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What strikes me about this picture is that the bra (assuming that is supposed to be a bra?) appears to be resting just above her abdomen. Are her breasts really that droopy? Yikes! She would have been better just to go without the top, if she was going to be an exhibitionist anyway. Then one (Adam?) could at least imagine that her breasts are sitting where they should be. Or once were, as the case might be. But ya, it is harder and harder for me to imagine anyone taking Carole seriously these days. Anyone.

I never liked the actor playing Summer when she was first on the show. Then I got to like her on Life In Pieces, and now find that I like her on Y&R. I think part of the reason is that I can't stand Phyllis - never could - so anyone who Out Phyllis's Phyllis is great in my book, even if it is her own daughter. And who better to carry on the family traits? Though I think her nickname should be changed from Dummer to Slummer. I didn't think it was possible for me to grow to like smarmy Kyle, but I have. Is he less smarmy now, or am I just desperate for someone to like in this very unlikable cast of characters? I can only count on Mariah to bring a smile to my face.

You mean Bethenny, the person who Ramona went to for comfort during her break up with Mario? Bethenny, the person who tried to talk sense to Dorinda after she made a fool of herself in her fight with Luann? And Bethenny, the person who wiped the ridiculous clown makeup off Dorinda's face the next day while Carole sat there and let her look like an idiot? Not to mention let Dorinda accompany her to PR after she totally embarrassed Bethenny in front of the people who were helping Beth with PR, by acting like a know it all, when in reality she knew nothing. That Beth? Beth, who mentored Sonja on business, even having her sit in on meetings of her own team? Bethenny, who also comforted Luann after Dorinda treated Lu like crap? Beth, the person who comforted Carole as she was puking her guts out on the boat ride from hell? After the way Carole treated her the entire season? That Beth? I'd have that bitch for a friend any day of the week, certainly over Carole, Dorinda and Ramona.

Or she could call it "What Remains II: A Memoir of Fate, Frenemies, and Hate. (Since the first was called What Remains: A Memoir of Fate, Friendship and Love). How things have changed over the last 19 years or so. It does appear as if Carole, Ramona and Dorinda conspired to try to bring Bethenny down. Apparently led by Carole, who referred to them as the Dream Team. Dream Team indeed. Bethenny 1, Dream Team 0. Wow, if Ramona put her hand over my mouth like she did Sonja's, she would have had a bitten hand. Interesting that by the end of Ramona trying to bring down Beth, she was pretty meek and mild, and compared herself to Bethenny. It was priceless to me that the howives were bitching to Bethenny about her being on camera at Bobby's funeral (cameras that Jill invited), and right after that Dorinda complains that Bethenny didn't thank her enough......on camera. (But admits that she did thank her plenty off camera). Do these morons not hear themselves? I loved Beth shutting down Carole. Over and over. The price of admission all on its own. And I didn't see Andy being especially kind to Bethenny as he did continue to ask the question of whether or not she thought Dorinda is a drunk. However Andy is definitely over Carole. As am I. If looks could kill when her phone rang - lol. Priceless.

But how would the teams know this by opening the envelope? Doesn't it just give them a choice of two challenges without any other details? The teams immediately say which challenge they want to do, and then presumably look on the map to see where they are going? Or are you saying that the scene is edited and the teams actually have time to look at a map before deciding, all of which is edited out? I haven't watched the American version for years, but have watched all but one season of the Canadian version. Serious question here. Would the producers not take into account a difference in travel time to and from a task and make that task shorter in order to make the two challenges relatively equal in length of time in total for travelling and completing any given task? I am glad no one did the goat task (though feel sorry for the people who were there expecting someone to show up) as I hate it when animals are used. I don't think the goats should have been subjected to inexperienced (assuming most would be) people trying to milk them, not to mention quickly, because TARC thinks it is entertaining. I feel that way about most animal related challenges. I heard an interview this morning with Leanne and Mar, and they said that they both have anxiety issues. Mar said that she too was panicking, but in instances where they are both panicking one manages to tamp theirs down to support the other. It is really amazing that they got that far without encountering a task that would bring on their anxiety to the point they would not be able to compete a task. (Without going over in my mind instances where that may have happened). As someone who has claustrophobia, I can sympathize. There are situations/days where I can talk myself out of panicking, other times not. I could never go on TARC because with claustrophobia and a fear of heights, I don't think I would get too far. Kudos to them both for getting as far as they did.

