Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Joimiaroxeu]

Hmm, one would think Jabot's building security wouldn't let Victor Newman stroll right into Jack's office, unannounced and uninvited.

Seriously, Nikki? Claire meeting Victor halfway means he gets to run her life? You're bad at math, hon, because half does not equal 100%.

Claire practically had a halo over her head during her hug with Kyle at the park. Are we supposed to see the schmoopy duo as GC's version of Romeo and Juliet? Uh, yeah, no.

Or else what, Victor? Didn't look to me like Adam was scurred. Who he sells his condo to likely won't be your decision no matter how much you stomp and scream .

2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Why did Claire think Nikki would be of any help?  She was useless (in yet another hair-don’t).  She likes her lifestyle way too much to go against Vic.  Same with Adam.  You know he’ll slink away from the apartment deal cuz Vic ordered him to.

I dunno, I think Adam will decide to find a way around Victor's ridiculous demand. He could sell the condo to a shell company and let it handle Claire and Kyle's puchase. Claire and Adam could put their Ivy League educations to use and do an untraceable transaction.

[Js Nana]

I thought Claire's outfit today was both attractive and appropriate day-time wear for someone who works in an office.

[Joimiaroxeu]

18 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

When asked about Abby, Victor's response is a quizzical "Who?"

I did not make the comment this post replied to and cited to me.

Edited Friday at 10:38 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[NinjaPenguins]

2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

what do ya bet Claire gets preggers?  And the fun begins? 

Has the word ‘fun’ been redefined to mean standing downwind of Nick after someone pulled his finger?

I feel like I’m supposed to be rooting for Claire’s and Kyle’s all consuming love to triumph over the sentient fossil, but I genuinely can’t be arsed. Schmoopy talk while boning your kid’s nanny isn’t a grand, sweeping romance. I cannot even fathom fighting a cold to be with the likes of Kyle Abbott, let alone a vampire. Almost the whole dreary show was about those two assholes and their tedious angst about moving in together. You’d think a billionaire tycoon would have better shit to do than disappear up his own ass over his granddaughter’s love life. You’d be wrong.

A good writer who wasn’t penning Newman fanfic would have let Jack throw hands when Victor floated into Jabot like the ringwraith he is. At least let security give him a ten bell wedgie.

5 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Are we supposed to see the schmoopy duo as GC's version of Romeo and Juliet

If they’re willing to follow the story to its logical conclusion, I’m willing to watch.

Holy hell Chelsea is dumb. She knows she’s made a terrible career move but doubles down anyway. Adam, meanwhile, explains to his lackey how to pronounce the name Dumas because we haven’t heard that enough. One day, Esther will hand Victor a manly mug of strong black coffee at Crimson Lights. As he swallows the last bitter dregs, Victor sees writing at the bottom of his cup. I am Aristotle Dumas.

 

[Js Nana]

7 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I think Adam will decide to find a way around Victor's ridiculous demand.

Suggestion to JG: Start a storyline in which TGVN becomes a toothless old tiger when his children unite in finding ways around him while making him believe that they are all in line with his ridiculous demands - and it's becoming more-and-more apparent that it's time for EB's Victor to be given emeritus status - it's at the point where the most that EB can physically contribute to the character is the Victor Newman voice and scowl

[Js Nana]

19 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I did not make the comment this post replied to and cited to me.

OH, NO, I did it again - I quoted a quote you had quoted in a comment, which made it show up as a quote of yours, rather than pvandal's.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Vic screeched today how he hates the Abbott family.  That includes Ashley, who he married & had a child with?  That includes his own daughter with Ashley — poor forgotten Abbey?  That includes Traci, who saved his life?  That includes his grandchildren — Vicks’ & Billy’s children, who are legally Abbotts & (presumably) have the Abbott last name?

Vic’s rants are sounding more & more unhinged & senseless.  The intensity of his anger when he was in Jackie’s office was really skeery.  Kyle was rightfully disturbed.  Jackie was oddly indifferent— as if he’d been there, done that so many times with Vic, this was per usual for him.  Idk, Jackie, cut the indifference cuz this looks like big trouble . . .

