Carlin and Evan: But Mostly Carlin!

[Natalie68]

4 hours ago, ranchgirl said:

That mirror was HUGE.  I don't know how they will ever get that up the stairs.  How was it even delivered?  

Could be that he just called the doctor.  Evan said something like "the doctor is saying she looks like she has a concussion"  ... 

so I guess I took that as a doctor had seen Carlin.  

Could be wrong but maybe they aren't going to the dr when they should because they don't have the $.  They have other needs such as snacks, prime day and the like.

[ozziemom]

29 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I don't pay a ton of attention to this family but don't several of the Bates daughters have some pretty significant health issues?  Erin, Alyssa, Carlin, any others?  

I think all of them who have been pregnant have some sort of health issues. And Michael has fertility problems. We don’t know about Katie or the  girls still at home.

[Natalie68]

Just now, ozziemom said:

I think all of them who have been pregnant have some sort of health issues. And Michael has fertility problems. We don’t know about Katie or the  girls still at home.

Thanks! Maybe this is their god's way of telling them to slow their roll and their DNA doesn't need to be passed along.

[cereality]

Carlin and family were at today's BSB meeting per Whit. Whit on IG says Carlin made it and pray for her bc she's not at 100% but she's such a trooper; and in her later videos you can see Carlin sitting there and Evan and the kids off to the side as well as the girl who functions as their nanny.

Lord knows she couldn't skip a meeting with "designers" from Cali bc how else would their cheap dresses and tshirts for fall get selected. That was def more important than maybe seeing some kind of dr in person for the concussion she was told she may have. This is 100% about knowing she and Whit edged out Erin when she got long covid so Whit could now turn around and do the same to her.

It's interesting to go back and look and how just 2 yrs ago Carlin and Erin were close. When Carlin was hospitalized with meningitis after Layla's birth, they left Layla with Erin. ERIN was the one who saw Layla turning blue while she was watching her and rushed her to the hospital and that's when they found the hole in her heart. And now to think these sisters don't speak to each other. I guess they were all good until Erin got covid in Aug 2020 and then long covid/her surgeries would have been that fall/winter.

[GeeGolly]

So Evan sticks around with the kids, during a business meeting, when Carlin is sitting tight with her family, but he's okay when she is pirouetting on the beach, with an infant in her arms, while he's operating a drone and when she's off shopping and churching and he's nowhere to be found?

[Salacious Kitty]

1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

I don't pay a ton of attention to this family but don't several of the Bates daughters have some pretty significant health issues?  Erin, Alyssa, Carlin, any others?  

Josie 

[Cinnabon]

41 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

So Evan sticks around with the kids, during a business meeting, when Carlin is sitting tight with her family, but he's okay when she is pirouetting on the beach, with an infant in her arms, while he's operating a drone and when she's off shopping and churching and he's nowhere to be found?

And he’s home using FMLA and yet they have a fucking nanny? 

[Salacious Kitty]

2 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

And he’s home using FMLA and yet they have a fucking nanny? 

She's a family friend. I doubt they're paying her. 

[Tikichick]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Actually many MDs do diagnose concussions on a phone consult, even before the pandemic and Zoom. They ask the standard questions - how far was the fall, is there a bump, did the patient lose consciousness, speech, cognition, etc. Most concussions don't need medical interventions and can be treated at home.

I'm no doc, don't even have a TV degree from several seasons of watching ER back in the day.   The common sense part of my brain and the part that says a patient who's been under observation and monitoring for unexplained seizures?, blackouts?,  whathaveyou, suddenly is on a telehealth visit with their doctor because they've lost consciousness, hit their head and were out for 20 minutes and I'm thinking that doctor says do not pass go, report to the nearest ER immediately.  

