Carlin and Evan: But Mostly Carlin!

[Notabug]

2 hours ago, Absolom said:

Been there done that and had them both, but I have mother with an inheritable cardiac condition and I have an abnormal EKG most of the time.   I'm wondering now about how histrionic she has to be to keep getting all these tests ordered and who is paying for them.  My insurance would be getting balky by this point without some objective findings warranting it all.  If they're paying for it out of pocket surely it's beginning to pinch.  

As long as it meets their diagnostic criteria, ie the coding is correct, insurance companies will cover without a squawk, especially with orders from specialists.  It does depend on the test, though, and how much it costs.  MRI's are tougher to get approved by insurance than CT scans or other cheaper imaging.  

Also, Carlin is young and has puzzling symptoms which COULD be related to an obscure condition that will require a lot of diagnostics.  Any decision made by an insurance company can be appealed; usually it is done physician to physician and, yes, those conversations often do include info such as the patient is demanding and used to have a TV show and is now posting everything on social media.  Many insurers would approve testing if only because it is cheaper than the bad PR Carlin could generate.

As far as FMLA, I would imagine neurologists are faced with signing them all the time for patients who are incapacitated in some form.  At the time Carlin and Evan requested it, they had barely started the workup, Carlin was supposedly having multiple episodes daily and they were calling the squad on a regular basis.  Signing the FMLA is a no brainer at that point and it automatically runs for up to 12 weeks.  Most people are more honest and have a stronger work ethic than Carlin and Evan and they also need the income; so using the FMLA for an extended summer vacation as they have is really not a possibility for most people.

[3 is enough]

36 minutes ago, SMama said:

I could bemistaken but I thought their Italian stove was $3500. The sofa with white covers was rumored to be almost $10,000. Still a heck of a lot of money spent without a care in the world. 

You are correct.  I got mixed up with the couch. I think the stove might have been closer to $5000.  And then there was the $1200 necklace for Whitney.  

[So unbelievable]

Can someone please help me?  Alyssa has a heart issue.  If Carlin actually had a heart issue like Alyssa, I'm sure they would have found it by now, right?
Also, I have 2 things I've been thinking.  First, my cousin has long term Covid troubles and has trouble with getting dizzy, shortness of breath etc.  However, she stays at home and takes care of herself and works from home. They are still testing her for other issues as well. 

Second, I think she take such shit care of herself, that could be it too.  Almost like an eating disorder.  She eats for shit and it doesn't seem that often.  Maybe that's what is causing her to pass out.  When I was much younger, I didn't eat/starved myself and passed out due to that.  Maybe she is too.  Anorexia can cause seizures. 

[cereality]

51 minutes ago, Notabug said:

FMLA, I would imagine neurologists are faced with signing them all the time for patients who are incapacitated in some form.  At the time Carlin and Evan requested it, they had barely started the workup, Carlin was supposedly having multiple episodes daily and they were calling the squad on a regular basis.  Signing the FMLA is a no brainer at that point and it automatically runs for up to 12 weeks.  Most people are more honest and have a stronger work ethic than Carlin and Evan and they also need the income; so using the FMLA for an extended summer vacation as they have is really not a possibility for most people.

The FMLA papers were signed in Nashville at the very beginning and then it made sense. She had started having scary episodes out of the blue, no one knew what it was, and they had to go to the hospital ASAP each time. Back then Evan was even saying that he didn’t have time off but maybe his family could watch her and he could go to work during the week so he didn’t have to go on unpaid status. I have a feeling his parents said no to that. As much as they help, I have a feeling that they were overwhelmed at the idea of being alone with 2 babies + a DIL having scary episodes who’d they’d have to get to the hospital ASAP while managing the kids. I have a feeling his parents - back then - said they’d help 100% but he had to be there too so they could tag team. That’d be enough to get drs to sign off on FMLA - the only family that can watch her right this moment in this city is my retiree parents and they don’t feel like can manage her + an infant + a toddler without me. Of course any dr would be like yeah that’s a lot, plan on being home from work for a while.

