Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[Joimiaroxeu]

13 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

And for the love of all that is good in this world, please stop with Kyle and Claire having the slightest bit of physical intimacy. So awkward.

Kyle has always read to me as a guy who isn't particularly generous in bed. In fact, the actor seems lowkey awkward in those scenes IMO. Sometimes I wonder if certain actors aren't accustomed to displaying that kind of affection toward the opposite sex, if my drift is caught. Or maybe some actors just don't like performing that way in front of a camera. <shrugs>

11 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

how did Jordie know about Sharon's prescription being tested?  She has super-human powers?  She can see & hear things others can't?  Oh real great writing.

Yeah, it seems like some dialogue or maybe a whole scene was left out where it would've been indicated that Jordan was snooping in or near Sharon's house. As it is, this whole story arc with Jordan and Ian feels shoehorned in to me. Was anyone begging for the return of either of those characters?

[MollyB]

12 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Was anyone begging for the return of either of those characters?

NO!  If I remember correctly, we were very verbal here about losing Jordie when she first appeared and then again when she came back for the Brussel Sprouts.  Ian would have been ok to bring back if they brought back the original Ian, not this mess of a seething 'vengeance'.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

On 12/8/2024 at 1:13 PM, Foghorn Leghorn said:

Claire’s deeper brown tones bring out her blue eyes as do most people.  I remember Carmody the makeup artist saying this all the time on that makeover show..forget the name.  A guy and a girl did it from clothes to hair and makeup.  

What Not to Wear!  Remembered..lol

[MsMalin]

Where in the world did Abby pick up that fugly artwork for Ashley?!

 

[SiouxB]

That artwork looked like a piece of wallpaper that had laid in the sun for a while and was all cracked and curling…

and at the very, very least, you could have had it framed Abby….

I think you can afford it 🫨😜 

[One Tough Cookie]

What a steaming pile.

Ian couldn't have been more obvious with the dark glasses and hat.

Audra was wearing less eye make up than usual.  She looked great; less tense than she usually seems.

Abby and Devon--please go back to Paris, and for good.  thank you,

[Joimiaroxeu]

Dominic's poofy hair! Adorable.

Everybody's baking cookies in Mrs. Martinez's kitchen lately. Today it was Ashley and Dominic; last week it was Kyle and one of his girlfriends. Hmm.

Heh, if Audra says she feels good about Amy Lewis, I think Amy must be pulling a huge con.

How did Ian know he'd find Mariah and Nick at Crimson Lights?

Good grief, Sharon made more excuses for why Noah hasn't come home to be with her during her troubles. Hey Show, just kill Noah off. #notevenkidding

That thing Abby gave Ashley looked like an oversized placemat to me but apparently it was of some cultural significance in Fiji. Okay.

Phyllis stays being psycho. AFAIC her obsession with Sharon is textbook "game recognize game." And it's less than smart for her to keep threatening Sharon in public places where other people can hear her.

Can PCP be traced to its source? Otherwise I don't see how anyone will connect it to Jordan. Not unless she drops a clue accidentally, say, a receipt with her name on it from Street Drugs R Us.

Ashley's probably having nightmares because her subconscious knows Alan is Martin. 😉

Sharon wants to be hypnotized to recover the memories from when she blacked out during the car accident. Gee, what could possibly go wrong? Given what a scrambled mess her brain is right now, she might recall walking on the moon in 1969.

[Denize]

17 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Ah, so we got to see Ian's swell "disguise" . . . and could he be anymore conspicuous?  A hunched-over old man, all in black, with a black fedora?  A black fedora?  Who's worn that since Sinatra did in 1956?  Well, Ian --- and that's about it. 

Ha ha. And you didn't even mention the very dark sunglasses - indoors!  I'm surprised he could find his way to a seat without tripping over something. 

What was going on with Abby's hair?  It looked like she soaked it with some of Nikki's Easy-On Spray Starch and stuck her head in the Liberty Bell to set the bell shape. I like the length, but not the shape and papier mâché stiffness.

Edited December 10 by Denize

[ScoobieDoobs]

4 hours ago, MollyB said:

She overheard it in one of the four eateries/drinkeries in GC that everyone  stands in the middle of and discusses/argues their business.  Nothing is private in GC.

This shtick, that Show seems to do all the time, makes me nuts.  How can Jordie (and now Ian) clearly hear conversations from 15 feet (or more) away?  Even in some mostly empty joint, with no background music, it's still mostly impossible to do.  Oh yeah, I forgot, these 2 seniors have super-human powers.  

And that Nick & Mariah didn't notice the suspicious, creepy old dude, dressed all in black, wearing a dopey-looking fedora & dark sunglasses inside AND leaning over way too obviously to listen in on their convo?  Sheesh, that was so DUMB!  He looked like Boris Badenov.  Are we supposed to be laughing at the silliness & stupidity of this?  Sorry, Show, it's way more lame than funny.

I had to mute Phyllis cuz I just can't take her crazy rants anymore.  She really sounds like a lunatic around Sharon.  Can't Sharon get a restraining order on her & have her arrested if she comes near her again?  I can't take watching these repetitive, annoying rants.  Get something to do with your life, Phyllis!

