Luckylyn July 5, 2014 Share July 5, 2014 @xaxat shared this awesome breakdown of Micheal Bay's film style. It gave me an idea for a thread focusing on discussing certain shots, film styles, cinematography, editing, camera movement, digital vs. film etc... All genres a welcome for discussion. I remember a critic talking about the lack of stillness in a Micheal Bay movie. The shots are quick and there's always movement. If the actor isn't moving than the camera is. It's constant stimulation. I really hate how fights are shot in the Bourne movies because the camera moves too much. I feel like I can't see what's going on. I have respect for good fight choreography and so it bugs me the Bourne films won't let me actually properly see the fight. Are they hiding bad fight choreography or is it supposed to be more interesting shot in that chaotic way? I just want the camera to stay still so I can better absorb what I'm looking at. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/
VCRTracking July 5, 2014 Share July 5, 2014 (edited) I always love the one-point perspective shots in Stanley Kubrick movies: Edited July 5, 2014 by VCRTracking 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-178113
Rick Kitchen July 5, 2014 Share July 5, 2014 Rope. The whole film is shot as if it was all one take. Hitchcock managed to hide scene cuts, so it wasn't all done in one shot, but it looks that way. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-178120
ribboninthesky1 July 6, 2014 Share July 6, 2014 (edited) I really hate how fights are shot in the Bourne movies because the camera moves too much. I feel like I can't see what's going on. I have respect for good fight choreography and so it bugs me the Bourne films won't let me actually properly see the fight. Are they hiding bad fight choreography or is it supposed to be more interesting shot in that chaotic way? I just want the camera to stay still so I can better absorb what I'm looking at. I think Doug Liman shot the first film, and there wasn't that shaky cam stuff. I believe we have Paul Greengrass to thank for that, and for influencing other filmmakers to imitate the style. Edited July 6, 2014 by ribboninthesky1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-178377
Luckylyn July 6, 2014 Author Share July 6, 2014 The edits in Rope aren't noticeable. Speaking of Hitchcock he had a crane specially built so he could do that shot in Notorious where starts at the top of the stairs and zooms down to the key in Ingrid Bergman's hand. I have to mention the single tracking shot at the beginning of Touch of Evil. Goodfellas has that amazing single Steadicam shot. Serenity has a one shot opening with I think only one edit that isn't noticeable. They were forced to do the edit since different parts of the ship were on different sets. I have a ton of respect for camera men and actors who can pull off those long tracking shots. One error and they have to start over. I love directors who are willing to do it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-178390
VCRTracking July 6, 2014 Share July 6, 2014 (edited) A long but insightful and often very funny lecture by Garrett Brown, the inventor of the steadicam who also operated it on many major films like the Rocky movies, The Shining, Return of the Jedi, etc. Edited July 6, 2014 by VCRTracking Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-178630
Rick Kitchen July 6, 2014 Share July 6, 2014 Alfonso Cuaron went crazy with long, one-take shots in Children of Men. Here's a small documentary on how he did it (about 7 minutes): This is the car scene: And here's the bomb scene: 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-179469
VCRTracking July 8, 2014 Share July 8, 2014 And the part during the car scene where blood splattered on the camera was an accident they decided to keep! At San Diego Comic-Con, during Warner Bros presentation of Gravity in Hall H, the Mexican auteur revealed how the shot almost didn’t happen. He explained that, over the course of the 12 days they took to film that scene, they kept missing it again and again. There were accidents, problems with the location, and the camera operator fell down. Finally, on the final day, during one attempt Cuarón yelled, “Cut,” because fake blood spattered on the camera. But no one heard him because of all the explosions and gunfire, so the production kept going. This was the take that ended up in final film. He calls the blood splash a “miracle.” http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/alfonso-cuarn-calls-iconic-scene-children-men-happy-accident.html Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-183550
Jamoche July 11, 2014 Share July 11, 2014 (edited) Here's an in-depth analysis of Michael Bay's main trick, why it works even when everything around it sucks, and when it doesn't: Edited July 11, 2014 by Jamoche Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-192363
VCRTracking July 12, 2014 Share July 12, 2014 That was in the very first post. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-193803
Jamoche July 12, 2014 Share July 12, 2014 That was in the very first post. Oops :) Embedded videos are kind of flaky, most of this thread is big white space for me - even the one I added. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-193855
