storied career, and it might surprise you to know how many old folks, once they've paid off their mortgages, have a net worth of a million dollars or more.  I look at Stan in his sad little house and think about his bragging that he is a millionaire and smile.  Old people who have paid off their mortgages and their car loans, who have no more college tuition or other expense of children, especially old people who benefited from 401K plans or other saving plans where employers matched employee contributions, can easily rack up a net worth of a million dollars or more, and I guess that technically makes them millionaires.  I suspect this is the kind of millionaire Stan is, as opposed to the kind of millionaire who, in addition to all that stuff, has a million dollars in liquid assets and could write a big check without flinching.

Stan has oversold himself to What's-Her-Name, and now he is suffering for it.  Old folks who brag that they are millionaires do not necessarily have a million dollars to spend on hair weaves.

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especially old people who benefited from 401K plans or other saving plans where employers matched employee contributions,

I think someone verified that Stan retired from state government and has that now rarest of things... a defined benefit pension plan. He get's probably 85 percent of his highest salary for the rest of his life, likely adjusted for inflation. His house is probably paid off, which is usually any person's single largest expense. So I believe he is a paper millionaire but I don't think he has the stacks of readily available cash that Lisa thinks he has... I also think, Lisa aside, that Stan is tight with a buck and it pains him to spend a dime, especially when he perceives he's not getting his end of the bargain.

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1 hour ago, Elizzikra said:

I think someone verified that Stan retired from state government and has that now rarest of things... a defined benefit pension plan. He get's probably 85 percent of his highest salary for the rest of his life, likely adjusted for inflation. His house is probably paid off, which is usually any person's single largest expense. So I believe he is a paper millionaire but I don't think he has the stacks of readily available cash that Lisa thinks he has... I also think, Lisa aside, that Stan is tight with a buck and it pains him to spend a dime, especially when he perceives he's not getting his end of the bargain.

He would have inherited anything his wife left upon her death, which might have included a retirement fund. Someone in Stan’s situation could live very comfortably on $50-60K/year, especially in the Midwest. Add a second person into the mix (like Lisa) and things aren’t quite so rosy.

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12 hours ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

He would have inherited anything his wife left upon her death, which might have included a retirement fund. Someone in Stan’s situation could live very comfortably on $50-60K/year, especially in the Midwest. Add a second person into the mix (like Lisa) and things aren’t quite so rosy.

And he's receiving Social Security, all of which means he isn't having to touch his capital (not a euphemism).  Between SS and pension a single person who doesn't live in an expensive location could live very comfortably indeed.  Not only is Lisa a second person; she is a second person who believes she is married to a millionaire and doesn't understand why he is being such a tightwad when she wants to spend a thousand or so on clothing.  If she were to marry him and of course outlive him, and if his will doesn't contain the dreaded "Fluffy Clause" which leaves the bulk of the estate to the care of his cat, she would inherit a big wad of cash.  I doubt that she can bear to be touched by him for that long,

The smart move for Stan imo (if he is so hot for Lisa) would be to marry Lisa and then dip into his savings to give her what she wants and spend it all before he dies, leaving his widow with zip.

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14 hours ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

He would have inherited anything his wife left upon her death, which might have included a retirement fund. Someone in Stan’s situation could live very comfortably on $50-60K/year, especially in the Midwest. Add a second person into the mix (like Lisa) and things aren’t quite so rosy.

Maybe although if she was a SAHM, she might not have had much in the way of financial assets to leave behind. Either way, it’s definitely the case that Lisa doesn’t strengthen Stan’s financial position…

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On 10/9/2021 at 6:23 AM, anoninrva said:

Our favorite (Lebanese, Halal) pizza place is also a hookah bar.  It's the only way you can smoke indoors in our city.

Shawn and Daonte are both a little special.  I honestly can't tell if she's just blatantly sucking him dry of money or if she's a little special too.

Prison cake looked foul.  I don't quite get how Lisa's mad about the arrangements *she* made, but it does seem like he's still treating her like a prostitute.  That pastor was right about a rotten foundation for their relationship.