Poor Audra has nothin' to do now except sit around, talking to Nate about his dull probs.  She has to know Devon ain't EVER gonna hire her.  Still puzzled what kind of a job she's gonna get when everyone in GC hates her guts.  Had to giggle when she seemed puzzled why nobody in GC wants to hire her.  Uh, maybe cuz ya back-stabbed everyone, hun?  Ya think?

What's with the shitty present Abby gave to Ash?  Did she say "I'll treasure it"?  Translation -- it'll go right in the trash after you leave.  Only (somewhat) interesting thing about Ash now is her Mrs. Brady shag, cuz otherwise she's a total snooze.  Yeah, Abby chopped her hair & it looks OK, but she's a snooze too, so who cares?

[One Tough Cookie]

1 hour ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Can't Sharon get a restraining order on her & have her arrested

Couldn't her constant harassment be grounds for violating her parole?

[Waldo13]

I like Abby’s shorter hair. It puts her more in sink  with Devon 😉. 

Manic Phyllis🕷️ is like Beetlejuice except you don’t have to say her name 3 times to have chaos.  Time for a restraining order but that will never happen and Manic Phyllis🕷️’s threats should be recorded but that also will never happen.  

Sharon was drugged to act that way but what’s Manic Phyllis🕷️’s excuse.  Manic Phyllis🕷️did Sharon push you down the stairs or watched you fall down the stairs as you said today?  Make up your mind. 

I asked who is more unbalanced Ian of Auntie Jordan but now I have to put Manic Phyllis🕷️ in the mix. 

 

 

[Kimboweena]

2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

And that Nick & Mariah didn't notice the suspicious, creepy old dude, dressed all in black, wearing a dopey-looking fedora & dark sunglasses inside AND leaning over way too obviously to listen in on their convo?

Well, Mariah did look around, confused, like she felt a disturbance in the force.  Nick asked what was wrong, she said she wasn't sure.  This was after Ian left.

[SiouxB]

2 hours ago, Denize said:

 

What was going on with Abby's hair?  It looked like she soaked it with some of Nikki's Easy-On Spray Starch and stuck her head in the Liberty Bell to set the bell shape. I like the length, but not the shape and papier mâché stiffness.

Agreed !

that is my absolute favorite length of hair, but oh my God it looked like a giant box of straw !!

Get thee to a salon pronto !

and take your mother with you because that hairdo on her is wrong on so many levels !

1 minute ago, SiouxB said:

 

Edited December 11 by SiouxB

[ScoobieDoobs]

So anyone think the writers had a "plan" as to how the Sharon-killing-Heather storyline would go?  Cuz as I'm seeing Jordie & Ian arguing & blaming each other about their "grand plan" going wrong, I'm noticing the sloppiness of this storyline becoming more obvious. 

Jordie's & Ian's participation looks more & more like it was tacked on, way after they came up with the concept of Sharon-killing-Heather.  It's all sooo awkward & makes absolutely no sense.  And I suspect once we finally get the explanation of their involvement, it'll make even less sense.  Big fail on this one, Show.

Guess Show is putting the Ash-discovers-Dead-Martin storyline on the back-burner, so we can see more googly-eyed looks from Sharon & screaming hissy fits from Phyllis.  Where does that leave Traci?  Still gushing endlessly over Dead Martin?  And what's Ash to do?  Whine about nightmares & fuss over her new Mrs. Brady shag?  Wow, so many GC'ers with no jobs & nothing to do -- Ash, Billy, Lils, Audra, Phyllis, Daniel . . .

[NinjaPenguins]

13 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

I had to mute Phyllis cuz I just can't take her crazy rants anymore.  She really sounds like a lunatic around Sharon.  Can't Sharon get a restraining order on her & have her arrested if she comes near her again?  I can't take watching these repetitive, annoying rants.  Get something to do with your life, Phyllis!

The absolute worst was her scene with Daniel. It actually made me feel a twinge of compassion for the putz. Phyllis is quite obviously uninterested in his feelings; the grief Daniel feels is just Phyllis’s latest excuse for acting like an unhinged sack of wet kittens. She’s in his face, just frothing at the mouth and screaming that his beloved partner is dead, dead, dead. All Phyllis cares about is browbeating him into joining her two minute hate. She was thissss close to accusing Daniel of disloyalty and betrayal when he looked like “hmmm, yeah, drugs would explain Sharon’s behavior. What’s my mother’s excuse?”

Who else is super excited to watch Nick try and fail to calm Phyllis down again. Just hit her with the elephant tranquilizers and be done with it.

I lol’ed at Ian just shedding his half-assed disguise and openly showing his face in public. Premium effort, guy. 

[MollyB]

17 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

He looked like Boris Badenov.

17 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Get something to do with your life, Phyllis!

 

1.  Jordie and Ian will now and forever be known to me as Boris and Natasha.

2.  Yeah, Phyl, you can start with your community service.

 

[Sake614]

Phyllis (upon seeing Sharon in her own place of business): oh my god, you’re everywhere. I can’t go anyplace without you showing up!

Sharon: you know what would help? You staying away from my coffee shop!

about damn time someone said what we’ve been saying for weeks! 