[Salacious Kitty]

1 minute ago, Tikichick said:

I'm no doc, don't even have a TV degree from several seasons of watching ER back in the day.   The common sense part of my brain and the part that says a patient who's been under observation and monitoring for unexplained seizures?, blackouts?,  whathaveyou, suddenly is on a telehealth visit with their doctor because they've lost consciousness, hit their head and were out for 20 minutes and I'm thinking that doctor says do not pass go, report to the nearest ER immediately.  

Carlin has said repeatedly that doctors "don't do anything." She seems to be vehemently anti doctor, especially now that she hates her meds.

[Tikichick]

1 minute ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Carlin has said repeatedly that doctors "don't do anything." She seems to be vehemently anti doctor, especially now that she hates her meds.

Carlin's medical credentials must be better than mine, because if it were me or my family member -- or even a friend I had to drag kicking and screaming, we would be at the ER pronto.

Who knows, maybe she has doubts about Erin's bout with long Covid, but I know a couple people who have had a pretty rough go of it with long-term concussion consequences.  One because the concussion was so severe, another because they essentially shrugged it off and gave zero time for healing immediately after it happened (this one was a young, otherwise healthy teen hurt playing soccer).  

[GeeGolly]

9 minutes ago, Tikichick said:

I'm no doc, don't even have a TV degree from several seasons of watching ER back in the day.   The common sense part of my brain and the part that says a patient who's been under observation and monitoring for unexplained seizures?, blackouts?,  whathaveyou, suddenly is on a telehealth visit with their doctor because they've lost consciousness, hit their head and were out for 20 minutes and I'm thinking that doctor says do not pass go, report to the nearest ER immediately.  

I don't recall them saying she was out for 20 minutes with this one. I'm talking about everyday falls or bumps and bruises that likely are nothing, or could be a mild concussion.

I have no idea if Evan talked to an MD familiar with Carlin's health or if he didn't he gave a full history to whoever he spoke with.

And honestly, I'm not even sure this 'doctor acquired info' was actually acquired that night. He may have been repeating what they told him with other falls and just implied it was current info. Like I said before, he kind of mumbled and circled around the doctor part.

[Salacious Kitty]

The incident in which she was out for 20 minutes was the one with Whitney and Alyssa (and Kelly?) where the strangers had to put Carlin in the car. Alyssa was shocked that they didn't call 911. Whose call was that if Carlin was out cold?

[Tikichick]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

I don't recall them saying she was out for 20 minutes with this one. I'm talking about everyday falls or bumps and bruises that likely are nothing, or could be a mild concussion.

I have no idea if Evan talked to an MD familiar with Carlin's health or if he didn't he gave a full history to whoever he spoke with.

And honestly, I'm not even sure this 'doctor acquired info' was actually acquired that night. He may have been repeating what they told him with other falls and just implied it was current info. Like I said before, he kind of mumbled and circled around the doctor part.

Maybe I've lost the thread then.  I understood that she fell in a parking lot, hitting her head and being out for 20 minutes.   

If you're out on FMLA because you need to be with your wife 24/7 to monitor her wellbeing, don't you give any doc you talk to the fullest rundown you can?   Was he in a rush because he had urgent drone business or something? 

I'm only following what's being said here, so I may be missing a lot of info.  But I'm starting to see what looks like more and more possibilities where this could go wrong for them in ways they probably would never imagine -- completely leaving aside any risky health decisions they're potentially making about Carlin's actual health.

[ginger90]

Screenshots from videos:

[GeeGolly]

Just now, Tikichick said:

Maybe I've lost the thread then.  I understood that she fell in a parking lot, hitting her head and being out for 20 minutes.   

If you're out on FMLA because you need to be with your wife 24/7 to monitor her wellbeing, don't you give any doc you talk to the fullest rundown you can?   Was he in a rush because he had urgent drone business or something? 

I'm only following what's being said here, so I may be missing a lot of info.  But I'm starting to see what looks like more and more possibilities where this could go wrong for them in ways they probably would never imagine -- completely leaving aside any risky health decisions they're potentially making about Carlin's actual health.