Now the drs don’t force you to use the entire 12 weeks if you can make other arrangements like daycare/nanny/her family. And frankly after about week 3 when she was on meds and things were more managed, I feel like his parents then would’ve been like yeah we can keep her here + the 2 kids, go back to work 4-5 days/wk. I just feel like maybe they couldn’t do it initially when all hell was breaking lose. Yet the Stewarts decided once 12 wks was signed, he was taking all 12 — no going back to work for the 6 wks in the middle that were better etc.

[Cinnabon]

5 hours ago, Tdoc72 said:

Last week I watched a couple of old episodes and was thinking that Carlin has really toned it down. She was so obnoxious in them. 
 

I think I agree w/your diagnosis. I can’t see a doctor ordering the 3 day test (which was probably $$$) or signing FMLA papers if something wasn’t actually wrong. Plus some drama. Some of their stuff might have been impulsive, but I bet the beach vacation and work trip to Vegas were planned. 

A doctor’s opinion is not necessary when applying for FMLA unless the employer specifically asks for one, and many don’t.

“The FMLA does not require workers to use specific language when giving notice. Employees must simply provide enough information to demonstrate that the reason for leave is covered by the FMLA. If the reason is unclear, the employer may request written proof in the form of a certification from the treating healthcare provider. “
 

https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/labor-employment-law/time-off-from-work/do-i-need-a-doctors-note-to-take-fmla-leave.html

Edited August 16, 2022 by Cinnabon

[Cinnabon]

4 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

I remember LOTS of eyelids being batted when Zach left the force. But amongst his peers? He was probably lauded. 🙄

 But aren’t these people who claim to “back the blue” and fetishize law enforcement?

[GeeGolly]

According to Evan an MD told him Carlin should have someone within 5' of her at all times, thus his need for FMLA.  Then when it was noticed he was never around when Carlin fainted, he changed his excuse to he needed to drive her around. Other than not working and Carlin not driving, they have done nothing to change their routine. Carlin still walks through parking lots rather than be dropped near the entrance and she still continues to carry her babies around. Evan is almost always seen walking in front of her.

I don't know how the Destin vaca and the trip to LV could have been preplanned when Evan had stated he had used up all his PTO - the Destin trip was just a few weeks after he said that, which certainly isn't enough time to build up a week of PTO.

According to the Stewarts, Keppra seems to be improving Carlin's episodes, so one would assume she is having seizures and not just fainting. When on Keppra, Carlin says she now can feel a seizure coming on. Is this typical of being on Keppra? Nothing I quickly read about it says it allows patients to notice the onset of a seizure.

As far as I can see, standing/walking in the presence of others seems to be the only common factors in Carlin's episodes and I wonder why no other patterns have revealed themselves three month into whatever is going on.

[BitterApple]

7 hours ago, So unbelievable said:

Second, I think she take such shit care of herself, that could be it too.  Almost like an eating disorder.  She eats for shit and it doesn't seem that often.  Maybe that's what is causing her to pass out.  When I was much younger, I didn't eat/starved myself and passed out due to that.  Maybe she is too.  Anorexia can cause seizures. 

I think you're right. Carlin is incredibly weight and size conscious. When she was pregnant with Zade she made a huge deal about having to size up from a 0 to a 2 for her bridesmaid dress for Katie's wedding. I remember her also lamenting she could no longer fit into her size 27 jeans. Michael recently talked about struggling with body image her entire life, so I do think there's tons of pressure on these girls to be the "hot wife" at all times.

FWIW, I think Evan would love Carlin and think she's beautiful regardless of her weight, I think any negative messages she's internalized are due to her cult upbringing. 

[Notabug]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

According to Evan an MD told him Carlin should have someone within 5' of her at all times, thus his need for FMLA.  Then when it was noticed he was never around when Carlin fainted, he changed his excuse to he needed to drive her around. Other than not working and Carlin not driving, they have done nothing to change their routine. Carlin still walks through parking lots rather than be dropped near the entrance and she still continues to carry her babies around. Evan is almost always seen walking in front of her.

I don't know how the Destin vaca and the trip to LV could have been preplanned when Evan had stated he had used up all his PTO - the Destin trip was just a few weeks after he said that, which certainly isn't enough time to build up a week of PTO.