[One Tough Cookie]

4 hours ago, Denize said:

I wouldn't be surprised if it is someone we already know

Make it Tucker.  MAKE IT TUCKER

 

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

eh, JG must have seen the viewer complaints about Cyaxares during the Ashland Locke storyline and said, "Hold my beer."

Pull my fingerer

I sorta like what Nikki had on, but I would preferred it as a blouse with a black skirt and a less aggressive necklace.

[Waldo13]

Kyle are you that stupid?  Rhetorical question, of course he is. He thinks by going with Claire/Eve to face Victor will be helping.  Why do Victor’s advisories, Kyle and Billy👃, think it’s better to confront him head on. 

When Mrs 🐿️ talks all I hear is squeak squeak squeak until she makes a good point that Chelsea didn’t think about the negatives. Chelsea, stay with Marchetti. It’s your first best destiny. On that note, Sally should do the same because Billy👃is no bargain to work for because when push comes to shove he won’t listen to you and do what he wants. 

I really don’t think that Claire/Eve is all in on her relationship with Kyle. At best, it’s an infatuation with Kyle being her first and first love.  There is one big thing that Victoria and Nick🦍 didn’t have with face with their choice of significant others, they are not an Abbott.  Besides over the years, Victor’s animosity, for the Abbots, have grown exponentially.

 

[Js Nana]

When a show becomes shallow and repetitive, as this one has, it's time to either call it a day, or change direction, and I'm in favor of changing direction, transitioning to new storylines with new characters that exist outside of the world of personal rivalries among the mega-rich - I have a confession to make, I loved BTG when it started, but I'm finding it more-and-more of a disappointment because the writing seems to have fallen into the same formula as Y&Rs, in the case of BTG, it's a rich family living in a gated community and the conflicts that arise.

[boes]

10 minutes after watching and I've already forgotten most of Show.

Victor is starting to make Jabba the Hut look and sound more benevolent and kind.  That remark he made to Nikki about how he's been right to interfere in his children's lives because of all their divorces was remarkablely unselfaware.

He's been married to Nikki at least 4 times, to Ashley twice, and to 7 other women, one of whom was his daughter-in-law.  

Nikki's racked up at least 4 with Victor, to Jack twice, and to 5 other guys as well.

That's not a glass house he's throwing stones at, it's a whole damn glass city.

Previews - Claire's going to through a party!!  The New Year's party in Rosemary's Baby wasn't as grim as this will be.

Edited Saturday at 02:31 PM by boes
Speeling

[Denize]

The problem with Adam selling his condo is that he & Chelsea seem to be getting on each others' nerves, and it probably won't be long before they decide they cannot be together 24/7 and he'll wish he'll want his condo back.

[Joimiaroxeu]

14 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

Make it Tucker.  MAKE IT TUCKER

Yes please! YES PLEASE!

8 hours ago, boes said:

Victor is starting to make Jabba the Hut look and sound more benevalent and kind.  That remark he made to Nikki about how he's been right to interfere in his children's lives because of all their divorces was remarkablely unselfaware.

He's been married to Nikki at least 4 times, to Ashley twice, and to 7 other women, one of whom was his daughter-in-law.  

Nikki's racked up at least 4 with Victor, to Jack twice, and to 5 other guys as well.

That's not a glass house he's throwing stones at, it's a whole damn glass city.

All the receipts have been broughten. Victor is so full of shite even the sewer rats don't want to be near him.

Edited Saturday at 02:15 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[Joimiaroxeu]

16 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Vic’s rants are sounding more & more unhinged & senseless.  The intensity of his anger when he was in Jackie’s office was really skeery.  Kyle was rightfully disturbed.  Jackie was oddly indifferent— as if he’d been there, done that so many times with Vic, this was per usual for him.  Idk, Jackie, cut the indifference cuz this looks like big trouble . . .