VCRTracking July 18, 2014 Share July 18, 2014 (edited) Tom Hooper's style: Love it? or Hate it? I first noticed his odd framing choices and frequent use of close ups shot with a wide angle lens in The King's Speech("Why are they showing so much wallpaper?") I didn't really mind at the time because it kept it from looking like the typical Masterpiece Theater period piece. When Les Miserables that's when everybody started commenting on it. I think it works in scenes like Anne Hathaway's big moment as Fantine singing "I Dreamed a Dream", but the rest of the movie it's overused. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyQ-0JOF1Qk Edited July 18, 2014 by VCRTracking Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-210959
AimingforYoko July 18, 2014 Share July 18, 2014 AV Club breaks down an important scene in All The President's Men. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-211294
FormerMod-a1 May 16, 2015 Share May 16, 2015 This seems to be the best place for this article. I have to say I never really thought about it too much other than feeling CGI-ed out, but I think this article makes sense. 6 Reasons Modern Movie CGI Looks Surprisingly Crappy 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-1152444
Bastet May 16, 2015 Share May 16, 2015 I love this line about color grading: For the life of my family, I can't fucking figure out why anyone would want to watch a movie that's filtered to look like someone refusing to remove their Ray-Bans. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-1153759
Joe June 1, 2015 Share June 1, 2015 A look at the shooting and editing of Mad Max, with video. The short version, he put the most important thing in each shot right in the centre, and moved the camera to keep it there. Right where people are looking. Nifty idea, I hope it catches on. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-1200192
Princess Sparkle June 8, 2015 Share June 8, 2015 I think Doug Liman shot the first film, and there wasn't that shaky cam stuff. I believe we have Paul Greengrass to thank for that, and for influencing other filmmakers to imitate the style. I think you're correct about that, because one thing I distinctly remember liking about the first Bourne movie is how you can see all the action easily - the fight scene with the pen is particularly well-shot. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-1223321
Luckylyn June 27, 2015 Author Share June 27, 2015 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-1277598
Oreo2234 June 28, 2015 Share June 28, 2015 (edited) I think Doug Liman shot the first film, and there wasn't that shaky cam stuff. I believe we have Paul Greengrass to thank for that, and for influencing other filmmakers to imitate the style. He did. I liked the sequels but I prefer Liman's style. Edited June 28, 2015 by Oreo2234 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-1278071
Shannon L. August 20, 2015 Share August 20, 2015 This is more about Benedict Cumberbatch's performance, but it also shows a lot of the technique in the voice acting and animation of a creature. It's think it's impressive....and exhausting! Benedict Cumberbatch Might Actually Be Part Dragon, As This Motion Capture Footage Shows 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-1431320
Luckylyn June 30, 2016 Author Share June 30, 2016 I just saw this fantastic analysis of the Ava sessions in Ex Machina. Don't watch if you haven't seen it yet because there are a lot of spoilers. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-2371084
Rick Kitchen June 30, 2016 Share June 30, 2016 Great analysis, awesome movie, by three talented actors. Alex Garland is currently working on Annihilation, starring Natalie Portman, Oscar Isaac, Gina Rodriguez, and Jennifer Jason Leigh (and Tessa Thompson, with whom I fell in love in Creed). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-2371685
Shannon L. July 14, 2016 Share July 14, 2016 I can anyone is interested in what grips do: 'Grip It Good': A Short Film about Grips, the Unsung Heroes of the Film Industry Runs: 11 minutes 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-2405125
Luckylyn July 31, 2016 Author Share July 31, 2016 A.I. Artificial Intelligence - the significance of Teddy (film analysis) - spoilers, I always think one of the reasons this movie seems disliked is that David is not rootable but is quite disturbing. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-2448137
Rick Kitchen July 31, 2016 Share July 31, 2016 No, I refuse to watch. AI makes me cry. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-2448187
Luckylyn August 9, 2016 Author Share August 9, 2016 Film Breakdown - Goodfellas Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-2470854
Silver Raven October 15, 2016 Share October 15, 2016 This is a really good analysis of what makes an entertaining scene. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-2652956
Luckylyn October 15, 2016 Author Share October 15, 2016 (edited) Analysis of After Hours. It's such a wonderful but odd film. @Silver Raven posted this great analysis of directing technique in comedies Edited October 15, 2016 by Luckylyn Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-2654045
Trini October 16, 2016 Share October 16, 2016 I think the source material (comic book) helped, but there was a ton of visual comedy in Scott Pilgrim. Some of my favorite scenes were the ones that had a visual punchline for a joke. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-2655168
