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I’m really liking this show so far. Bummer that Sendhil’s character was killed off so early in the show but I’m enjoying the flashbacks and Devi struggling with mourning him. 

Devi being so weird about Paxton is very cringeworthy but I guess that’s the point. He seems like a nice guy but I think she has better chemistry with Ben. I’m also liking Kamala a lot and hope she doesn’t go through with the arranged marriage.

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On 4/30/2020 at 11:14 AM, peachmangosteen said:

I liked that she also read some fan fic where Jughead kissed Harry Potter lol.

Yup that was my favorite part. 

On 4/28/2020 at 1:37 AM, twoods said:

He seems like a nice guy but I think she has better chemistry with Ben.

I don't. Of course that may be my bias against the old tired "we bicker and fight because we secretly like each other" trope. Please see my rant in the Trope thread, lol

Personally I'm not shipping Devi with either Paxton (she doesn't really know him. He's nothing more than a fantasy) or Ben (people can just dislike each other without secretly being into each other) because as her therapist rightly pointed out, I think what Devi needs is to deal with her grief over the death of her father and stop trying to run/hide from it by using this obsession with getting laid and being popular. 

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On 5/2/2020 at 1:41 AM, truthaboutluv said:

Yup that was my favorite part. 

I don't. Of course that may be my bias against the old tired "we bicker and fight because we secretly like each other" trope. Please see my rant in the Trope thread, lol

Personally I'm not shipping Devi with either Paxton (she doesn't really know him. He's nothing more than a fantasy) or Ben (people can just dislike each other without secretly being into each other) because as her therapist rightly pointed out, I think what Devi needs is to deal with her grief over the death of her father and stop trying to run/hide from it by using this obsession with getting laid and being popular. 

Yeah, I agree with you, but it would be super unrealistic for a teenage girl to give up on guys altogether for the sake of her own well-being.  She's not mature enough, and her hormones are too strong haha. 

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1 minute ago, Zima said:

Yeah, I agree with you, but it would be super unrealistic for a teenage girl to give up on guys altogether for the sake of her own well-being.  She's not mature enough, and her hormones are too strong haha. 

I don't think she needs to give up on guys entirely but Devi came into the school year gung ho with this obsessive plan to be popular and get with Paxton. And her single minded focus on that is what led to a lot of the craziness that ensued and as the therapist said, she was using that obsessive plan/need to be popular that school year and have sex as a shield from dealing with her grief.

It's almost like she was determined to show how "fine" she was and "fine" teenage girls have sex and go to popular parties and get drunk and do stupid things. So that's what she was going to do because she was fine dammit. Totally over her dad dropping dead at her high school recital. 

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1 minute ago, truthaboutluv said:

I don't think she needs to give up on guys entirely but Devi came into the school year gung ho with this obsessive plan to be popular and get with Paxton. And her single minded focus on that is what led to a lot of the craziness that ensued and as the therapist said, she was using that obsessive plan/need to be popular that school year and have sex as a shield from dealing with her grief.

It's almost like she was determined to show how "fine" she was and "fine" teenage girls have sex and go to popular parties and get drunk and do stupid things. So that's what she was going to do because she was fine dammit. Totally over her dad dropping dead at her high school recital. 

Totally! But until she can admit that she's not over her dad's death and come to terms with her grief, she'll continue to pretend that she's "fine". 

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On 4/30/2020 at 11:14 AM, peachmangosteen said:

I liked that she also read some fan fic where Jughead kissed Harry Potter lol.

That was the best part because you know that fanfic probably exists somewhere. Fanfic is like porn. Any scenario you can think of has probably been written. I've also somehow managed to watch every episode of Riverdale so the way they dragged the show was hilarious. It's also funny because that show is so sexed up (PG-13 sexed up) while Devi is the frustrated virgin.

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Even after so many years of watching Riverdale, I am basically Kamala when I watch. "Now its a murder mystery? What is this show?" "Theses teenagers parents allow them to take showers together in their own homes?" 

On the one hand, Devi got a bit mauled by a coyote, but on the other hand, she got to be taken to the hospital by Paxton, he tagged her on his Instagram, AND people at school have started to notice her, so Devi is counting all of this as a win. 

The history teacher who is desperately trying to be cool and down with the kids and super woke, but is actually just making things awkward, is cracking me up. 

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1 hour ago, tennisgurl said:

The history teacher who is desperately trying to be cool and down with the kids and super woke, but is actually just making things awkward, is cracking me up.

I love him; there's always that teacher. When I was in high school, it was an English teacher who insisted everyone call him Rocky. He wasn't outright mocked, but everyone rolled their eyes behind his back. 

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4 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

On the one hand, Devi got a bit mauled by a coyote, but on the other hand, she got to be taken to the hospital by Paxton, he tagged her on his Instagram, AND people at school have started to notice her, so Devi is counting all of this as a win. 