[Waldo13]

I guess it’s breezy and warm, in GC, so Lauren and Maniac Phyllis🕷️can wear off the shoulder dresses. 

I’m sorry I just can’t believe that Victor doesn’t know that Auntie Jordan is out of jail and that Victor didn’t know it was Jack buying back the pieces of Glissade.  One other thing. How could Manic Phyllis🕷️hit her head on the steering wheel when her airbag deployed?  

I get such a kick out of Manic Phyllis🕷️ where everything she does is acceptable but bastardizes everyone else for doing the same thing she does.  

 

[Js Nana]

40 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

How could Manic Phyllis🕷️hit her head on the steering wheel when her airbag deployed?  

Oh, there you go again, Waldo13, asking logical questions.

12 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

an unhinged sack of wet kittens

Quite the apt description of the lady.

[Js Nana]

On 12/10/2024 at 12:39 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

this whole story arc with Jordan and Ian feels shoehorned in to me.

There being no discernible lead up to it did make it seem like something that was thrown in at the last minute.

[Denize]

18 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Jordie's & Ian's participation looks more & more like it was tacked on, way after they came up with the concept of Sharon-killing-Heather.  It's all sooo awkward & makes absolutely no sense.  And I suspect once we finally get the explanation of their involvement, it'll make even less sense.  Big fail on this one, Show.

I've been wondering if one of the actors has an illness and needs work to qualify for Actor's Guild medical coverage or keep busy. It sounds morbid, but humanitarian, and Y&R has had other tacked-on stories with Bonnie Franklin (who had pancreatic cancer and Colleen was killed for Victor to have a heart transplant) and Nichelle Nicholls shortly before their deaths.

Edited December 12 by Denize

[Sake614]

38 minutes ago, Denize said:

I've been wondering if one of the actors has an illness and needs work to qualify for Actor's Guild medical coverage or keep busy

Colleen did have tongue cancer while at ATWT. So maybe. I personally adore her but this ‘story’ and her OTT character is trying my nerves.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Lauren's gigantic chain link necklace. Wow. Just looking at it made my collarbone hurt.

Right there with ya, Billy. Jack's latest corporate maneuvers are so convoluted you practically get tongue-tied trying to put them into coherent words and sentences.

Victor's such a big ol' baby. "Wah, Jack wouldn't stay down after I thought I'd kicked his @$$. I'm gonna throw my pacifier at him! Wah!"

Faith's hairstyle was interesting. And by "interesting" I mean: was it styled by a blind raccoon? 😼

Diane and Kyle rehashing the same discussion about Jack and Jabot and Glissade and the various ruses. Aarrggghhhh!!!

Nah, Billy, you're not always the last one to know about Abbott/Jabot stuff. Abby's generally kept in a total family news blackout.

Whoa, Sharon coming in hot! Seriously, why won't Phyllis and Daniel stay the fcuk all the way out of the coffeehouse if Sharon is such a problem for them?

Oh come on. Victor publicly admitting defeat to Jack? Jack better not fall for it. #surejan

Edited December 12 by Joimiaroxeu

[Denize]

I thought Daniel moved into Nate's old apartment, but Nate's current apartment looks like his old one. Are they all in the same building? Where do Lily & Devon/Abby live now?

[Joimiaroxeu]

12 minutes ago, Denize said:

I thought Daniel moved into Nate's old apartment, but Nate's current apartment looks like his old one. Are they all in the same building? Where do Lily & Devon/Abby live now?

Lily lives in Devon's former penthouse. Abby and Devon moved to the Chancellor estate. Nate lives in a penthouse across the hall from where Lily lives. Daniel lives in the same building as Lily and Nate but on a different floor.

[boes]

16 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

How could Manic Phyllis🕷️hit her head on the steering wheel when her airbag deployed?  

I bet her airbag hates her, too.  

I'm waiting for that weird dolly thingy they've got hanging on the wall at Crimson Lights to climb down one day and strangle Phyllis with her overworked vowels.

Another day, another retread of the same shit.  In this episode, we even got repeats, a variation on a theme in the SAME episode.  In one scene, Sharon says she's going to be hypnotized, Faith, Mariah and Nick express doubts but then agree to go along with it.  Then, a few scenes later, Sharon says she's going to be hypnotized, Faith and Nick act like this is news to them, and not good news.  

Either short term memory loss is now a Genoa City epidemic or they're all toked up beyond belief.

I'm sorry, but Ian and Jordan are about as scary as angry shoppers at a Ross Dress for Less Tuesday Senior Discount Day.  In fact, I've been far more frightened in the check out lane there than I would be if I saw those two coming at me. 

Not to be outdone in the "how many times must we see this" department, we had to watch Billy moan and groan again because Jack didn't kiss his booboo and make the pain go away, or in other words, sooth his ruffled feathers with another job he doesn't deserve.  It wouldn't so hard to take if he wasn't always so unpleasant about it, and so goddamned rude to Jack.  He's as tiresome and entitled as Kyle and sometimes almost as self-centered and self-impressed as that old toad,Victor.  

Lauren........ I know it's a soap and I know we don't expect reality, but I would love to JUST ONCE, see anyone dressed like Lauren - or Phyllis, for that matter - walk down the main street of a small Wisconsin town.  Just once.