Two falls, one a couple of days ago while shopping she fell, bumped her head and was out for 20 minutes. Second fall was last night at church and the only info they shared was she fell back onto a car seat.

[GeeGolly]

They're back home? Why is Carlin sleeping on a mattress on the floor, in what appears to be the kitchen or a bathroom?

And OMG, the piles of dresses in the background of the shop. 

[ginger90]

6 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

They're back home? Why is Carlin sleeping on a mattress on the floor, in what appears to be the kitchen or a bathroom?

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She’s in their living room. No clue why the mattress is there. 🤷🏼‍♀️
The next part of the video shows Layla behind her.

[Tikichick]

2 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

They're back home? Why is Carlin sleeping on a mattress on the floor, in what appears to be the kitchen or a bathroom?

And OMG, the piles of dresses in the background of the shop. 

Looks like the legs and bottom portion of leather/vinyl chair that would be in living/family/den.   I thought it was weird too, until I considered that if he actually is home monitoring her and watching the kids it might be that she's resting where he can keep an eye on her while taking care of the kids.  Maybe their bedroom would be too tucked away or on another floor -- or maybe there's concern if she has another episode or attempted to get up and falls again?   

Seems odd to me and impossible to get rest, but IF someone is on their own caring for the kids and attempting to monitor her I could potentially see that being the choice made.  With these two, who knows.

[ginger90]

7 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

And OMG, the piles of dresses in the background of the shop. 

Right? What a mess.

[GeeGolly]

1 minute ago, Tikichick said:

Looks like the legs and bottom portion of leather/vinyl chair that would be in living/family/den.   I thought it was weird too, until I considered that if he actually is home monitoring her and watching the kids it might be that she's resting where he can keep an eye on her while taking care of the kids.  Maybe their bedroom would be too tucked away or on another floor -- or maybe there's concern if she has another episode or attempted to get up and falls again?   

Seems odd to me and impossible to get rest, but IF someone is on their own caring for the kids and attempting to monitor her I could potentially see that being the choice made.  With these two, who knows.

They redid the living/dining areas in hardwood. Their upstairs, den/bedrooms, is carpeted. So I think that leaves the kitchen and bathrooms.

So two months into the game, Evan's finally going to keep an eye on her? 🤷🏽‍♀️

[Tikichick]

How much do they charge for these dresses?   Seems like clothing manufactured in the U.S. would come at a premium, otherwise how would they afford the labor?

[GeeGolly]

7 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

She’s in their living room. No clue why the mattress is there. 🤷🏼‍♀️
The next part of the video shows Layla behind her.

But the living/dining rooms are hardwood, no? 

Oh, just went and looked. That is their hardwood floors. 🤦🏽‍♀️

Edited July 19, 2022 by GeeGolly

[Tikichick]

2 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

They redid the living/dining areas in hardwood. Their upstairs, den/bedrooms, is carpeted. So I think that leaves the kitchen and bathrooms.

So two months into the game, Evan's finally going to keep an eye on her? 🤷🏽‍♀️

The all caps IF just wasn't enough to do the job with these two.  Knew I should have broken out the boldface. 

[Jeanne222]

Maybe she doesn’t go upstairs without help. A fall down the stairs could be fatal. 

I read and I have no words. But I was thinking the doctors are really looking bad. 

Can they respond?  I’m guessing no due to patient privacy laws but there must be something they can do. Carlin and Evan are making them look like idiots!

The question arises ‘who’s monkey and who’s zoo’?

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

She's a family friend. I doubt they're paying her. 

That makes it worse, lol.

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Carlin has said repeatedly that doctors "don't do anything." She seems to be vehemently anti doctor, especially now that she hates her meds.

