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Yes! I like hearing them talking about the show. I didn’t realize it was ok to break the fourth wall on the UGT shows, but it was refreshing hearing them talk about their experiences. Is Peacock owned by Bravo or a separate entity?

She looks heavier to me. I noticed it right away and wondered if that’s why they have her wearing the long coat in so many scenes. I didn’t realize she was pregnant until I looked it up.

I noticed she looked slimmer in the last episode when she was wearing the yellow dress. Her face also looked thinner. It’s weird but her chin and jawline didn’t look as prominent in the ATFR, which made her look softer and more lovely to me. During the season, I didn’t think Gabi looked that great but it was mostly due to little to no make-up, humidity and poor styling. I know how bad my hair looks in humid climates so I certainly understand! Overall, I think they are all very attractive. In my opinion, I’d put Ariel first, then Kaity a close second, then Gabi. Kaity and Ariel are so close they could be switched. I hope Gabi is doing ok. I’m concerned about her mental health. She seemed to take the rejection really hard. I know a lot of them have, but even later after some time had passed, Gabi didn’t seem to have bounced back on ATFR.

I’m in the minority, but I don’t want to see Gabi as the Bachelorette. I think she’s too emotionally fragile. I didn’t understand why they gave Gabi so much time on stage, and it was painful at times watching her try to articulate how much she’d been hurt. She looked stunning though. I loved her dress, make-up and hair. I don’t think Charity was the right pick either, and I don’t plan on watching her season. The brother stunt made me roll my eyes. Why does he need a costume? None of the men know him and I doubt most would remember seeing him briefly on Zach’s season. At least get a more realistic costume if you must use one. I had forgotten what Zach’s occupation was so I looked it up. He used to be an account executive for Oracle. Ah, now I get it. Some of his mannerisms make sense now including the people-pleasing. He strikes me as similar to salespeople I’ve dealt with in my HR career. My preference would be a 40+ Bachelor season, so we could get mature (hopefully) adults, perhaps with grown children, so maybe these contestants are starting a new chapter of their lives. Given the women are always younger on this show, they’d be in their 30s. If I was casting I’d have a guideline to try not to cast any women who are more than 10 years younger than the lead. Hopefully this would eliminate a lot of the squealing and uptalk, but there’s no guarantee. Maybe they’ll cast Ariel as Bachelorette in a future season. I hope so.

At first I couldn’t figure out why Gabi looked so different and better than she did on the show. I thought it was the makeup and styling, but you’re right, she also lost weight. She looked really good. I thought Ariel looked beautiful and was composed and well-spoken. I didn’t think she was cold or robotic. I found it refreshing to see one of the rejected women speak her mind without crying and getting emotional. I know it probably isn’t as good TV but I appreciated her poise. I still wish she had been picked for the Bachelorette. I doubt I’ll watch Charity’s season. I like that they gave Gabi a lot of time to speak her mind, more so than I’ve remembered in the past. She struggled at times (according to my husband in the next room, it was challenging to hear) but she managed to get it out. Zach really had no option other than eating crow, which he did fairly well. I don’t believe Zach was torn. The bachelors always say this to prolong the suspense. I think Gabi’s gut instinct was right. He knew it was Kaity pretty early in the process and just didn’t want to say it, probably due to producer pressure. I like Jesse. I think he comes across a bit more insightful and compassionate than Chris Harrison. I wonder if Zach and Kaity will make it to the altar. 2025 is a two year engagement. Understandable given their rapid courtship, but many couples haven’t made it this long. I CANNOT see Ariel on Bachelor in Paradise! She is too classy for this show. Please let it not happen!

Me too! Swoon! He is adorable. I wish Camila was with him instead of Billy. He would treat her much better.

Me too. What a horrible thing to do to her. I wish they had shown what happened. I needed closure!

Just popped into say wow, the difference in Lisa’s face from seasons 1-3 to 4 is startling! She should’ve left well enough alone. Adriana also looks a lot different, but maybe it’s just the lighter hair color and a little weight gain. Speaking of Alexia, she is pretty but I wish she had chosen a different shade of blonde. I don’t think the yellowish blonde is flattering. Glad she is engaged to a nice guy. I hope it works out with his relationship with her son. I’m surprised they brought Marysol back. I didn’t find her that interesting in the previous seasons. I was surprised to see Joanna gone but not Karent or Lea. I don’t miss Lea’s cackle. Oh and Ana is gone too. Gosh, they really culled the cast from S3 to S4. I think it was rude of Julia to flirt with Adriana in front of Martina, especially at a party with a lot of other people around. I’m mostly watching to see what happens with Lisa and Lenny, although maybe it goes down in season 5?

I don’t know this blogger so I’m not sure if this is true, but here you go. Not sure what Denise did to her face but she looks odd here.

I got some Stevie Nicks vibes from Daisy’s performance in Oahu. Also thought it was rude of her to come in early and unannounced, but I guess they’re setting up some strife in the band. Broke down and bought the book, because there was a 14 week wait at the library.

Some of these couples aren’t married, but gosh a lot of them are. I had no idea there were so many from BIP who got married!