According to the Stewarts, Keppra seems to be improving Carlin's episodes, so one would assume she is having seizures and not just fainting. When on Keppra, Carlin says she now can feel a seizure coming on. Is this typical of being on Keppra? Nothing I quickly read about it says it allows patients to notice the onset of a seizure.

Yes, the conflicting stories of Evan's magical PTO vanishing and then reappearing as well as the various explanations/excuses as to why he is unable to work are a big part of the reason so many of us think there is something rotten in Denmark with them.  Well, that, and the fact that what they say and what they do, based on their own online documentation; are clearly at odds.  

Keppra would not be expected to help Carlin sense an episode starting.  However, as others here with seizure disorders, fainting spells and other issues will attest; as time goes on and the number of incidents rises, the person involved  often becomes more sensitive to the cues and sensations that precede the event.  It could be that Carlin just didn't realize she was having prodromal symptoms at first, but, now, after having had them a lot; she has figured out what certain sensations mean for her.

I had a friend who had temporal lobe seizures from a brain tumor.  He would stare into space and one side of his body would tremble for a minute or two.  After a while, he could tell when it was coming.  He was a surgeon and he would just say, 'I need to step back, I'm going to have a seizure' and would put down the instruments, step back from the table, have the seizure and step back to the table and continue when it was over.  He didn't pass out or fall to the floor, obviously.  He was also a resident, so there was always an attending physician in the OR with him. I asked him how he knew, what he felt and he shrugged and said it was just a feeling that came over him, he just knew it was coming.  Some people will smell something strange (burning rubber seems to be common) or hear something like a a siren or even have flashing lights in their vision; but it isn't always that obvious.

Edited August 16, 2022 by Notabug

[Absolom]

9 hours ago, Notabug said:

As long as it meets their diagnostic criteria, ie the coding is correct, insurance companies will cover without a squawk, especially with orders from specialists.  It does depend on the test, though, and how much it costs.  MRI's are tougher to get approved by insurance than CT scans or other cheaper imaging.  

It was an MRI that I had to appeal the insurance decision.  They heard my mom in the background going tell them I'm going to sue if you die because they wouldn't approve an MRI.  I want the person's name denying this. Suddenly it was fine.  I changed insurance companies the next open season and have had no problems since. That one wouldn't approve an out of network urgent care for my daughter with pneumonia until I said fine we'll just go to the ER at Children's.  

I guess at this point Carlin seems quite happy doing all these tests.  Food for SM posting.  She is baffling.

[GeeGolly]

Notice the caption.

[Tdoc72]

7 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I don't know how the Destin vaca and the trip to LV could have been preplanned when Evan had stated he had used up all his PTO - the Destin trip was just a few weeks after he said that, which certainly isn't enough time to build up a week of PTO.

It seems reasonable that the beach trip could have been planned before he used all of his PTO. It seemed like a planned & coordinated trip w/Zac’s family & 2 of her babysitting sisters in the height of the summer season at a place directly on the beach. IIRC he used the last of his PTO before getting the FMLA (before they knew this would be a longer term problem.). So maybe he had a week of vacation saved to use then and then they didn’t cancel and went anyway. 
The Vegas trip was short and maybe either he planned to take 2-3 days off (either PTO or not) or wasn’t planning to go and decided to since he was off. 
With them, anything is possible. 

[Cinnabon]

Didn’t he say right before Carlin gave birth that he only had a few days of vacation time, so he was only able to take a week off work? Is he confusing PTO with FLMA leave? It seemed to me that he didn’t have much, if any, PTO left when his FLMA leave started.

[Tdoc72]

3 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

Didn’t he say right before Carlin gave birth that he only had a few days of vacation time, so he was only able to take a week off work? Is he confusing PTO with FLMA leave? It seemed to me that he didn’t have much, if any, PTO left when his FLMA leave started.

No. He was still in school and could only miss a certain number of days. He said he saved those so he could use them after she had the baby. No idea if they were PTO or not. 