Yeah, Victor seems to be undergoing some kind of medical issue and it's affecting his brain, hence the sudden outbursts of rage and threats. Only this time it'll be real and not a fake out like he pulled with Nate. Of course it'll be curable since Victor isn't allowed to lose, even to illness.

Edited Saturday at 04:07 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[MollyB]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Yeah, Victor seems to be undergoing some kind medical issue and it's affecting his brain

I agree. He doesn’t hear how ridiculous he sounds. I know how hard it is to get someone to seek medical help but this is turning into a very dark, sad situation . What I don’t understand is why grown, adult people are afraid to cross him or even listen to his rants. All this plotzing is making me sick, too. Shut up, people, and get on with your life!

 

[One Tough Cookie]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Vic’s rants are sounding more & more unhinged & senseless.  The intensity of his anger when he was in Jackie’s office was really skeery.

I honestly would have called security.

[Joimiaroxeu]

6 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I honestly would have called security.

I did not make the comment this post replied to and cited to me.

[Sake614]

Nailed it!

🤣😰

[SweePea59]

On 5/4/2025 at 12:23 PM, ScoobieDoobs said:

I hate to predict this, I really do, but what do ya bet Mariah hooked up with a man,

Based on the way Mariah's acting, my mind has gone to much darker places so hooking up with some rando guy would be a nice, safe, dull choice.

On 5/5/2025 at 7:18 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Billy needed to cut Red off instead sitting there letting her insult his girlfriend, but he still let Phyllis have the last word. AFAIC Billy's final word should've been "5150."

When I read that I thought you said 5950 and I thought, why would Joi want Billy to give Phylthy a Yankees hat?

On 5/5/2025 at 11:13 PM, NinjaPenguins said:

I wish Lily would let the Dumas thing go. It will never live up to the hype.

I wish they'd all let it go. Nothing on this show lives up to the hype. And besides, we all know it's going to turn out to be Mamie.

Edited Saturday at 10:34 PM by SweePea59
ETA: I did not type "Billy". I typed the cookie name. Something is rotten in Denmark.

[Joimiaroxeu]

54 minutes ago, SweePea59 said:

When I read that I thought you said 5950 and I thought, why would Joi want Billy to give Phylthy a Yankees hat?

5950. Now that's what I'd call an inside baseball reference, literally. Learn something new every day.

54 minutes ago, SweePea59 said:

I wish they'd all let it go. Nothing on this show lives up to the hype. And besides, we all know it's going to turn out to be Mamie.

Fie! Fie! Not Mamie! It was hard enough getting rid of her last time she showed up. Gah! 😱😱😱😱😱

Edited Saturday at 11:26 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[One Tough Cookie]

1 hour ago, SweePea59 said:

, we all know it's going to turn out to be Mamie

I'm out

[Js Nana]

23 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

Make it Tucker.  MAKE IT TUCKER

T St.J's wry portrayal of Tucker highlights how absurd all the other characters are - although I think he'd make Tucker sympathetic to Claire.

[Js Nana]

From MichaelFairmanTV website 5/8/2025: "Mishael Morgan Speaks on Her Y&R Return; Is Legal Eagle Amanda Sinclair Representing Aristotle Dumas?"

[MsMalin]

Words I'd love to hear:  

The role of Victor Newman is now being played by Hugh Jackman

[Snaporaz]

Tucker as Doom-uh doesn't really add up. It keeps getting mentioned that AD first surfaced six years ago.  Tucker came back to town more recently than that and had financial problems at the time.  My prediction is (please don't throw tomatoes) Cane.  Cane left about six years ago, has grifter DNA, was once CEO of Chancellor, and has frosty ties to the Winters. I can't think of anybody else who checks all those boxes, unless it's a new character.  I've read somewhere that Whatzhisnuts just went to Genital Hospital, so maybe it's a re-cast Cane?

[Js Nana]

5 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

Tucker as Doom-uh doesn't really add up

If it isn't a completely new character, then who could Aristotle Dumas be; could it be Tucker McCall, could it be Cane Ashby, could it be Ian Ward, could it be Michael Baldwin, maybe it's actually Nikki.