I didn't bother to post last week regarding Ginagate but since it has not blown over (and sounds like it may be the sizzling topic of the OC season - snore) I thought I would put in my 2 cents worth now. I am with Emily's husband Shane. And I don't even like the guy. Mind you I don't like Emily or Gina either, so the bar as to which one I like the most is resting on the floor. Anyhoo as far as I know the kids were asleep (which was mentioned once, other howives are saying he was putting them to bed). I would imagine given their ages they were in bed asleep at the end of the party, and yes, Gina of all people should have known better. Given that her husband can't even bother to be around her or his kids for the most part, I doubt he would have reacted any differently. Were he the type to be home in the first place. And again, I am not defending Shane, I just think he is right and the rest of them are out to lunch. I am only watching this boring AF show for Shannon and Archie. Shannon was way too nice to have David's payments reduced, but that is why I love her and watch the show. She is the most real of all of them. Kelly OTOH is sooooo superficial. She wants for Shannon someone who is tall, dark, handsome, rich and good in bed. How about kind, decent, someone willing to take on 3 kids, and someone who will treat her with the love and respect she deserves. That is my wish for Shannon. And someone who will treat Archie the same way. They deserve no less.

Tinsley could develop a whole line of pillows based on RHoNY. She could have ones made for the cast to commemorate their Colombia trip embroidered with "Shit Happens In Cartagena". So many possibilities.

The gift was sweet if a little boring. I was rewriting the second pillow in my mind. So many sentiments could have been a perfect companion pillow to "What Happens in Miami" such as "Ends In Divorce", "Ends With a Mug Shot" "Ends in Jail", "Ends Up On the Internet".....

From what I could see, all the others in the show did the heavy lifting, and Lu just supplied some banter and butchered Money Can't Buy You Class, as usual. Please, I never want to hear that song sung - or spoken as is really the case - again.

(did anyone find Evelynn? she's out there) MARTINGIRL, you are killing me! I have never quoted someone three times in one post. Carole's outfit at the cabaret looked like she bedazzled a clown costume. Then I saw KungFuBunny's clown post. Too funny. I laughed out loud at your Best Grandma trophy comment. Adam could have given Carole a trophy for Best Coffee Drinker as well. Regarding Ramona's newest skin care line (or anti skin line - lol) there is nothing on the website to link to a product. Nada. Zippo. And this is how many months after her party to celebrate it? MARTINGIRL, I have been searching for Evelynn to no avail. I don't care about Waldo, but I really would like to know where Evelynn is.

I cannot being to express the disgust I feel with people who are trying to use the sad death of Dennis Shields as some attack on Bethenny's character. It says way more about their character than they could ever say about Bethenny's. However his death came about, it is very sad for his loved ones - each and every one of them. Even on the periphery, he was part of the RHONY cast, and I will miss him. RIP Dennis.

I read the article that someone posted here and there is nothing that indicates that Carole knew for any length of time before the marathon that Heather was running. One would think, considering that you train for several months, that they would have met up at some point before to compare notes, go for a run, give each other support. Especially if Heather is just a good friend, she would know that Carole is a couch potato who does not exercise. Doesn't appear to be the case. Which makes me think Carole did not know until even possibly the day of that Heather was running, Carole also says in the article that the marathon brought her and Adam closer. She said their relationship had reached a nice equilibrium. But in her TH in January she said that she had not seen or heard from Adam since the day of the marathon, which at that point would have been more than two months later. More of Carole playing loose and fast with the truth in the article? Carole also said that she didn't consider Anthony a hero when he was fighting cancer, but she did think of him as a hero for running the marathon. Fighting for your life - not a big deal. Running a frivolous marathon? Hero making stuff.

Maybe Carole knew Heather was running the marathon from Bravo. After all, doesn't she have to agree to be filmed and have it shown on a RHONY episode? Since she was on, I would assume Bravo knew ahead of time that she was running.

As someone else pointed out, why would anyone option a book that was a dud?

Ha, good find KFB! That seems more in line with Tins's version of working. I can't see a woman who needs a rich boyfriend to provide a glam squad into her 40s, picking up a hammer in her 20s.

TInsley dropped out of the first university she was attending and spent the time volunteering for Habitat for Humantiy while waiting to be accepted to Columbia. I would imagine since she has wealthy parents she had the means to spend her time volunteering, rather than working to keep a roof over her head as many students would have to do in that situation. My problem with Tinsley as you have stated ShawnaLanne is that she is coming off as someone who's sole purpose in life is to snag a man who can keep her in the lifestyle she is used to. The falling on the floor, trying on wedding dresses, her childish dependency on her mother, allowing Scott to send a glam squad on vacation with her? All things that make me disrespect her. She is almost in Lu territory with regards to her desperation for a man to take care of her, but at least Lu is trying to make her own money. Well that, and stealing from her kids of course. Lol. She and Ramona could have had a joint party as by then Ro will be announcing her newest skincare line, Still Ageless By Ramona. The trophy thing by Adam was hilarious since by this time the marathon was what, 5 months ago? Talk about desperate to be on teevee.