Edited August 16, 2022 by Tdoc72

[Peanut6711]

While I don't know what the docs will diagnoses Carlin with heath wise, lifestyle wise it's clear they suffer from Piss Poor Planning.   We know they stopped using birth control and were trying to have Zade, yet given that Evan was at the end of his school time and so close to graduation, it would have made a lot more sense to have planned for a second baby after Evan graduated. Same with the house purchase. They bought at one of the highest price points of the market, at the same time as the arrival of baby #2, and while Evan was trying to finish schooling. Spacing all of these events out would have made a lot more sense, less stress, and optimal use of Evan's available time off. 

[cereality]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Notice the caption.

They're letting Evan's job status be known and hoping that their leghumpers/critics just leave it alone and they never have to address it directly. Though if they do hey - not so bad - that's at least a half a YT video about Evan prattling on about needing to be with Carlin and his kids in this season of life and Carlin crying along about how much she loves him.

Not that any adult goes to work to fit in or make friends, but I 100% think Evan was not cut out to be in the skilled trades working with manly guys and is far more comfortable being social media director sipping on Sbux all day with a bunch of ladies chatting about dresses. His only other job prior to electrician school was at a medical office reception desk - all women coworkers - and if you look at his old IG pics, he looks plenty happy at work. I believe he's said before his dad is a retired plumber. I have a feeling dad was putting it in the sons' heads all along that if they weren't going to go to college, the skilled trades would provide a nice living when it was time to take a wife and have kids; his newlywed brother is also in electrician school. [Not saying dad was wrong and not mocking hard working skilled tradesmen in any way. Lord knows we need them more than the world needs another freaking IG influencer.]

During school though there was more than one instance where Evan would be eating dinner in his car and FaceTiming Carlin and Layla. He couldn't deal with 2 nights/wk of being at school late w/o his kid? And let's be real Layla has no bedtime and was still up when he got home at 9 pm. And even if he did need to call to check in, wouldn't most guys do that in 3 min and then go eat dinner in the break room with everyone else? I'm thinking he has zero in common with these guys. While they're at work being like can't wait to get home, crack open a beer and watch X game, I can imagine Evan being like - ah can't wait to shower and slip into my $100 Cuts joggers, these work pants and boots are so uncomfortable, hey did I tell you my wife gets my $100 Cuts pants for free, they're so soft against my ass, you should get some using my wife's code, they'd only cost you $80. As the other guys are like WTH is wrong with this prissy boy??!

Edited August 16, 2022 by cereality

[Jeanne222]

Zack has really put on the weight and Evan seems a bit chubby too. 

Those two guys look silly in that ladies dress shop sucking on Starbucks!

Aren’t they the headships  or whatever they call the man?

 I’d love to hear what the other guys have to say about these two!

[Salacious Kitty]

23 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Zack has really put on the weight and Evan seems a bit chubby too. 

Those two guys look silly in that ladies dress shop sucking on Starbucks!

Aren’t they the headships  or whatever they call the man?

 I’d love to hear what the other guys have to say about these two!

I agree, they appear totally emasculated. I suppose they assert their MANHOOD in different ways. 🙄

[3 is enough]

Well we know Lawson can’t really say anything since it seems Tiffany is supporting him. 🙄

[Salacious Kitty]

16 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

Well we know Lawson can’t really say anything since it seems Tiffany is supporting him. 🙄

Forgot about the biggest fraud of them all. 😂

[cereality]

Man they're really projecting an image of how hard they're working. Carlin posted an IG of them having a "business meeting" at Z&W's house at 7 pm. Whit looks totally checked out and is talking to the oldest boy, and Carlin is sure to pan over to Zach and Evan both on their laptops. I'm sure they're getting a ton done with 6 kids screaming in the background. And Evan can be heard telling Layla to get off the $10,000 white couch bc she has chocolate on her outfit - he didn't say the price but lol Whit fantastic move spending that much on a pricey WHITE couch with young kids in the home [yeah it's washable blah blah but stains never disappear entirely no matter how washable anything is]. Though at least it's good that Evan has the instinct to tell his kid no, you cannot destroy anyone else's stuff. The Bates def were not raised that way - they were raised to destroy it and then laugh and they still do that as grown adults at Mama Janes.

