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4 hours ago, Js Nana said:

I think CF looks much striking as a brunette; blond hair seems to wash her out.

I always thought Cait Fairbanks stood out with the dark hair and porcelain skin. When I first saw her today with the yellow blonde hair I thought it washed her out but by the end it didn’t bother me as much. I guess TPTB were like, since we don’t have Melissa Ordway on contract maybe this will fool the viewers. LOL!!!!

Phyllis is a mess and I need her off my screen. Sharon was fine (big lips and all) but I don’t know what’s worse. Their captivity or their impending aftermath?!

I didn’t care for the Victor and Michael scenes because I couldn’t understand a word Eric Braden said. LOL!! He was slouching in the chair with his head down to his chest. I really should have put my cc on. Anyway, I think he’s knows Damon (is that his name?) and, the other guy. Anyway, he put Michael on the case. CLB (and, Tracey Bregman) deserve so much better than this.

I fast forwarded through all of the Billy and Sally scenes so I can’t review that. 

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15 hours ago, ByaNose said:

I didn’t care for the Victor and Michael scenes because I couldn’t understand a word Eric Braden said.

I didn't, either. [that's why I have CC on permanently]  But I like the actor who plays Michael.  It's a shame the character has been demoted from DA, competent lawyer, attentive husband to Lauren and the only character with a sense of humor to being Viktor's henchman/gofer.  He gets ordered around by the old dementiabag to find out everything that said dementiabag could probably find on his phone all by himself.  And! he gets to refer to Viktor as a "better father" than his own.  Man, you can't buy that kind of loyalty, can you? I'm surprised Vik hasn't made Michael a CEO by now.

Ok. If Alexander Aristotle Dumas is really after NE, how big of a coincidence is the Winters Have a New Brother storyline?  Could Amy really be in cahoots with Ari and they cooked this up to befuddle Viktor and steal his company?  They would have, of course, to rely on Viktor wanting to 'help' the Winters after the hatchet job he did on Lily.  Since they have history that assumes Viktor has met Dumas in person (which we have never heard about before this) I don't think it is Tucker.  But Viktor seems a little too concerned about Dumas for it to only be about the Winter's welfare or some ancient dealings they had.

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After reading the latest comments re ... the Victor/Billly/new Winters adjacent family. What will happen re Victor knowing whoever the made-up name person who we have not yet seen could be. I know...I just basically typed gibberish. But honestly? Do any of us actually care? At all?  

What I would love to see is Jill back. I know that Jess Walton does not want to come back for any length of time. So - just my opinion - Show needs to recast Jill. Colleen Z would have been perfect had she not been brought on as a buffoon/lunatic. But there must be a large pool of soap opera vets who would be excellent; and ready. Anything to drive some life into the disaster of a storyline/soap opera we are watching.

And Sharon/Phyllis. I remember most of the terrible things Phyllis has done to Sharon. But what has Sharon done that could possibly be as egregious?

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19 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Look Billy, you better not be trying to make Sally feel insecure about Phyllis. Sally is a showcase; Phyllis is a runner-up prize. 

Phyllis is old enough to be Sally's mother; 'Billy' was only 3 when 'Daniel' was born.  Y&R should change its name to Middle-aged and Ready-for-a-nap, especially with the boring dialog. 

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I've also wondered if Amy could be in on it since she started the whole mystery brother SL.  I checked to see if her father Frank Lewis overlapped with Victor and he did (1982-1985), so I wondered if she was seeking retribution for something.  Frank was the GC Police Commissioner & Paul’s father’s boss. Frank was critically wounded while on duty and in a coma; he came out of it only to have a heart attack and slip back into it. After Frank had recovered, Paul also worked for the GCPD. In 1985, Frank moved to San Diego. He later suffered a stroke.  But I cannot remember if Frank's injury had anything to do with Victor Newman.

The Dumas name attached to the Monte Cristo company name seemed like a set-up from the beginning. The Count of Monte Cristo, by Alexandre Dumas père, tells the story of an unjustly incarcerated man who escapes to find revenge. Victor is probably responsible for several people being unjustly incarcerated.  Who could it be? I'd assumed that the ship that Victor had blown up when trying to kill Jackabbott was Peruvian, but perhaps it was flying under a Greek flag, like 'Aristotle'.