I really do hope that Amanda Sinclair returns to GC as legal representative to the mysterious AD, because it being for any other reason would seem kind of dull.

[Js Nana]

14 hours ago, MsMalin said:

Victor Newman is now being played by Hugh Jackman

Interestingly enough, MTS and Hugh Jackman's ex-wife, Deborra-Lee Furness, are both 69 years old, which makes them 13 years older than HJ, who is 56 - HJ would have to apply age progressing make-up to play Victor, otherwise it would look like maybe Nikki poisoned Victor's oatmeal, buried his body somewhere on the ranch and slipped in a younger guy to take his place, hoping that no one would notice the difference.

[Sake614]

I finally watched Fridays episode after basically deleting the last two weeks. At least I didn’t have to see/hear Phyllis. Sadly I still had to listen to Prictor drone on about how Claire and Pomp will NEVER move in together and that Pomp better stay away from his granddaughter. 

for one bright shining moment I thought Claire might actually listen to reason and admit she wasn’t ready to move in with Kyle. But no, even though it was all Kyle’s idea and she told him she wasn’t ready, he persisted and now she’s all in. As much as I hate to admit it, Victor is right that she’s too naive about things and not ready for that kind of relationship. She wants to be wanted and needed after the way she was raised. I get that but moving in with someone after dating for maybe 6 months, especially when this is the first relationship you’ve ever had, is a bad move. Oh well, she’ll find out sooner than later that Kyle isn’t the man she thinks he is. 

so Chelsea quits Marchetti and doesn’t say a word to her best/ only friend? Well okay then, it’s pretty clear where her priorities lie. I don’t blame Chloe. That was a shitty thing to do. And if her so called reason—thst she was afraid Chloe wouldn’t approve—is legit, she has serious problems. Did I hear her correctly? That she’s going to start a column or magazine or blog or vlog or some shit to talk about mental illness? And she considerS herself a qualified expert on the subject? Well okay then!

[bayviewbubba]

Am I missing something?  I still don't understand Mariah's complication.  It has to do with Ian.  That's all I could get.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Er, warning, warning, warning!  BOOBIES ALERT, BOOBIES ALERT, BOOBIES ALERT!!!!  Today, The Red Beast has ‘em on display & I challenge you not to look at ‘em.  It’s not possible!  Why must you do this to us, Y&R wardrobe peeps?  Yuck.

Lots of teary weeping & wah-wah-wah-ing from Mariah & Who-is-that-woman Tessa and we have no idea why.  And it’s getting really annoying.  Don’t shlep this shit out, Show — ya better give us a reveal quick.

Ah, so Claire is living in her own world of rainbows & lollipops & for some reason believes Vic is sane — and she thinks a picnic with Pomp & Harrison & Vic will solve all.  Er, huh?

 

[Js Nana]

15 hours ago, Js Nana said:

hoping that no one would notice the difference.

Or maybe Nick, Victoria, Adam and poor invisible Abby would be so glad to be rid of Victor the Tyrant that they'd go along with the ruse.

 

[Js Nana]

6 minutes ago, Js Nana said:

they'd go along with the ruse.

. . . or maybe they'd come up with a story about how Victor was struck by not one, not two, but three bolts of lightning at once, thus reducing his body to a pile of ashes while he was on a business trip to Outer Mongolia.

[Sake614]

2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

so Claire is living in her own world of rainbows & lollipops & for some reason believes Vic is sane — and she thinks a picnic with Pomp & Harrison & Vic will solve all.  Er, huh

Well of course it will! I mean, can’t you just see Victor sitting down on a picnic blanket and playing catch with Harrison? Why, by the end of the day I’ll bet he gives that sweet couple his blessing and builds them a house! 

so the reason Victors approval matters so much is that Claire sees herself in him? Because he was an orphan and in a way so was she? Girl, you clearly are desperately in need of deep, intense therapy. It’s okay to admire what he accomplished, but if you’re going to allow him to dictate your life, you’re in trouble.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Claire, Grandpa Abbott Hater is not going to be casually hanging out with you and Kyle Abbott. Victor loathed Kyle before Kyle was even born. Come back into this reality, sweetums.