And geez Zach is sporting a significant gut and even with Evan you can def see the double chin/thick neck emerging. I imagine sitting around at the dress shop all day eating fast food and drinking coffees that are actually desserts and following it up with more fast food for dinner [at least for Evan/Carlin] isn't helping. Somehow I don't see these two manly men lugging boxes or unloading the trucks - I imagine they pitch in for 10 min with that stuff every few weeks and then their staff has to finish it.

As for what the other guys are thinking - I bet Gil is "proud" as that man's motto is grift any way you can and don't get off your ass and work a real job. Even if that means horning in your wife's small business, she should be glad you're home with her 24-7. I imagine Kelton [and Josie's] disdain for Evan and Carlin has only grown; both couples are comparative and I'm willing to bet when it's just them K&J have a lot to say re hahahahah he's working for his wife's dress shop, didn't even launch his career, look at me I have my own business with 15 guys working for me etc.

Edited August 17, 2022 by cereality

[BitterApple]

cereality, interesting when you brought up Evan not fitting in at work. I remember that time Evan and Carlin went to visit Joy and Austin. I definitely consider Austin to be a "guy's guy" and Evan was sooooo awkward and uncomfortable around him it was painful to watch. I agree it doesn't  make Evan less of a man if he's not into four-wheeling and shooting guns, but he definitely seems like someone who just vibes better with women. 

[GeeGolly]

I'm not into male/female roles, but I know Fundies are. I'm guessing Whitney and Carlin are happy to leave all financial decisions to Zach and giggle their way through "sourcing" clothes. Zach's job likely takes five hours a month. I have no idea what Whitney and Carlin do when they're at the warehouse, other than touch clothing and model their products, since they have staff that handle everything else.

If Evan comes on as the media guy, he will have the most to do, but even that would only be a few hours a week.

There are a few select families spawned from the Bates and Duggars who have yet to be hit with real life.

[ozziemom]

Speaking of Joy and Austin, is Joy not Carlin’s bestie anymore? No sign of visits by either one, and Carlin shares everything so we would have heard about it. She has referred to Whit as her best friend recently and Joy seems to be busy with the RHOMC, so perhaps they aren’t as close as they used to be. It happens.

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, ozziemom said:

Speaking of Joy and Austin, is Joy not Carlin’s bestie anymore? No sign of visits by either one, and Carlin shares everything so we would have heard about it. She has referred to Whit as her best friend recently and Joy seems to be busy with the RHOMC, so perhaps they aren’t as close as they used to be. It happens.

I think they're both Carlin's "best friends". Carlin has been close to Whit from the get go and even attended the first two (or 3) births. Joy and her have been 'friends' since birth, but yea, the last time they've seen each other seems to be shortly after Zade's birth.

[ginger90]

[Notabug]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I'm not into male/female roles, but I know Fundies are. I'm guessing Whitney and Carlin are happy to leave all financial decisions to Zach and giggle their way through "sourcing" clothes. Zach's job likely takes five hours a month. I have no idea what Whitney and Carlin do when they're at the warehouse, other than touch clothing and model their products, since they have staff that handle everything else.

If Evan comes on as the media guy, he will have the most to do, but even that would only be a few hours a week.

There are a few select families spawned from the Bates and Duggars who have yet to be hit with real life.

Their jobs would only take a few hours a week until you factor in the chaos and confusion because they have their kids with them all the time when they are supposedly working as well as the frequent breaks for Starbucks runs and fast food.  Once you include that, they end up spending a lot more time than most people to accomplish their tasks.

It seems the 4 of them sit around 'working' while the kids run wild in the same room.  If they really had important things to accomplish and actual work to do, then you would expect they would either find some paid childcare or take turns watching the kids someplace else while the others worked.  They don't separate their 'jobs' from their regular lives like most of us do which is why they think they are working so darned hard at the business when it's pretty obvious that they aren't working anywhere near full time and their effort is minimal at best.