Luckylyn May 20, 2017 Author Share May 20, 2017 (edited) Analysis of the editing in Suicide Squad I wanted to recommend Chez Lindsay's youtube page. She's done a ton of analysis of various movies and film topics. She's currently in the middle of an analysis of the Transformers franchise. Edited May 20, 2017 by Luckylyn 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-3298547
Silver Raven June 14, 2017 Share June 14, 2017 The Film Theorists (which I highly recommend, excellent channel) discusses Robert Zemeckis's blocking in Back to the Future. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-3372763
Luckylyn June 14, 2017 Author Share June 14, 2017 5 hours ago, Silver Raven said: The Film Theorists (which I highly recommend, excellent channel) discusses Robert Zemeckis's blocking in Back to the Future. Really interesting. I also appreciated what they said about a director who knows how to use the actors body language to convey information and not just relying on dialogue. It made me think of the movie The Big Chill where there are multiple scenes where body language is used really elequently. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-3373034
Captain Carrot June 15, 2017 Share June 15, 2017 On 5/20/2017 at 10:58 AM, Luckylyn said: I wanted to recommend Chez Lindsay's youtube page. She's done a ton of analysis of various movies and film topics. She's currently in the middle of an analysis of the Transformers franchise. This is my favorite of her Transformers posts (so far). For anyone that is interested in why Bay's action scenes are so confusing and forgettable. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-3375494
Luckylyn June 21, 2017 Author Share June 21, 2017 Cuts & Transitions 101 Scott Pilgrim: Make Your Transitions Count 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-3391410
Silver Raven June 21, 2017 Share June 21, 2017 Edgar Wright is a boss. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-3391501
Luckylyn July 3, 2017 Author Share July 3, 2017 How David Lynch Manipulates You Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-3426528
Luckylyn July 14, 2017 Author Share July 14, 2017 (edited) Game of Thrones - How to Evoke Emotion Ex Machina — The Control of Information (good exploration of showing vs. telling and creative exposition) Edited July 14, 2017 by Luckylyn Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-3458004
Luckylyn August 13, 2018 Author Share August 13, 2018 Interesting analysis of Zach Synder’s focus on big moments at the expense of story and character development 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-4579904
Luckylyn August 25, 2018 Author Share August 25, 2018 This video captures my issues with shaky cam, fast cut action sequences I really appreciated the fight choreography and how it was filmed in John Wick Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-4619850
dusang August 28, 2018 Share August 28, 2018 Vanity Fair has a series called "Notes on a Scene" They have a variety of behind the scenes people (directors, costume designers, stunt coordinators, etc.) breaking down a single scene. Here's one with the delightful Taika Waititi. Also, potential spoiler alert for Thor: Ragnarok. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-4628540
Shannon L. February 6, 2019 Share February 6, 2019 A 6 minute video on making the sound effects for A Quiet Place 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-5036207
Luckylyn February 10, 2019 Author Share February 10, 2019 Searching - Reformatting the Thriller Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-5043103
Shannon L. March 11, 2019 Share March 11, 2019 Some Mad Max chase scenes without the CGI. Pretty wild: 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-5118934
Silver Raven November 4, 2019 Share November 4, 2019 Sam Mendes on how 1917 was made to look like it was filmed in one shot. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-5726260
Silver Raven December 8, 2019 Share December 8, 2019 Knives Out cameraman Steve Yedlin explains how their lighting people were able to avoid light reflections on the eyeglasses on the actors. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-5796145
Silver Raven December 8, 2019 Share December 8, 2019 Deep Fake. Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio in The Room. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-5797153
Luckylyn February 11, 2020 Author Share February 11, 2020 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-5929893
Luckylyn March 26, 2020 Author Share March 26, 2020 Parasite perfect montage Parasite director breaks down opening scene Exploring visual language in Parasite Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-6027189
Luckylyn May 11, 2020 Author Share May 11, 2020 1917’s In Camera Editing Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-6118668
Luckylyn August 23, 2020 Author Share August 23, 2020 Maggie Mae Fish is analyzing Zach Synder in a multi-part series. One thing I noticed about his work is that he stresses visuals over character development. She’s pointing out things I had not already considered. It’s interesting to watch. Part 1 - Superman Saves the Cat Part 2 - We’re Already Dead Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/10393-breaking-down-the-shot/#findComment-6304265
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