Why Mariah is suddenly hung up on dead history with Ian? Delayed PTSD?

So Phyllis is hella jealous of Sally and is predicting Sally's massive failure as AbbCom's COO. Pathetic is not a good look, Red. Neither is the "call girl working the airport business lounge" outfit you're wearing.

3 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Why must you do this to us, Y&R wardrobe peeps?  Yuck.

The dress Phyllis had on was surprising to me because the new wardrobe person had been pretty much keeping Phyllis' skin covered. Then today we got bare arms, mostly bare back and shoulders, and the weirdly half-bound breastesses. Yuck indeed.

Edited 2 hours ago by Joimiaroxeu

[Joimiaroxeu]

Speaking of eye-opening outfits, what the holey hail did Sally have on today? It looked to me like it was made from a blue scuba diving suit.

Claire told Kyle she's been in awe of Victor for years. She'd already drunk the Newman Koolaid before she helped Jordan try to kill him? Smells like a retcon. 😡

Sigh, Billy. You need to read the Wiki page for the term "stalking horse" because that's clearly what you are to Aristotle Dumas. I foresee "Fool" being stamped on your forehead because he's playing you for one. Listen to your girlfriend!

8 hours ago, Sake614 said:

she’ll find out sooner than later that Kyle isn’t the man she thinks he is. 

Yeah, Kyle isn't even the man he thinks he is. He's a player, and not a very good one. All Kyle's got to work with is his last name and his ability to sound charming and educated.

[One Tough Cookie]

14 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Speaking of eye-opening outfits, what the holey hail did Sally have on today? It looked to me like it was made from a blue scuba diving suit.

Agreed about the fabric, or whatever it was, but I liked the color on her.

[Joimiaroxeu]

FFS, cough it up, Mariah. Quit holding onto whatever this big secret is you have about Ian, and stop shutting out your wife. If you don't, someone else might be holding Tessa. O hai Daniel.

It seems like the only way Daniel is going to get Phyllis off his back is to find a job. But why it has to be a job with Phyllis still makes no sense. I was glad Daniel basically told his mommy she was being relentless and it wasn't helping him.

Billy kept lying to Sally's face about his not wanting to snatch Chancellor back from the Newmans, with Dumas' help. And now Phyllis the eavesdropping lurker knows it. Here we go.

4 hours ago, bayviewbubba said:

Am I missing something?  I still don't understand Mariah's complication.  It has to do with Ian.  That's all I could get.

As far as I can tell, no one can figure out what Mariah's deal is all of a sudden. Apparently the viewers are supposed to be intrigued. Sure.

Edited 2 hours ago by Joimiaroxeu

[Js Nana]

Maybe it's my sordid imagination, but it looked to me like on today's show that MG was trying his best to look into MS's eyes rather than at her decolletage, because there's nothing creepier than a "son" staring at his "mother's" low-cut neckline, even when it's actors playing mother and son.
 

[Js Nana]

43 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Apparently the viewers are supposed to be intrigued.

"Intrigued" is not the word that comes to mind vis-a-vis Mariah's untellable secret - pissed is more like it, because I'd like nothing more than to be able to reach through the screen, smack her upside the head and scream "Get over yourself, ya' little jerk."

[Waldo13]

Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍 true to form, doesn’t enter a room, she slithers into the room. 

Does Claire/Eve realize how selfish Kyle is?  Kyle is hinting that he wants Claire/Eve to abandon her Newman family and side with the Abbotts.  I couldn’t be happier. Claire/Eve wants to slow things down with Kyle. 

Can’t Manic Pathetic Phyllis🐍 get it through her reptile brain that Daniel doesn’t really want to work with his mother. Daniel is right about his mother in that it’s more about herself than him.  

When is Mariah going to let Tessa know she was unfaithful?  The longer Mariah takes the more she will be to driving Tessa to be more than in Daniel’s arms.