Edited August 17, 2022 by Notabug

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I'm not into male/female roles, but I know Fundies are. I'm guessing Whitney and Carlin are happy to leave all financial decisions to Zach and giggle their way through "sourcing" clothes. Zach's job likely takes five hours a month. I have no idea what Whitney and Carlin do when they're at the warehouse, other than touch clothing and model their products, since they have staff that handle everything else.

If Evan comes on as the media guy, he will have the most to do, but even that would only be a few hours a week.

There are a few select families spawned from the Bates and Duggars who have yet to be hit with real life.

Yes, I have no idea why they need to pay staff to do the bulk of the work, when most of these people don’t have other jobs.

[Jeanne222]

2 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

Yes, I have no idea why they need to pay staff to do the bulk of the work, when most of these people don’t have other jobs.

You read my mind!  Staff for the four of them that have no jobs?😳

 I guess now I’ve truly heard it all!  😜

[ginger90]

 

screenshot from a video 

Edited August 17, 2022 by ginger90

[GeeGolly]

Now she can't be home alone??? Why? She can't hang out on the couch for an hour or two alone? And where is sweet blonde gal friend?

But really what I should be saying is, a family outing as opposed to what - they always travel as a pack.

[ozziemom]

3 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Now she can't be home alone??? Why? She can't hang out on the couch for an hour or two alone? And where is sweet blonde gal friend?

But really what I should be saying is, a family outing as opposed to what - they always travel as a pack.

Maybe Evan doesn’t grocery shop so there must be an explanation provided as why he is pushing a grocery cart. 

[GeeGolly]

10 minutes ago, ozziemom said:

Maybe Evan doesn’t grocery shop so there must be an explanation provided as why he is pushing a grocery cart. 

Well its 13 weeks and 6 days from Lawson's wedding so surely Evan's FMLA has run out. Like some other poster mentioned, these stories are likely leading up to their weekly YT video announcing that Evan has resigned, or taken a leave of absence from work. I'm sure they'll avoid the word quit.

[ginger90]

[Notabug]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Now she can't be home alone??? Why? She can't hang out on the couch for an hour or two alone? And where is sweet blonde gal friend?

But really what I should be saying is, a family outing as opposed to what - they always travel as a pack.

That is just baloney any way you slice it.  How long does grocery shopping take?  There's no reason why Carlin cannot be home by herself for an hour or so.  There are actual people out there who have multiple seizures daily who manage to cope for brief periods on their own.

It's pretty clear they're paving the way for Evan's Great Resignation.  The lies are becoming just a little too obvious, though.  Makes me think the 'no more than 5 feet away' rule was not exactly what the doctor said, either.

[floridamom]

Once again Evan does not have his eyes on Carlin. Why is he pushing the shopping cart? Wouldn't it be safer if Carlin had her hands on the handle and was pushing it with Evan behind HER keeping an eye on her? I agree that she could have stayed home by herself a bit or called on her MOTHER to maybe stop by for the time Evan was out. These two are sad. If Carlin does have some underlying medical condition going on and it's not anxiety from real life; home alone with 2 kids, a new house, mortgage; husband actually leaving her every morning to go to W.O.R.K. these two are not taking care of her or of the family in general. It seems to me that their lifestyle is hectic and unorganized...and noisy. Not good for anyone, really.  Your comments here are great!

Little Layla sure is growing into her looks. She is a cute little girl. Her mother needs grammar lessons. What an awful post.

[ginger90]

The goal wasn’t even grocery shopping. They were walking around waiting for the oil to be changed in their vehicle. They bought some stuff, then went for manicures. 

Edited August 17, 2022 by ginger90

[Jeanne222]

8 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

Yes, I have no idea why they need to pay staff to do the bulk of the work, when most of these people don’t have other jobs.

You read my mind!  Staff for the four of them that have no jobs?😳

 I guess now I’ve truly heard it all!  😜

[Notabug]

15 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

The goal wasn’t even grocery shopping. They were walking around waiting for the oil to be changed in their vehicle. They bought some stuff, then went for manicures. 

And taking a toddler for a professional manicure is a waste of time and money.  No reason Carlin couldn't have found a bottle of polish at the Dollar Store and done the kid's nails herself.