Lisa doesn't want to be "paid for sex" she wants to be in a "relationship" and as best as I can divine, her definition of a relationship is that she gets all the financial benefits of being an escort and none of the bothersome responsibilities of sleeping with an old man.  

Its just the laziness of the grift.  All the benefits, none of the work.  

She can get a job anytime and pay her own car note and insurance. 

Either way, she has to work for that monthly car note.  

Prison cake looks absolutely disgusting, as do those awful extensions.  I hate to say it, but if Stan loosened his pocketbook a little or was willing to go overseas, he could do better.  

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On 10/9/2021 at 11:42 AM, Mothra said:

Brittany at some point is going to have to let the (understandable) rage go and consult a lawyer about what she can reasonably expect to get back from John; do that; cut her losses and move on.

I still think its possible...maybe probable that Brittney and Canaan embezzled those donations. 

How better to hide her own financial shenanigans than to blame a guy who has never once been on camera to defend himself?  We have never heard Robert's side of the story, only Brittney and her "friend/business partner" characterizing him as a thief and drug addict.  

Her story doesn't make any sense to me, they handed a guy 80k in cash because they couldn't be on the account because this is Nevada.  Nevermind that that doesn't sound particularly true, people set up trusts and LLCs all the time and that entity can have an account.  OR, you can have your account in another state.  Why did the money have to stay in Nevada or come from Nevada?  None of this makes sense.  

I'd be extremely interested to see the details of any lawsuit Brittney files against Robert, and any counterclaims of affirmative defenses he has against her.  I don't think her hands are clean.  

 

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34 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Lisa doesn't want to be "paid for sex" she wants to be in a "relationship" and as best as I can divine, her definition of a relationship is that she gets all the financial benefits of being an escort and none of the bothersome responsibilities of sleeping with an old man.  

Its just the laziness of the grift.  All the benefits, none of the work.  

She can get a job anytime and pay her own car note and insurance. 

Either way, she has to work for that monthly car note.  

Prison cake looks absolutely disgusting, as do those awful extensions.  I hate to say it, but if Stan loosened his pocketbook a little or was willing to go overseas, he could do better.  

I guess that's the part that's hard for me to get.  He talks as if he does not see their relationship as transactional, even if his texts question that narrative.  Meanwhile, she is acting very much as if she sees their relationship as a flow of transactions to her.

I don't know how easily a felon can get a well-paying job.  That seems to be a theme with this show.

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1 minute ago, anoninrva said:

I guess that's the part that's hard for me to get.  He talks as if he does not see their relationship as transactional, even if his texts question that narrative.  Meanwhile, she is acting very much as if she sees their relationship as a flow of transactions to her.

I don't know how easily a felon can get a well-paying job.  That seems to be a theme with this show.

He is the classic john who doesn't want to admit he is a john.  

He is just "helping" a girl with rent and "tuition" - I think those are the niceties used on sugardaddy sites so the guy doesn't have to admit that he has to pay for sex.  

If he would just admit that their relationship is transactional, Lisa wouldn't have a leg to stand on.  Because right now her only argument is that as her "man" Stan should be buying her things, but not expecting sex.  If Stan was just like "yeah, I want to pay you for sex but I also like having you around" Lisa really wouldn't have any moral high ground real or fictional.  

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On 10/9/2021 at 6:50 AM, JenE4 said:

What is the deal with this Star Food Lounge with a step-and-repeat on the wall, hookahs (during COVID!), fluorescent yellow paint rivaling the bright fluorescent lighting, disco lights flashing. This place is a tragedy.

Yeah all the ambience of a K-Mart or 7-11.  Maybe they don’t trust their clientele and need to be able to see what they’re up to.

On 10/9/2021 at 10:45 AM, sempervivum said:

bet he worships Tarantino, and this is his take on Reservoir Dogs (or something).

He actually said Tarantino couldn’t write this.  A boring plot about repossessing stained and burned used furniture.  He wouldn’t not couldn’t.