Edited December 12 by boes

[ScoobieDoobs]

Uh, Billy, seething rage, hostility & anger is not a great look.  And it's pretty unpleasant to be around & watch.  Just sayin' . . .

Wait, did Vic really say he doesn't hold grudges -- and to Michael?  Had to chuckle at that, along with him not admitting to Michael on losing anything to Jackie.  But then he admits defeat to Jackie?  Still playing stupid games, eh, old man?  Walk away, Jackie, walk away.

Nice to see Sharon stand up to The Red Beast.  And Sharon actually heard her confess she saw a different car than Sharon's run her off the road.  Cool -- you is busted, Red Beast . . . finally!!!

Guess it could be zero degrees in GC, but Lauren will still wear her one-shoulder jobbies & Phyllis will go sleeveless.  How they wouldn't be shivering in those things, I can't figure.  But Show says if you scan the code shown you can get what's worn.  So Lauren's chunky necklace or one-shoulder number is avail?  OK then, any takers?

[NinjaPenguins]

You know what’s great? I am utterly charmed by how bereft of fucks Michael continues to be about Phyllis ending their friendship. Maybe he’s as exhausted as the rest of us by her traveling narcissistic roadshow and wing flappin’ jamboree. She’s really enjoying her impromptu public performances of Avenging Asshole Who Probably Couldn’t Pick Heather Out of a Lineup. Sharon gets the gold star of the day for suggesting Phyllis stay the fuck out of her coffee shop.

Victor doesn’t get that being able to admit to mistakes is a real show of strength. He looks like a pathetic clown claiming Jack got lucky. I want to dunk my head in bleach every time he mumbles about debauchery. I’m starting to think he suspects Nikki and Jack had a night of drunken sex but doesn’t have the mummified grapes to ask.

There is some compassion owed to Billy, regent of the rump rolls and prince of the posterior pastry. Imagine being passed over for a job for the likes of Kyle, a seething shit volcano of bitterness and chinless, formula-stealing dingleberry. Smaller egos would be crushed, but not so our duke of derrière dumplings. Nothing can slow his jaunty roll as he plots his vengeance against Victor. Honestly, I’d love to see him get it, but we know how the writing works.

 

[MsMalin]

Heavy duty chain or fashion statement? You decide.

[MollyB]

"Chain of Fools" 🎶 (chain, chain, chain.)

[Peppermint]

Unpopular opinion here, but I kinda enjoy Jordan and Ian's campy comic relief scenes. It's like like they know this is their last hurrah on a Soap and are having the time of their lives. 

Now that we know that Jordan has a knife and isn't afraid to wield it, it's just a matter of time til this pair of crazy seniors have an unhinged difference of opinion, Jordan stabs Ian, who then pulls out an antique derringer from his waistcoat and shoots her. They will perish arguing that the one who dies last, wins. 

As to what their grand plan is....I don't give a Flying Fig and doubt that the writers do either. 

Unless Heather's death involves Daisy, the current plot makes about as much sense as Reva Shane's clone "Dolly".

[Joimiaroxeu]

Lol, Audra doing the walk of shame down the stairs from Nate's bedroom. Oh wait, there was no shame in her game at all. I was so glad Audra brushed Devon's rudeness off.

Really? Like Claire is unable to dress herself? I can't with Nikki and Vikki. They could've just taken Claire shopping instead of making their huge self-aggrandizing statement with the surprise trove of clothes and jewelry.

Apparently Lily doesn't care much about her brother or cousin. She hadn't even told them she was back in GC from her trip, and she only lives a few feet from Nate.

Ugh, AFAIC Victor is utterly vile. Almost everything he said to Claire about the Abbotts has or can be applied to Newmans. Fortunately Claire didn't seem fazed by his loyalty test.

Kyle, let it go! Your parents conned YOU, not each other. Move forward, nepo boy, and stop trying to undermine your mommy with your daddy.

Audra, making a special effort to win over the Winters family is not the way you want to go. Ask Elena how well that worked out for her.

Kyle declared to Jack, "Nothing will ever happen to Claire." Oy, that must mean something truly horrible is in store for her.

Finally! Yeah, Lily realized her bills wouldn't pay themselves. And that no one else in town was gonna hire her but Devon, ha ha.

Edited December 12 by Joimiaroxeu

[Foghorn Leghorn]

I thought Nikki and Victoria were giving Claire a much needed makeover from her dreary clothes.  And please please please do something with Claire’s hair!!  The middle part and 2 hunks hanging down the sides WTF?! I was waiting for a hairdresser to pop out.  

[One Tough Cookie]

I think Lauren is beautiful; I hope she DOES NOT go the route Sharon did and freeze her face.  However, girl, altho the color of her dress was gorgeous, it was missing a sleeve.

Lol at yesterday the Sharon and Phill confrontation.  At last Sharon seemed to wake up and realize the Red Menace was berating her in public IN HER OWN cafe. Maybe the fillers have drained down?  I wonder if Michael is too concerned Phil's flounce.

Today was just ......too much. As someone mentioned above they could have just taken her out shopping in Lauren's store.  What happens if the clothes they picked out are not Claie's style?  Never mind. she doesn't have one.

I notice that Jack's resting face looks like a fish out of water.