What sort of vehicle do they own or what kind of place do they go for oil changes that they have time to shop while its being done?  I go to the 10 minute places that have specials all the time and sit in the car and read while they work.  Must be nice to have that kind of time to waste.

God love her, but Layla is not very cute.  She'll change a lot as she grows, but, currently, not real cute.  It doesn't help that her mother dresses her in such washed out, blah colors and puts those goofy folded-over pigtails in her hair either.  

While I am being an old lady and complaining, I hate the current fad of putting kids in dress shoes with no socks.  It looks uncomfortable, sweaty and smelly to me.  Now, get off my lawn.

8 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

You read my mind!  Staff for the four of them that have no jobs?😳

 I guess now I’ve truly heard it all!  😜

Now, Carlin and Evan have to take a day off during the week so that they can run 'errands',  That toddler's nails won't paint themselves!   Apparently, they don't realize that those of us who actually work at real jobs cannot spend a work day bopping around town getting manicures.  They really are clueless.

Edited August 17, 2022 by Notabug

[Jeanne222]

This one, as my grandpa would say,  is a real ass scratcher!

Who’s on first?  What’s really going on with Carlin?  Does Evan even want to be an electrician?  Who has money for a three year old to get a manicure when nobody works!

Usually this far into the game I can figure things out but with this crew I don’t have a clue!

Most of these Bates girls are running channels. Everybody will get sick 🤒 of them soon. They really have nothing interesting to say!

[Tdoc72]

11 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I'm not into male/female roles, but I know Fundies are. I'm guessing Whitney and Carlin are happy to leave all financial decisions to Zach and giggle their way through "sourcing" clothes. Zach's job likely takes five hours a month. I have no idea what Whitney and Carlin do when they're at the warehouse, other than touch clothing and model their products, since they have staff that handle everything else.

If Evan comes on as the media guy, he will have the most to do, but even that would only be a few hours a week.

There are a few select families spawned from the Bates and Duggars who have yet to be hit with real life.

I don’t know how much Zach was involved from the get go but I do give Whitney & Carlin some props for starting the business and getting it this far. Although they then lose a few points for seemingly letting Zach take over a lot of the stuff. 

[3 is enough]

At the beginning when Erin was still there they used to post videos of Whitney packing the orders.  Those days are long gone.  I do think sales have increased- otherwise they couldn't afford to hire people to do the grunt work, and pay rent on the warehouse. Is it enough to support 2 families?  Who knows?

[Peanut6711]

A professional nail salon treatment for a toddler is a waste of money and sends a message of entitlement to Layla.  She'll be a spoiled brat some day soon just like her mother. I know they have no brains to figure this out but how do they have the money if neither of them are actively employed.  

[ginger90]

So……..Evan and Layla got haircuts while Carlin waited in the car. Not to worry, Zade was with her. 🤦‍♀️

[BitterApple]

3 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

So……..Evan and Layla got haircuts while Carlin waited in the car. Not to worry, Zade was with her. 🤦‍♀️

Omg, I just watched Carlin's stories and was gobsmacked. So the girl who can't be left alone is sitting in the car ALONE with an unsecured infant lounging in the front seat. What if she'd had a seizure and Zade toppled onto the floor? They're just all over the place with their lies and behavior. At some point even the leghumpers are going to start doubting. 

[Salacious Kitty]

They're idiots. Carlin even said in the story that she couldn't be left alone. 

[Cinnabon]

6 hours ago, ginger90 said:

 

screenshot from a video 

His feet - my eyes! No flip flops, men.😆

[ginger90]

3 hours ago, Notabug said:

what kind of place do they go for oil changes that they have time to shop while its being done?

They were at Walmart.

[ozziemom]

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

They're idiots. Carlin even said in the story that she couldn't be left alone. 

She posted she couldn’t be at home alone so I guess sitting in the car is fine??

[Salacious Kitty]

29 minutes ago, ozziemom said:

She posted she couldn’t be at home alone so I guess sitting in the car is fine??

These morons seem to think there's a difference. Alone is alone. Period. End of story.