Me too! I'm distracted by his hair! It seems thicker and healthier than it did twenty years ago, which doesn't make sense. He looks so much better in these scenes that I don't even like watching him in the flashbacks. I was cringing!

I noticed this too. Billy looks rough and much older than the others. He looks better supposedly 20 years later. I enjoyed the first episode. I like the nostalgia of the 70s and loved the Laurel Canyon documentary I saw about it (can't remember the name but it was multiple parts and excellent), so it made me want to watch this. I didn't read the book but I might now. Irish Mermaid, thanks for pointing that out. I was wondering about the six title. I kept counting and there are only five!

Agree. She is so poised, mature and interesting. I think she was too much for Zach. He didn’t connect with her on an emotional level, although he was physically attracted to her. Perhaps he wants someone who seems to need him more. I also couldn’t see him living in NYC and he didn’t seem comfortable with her family. I guess they just weren’t the right match, but I still wish Ariel had been picked as the next Bachelorette instead of Charity. I don’t know if I’ll even watch Charity’s season. I’m looking forward to hearing Ariel’s comments on ATFR, assuming she’ll be there.

I disagree. I think Jesse is really good on the show. I don’t even miss Chris Harrison. I do think Chris was treated badly though and shouldn’t have been fired.

What was lost in all this for me was Ariel. If Zach was so determined to be honest with the women, then why didn’t he also tell Ariel what he did? She was dispensed with pretty quickly and without much angst on his part. I think there are better things in store for her than Zach, but I still didn’t like seeing her come in such a distant third. I wonder how she felt watching the playback. Zach was pretty rude to pick Gabi second again, knowing how she felt about it. He could have easily given her the first rose. I wish Kaity had told him to take a hike.

I was surprised. Gabi seems this shy of neurotic to me, and I find her the least attractive of the three women. I figured Ariel was out when he didn’t have sex with her. I don’t think he was emotionally invested in her. Nice to see her drive off and maintain her poise and composure though. No tears. No angry ranting. I really like her. I thought Kaity was the one but now I’m questioning that it might be Gabi. Why would he have sex with her otherwise? He was adamant about not messing things up with the final one.

Either Hilary is wearing a bad wig or she needs a serious hair makeover. It distracted me this episode. The only character I really like it Hilary’s boss.

I don’t know what happened, but the five-month break certainly didn’t help this show. I’m having trouble staying interested. Hilary Swank is pregnant right? Eileen looks heavier and is always wearing a coat. I was interested in this show first (I grew up in Anchorage and worked for the Anchorage Daily News), but it’s losing me now. I have a hard time warming to Eileen and the other characters aren’t compelling. I don’t know. I’m having trouble putting my finger on what’s missing.

Agree. I really wanted it to be Ariel. I was disappointed they chose Charity. I’m wondering which of the 3 Zach slept with in the fantasy suite!

That dress confused me. It looks like she's holding a shirt in front of her. Awkward and unflattering.

I figured Charity was out. I didn't see much chemistry between them. It seemed more friend zone to me. I think Gabi's out next. She's nice enough but seems a little immature and emotionally unstable to me. I'm calling final 2 as Ariel and Kaity (I'm unspoiled). He clearly is really into Kaity, but I think he's lusting for Ariel too. Kind of reminds me of the Brad Chantal Emily dynamic. Brad picked Emily but still couldn't keep his hands off Chantal. Their treehouse night made Emily see red when she watched the playback. It's definitely so much more convenient for him with Kaity being in the same town. Has this ever happened on this show before, the lead and his (probable) pick already living in the same town? Plus he clearly was ill at ease with Ariel's family, and he doesn't seem to fit into her NYC lifestyle and culture. I think she's gorgeous and smart though. I'd like to see her as the next Bachelorette. I don't think Gabi is interesting or pretty enough to be the next one. Charity is pretty enough but doesn't have a lot of charisma. Zach looks sweaty, tired and stressed in many of the scenes. The guy seems to have aged five years since the season started. Kaity's mom is nice, but their bond concerns me a little. And where was Mom when Kaity was in a seven-year toxic relationship? Maybe her mom tried to warn her, and that's why Kaity puts so much stock in her opinion now. Agree that if this were a guy, we'd call him a momma's boy. I like Sean well enough, but that scene seemed pointless to me. Either he gave no advice worth anything or they edited it all out. And I like Jesse as the host! I don't even miss Chris Harrison.

It’s mostly the tip that’s the problem. It’s over-projected, pointy and unnatural looking. I wonder if she could get a revision rhino and just have the surgeon reshape the tip and not have to break her nose again. It would probably make the recovery period shorter. Whatever the case, Jennifer was rude to comment on it, especially in front of other people. I wonder if she was drunk and her filter was off, assuming she has one. Bill doesn’t seem happy with Jennifer, but I’m not clear if it’s real or a TV thing to give her a storyline.

Perhaps but Gizelle didn’t have to make such a big deal out of it. It was basically her whole storyline. I don’t want Robyn back. I don’t think she was honest with Andy. Sad she’s willing to stay with Juan when he’s a serial cheater.

Toni Tennille wants her hair back. Yes, I’m dating myself.