This is disturbing since she has 2 small children in her care. Hello, CPS? 😳

[cereality]

Lol no drs. cannot respond publicly to what a patient says. Not to mention no dr. cares what two F list UPTV stars and wannabe YT stars [or any patient really] say. Frankly if they aren't happy with their care, what exactly stops them from going to Vanderbilt [as I think the neuro is in Knox] or flying to Northwestern or U Chicago for a high level health system opinion [and frankly it wouldn't be a bad idea at all to do this]?

Reality is they aren't telling us the details so all the "drs. do nothing" BS likely is just BS. Did drs. tell her NOT to go back on her meds after a two day test? Was that instruction really not written down - as most testing as well as pre/post testing discussions are written nowadays. And if they really didn't understand, did drs. tell her she couldn't call the office and ask re meds? And once told yes you need to go back on meds - did they tell her to wait until after her precious cash and carry?

Did they say her family could not take her to the ER after she fell on a parking lot with Alyssa or did Evan veto that when Alyssa called him? Did they say they couldn't take her yesterday when she got a concussion or did Evan make that decision while she was out? Did they say that with a concussion she had to stay up all night and then go to a BSB meeting as if it's a corporate board meeting for a Fortune 500 - and BTW even those have a telephone or zoom option now? 

For all we know drs. ARE telling them to mostly stay home and/or go out only when Evan can directly walk with her. Drs. may be telling them she needs to completely rest now with a concussion but per Evan she's "little miss stubborn" and just had to go to BSB. And as usual Evan is acting like it's sooo cute that his wife is so stubborn and she'll do what she does and thinks drs. do nothing. Uh bro it isn't cute - you guys are taking chances here. Though who knows maybe he's just scared so it's easier to just play it cute and focus on filming for YT.

Edited July 19, 2022 by cereality

[Cinnabon]

56 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Screenshots from videos:

Manufacturers? Who designs the clothes?

[GeeGolly]

I agree with @cereality, the ones who look bad in this saga is Carlin and Evan.

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

And OMG, the piles of dresses in the background of the shop. 

Right?! Don't even get me started on how fast fashion is ruining the planet, now we've got these idiots with a warehouse full of clothes collecting dust. They've had several bargain basement sales and still can't get rid of this crap. Why aren't they donating it? 

[65mickey]

If Carlin were my daughter I would insist that her doctors refer her to a teaching hopsital with physicians who specialize in seizures of unknown origin. And it would not matter where I had to take her. This is absurd that they cannot get any answers as to why she is having these seizures.  And if Evan were my son I would shake him and tell him if he did not get control of this situation he is looking at being a single dad raising 2 young children alone. They have fooled around for 2 months with this and things are no better than when she first started having seizures. She is basically going to be a home bound invalid if they don't get the proper diagnosis. 

[Jeanne222]

4 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Right?! Don't even get me started on how fast fashion is ruining the planet, now we've got these idiots with a warehouse full of clothes collecting dust. They've had several bargain basement sales and still can't get rid of this crap. Why aren't they donating it? 

I think they are in way over their heads. Inventory control is a huge part of failure or success in any business that deals with product. 

[coconspirator]

7 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

If Carlin were my daughter I would insist that her doctors refer her to a teaching hopsital with physicians who specialize in seizures of unknown origin. And it would not matter where I had to take her. This is absurd that they cannot get any answers as to why she is having these seizures.  And if Evan were my son I would shake him and tell him if he did not get control of this situation he is looking at being a single dad raising 2 young children alone. They have fooled around for 2 months with this and things are no better than when she first started having seizures. She is basically going to be a home bound invalid if they don't get the proper diagnosis. 

Thing is they have Vanderbilt right there and that's a pretty darn good hospital. I would assume they have doctors who specialize in seizures. I suppose they could try to get in at the Mayo Clinic if they don't get answers soon. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Those dresses the vendors were showing were butt ugly.

[65mickey]

2 minutes ago, coconspirator said:

Thing is they have Vanderbilt right there and that's a pretty darn good hospital. I would assume they have doctors who specialize in seizures. I suppose they could try to get in at the Mayo Clinic if they don't get answers soon. 