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I dunno,I kind of liked Phyllis and Sharon at the bar, deciding to take ‘baby steps’ to move forward. I’m not convinced it will last but at this point I’ll take it. There’s only so much of the back and forth, wash, rinse, repeat that I can stand over the years and I reached that limit 20 years ago.

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Billy knows all about Aristotle Dumas, enough to be sending Dumas' call to voicemail, anyway. But Sally's not in the dark either, due to her L.A. history with the Forresters and Spencers. Hmm.

Victor again using Neil's name in vain to manipulate Lily. Grrr.

OMG, Sharon! Phyllis is falling apart right in front of you. You both need to talk this stuff out with a therapist who has the objectivity you can't have.

Wait a minute, didn't Michael tell Victor yesterday that per his background investigation, Dumas wasn't interested in Winters Inc.? Today Victor was stoking Lily's fears about Dumas when he knows better. This guy.

Lol, Sharon was way offended at the thought Christine had perhaps been a bigger longtime enemy to Phyllis than Sharon.

Sharon and Phyllis moved from the coffeehouse, to the overlook park, and then to Society, only to keep saying the same things over and over. Good grief.

But Lily, Victor can't be trusted either! Apparently for you, favor goes to the devil you know versus the one you just met. And now you've hooked Devon in on the Dumas worry too. Giiirrrlll.

Okay, so Billy is indeed in cahoots with Dumas. Kinda shady, no? At least Sally won't be shocked when she eventually finds out Billy lied to her face.

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9 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

 

Fashion Award goes to Sally and her stunning kimono.  Great color for her and it didn't look cheesy.  Colors wouldn't work for me, but on her it looked stunning.

Is Sharon ever going to take that striped sweater off or is she going to wear it til Easter? Filthus continuous to bug. Haven't a clue who Crisco in the can is, unless he's Tucker.

Honestly, I think the friendship will snap over something innocuous that will Ffi freaks  out over something.

{tapping foot}  I'm really getting bored. 

Sally, you can do much better. 

That's all I got.

 

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What it boils down to is that Manic Phyllis🕷️’s fuel is hate. It’s her addiction. She is a hateaholic.  Even Manic Phyllis🕷️’s “love” for her children is a means to an end.  

Manic Phyllis🕷️ more than Sharon is finding it hard to come to a reconciliation but the whole process was boring and predictable 🤢

If Billy👃was Pinocchio he wouldn’t be able to kiss Sally because his nose would bump up against her forehead.  Now we know that Aristotle Dumas and Billy👃are plotting against Victor. What is Sally going to do when she uncovers Billy👃’s lies. 

Another WTF!  Amy just had one treatment and she’s already coming back to GC.  I guess Amy is cured.  
 

🥁Tara! Tara! Tara!🥁

 

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10 hours ago, Denize said:

The Dumas name attached to the Monte Cristo company

So he's a toasted sandwich tycoon?*

I'm not gonna lie, I didn't hate the Sharon-Syph scenes. Dare I say, it made Syph a lot less exhausting to watch. But then Mister William Nostrildominico bogged my high with his totally lame ass lame "I've got the quid...if you've got the quo" bullshit. I just can't with him anymore. I.Just.Cant.

*"There I was, there I was, there I was, finding myself with a warehouse full of surplus eggs, ham, gruyere wheels, white French batards, and barrels of vegetable oil...and the rest is, how you say, histoire. Et voila!"

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So when Sally was decorating Billy Boy's joint . . . uh, she couldn't shove in a table & chairs set too?  They gotta stuff their faces with take-out/delivery junk like college kids in a dorm?  Oh yeah, that Billy Boy knows how to treat the ladies!

Oh Sally, Sally, Sally --- you showed us, hun, that you are intelligent -- particularly in the way you easily picked thru Billy Boy's bucket of lies.  But Sally, sweetie, you really do have the absolute worst taste in men!

The Red Beast without hate?  Not possible!  She still hates with a seething hatred (typical for The Red Beast) The Bug & of course, Diane.  And let's face it, she'll eventually go back to the same ole hate for Sharon . . . just cuz that's who she is.

I'm completely confused by the sloppy writing on Dumas.  So he's backing Damian.  OK, but Amy started all this mess of a storyline with her being sick, and telling Natey that Damian is his brother.  So is Dumas going after Winters, or does he wanna pick a fight with Vic?  What the heck is going on here?

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Wow, I'm really bummed that they are going to keep FAKE-NOT-AMY. 

SC's acting is so bad she makes me wish Syph would put an octopus in her bed.