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On 10/9/2021 at 10:45 AM, sempervivum said:

Sorry to see Amber is risking her rehabilitation by her inexplicable attachment to ugly, rage-a-holic Sammy.

Sammy can always get a job as an Abraham Lincoln impersonator.  

On 10/9/2021 at 10:45 AM, sempervivum said:

In general, too many shots of these people in their underwear

Someone should tell Stan he is about three decades too old for snug briefs.

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6 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

Maybe although if she was a SAHM, she might not have had much in the way of financial assets to leave behind. Either way, it’s definitely the case that Lisa doesn’t strengthen Stan’s financial position…

I think she was a nurse and he met her at the state nursing home he managed.

4 hours ago, RealReality said:

Its just the laziness of the grift.  All the benefits, none of the work.  

How long can milking Stan’s prostate take?  She can even watch her stories while she does it.  He’s in a straitjacket after all.

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18 hours ago, Mothra said:

The smart move for Stan imo (if he is so hot for Lisa) would be to marry Lisa and then dip into his savings to give her what she wants and spend it all before he dies, leaving his widow with zip.

The minute she had a ring on her finger she'd be at him to change his will. And once he does? Guaranteed a tragic fall down the stairs or mysterious prescription drug overdose. 

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18 hours ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

Stan’s daughter(s) better hope like hell that Stan has his assets in an irrevocable trust. And, if he does, Lisa won’t be hitting the jackpot any time soon.

I think the key to Stan's wealth is whoever inherits his 401K and the house.  That is how he is a millionaire.  He is not cash rich.  As long as he doesn't change the 401K post-death distribution or his will (beyond the third he already claimed he is leaving Lisa), his kids are getting something. 

Since Lisa comes from a background in which no one has ever had either of those things, she doesn't understand how these types of finances work.  Heck, I'm a millionaire on paper, but I'm still not shelling over major cash to someone I'm "dating". 

16 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Sammy can always get a job as an Abraham Lincoln impersonator.  

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And now I can't unsee it.  Get that man a dark coat and a stovepipe hat!

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Does he have a 401(k)? A lot of times, when people had pensions, they didn't also have a 401(k). The pension pays you until you die and then, depending on how it's structured, it either ends or it pays out to a partner for the remainder of his/her life, then ends. 

The house, if it's paid off and there are no liens against it, would be a nice inheritance for someone, though...

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On 10/12/2021 at 5:55 PM, MrBuhBye said:

I think she was a nurse and he met her at the state nursing home he managed.

How long can milking Stan’s prostate take?  She can even watch her stories while she does it.  He’s in a straitjacket after all.

Every single time they talk about milking the prostate, I immediately imagine someone milking a cow.  I know its not the same, its just what I think of.  LOL.  

But yes, Lisa is truly lazy, like does he need it milked multiple times a day?

I wonder how many days of "lovin'" Stan needs to pay for her to get rid of those awful extensions?

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16 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

The minute she had a ring on her finger she'd be at him to change his will. And once he does? Guaranteed a tragic fall down the stairs or mysterious prescription drug overdose. 

Do you watch Dateline too?  Because this is almost the first thing I thought of.  

Lisa will mysteriously be "at church" when it happens.  Personally, I think she is going to go for some auto-erotic asphyxiation gone wrong when he was in the straitjacket and couldn't get out.  

What better way to make sure the family quickly covers it up out of shame!  

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19 hours ago, RealReality said:

What better way to make sure the family quickly covers it up out of shame!  

That ship has already sailed. Can you imagine how you’d feel if your widowed father showed up on a reality show with his jailhouse honey who talks about how she milks his prostate while he’s hanging from the rafters in the cellar while wearing a straitjacket? The first line of Stan’s obituary will undoubtedly include a reference to his appearance on LAL.

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On 10/11/2021 at 10:09 PM, Mothra said:

 

On 10/11/2021 at 10:09 PM, Mothra said:

Old folks who brag that they are millionaires do not necessarily have a million dollars to spend on hair weaves.

Or decent wigs, apparently. 

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