I get it. My daughter graduated from Vanderbilt. It is a great medical center.  But maybe they don't have the specialists that she needs. If they have been waiting for what a month for the results of her EEG and they still havent heard from the EKG something is wrong. I think Alyssa was right when she said to Carlin this is not normal and the doctors need to figure this out. And maybe Carlin needs to get a wakeup call from the doctors who can tell her that she is playing with fire and her lack of attention to her own medical condition could be deadly. I don't know but it seems like no one in her family is taking this seriously. 

[GeeGolly]

8 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

 I don't know but it seems like no one in her family is taking this seriously. 

This is one of the reasons I think her family knows much more than her followers know.

[65mickey]

I hope they do and they are taking this seriously and giving Carlin and Evan the support that they need.

[Cinnabon]

52 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Right?! Don't even get me started on how fast fashion is ruining the planet, now we've got these idiots with a warehouse full of clothes collecting dust. They've had several bargain basement sales and still can't get rid of this crap. Why aren't they donating it? 

Next up - puppy mills! 🥲

50 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

If Carlin were my daughter I would insist that her doctors refer her to a teaching hopsital with physicians who specialize in seizures of unknown origin. And it would not matter where I had to take her. This is absurd that they cannot get any answers as to why she is having these seizures.  And if Evan were my son I would shake him and tell him if he did not get control of this situation he is looking at being a single dad raising 2 young children alone. They have fooled around for 2 months with this and things are no better than when she first started having seizures. She is basically going to be a home bound invalid if they don't get the proper diagnosis. 

Unfortunately, Carlin now has a “headship” that’s just as dim, vain, and irresponsible as she is, and she can’t depend on him to make wise healthcare decisions.

[Cinnabon]

35 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I get it. My daughter graduated from Vanderbilt. It is a great medical center.  But maybe they don't have the specialists that she needs. If they have been waiting for what a month for the results of her EEG and they still havent heard from the EKG something is wrong. I think Alyssa was right when she said to Carlin this is not normal and the doctors need to figure this out. And maybe Carlin needs to get a wakeup call from the doctors who can tell her that she is playing with fire and her lack of attention to her own medical condition could be deadly. I don't know but it seems like no one in her family is taking this seriously. 

Her results have been available to her, as the law requires. The doctors aren’t the ones at fault here, imo.

[65mickey]

That picture of Carlin and Whitney sitting in front of piles of clothing that appear to be left over from the cash and carry sale look like rags waiting to be tossed unfortunately into a landfill. They really need to hire a few helpers to come in and sort through that mess. This doesn't look like a smart way to run a business. 

[65mickey]

5 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Her results have been available to her, as the law requires. The doctors aren’t the ones at fault here, imo.

Unless someone who is closely related to Carlin confirms this I am not willing to accept this as fact. 

[Cinnabon]

14 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

That picture of Carlin and Whitney sitting in front of piles of clothing that appear to be left over from the cash and carry sale look like rags waiting to be tossed unfortunately into a landfill. They really need to hire a few helpers to come in and sort through that mess. This doesn't look like a smart way to run a business. 

These people (at least the women) don’t work. They have time to sort their crap out without help. Maybe they should cut down on the shipping trips and vacations.

11 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Unless someone who is closely related to Carlin confirms this I am not willing to accept this as fact. 

The law requires test results to be available in a timely manner. They would have been given instructions on how to access them. And most of the people close to Carlin also exaggerate and obfuscate, just like she and her headship do. 🤷‍♀️
 

Edited July 20, 2022 by Cinnabon

[Dehumidifier]

Many moons ago, when I was in my twenties, I was put on an anti-seizure drug due to a misdiagnosis. Maybe formulas are better now but based on my experience I can theorize that she is be falling down because she is literally falling asleep, even while standing. The meds I took were really exhausting and I didn't have small kids to take care of.