[MsMalin]

What bothered me about the Instant Boutique scene was them talking about Claire like she was a debutante coming out into GC society and she is a NEWMAN.

And what was up with all the diamond jewelry. Is this what the young women in GC wear to work now?:

Edited December 14 by MsMalin

[boes]

Now wasn't that special?  Granny Goldbricks had some lowly department store drones bring over oodles and uggles of goodies so Claire can look her part when she starts climbing her way to the top at Chancellor by starting at the top.  What an arduous climb it will be!

There's the look Granny was going for!  Impress those peasants. 

Victor is the most odious he's been in years.  Everyone kowtows to him, at least those unlucky enough to have a blood relationship to him and all that fawning makes them look pretty pathetic.  Claire, at least, stood her ground.  She also looked about as eager to spend time alone with him as she would a sewer line break. 

I'm wondering if Claire is going to be the victim of whatever Jordan and Uncle Festus are planning?  Are they going to do something that makes her choose between saving Nikki or some other Newman, or Kyle?  Will she then end up the victim?

Inquiring minds are barely interested.

One other thing from today's show.  I was disappointed, though not surprised, that Show ultimately made Lily go back to Winters, made it that the Boys Club ultimately knew what was best for the little lady.

May they all get a really bad case of jock itch. 

Edited December 14 by boes

[Sake614]

When Claire was looking over the clothes on the rack, all I could think was they looked like something Nikki would wear, not a 20 something year old woman. And when she came downstairs in that black thing? Is she going for the goth look? Is that the newest corporate attire? There was nothing wrong with her style when she worked for Nikki before, so maybe it’s her newfound status that’s ruined her.

[Waldo13]

It looks like Nikki forgot to brush her hair when she got dressed today.  Speaking of hair, Claire/Eve’s hair became much darker, to the point of being mousey brown, since she first appeared on the show.  

A make over for Claire/Eve with fugly old woman’s cloths. If I was Clair/Eve I would be offended that they don’t think her clothes are not appropriate enough to be a Newman.  

I thought that Audra swore off relationships. It didn’t take all that long for Audra to cling on to Natey Nate Nate.  

I really feel bad for Audra since she has no family business to fall back on like everyone else in GC. 

 

[Sake614]

13 minutes ago, Waldo13 said:

If I was Clair/Eve I would be offended that they don’t think her clothes are not appropriate enough to be a Newman.  

Have you seen the way she dresses lately? I’m surprised it took this long for them to stage an intervention!  That micro mini skirt she had on today certainly won’t cut it in an office. Then again, considering how every other woman in GC dresses for work, maybe it will. 🤷‍♀️

[NinjaPenguins]

I noticed Jack caught a virulent case of manspreading from his little brother. Dude, I know you’re feeling yourself since one upping Victor, but don’t let your legs be strangers.

Man, is there anything more entertaining than watching rich assholes bestow gifts on one another? Just a tacky, vulgar display by idiots with too much money and not enough class. Victor’s little talk with Claire about the evil, horrible Abbott family was not only blatant projection but struck me as a hamfisted attempt to add stakes to Claire’s and Kyle’s deadly dull relationship.

So Lily goes back to Winters while Nikki is positively giddy over her gift wrapped, unearned position. Sounds about right.

[ScoobieDoobs]

So wait, Sharon wants to get hypnotized by Alan, who's really Dead Martin?  Uh-oh, this may not end well . . .

Uh, couldn't those 2 have just taken Claire out shopping for desperately needed makeover clothes?  Woulda at least gotten them outta that depressing mausoleum!

Didn't Vic's little chat with Claire sound awfully threatening?  And yet, Claire, like all of Vic's kids (except maybe Adam), seemed to ignore his threatening tone when it comes to romantic partners.  Hmmm.

[MollyB]

Friday Rant:

• Viktor has exchanged a leather throne for his old wooden one in the New Old Raunch.  All the better for him to dictate to his underlings family.  There he sits, kiddoes, in the middle of the room delivering his proclamations.
• Why doesn't someone do a Workplace Clothing Intervention on Nick?  During working hours he looks as if he's going out to chop wood and herd sheep.  Of course, since we never see him in his own office, maybe he doesn't go to work at all.
• Didn't Claire have work clothes when she was working for Nikki before?  She did graduate from business school, right?  I'm sure there were courses about how to dress/comport oneself in an office environment.  Guess hers are out of style.  Goth Hooker is in.
• And on the subject of clothing, I am surprised that Lauren's boutique offerings did not include anything off the shoulder or in leopard print.
• What can I say about Phyllus that hasn't been said before.  Her self-righteousness is grating, her attacks on Sharon are borderline hysteria and I don't like anything about this character. The only bright spot is, maybe, just maybe, her lies about who ran her off the road will probably turn the case in Sharon's favor.
• Boring and Natasha are getting on my last nerve.  Explain the whole plot better, JG, (as in give us more background on why these two are together and what the hell they are trying to accomplish) or have them kill each other off.
• Claire's hair is starting to look like Victoria's.  And she is snagging an Abbott, too.  Following in Mom's footsteps?
• Stop with Viktor traipsing around town spitting venom at everyone.  Viktor, you have a big, brand new/old mansion (note: Latin root mansionem, "a staying or a remaining,) so stay the fuck outta GC.
• I get the foreshadowing of Ashley with her nightmares.  This hypnosis thing, which will inevitably be done in the Abbott living room, is going to out Dead Martin, isn't it?*  Poor Traci.