I've seen Sally have heat with her co-stars bu there is not even a flicker from a dying ember's worth between her and Billy. Sending Sally back to LA to revive her fashion house would benefit both Y&R and B&B. And I hate to hear Billy besmirch Jill's name. Every time he says, my mom, it it sounds like an insult. To all of humanity.

And BTW, Happy Birthday, Y&R!

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Color me impressed, Traci!  Well, not really.  Ya didn’t have to be clunked on the noggin, that something sinister is up with this character who may or may not be Alan.  But the clues had to be obvious enough for a five year old to figure out?  Oh Traci, you poor thing.  Desperation leads ya to awful places, eh, hun?  I don’t expect Jackie to be of much help . . .

Was it noticed already that Hayley Erwin (Claire) is in the opening credits?  Is this new?  Hmmm, and this means?

What the heck was going on with Nikki’s hair today?  The color & style were really ick.  Odd strips of brass on the ends were showing thru in back — as if some colorist made a really bad boo-boo.  And it looked as if one of the stylists dipped her head in glue. Yech.

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Watching Kyle feed Cleve was vomitous. I seriously almost lost my lunch, quite literally!

Yes Tracy, it IS possible. Because this show never allows plus sized women a happy ever after, and sadly you should know that after all these years. It allows skinny women to sleep around with the entire city, but a plus sized woman in a healthy relationship? Heaven forbid! Josh G disgusts me.

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Glory be to the soap opera saints, Summer finally changed out of her blue slip dress. But Sharon in a dark velvet jacket? Kind of the wrong season for such heavy fabric, even in the Upper Midwest.

Kyle is such a sleezeball. Only he could expect the woman he's boinking to be grateful for being allowed to have some drawer space in his hotel room. Luckily for him Claire doesn't really know better.

Phyllis, you're a role model?? HA HA HA HA HA!!! Maybe for unrepentant psychos who need fresh ideas on how to be nucking futz.

Look at those two nepo babies snickering about playing hooky from their nepo baby jobs. Ehhh.

Jill betraying her son to his biggest enemy by selling his legacy out from under him was not laudable, Jack. AFAIC you are not a great or loyal big brother. I'm glad Billy has been shining you on. 👿

Sharon, Alan is something but a "lucky charm" ain't it, hon. Not unless you wanted to get kidnapped and poisoned, AGAIN, with a side order of your worst enemy.

Looks like Sharon inadvertently helped Traci put 2 and 2 together about the alerts she saw on Alan/Martin's phone. All Traci went to the coffeehouse for was some muffins and she ended up getting hella suspicious about her new fiancée. Thanks, Sharon! 🤡

Okay, Jackie, Traci needs your clear-headed thinking on Alan/Martin ASAP. Don't let her down.

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Tracy, honey, open a large umbrella because you are about to be shit on.

1 hour ago, surfgirl said:

Yes Tracy, it IS possible. Because this show never allows plus sized women a happy ever after, and sadly you should know that after all these years. It allows skinny women to sleep around with the entire city, but a plus sized woman in a healthy relationship? Heaven forbid! Josh G disgusts me

 

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1 hour ago, surfgirl said:

Watching Kyle feed Cleve was vomitous.

Sure was. All I could think of was all the crumbs in the bed and which orifices they'd end up in. The GCAC housekeeping staff must loathe Kyle.

7 hours ago, SweePea59 said:

I've seen Sally have heat with her co-stars bu there is not even a flicker from a dying ember's worth between her and Billy. Sending Sally back to LA to revive her fashion house would benefit both Y&R and B&B.

Nah, I like Sally & Billy as a couple. He's problematic but they look good together IMO. And I don't see how sending Sally back to L.A. would help B&B. She'd go back to being basically a day player because B&B is all about Steffy and Hope, forever.

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2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

What the heck was going on with Nikki’s hair today?  The color & style were really ick.  Odd strips of brass on the ends were showing thru in back — as if some colorist made a really bad boo-boo.  And it looked as if one of the stylists dipped her head in glue. Yech

Not to mention the shellacking.  You could bounce a tennis ball on it and it wouldn't move.

 

1 hour ago, surfgirl said:

Watching Kyle feed Cleve was vomitous. I seriously almost lost my lunch, quite literal

Remember when he was banging Audra and had diamond earrings delivered to her.  Poor Claire should get a blank check and go to Harry Winston {after she pukes].