[cereality]

I wouldn't underestimate just how dumb and under-educated these headships are. We all know G&K raised their daughters to be dumb ditzes bc what does a woman need besides the Lord + making babies, she'll have a headship that'll make all the decisions for her + the boys won't be attracted to a daughter that's too smart. They excitedly married them off to to the first headship that looked at them who believed in the Bible + were handsome + had a k-12 education consisting of Bible flashcards with their own mamas - as is the case with Evan and John.

After both of Alyssa's surgeries were done, she and John made a video about it and I still remember being stunned watching John and his lack of deductive reasoning. I mean sure he was sweet being appropriately teary about how much he loved his wife and how stunned he was that she needed heart surgery. And then he went on and on and on about how they never understood what was going on, the drs. used SUCH big words, who even knew if the surgeries were what she needed but they Lord moved them in that direction, who even knew that there are different types of cardiologists and all they could do is pray she found the right dr.

Sure medical issues are stunning for anyone, but in this day and age and esp. with conditions that are dealt with over a series of drs. office visits [as opposed to true emergencies], most people are able to read up, ask the dr questions when he/she explains, if they don't understand - ask follow up questions. These daughters obviously can't do that, but their headships can't either. I legit think a dr speaks and they get overwhelmed by big words, don't know what to ask or how to ask, so they go with it and then are left saying - who knows what the drs were saying . . . . And then they revert to what they know - the Lord; drs. don't know everything, it's in the Lord's hands, the Lord's moving us to seek this treatment that the dr mentioned that we totally don't understand . . . .

I think that's where a lot of Carlin's - drs don't do anything - stuff is coming from; and then when she's in a better mood/feeling better, she'll sometimes say how nice all the drs/nurses were. Which is something a 4th grade little girl would say - that the dr. was NICE - as oppose to he/she really explained x, we asked a ton of questions, they came up with a plan etc.

Edited July 20, 2022 by cereality

[GeeGolly]

For all we know Carlin's parents and inlaws have made all kinds of suggestions and C&E are ignoring them.

Is Carlin going to "be a trooper" and show up at VBS tonight?

Most moms that I know would be doing everything they can to get their health back on track so they can be there for their kids. Poor Layla probably doesn't know if she's coming or going between the CA wedding, staying at the Stewarts, a couple of weeks at their old apartment, a move into the new house, then a week in FL, all while her mom is passing out and going to the doctors and passing out some more.

[So unbelievable]

14 hours ago, writerwoman said:

Okay we can get back to the latest “spell” in a minute, but can we please address the ginormous mirror she bought that is literally as big as one of the walls in my house???

Yes!  That mirror is hideous and gaudy.  Plus, going in the bedroom?  Didn't think they had it in them.  

[Salacious Kitty]

2 minutes ago, So unbelievable said:

Yes!  That mirror is hideous and gaudy.  Plus, going in the bedroom?  Didn't think they had it in them.  

[GeeGolly]

8 minutes ago, So unbelievable said:

Yes!  That mirror is hideous and gaudy.  Plus, going in the bedroom?  Didn't think they had it in them.  

Yea, I don't think they do have it in them. I'm guessing this mirror is all about influencing. C&E can prance around in front of the mirror shilling their clothes without fighting for the mirror.

I think they're going to be in for the shock of their lives when they're doing the wild thing and are startled by the 'other couple doing it too'. 🤣

[Cinnabon]

3 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Yea, I don't think they do have it in them. I'm guessing this mirror is all about influencing. C&E can prance around in front of the mirror shilling their clothes without fighting for the mirror.

I think they're going to be in for the shock of their lives when they're doing the wild thing and are startled by the 'other couple doing it too'. 🤣

When their kids get older, they are going to be traumatized. 🤣

[So unbelievable]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Poor Layla probably doesn't know if she's coming or going

Plus, staying late at the church and not going to bed on time in her own room.   Sad.