*Not a spoiler.

Edited December 13 by MollyB

[Foghorn Leghorn]

18 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

I think Lauren is beautiful; I hope she DOES NOT go the route Sharon did and freeze her face.  However, girl, altho the color of her dress was gorgeous, it was missing a sleeve.

Kidding right??!  Lauren has had more done to her face than just about any female on this soap!!  No wrinkles and no moving parts on her face!  

I was wondering what happened to the back of her hair.  The back was totally flat and there was a hole about halfway down…weird.  

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Aw, Lily and Devon hugged it out. Neil would be proud.

Nate: Audra, how would you feel about spending some time with my family?
Audra: do I open a vein before the meeting or afterward?

Michael warned Phyllis she could be charged with obstruction of justice. Pretty please?

Phyllis told Billy her fight with Lauren and Michael was just another "day in the life." Whose life, hon? Bane? Thanos? Dr. Evil? Melisandre?

Whatever, it reminded me of my favorite Beatles tune:

Whoa, Audra got pretty shook up by the Winters crew's talk of family connections. Maybe the show is finally going to tell us about her sketchy past. <fingers crossed>

I did not have Billy being the no-nonsense voice of reason against Phyllis on my Y&R Friday bingo card. Or Sally being so supportive. Hmm.

Re the previews: Alan/Martin vs. Sharon. Let's go!

[Waldo13]

Manic Phyllis🕷️ should be banned from CL but that’s another thing that won’t happen. I guess Manic Phyllis🕷️ expected Lauren to lie to her husband because of their “friendship”. Manic Phylls🕷️ is a natural born lier.  I know I’m beating a dead horse but Heather is not Lucy’s mother just like Summer❄️x7 is not Harrison’s mother.  At best, they are motherly.  

Let’s see, keeping Manic Phyllis🕷️ as a friend or defending Sharon. I’ll choose defending Sharon all day long.  

Devon’s story is what as know as “jumping the shark”. 

Kudos Audra for faking tears and getting sympathy from the Winters’ clan.  What a phony. 

Ask me if I give 2 fucks about Audra’s and Natey Nate Nates’s difunctional families.  Not one iota. 

  What’s worse than watching Manic Phyllis🕷️ running around and “chewing” up GC, is watching Sally and Lily placating her; but I wouldn’t expect anything less from Billy👃. 

 

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On 12/11/2024 at 2:14 AM, ScoobieDoobs said:

So anyone think the writers had a "plan" as to how the Sharon-killing-Heather storyline would go?  Cuz as I'm seeing Jordie & Ian arguing & blaming each other about their "grand plan" going wrong, I'm noticing the sloppiness of this storyline becoming more obvious. 

Jordie's & Ian's participation looks more & more like it was tacked on, way after they came up with the concept of Sharon-killing-Heather.  It's all sooo awkward & makes absolutely no sense.  And I suspect once we finally get the explanation of their involvement, it'll make even less sense.  Big fail on this one, Show.

Guess Show is putting the Ash-discovers-Dead-Martin storyline on the back-burner, so we can see more googly-eyed looks from Sharon & screaming hissy fits from Phyllis.  Where does that leave Traci?  Still gushing endlessly over Dead Martin?  And what's Ash to do?  Whine about nightmares & fuss over her new Mrs. Brady shag?  Wow, so many GC'ers with no jobs & nothing to do -- Ash, Billy, Lils, Audra, Phyllis, Daniel . . .

Hi everyone. Sorry to be away. I was annoyed with this page as it has so many advertisements it freezes a lot, but I decided to come back. 

Yes this storyline does seem sloppy. That Josh headwriter guy, who's last name I choose to forget because I don't like him said it was supposed to be a homage to Strangers on the Train, which I never seen but I understand it is where two criminals do each other's dirty work, so they can't get in trouble for their own crimes or the like. I guess Josh and co think these hijinks of Ian and Jordan are hilarious or entertaining. Somehow I think Jordan will end up killing Ian. As crazy as they both are, I think Jordan is worse if that's possible. 

I had enough crazy people on the scene for a while between real Cameron and hallucination Cameron, Jordan and Ian, I hope they spare us Dead Martin. 

On 12/10/2024 at 5:44 PM, Denize said:

Ha ha. And you didn't even mention the very dark sunglasses - indoors!  I'm surprised he could find his way to a seat without tripping over something. 

What was going on with Abby's hair?  It looked like she soaked it with some of Nikki's Easy-On Spray Starch and stuck her head in the Liberty Bell to set the bell shape. I like the length, but not the shape and papier mâché stiffness.

I'm guessing these two got their disguises in the dollar store. As we see how brilliant they are (not), they probably think these are amazing disguises. 

On 12/10/2024 at 5:52 PM, ScoobieDoobs said:

This shtick, that Show seems to do all the time, makes me nuts.  How can Jordie (and now Ian) clearly hear conversations from 15 feet (or more) away?  Even in some mostly empty joint, with no background music, it's still mostly impossible to do.  Oh yeah, I forgot, these 2 seniors have super-human powers.  