Long-ago teenage me (as awkward and unpopular as Devi, but shy and prudish) would have definitely counted that as a win. Even if they don't have a romantic or sexual relationship, this popular and hot guy didn't hesitate to take care of her (in front of everybody) when she was hurt and stayed with her at the hospital until her mother chased him away. (And her mother's rant was hilarious, even though it would be terrible if she said this in real life. I think Devi's mother is getting to be my favorite character, but that's probably because I was also an overprotective mom when my daughter was young.)

Within the show it was predictable that the second coyote would attack (though they don't often do so in real life), but I was really hoping it would approach her in a friendly way--I bet that would have also impressed everyone. 

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On 5/2/2020 at 1:41 AM, truthaboutluv said:

I don't. Of course that may be my bias against the old tired "we bicker and fight because we secretly like each other" trope. Please see my rant in the Trope thread, lol

In this case though, Ben doesn't like Devi because he's basically in the same boat as she.

Ben mentioned that in his relationship "he stimulates her intellectually while her hottness makes him popular."  Sounds like both of them are using each other.  Both Ben and Devi want to be popular so much that they'll twist themselves into pretzels for it.

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4 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

In this case though, Ben doesn't like Devi because he's basically in the same boat as she.

Yes, I'm aware at the moment Ben wasn't aware he liked Devi. But I was commenting more so on the two characters bicker and seemingly hate each other but eventually something will happen that shows them they actually secretly like each other.

Seriously, that is one of the most overused and tired tropes, especially shows/books/movies that involve teen/young characters. That's what my comment was referring to. The fact that many people have said that within 10 minutes of the first episode, they knew Devi and Ben would eventually get together, speaks to exactly my point . It's predictable. And it's predictable because it's one of the most overused cliches. 

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31 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

It's predictable. And it's predictable because it's one of the most overused cliches.

True.  But I also think there is a lot of truth to it.  If you're that passionate about your hate for someone,(unless that person assaulted you or something like that) that person is kicking up a lot of issues in you. 

I think the deal with Devi and Ben is they're probably being pushed to be "the best in everything" by their families and both see the other as competition.

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I could totally relate to Devi in the first scene. My parents always had all kinds of chores for me (including yardwork) which I haaaaaated. And unlike Devi, I was not an only child but somehow I was the only one who ever ended up with all that yardwork to do.

A+ for the cute tiktok dance!

The history teacher who wants to be cool just kills me. "What if Anne Frank had an iphone?"

Haha, Fabiola's nail art suggestions of computers or chickens cracked me up. And Gears Brosnan! I feel bad that she doesn't feel comfortable with her sexuality yet, but hopefully she will come to terms with it soon.

Kamala's reaction to Riverdale was hilarious. And she was reading Jughead/Harry Potter fan fic - ha!

I hope being with Cheesecake Factory guy makes her happy and eventually gives her the courage to tell her family that she doesn't want to marry the rando they picked out for her.

I love that Devi is always asking her therapist totally inappropriate questions like if she's bangable, if she'll buy her a thong with "DO ME" in rhinestones, or if she has any alcohol she can take to a party.

It suuuuuucks being the only competent one in a group project. That's why I'm usually like Ben - I'd rather just do it myself and get it over with instead of dealing with people like Paxton and Trent having the worst contributions. Heh, but in Ben's group, Eleanor did have a perfectly legitimate concern about his app giving people the exact location to pick up Jewish people during WW2.

I never realized that getting a new girlfriend was as easy as finding someone who wants to get a bunch of free samples at Yogurtland. Thanks for the tip, Alex Gomez!

I agree that Devi's quest for popularity and sex is an attempt to sublimate her grief, but at the same time most kids who are the bottom of the social pool start each school year thinking that they can somehow claw their way up a little bit and that will somehow make their lives better so I find it realistic that someone as organized and goal oriented as Devi would be doing some of this stuff even if her dad hadn't died. And having everyone in class applaud your new nickname of coyote girl is definitely an upgrade from being vaguely known for being in a wheelchair or your dad dying.

Ben is doing the classic "I'm in a shitty position so I'm going to pick on anyone who is at my level or lower" thing to make himself feel better. He acts like he fits in but he knows that his girlfriend is the only reason that he is tolerated by some of his classmates. If not for Shira, he'd just be another annoying know it all.

It's been three episodes and her mom still hasn't peeked inside the notebook that says, "I'M GONNA HAVE SEX WITH PAXTON!" on the first page so I'm still waiting for that shoe to drop.

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I find it interesting that Fabiola is the best dancer of the three in the TikTok.   Eleanor is trying to be fierce or gangster.  Devi is sweet.   But it’s Fabiola who exhibits perfect choreography and control.   Her head never loses its position on the pivot.  The performance seems as precise as the character, but it also seems too smooth.  Yes, I’ve watched it 100+ times.  Best 15 seconds of TV in a while.
 

Devi’s mom is my favorite character.   “Tell me more, Dr. HPV Infection.”

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