Ah yes, a betrayal. Thank you for reminding me. I didn't think disrespectful was the right word as at the time it struck me as a totally ridiculous word to use regarding someone you are no longer in a committed relationship with. Which makes me think he was seeing/sleeping with the woman he was creating sexy salads and other things with. Also in this epi when Adam said he was really busy Carole mumbled something that ended with sexy salad. Singular. Maybe that is Carole's name for her. Lol. Regarding Sonja's new skin care line, if you go to the website agelessbyramona.com there is nothing there. A few "Ramonaisms" as they are called, but no link to actual products. Nothing. Nada. Seems like Beth knows what she is talking about.

Carole's outfit was "fashion forward" as some would say, but hardly something one would wear to actually train/run. Many who run, or do any type of exercise, are thin and wear form fitting clothes - they come in all sizes including 0. Sexy salad has nothing to do with Carole. It is Adam's "thing" and he often posts videos under that title of his creations even as recently as this summer. That and some other videos were done with the woman I referred to (whose name is Mikaela Reuben). Adam wants free coffee. Carole is obviously still hurt that he wanted to ping pong back and forth with her and other women, and apparently still does. I don't see Adam hot for Carole at all, but obviously YMMV. As to whether Carole is a ball buster - she certainly has destroyed at least one relationship that we know of, and was none too nice about it. OTOH, she seemed to make it her story line this season, as there wasn't much else going on. You can only run on the marathon story for so long. Run along, Carole.

You reminded me of the only thing I enjoyed during the scene at Carole's shoe box apartment. Seeing her cat and dog hanging out. They are all that I will miss when Carole leaves. I hope they don't bring Heather back. I didn't care for her the first time around, and doubt that I would feel any differently if she were to return. UO I know, but I would rather have Jill back if they were to recycle a Howife.

I couldn't understand from the preview - did Dorinda say John wasn't there because he wasn't invited? I felt sorry for John in his scene with Dorinda - he does go out of his way to make her happy, and I don't see that reciprocated. Never have, actually. And Dorinda had me shaking my head when she said John has become a better man over the last 6 years because of her. For the most part I have always thought John deserved someone better than Dorinda, or at least someone who treats him like more than a doormat.

While I didn't particularly care for Ramona's renos (though an update certainly was needed) I couldn't help think when Lu was making her snide remarks that at least Ramona didn't steal from her child(ren) to finance her home/renos. I really hope this is the last season that we have to hear Lu sing (badly) that horrible song, "Money Can't Buy You Class". It can't buy you the ability to sing, either. Geez, Carole can't even wear a tracksuit without looking ridiculous. I can't remember if I have noticed before how little chemistry there is between Carole and Adam. None. Nada. They look like and relate like they are an aunt and nephew. One thing that I did find interesting though. Several episodes back Carole mentioned (can't remember to who) that she would be hurt if Adam went out with someone else, even though they were no longer together. I think she called it disrespectful. That made no sense to me since they were not together. Then someone mentioned that Adam was dating someone that he had created 'sexy salads' with. There are lots of pictures on his instagram of this woman. They have also made some sophomoric videos together. So it all made sense when Carole made a reference to sexy salads when talking to Adam in this epi. It was a rather snide remark, so I took from that that the sexy salad lady is the one Adam was dating, and Carole was upset as Adam was working with her when he was dating Carole. Just a guess but it seems to fit.

I just read a review of Luann's cabaret show from last night (not great) and someone in the audience asked her what she thought of Carole leaving. Lu answered "Well I know Carole loved being on the show, so the statement she released about leaving was interesting". Lu seems to imply that Carole was fired. Which I would imagine many would conclude, as if Carole left of her own accord, why be so bitter and petty about it?

Apparently this does not offend Carole's morals. I wonder what it does for her self respect? Being a serious journalist, and all.

This episode made me want to scream. So the poor daughter looses both her fathers (mind you her step father had a few screws lose to go along with her mother's plan), as well as contact with her half siblings, grandmother and uncle and is stuck being brought up by her psycho mother. I hope either the mother ends up convicted, or at the very least the daughter realizes when she is old enough what her mother has done, and cuts her out of her life.

I am not on twitter but just looked at Carole's account and am not sure what response you are referring to? Since I am not on twitter I didn't realize that when people have posted that Carole is selling her old clothes, that she is selling them on twitter. How embarrassing for her. Between that, and her shilling for a mish mash of companies, I find it hard to believe that she doesn't need the RHONY money. Or that she has something to replace it with. Where is Carole? I thought no one could stand Beth and she ruined the trip for everyone according to Carole? The 5 minus Carole look pretty cosy - even Carole's new BFF Tins has her arm around Beth. Good lord that is one ugly outfit. I like Tins's though - cute style and pretty colours. Even Dorinda's outfit looks appropriate. Carole looks like Morticia Addams died her hair brown.