I REALLY hope Clair doesn't get pregnant.

 

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16 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

So when Sally was decorating Billy Boy's joint . . . uh, she couldn't shove in a table & chairs set too?

There is a dining alcove but no one seems to use it.

16 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

I'm completely confused by the sloppy writing on Dumas.  So he's backing Damian.  OK, but Amy started all this mess of a storyline with her being sick, and telling Natey that Damian is his brother.  So is Dumas going after Winters, or does he wanna pick a fight with Vic?  What the heck is going on here?

Yeah, it's been next-level WTFery. My theory is that the arrival of Damian and Holden was JG/Y&R's knee-jerk response to Beyond the Gates, and it was originally just going to involve the Winters family et al. Then the Aristotle Dumas thing was supposed to elevate things to a mystery based on a classic literary reference. When that fell flat, now they've apparently handed the storyline over to Victor and Billy as another chapter in their endless battles. Ugh.

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Wow!  Claire/Eve has broken protocol. Claire/Eve is wearing a red bra 😉

Claire/Eve and Kyle blow off work for “fun and games”. Why shouldn’t they be like the other couples of GC?  The great Casey Stengel said of the 1962, NY Mets, does anyone know how to play this game. Let me rephrase the question. Does anyone in GC actually work?  

Victor objecting to Claire/Eve is one thing but the bigger hurdle is Summer❄️x6😾😾😾 to get over.  

🥁Tara! Tara! Tara!🥁

 

 

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13 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Maybe he gets flashbacks of WWII when he tries to speak French. 😉

Oh, I think it goes further back than that. Ai tells me that the oldest war between France and a unified or proto-German state is considered to be the Franco-German War of 978–980. And sure, Victor was already too old to enlist, but that didn't stop him!

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Nikki’s sliced back hairdo!  Lol  Displays all the chopped layers of her hair and not in a good way.  Also highlights her drawn face since she lost the weight.  Her body looks amazing however her blush is standing out like 2 circles on a clown’s face.  You would think they could blend it better and it doesn’t help she always seems to suck in her cheeks to look imperious in most of her scenes!

 

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23 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I REALLY hope Clair doesn't get pregnant.

Me too but think how bothered Summer would be. She couldn't use Harrison as a weapon anymore because Claire would be a bio baby mama versus an adoptive baby mama.

I think Claire and Summer would have to go on the Jerry Springer Show and duke it out in a kiddie pool filled with mud while Kyle stood by looking sheepish.

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13 hours ago, Js Nana said:

I don't think anyone can intentionally give themselves cancer, so Amy's cancer diagnosis would have to be coincidental to anything she and Ari D. were planning.

I'm thinking that Dumas had Damian pretty well vetted when he handed over CEO/ownership of his companies.  He could have researched Damian's mom, too, and found out she lived in GC where his arch-nemesis Viktor holds court. A little more research finds the birth connection that might exist between Nate's dad and Damian and now Dumas has something to work with.  The Winters (Lily and Devon and Nate) are running Chancellor until they are not.  Viktor has always had something to do with it since he owned it after Katherine died.  When Dumas determines that Amy had a baby with Nate's dad but Damian doesn't know, he gets the ball rolling for the reveal.  Why, you say?  Because it will get him in the door at Chancellor to mess with Viktor.  The takeover of Chancellor by the Newman's gave Dumas a way to get the Winters in his plan.  Amy's cancer was coincidental, but in a good way for Dumas.  He still could have used her (and the He's Your Brother lie) without it.  Now, Dumas (since he must read all the news flashes about GC Legacy Corporations, doesn't everyone?) also knows about Billy and his ousting and plan to have the biggest, bestest media conglomerate since Rupert Murdoch and he's using that buffoon to blindside Viktor.  All of this will be for naught, since Viktor always wins.  We know Billy with blow this.

**This is not a spoiler-just my caffeine fueled mind going off on a tangent.**

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More scenes with The Cryer & The Weasel and, man, it’s boring as heck!  The Cryer says they’re amazing . . . once or a billion times?  Idk or care — it’s all a blur & white noise to me.

I thought Jackie was gonna say to Traci she’s imagining everything & be his usual useless self, but ah, no, he’s a teeny bit helpful.  Color me surprised!

The Red Beast throws more hissy fits & it goes on mute cuz I can’t take it.  This time it’s to Diane & she smartly exits pretty darn quick.