And that Nick & Mariah didn't notice the suspicious, creepy old dude, dressed all in black, wearing a dopey-looking fedora & dark sunglasses inside AND leaning over way too obviously to listen in on their convo?  Sheesh, that was so DUMB!  He looked like Boris Badenov.  Are we supposed to be laughing at the silliness & stupidity of this?  Sorry, Show, it's way more lame than funny.

I had to mute Phyllis cuz I just can't take her crazy rants anymore.  She really sounds like a lunatic around Sharon.  Can't Sharon get a restraining order on her & have her arrested if she comes near her again?  I can't take watching these repetitive, annoying rants.  Get something to do with your life, Phyllis!

Poor Audra has nothin' to do now except sit around, talking to Nate about his dull probs.  She has to know Devon ain't EVER gonna hire her.  Still puzzled what kind of a job she's gonna get when everyone in GC hates her guts.  Had to giggle when she seemed puzzled why nobody in GC wants to hire her.  Uh, maybe cuz ya back-stabbed everyone, hun?  Ya think?

What's with the shitty present Abby gave to Ash?  Did she say "I'll treasure it"?  Translation -- it'll go right in the trash after you leave.  Only (somewhat) interesting thing about Ash now is her Mrs. Brady shag, cuz otherwise she's a total snooze.  Yeah, Abby chopped her hair & it looks OK, but she's a snooze too, so who cares?

Ok, I get with the evidence Phyllis had to this point, it looks like Sharon is really guilty and she had a right to be angry at Sharon. Even so, her rants were so excessive. But now when she has the flashes of memory about the dark truck that is not Sharon's and hasn't let Michael tell her that Sharon is on drugs, or maybe he did and I FF through it and she chose to ignore it. Hard to feel sorry for her after all that. She can never be wrong and hear anyone else out. And i'm sick of her hypocrite stuff. And Michael was right. After all the crap she pulled this past year, him and Lauren stuck by her side. So ungrateful.

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On 12/10/2024 at 8:18 PM, Kimboweena said:

Well, Mariah did look around, confused, like she felt a disturbance in the force.  Nick asked what was wrong, she said she wasn't sure.  This was after Ian left.

Maybe Mariah and Claire should exchange notes. I think they are kind of friends? Maybe they can figure out who the real culprits are. 

On 12/11/2024 at 7:25 PM, Js Nana said:

Oh, there you go again, Waldo13, asking logical questions.

Quite the apt description of the lady.

Not that. 

On 12/11/2024 at 8:53 PM, Sake614 said:

Colleen did have tongue cancer while at ATWT. So maybe. I personally adore her but this ‘story’ and her OTT character is trying my nerves.

Agreed

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On 12/12/2024 at 10:39 AM, NinjaPenguins said:

You know what’s great? I am utterly charmed by how bereft of fucks Michael continues to be about Phyllis ending their friendship. Maybe he’s as exhausted as the rest of us by her traveling narcissistic roadshow and wing flappin’ jamboree. She’s really enjoying her impromptu public performances of Avenging Asshole Who Probably Couldn’t Pick Heather Out of a Lineup. Sharon gets the gold star of the day for suggesting Phyllis stay the fuck out of her coffee shop.

Victor doesn’t get that being able to admit to mistakes is a real show of strength. He looks like a pathetic clown claiming Jack got lucky. I want to dunk my head in bleach every time he mumbles about debauchery. I’m starting to think he suspects Nikki and Jack had a night of drunken sex but doesn’t have the mummified grapes to ask.

There is some compassion owed to Billy, regent of the rump rolls and prince of the posterior pastry. Imagine being passed over for a job for the likes of Kyle, a seething shit volcano of bitterness and chinless, formula-stealing dingleberry. Smaller egos would be crushed, but not so our duke of derrière dumplings. Nothing can slow his jaunty roll as he plots his vengeance against Victor. Honestly, I’d love to see him get it, but we know how the writing works.

 

I like how Michael put her in her place. Truthfully Billy should give her the cold shoulder and so should her kids. She needs to know her behavior won't be tolerated by anyone. But they all seem to come back to her.

On 12/12/2024 at 4:23 PM, Peppermint said:

Unpopular opinion here, but I kinda enjoy Jordan and Ian's campy comic relief scenes. It's like like they know this is their last hurrah on a Soap and are having the time of their lives. 

Now that we know that Jordan has a knife and isn't afraid to wield it, it's just a matter of time til this pair of crazy seniors have an unhinged difference of opinion, Jordan stabs Ian, who then pulls out an antique derringer from his waistcoat and shoots her. They will perish arguing that the one who dies last, wins. 

As to what their grand plan is....I don't give a Flying Fig and doubt that the writers do either. 

Unless Heather's death involves Daisy, the current plot makes about as much sense as Reva Shane's clone "Dolly".

I think Jordan will kill Ian but Victor will end up killing her. We will see.

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On 12/12/2024 at 5:02 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Lol, Audra doing the walk of shame down the stairs from Nate's bedroom. Oh wait, there was no shame in her game at all. I was so glad Audra brushed Devon's rudeness off.