It’s official — Billy is nuts . . . in addition to being a failure & a loser.  Is Abbott Communications really gonna be a front for something else?  Cuz it’s still a bunch of babble, hooey & nothing.

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4 hours ago, MollyB said:

**This is not a spoiler-just my caffeine fueled mind going off on a tangent.**

All I can say is thank you, MollyB, for your caffeine fueled tangent, because it really does add a lot of food for thought to discussions about this particular storyline.

2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

The Red Beast throws more hissy fits

What gets me is that the character has been written as someone who is obviously suffering from PTSD, and none of the other characters advise her to seek counseling with a caring provider, but not! Dr. Sharon.

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Diane, trying to pet a rabid vampire bat is usually not a good idea. You probably should've steered clear of Phyllis.

And Phyllis, mending fences with Diane? Sure, that'll happen. On Neptune.

Billy, you can see how messed up Phyllis is. Try being helpful for a change and 5150 her. #notevenkidding

Wow, how old is Connor now, 37? Not only was his voice deeper, his Adam's apple was as big as...wait for it...Adam's! 🤡🤡🤡

Chelsea and Adam, you can never break up again for fear of triggering the return of Connor's OCD. Bad move, continuing to give him so much power over your relationship.

I liked Billy's short trench. It was kind of like a fancier car coat.

Poor Traci. At least she's facing her horrid doubts about Alan/Martin instead of keeping her head in the clouds.

"Aristotle Dumas is the key to Chancellor." Sure, Billy, as long as he isn't planning to snatch Chancellor for himself. You're bait, not an investment.

Contact Chance? Pshht. Jack, you and Traci need to call the FBI. A) since Alan used a cell phone, the crime technically crossed state lines; and, B) Chance is, um, less than effective as a detective.

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Manic Phyllis🕷️ is like a chain smoker trying to quit smoking and the desire for another cigarette is overwhelming.  I’ll give Manic Phyllis🕷️ for trying to tone down her hate but it’s still there and will always be there.  

Connor doesn’t have to be SORAS he’s doing a good job of that on his own.  

Is the new and improved Manic Phyllis🕷️going to stand for Billy👃trying to get Chancellor back with the pretense of Aristotle Dumas doing it and not him.  If Manic Phyllis🕷️really wants to rid herself of hate than am she really has to stay away from Billy👃.  Billy👃is full of rage on the inside but doesn’t show it that much on the outside like Manic Phyllis🕷️ does. 

 

🥁Tara! Tara! Tara!🥁

 

 

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So...like...how long will reformed SyPh last? Anyone taking bets? I wonder what the under/over on her is in Vegas.

Traci, at least she figured out something aint right in the water and WE figured out finally that Martin ain't dead. Or...maybe there is no Martin and its one person with a split personality...is that even possible? When Jack was trying to wrap his brain around Traci's hypothesis I could literally SEE the hamster sprinting on a wheel inside Jackie's head! Man, TIIC have really castrated his character, haven't they? 

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I thought the scene between Phyllis and Diane was performed really well by both actresses. A rare treat on this show! A nervous breakdown lines up well with MS’s style.

 Connor looks alot like Adam as he is getting older. Good casting! Too bad that kid has to act in the most boring storyline on this soap. (Well, tied with Claire/Kyle).  A new dog would be much more exciting.

 Thank God for Traci. No other character on this soap would have figured out the kidnapping culprit anywhere near as quickly!

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Adam: Let us gaze into our own navels and drone on in self-congratulatory fashion about our epic love. All we need is each other, which is good. We’ve apparently been isolated from the rest of Genoa City.

Chelsea: Did I forget to mention that someone from the health department stopped by and stuck quarantine notices all around the exterior of the raunch? We’re toxic to other people. This person said exposure to our banal relationship was as dangerous as eating the corn out of cow flops but only half as appetizing.

Adam: What? Did you tell him about Connor’s OCD?

Chelsea: I chased his van for two miles. 
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Diane: Hello, Phyllis.

Phyllis: CAW CAW CAW! How fucking dare you! Oh god, I’m so sorry. Why are you such a dumb bitch?

Diane: Toodles!

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Traci: I feel like my dignity is about to be thrown off a balcony and killed even as it provides a life saving cushion for its evil twin.

Jack: Alan being Martin doesn’t make a lick of sense. Then again, we live in the dumbest timeline where Abbotts always get a swift kick in the jimmies.

Traci: I thought I would spend my life enjoying Alan’s jimmies. Instead I get Martin’s nuts.