Really? Like Claire is unable to dress herself? I can't with Nikki and Vikki. They could've just taken Claire shopping instead of making their huge self-aggrandizing statement with the surprise trove of clothes and jewelry.

Apparently Lily doesn't care much about her brother or cousin. She hadn't even told them she was back in GC from her trip, and she only lives a few feet from Nate.

Ugh, AFAIC Victor is utterly vile. Almost everything he said to Claire about the Abbotts has or can be applied to Newmans. Fortunately Claire didn't seem fazed by his loyalty test.

Kyle, let it go! Your parents conned YOU, not each other. Move forward, nepo boy, and stop trying to undermine your mommy with your daddy.

Audra, making a special effort to win over the Winters family is not the way you want to go. Ask Elena how well that worked out for her.

Kyle declared to Jack, "Nothing will ever happen to Claire." Oy, that must mean something truly horrible is in store for her.

Finally! Yeah, Lily realized her bills wouldn't pay themselves. And that no one else in town was gonna hire her but Devon, ha ha.

I actually like Audra as of late. Nate who I didn't like but like a lot again I think is a good influence on Audra because I think he likes her for herself, not using her in a transactional relationship, which Tucker and Kyle had. I think Noah probably wanted to marry her and have babies and it scared her off. 

Yeah we are spared Lily whining around town how Billy and  Jill let her down. 

Perfect setup for Ian's twofer deal with Mariah and Claire. 

On 12/12/2024 at 5:02 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Lol, Audra doing the walk of shame down the stairs from Nate's bedroom. Oh wait, there was no shame in her game at all. I was so glad Audra brushed Devon's rudeness off.

Really? Like Claire is unable to dress herself? I can't with Nikki and Vikki. They could've just taken Claire shopping instead of making their huge self-aggrandizing statement with the surprise trove of clothes and jewelry.

Apparently Lily doesn't care much about her brother or cousin. She hadn't even told them she was back in GC from her trip, and she only lives a few feet from Nate.

Ugh, AFAIC Victor is utterly vile. Almost everything he said to Claire about the Abbotts has or can be applied to Newmans. Fortunately Claire didn't seem fazed by his loyalty test.

Kyle, let it go! Your parents conned YOU, not each other. Move forward, nepo boy, and stop trying to undermine your mommy with your daddy.

Audra, making a special effort to win over the Winters family is not the way you want to go. Ask Elena how well that worked out for her.

Kyle declared to Jack, "Nothing will ever happen to Claire." Oy, that must mean something truly horrible is in store for her.

Finally! Yeah, Lily realized her bills wouldn't pay themselves. And that no one else in town was gonna hire her but Devon, ha ha.

Truthfully, as of late Claire's wardrobe was not great for the most part. So it was probably a good idea that they bought all of Fenmore's for Claire's private fashion show. They meant well at least. 

23 hours ago, boes said:

Now wasn't that special?  Granny Goldbricks had some lowly department store drones bring over oodles and uggles of goodies so Claire can look her part when she starts climbing her way to the top at Chancellor by starting at the top.  What an arduous climb it will be!

There's the look Granny was going for!  Impress those peasants. 

Victor is the most odious he's been in years.  Everyone kowtows to him, at least those unlucky enough to have a blood relationship to him and all that fawning makes them look pretty pathetic.  Claire, at least, stood her ground.  She also looked about as eager to spend time alone with him as she would a sewer line break. 

I'm wondering if Claire is going to be the victim of whatever Jordan and Uncle Festus are planning?  Are they going to do something that makes her choose between saving Nikki or some other Newman, or Kyle?  Will she then end up the victim?

Inquiring minds are barely interested.

One other thing from today's show.  I was disappointed, though not surprised, that Show ultimately made Lily go back to Winters, made it that the Boys Club ultimately knew what was best for the little lady.

May they all get a really bad case of jock itch. 

I missed your humor Boes.

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22 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

It looks like Nikki forgot to brush her hair when she got dressed today.  Speaking of hair, Claire/Eve’s hair became much darker, to the point of being mousey brown, since she first appeared on the show.  

A make over for Claire/Eve with fugly old woman’s cloths. If I was Clair/Eve I would be offended that they don’t think her clothes are not appropriate enough to be a Newman.  

I thought that Audra swore off relationships. It didn’t take all that long for Audra to cling on to Natey Nate Nate.  

I really feel bad for Audra since she has no family business to fall back on like everyone else in GC. 

 

And unlike the others Audra didn't have a family member, either a biological or adopted one who could help her. Doesn't Devon know if Neil and Dru didn't help him, he would have been kind of like Audra?

16 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

So wait, Sharon wants to get hypnotized by Alan, who's really Dead Martin?  Uh-oh, this may not end well . . .

Uh, couldn't those 2 have just taken Claire out shopping for desperately needed makeover clothes?  Woulda at least gotten them outta that depressing mausoleum!

Didn't Vic's little chat with Claire sound awfully threatening?  And yet, Claire, like all of Vic's kids (except maybe Adam), seemed to ignore his threatening tone when it comes to romantic partners.  Hmmm.

I like Claire held her own and kept her cool with Victor. But she knows that Victoria, Cole and Nikki have her back.