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Chelsea: Your dad and I are back together! Yay!

Connor: Ok?

Adam: We hope this change won’t trigger your OCD. Your mom and I have every confidence that you can use your tools to cope if the worst happens.

Connor: I’m looking at two tools right now and it’s not helping. I need to get back to Fortnite. Are you guys done being cringe?

Chelsea: Feel free to go to school after our quarantine is lifted and share the good news with your classmates. We’d be happy to come to show and tell and teach Chemistry 101.

Connor: Makes wanking motion and leaves room.

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Phyllis: Diane is a filthy whore.

Billy: Total whore. Just a dirty, dirty whore. Is this helping at all?

Phyllis: Nope. Let’s talk business.

Billy: Good news on that front. You’ve heard of Aristotle Dumas? Dumahhhh. Dooooo-MA. Dumbass. The more you say it, the weirder it sounds.

Phyllis: What about him?

Billy: He’s the key to retaking Chancellor, to righting the wrong Victor did to me. He called me looking for some red hot quid, but first I negotiated that quo like a boss. Bumped it up to pro quo.

Phyllis: Fucking idiot.

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I'm just getting over my very first bout of Covid ever - mild case all around except for everything tasting like butt biscuits - and this episode might have reignited all my symptoms.

Chelsea and Adam should be declared public health hazards and put in permanent quarantine.  If there's any way to repair Victor's brussel sprouts dungeon, do it, and do it quickly.  Those two need to be walled up.  I admit that any sympathy I might once have had for Connor and his OCD has evaporated more completely than Kyle's pompadour sucks up hair gel.  He's a true child of his parents and there's no way to spin that to sound good.

Diane had her chance to end Phyllis with a dessert fork and didn't take it.  Damn her.

The only thing worse than the endless gangrenous babbling from Adam and Chelsea is having to listen - again, and again and again - to MS's latest acting tic of gasp-crying after ever mention of "HERCHILDREN", "BEINGHELDCAPTIVE" and now, apparently, "LABRATS", which I assume was also how her mother referred to her and Easy Bake Avery.

I'd rather watch an endless loop of Progressive Insurance ads and that's no compliment.

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12 hours ago, lgprimes said:

A nervous breakdown lines up well with MS’s style.

 Thank God for Traci. 

Beth Maitland should get an Emmy for her part in this dumb story.  MS shouldn't.  There are believable tears and fears and then there are bogus tears and fears.  Guess who has the believable ones.

And since it's Friday and I need to have a good rant:

  • How come Sharon who has been involved in THREE kidnappings this past year (I'm counting the kidnapping of her daughter who became a human bomb and Sharon had to kill someone to free her) is not in the throes of PTSD (or whatever the hell Phyllllthy is supposed to have)?  Her kidnappings were back to back (depending on how the TimeWarpLine is interpreted) and she seems to be aware that it will take time to process the experience(s).  Phyltttth is squawking and Crocodile Tearing at any and everyone who comes near her and then refusing help.
  • The Connor and His OCD crap.  He sits there demanding with his Ugly frown-face to know why they tore him away from his homework to talk to him. Teach him some manners.  Oh, right-forgot who his parents are.
  • I still can't believe a guy fell two stories (or more, I don't know) on top of his brother had the foresight to quickly change shirts while he had an injured arm to fool the people who found him into believing he was Alan.  Did he change the pants too or is it mandatory that all twins wear the same pants?  I still think it is Alan messing with Traci and the PTSD Girls because he had guilt and took on the Martin persona after the fall.  At least that gives us Traci helping him to become the real Alan she fell in love with and maybe getting a well-deserved happy ending.

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25 minutes ago, MollyB said:

Beth Maitland should get an Emmy for her part in this dumb story.  MS shouldn't.  There are believable tears and fears and then there are bogus tears and fears.  Guess who has the believable ones

 

25 minutes ago, MollyB said:

Beth Maitland should get an Emmy for her part in this dumb story.  MS shouldn't.  There are believable tears and fears and then there are bogus tears and fears.  Guess who has the believable ones.

At least she has a STORY instead if propping up someone else.  But I still say fire her hairdresser.

Does anyone but me think Audra is being eased out and Clair is now going to be the go getter? Audra's back story is getting thinner and thinner.

13 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Traci: I thought I would spend my life enjoying Alan’s jimmies. Instead I get Martin’s nuts.

OMG

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