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I don't think Tinsley was part of the Scream Team (or as they are called on another site, The Geriatric Mean Girls Team) either. I also think Carole wrote the script and Dorinda and Ramona screwed it up. I don't get WWHL, but if Carole said those things on that show and Tins saw it, good on her for calling Carole out on her B.S. at the reunion. It ups my respect for Tinsley. And of course likely ensures that Fight Right Carole and Tinsley are no longer friends. Tinsley deserves better.

Interesting. Since the definition of a girly girl includes a woman who likes to wear makeup, I wonder why she sneered at Tinsley when Tins called her a girly girl? Carole appears to take herself quite seriously (but then when doesn't she?) when she writes about being on a committee to approve products, and tests lots of rarely approves. I would never have pegged Carole as a girly girl as I don't see her as being especially adept at wearing makeup. She can look fine one day, and horrific another. I really don't think Tins had any idea that Carole was going to throw their friendship under the bus, in an OTT attempt to once again run down Bethenny. Tins looked quite upset to me, to the point of jumping up and screaming "Get your hands off of me!" Through out the whole clip Tinsley insists they are good friends. But her reaction at the end looked to me like someone who was embarrassed, hurt, angry and appalled at someone she considered a good friend.

Lol. I see what you mean, and think either could apply. The Keurig verson of coffee with Adam - wham bang, thank you ma'am. Or the Coffee Mate Adam version - a bland, boring, imitation of the real thing.

The funny thing is Carole made that sneering face when Tins made that comment that Carole was a "girly girl, girl's girl". Those are, of course, two completely different things. But the sneer was made right at the first part of the comment, girly girl. Which Carole is not. I don't think she is a girl's girl either as she uses women friends for what benefit they might be to her. However the sneer to me said volumes that Carole actually does think that Tinsley is a dim wit, because she called her a girly girl by mistake. I really hope that Scott sees how badly Carole has treated his on again off again girlfriend, and cuts her loose. While I think Tins is likely a lot to handle as a girlfriend, I do think Scott has/had genuine feelings for her, and if he is any kind of a man he will drop Carole like she deserves to be dropped. Edited to add - looks like we were both posting about Tinsley and Scott at the same time AnnA. You may be right, though I also think it is possible that Carole is so set on proving Bethenny wrong about her relationship with Tins (and we know how obsessive she is about anything to do with Beth) that she thew Tins under the bus without a second thought. As someone else has said, she is a right fighter. Carole is always right in Carole's mind, to the exclusion of anything/anyone else.

I'm thinking more the bland, white, tasteless powder Coffee Mate Adam.

Not even breakfast. That at least takes a bit of time. Coffee? Coffee Mate Adam could be finished (with) his coffee and out the door in a matter of minutes.

Not only is Carole still using her husband's death 19 years ago to get sympathy and attention, she supposedly had to spend the summer consoling Cassandra Grey who lost her husband. And go back at Christmas to continue consoling her, even though she had already moved on with a new girlfriend. But Bethenny? Who looses not only her boyfriend of several years but friend of 30, and in a sudden manner with no chance to say goodbye, which you at least have when someone dies of cancer? And someone that Carole herself spent time with? Not an ounce of empathy. Ice in those veins, I tell ya. I also thought that after seeing the way Carole treated Tins at the reunion, Tins and Beth will become friends. Tins has now seen the real Carole. And Beth was actually quite sympathetic at the reunion when then talked about Tins crying over a picture of her frozen eggs. Beth said something to the effect that Tins was crying over what might be, and totally understood.

Wow! I couldn't figure out until now what it was that Tins said at the end when she was obviously very upset. She screeched to Carole "Get your hands off of me!" Wow again. I don't think I have ever seen Tins this upset on the show. Un-freaking-believable that Carole was so cruel. But not really.

^^^^^ If you are referring to the tweet where Carole referred to her dead husband and friends, and hash tagged #richwhitegirlproblems as a dig to Bethenny, it is on page 81 of Carole's thread. There is a screen shot posted by AnnA about 2/3 of the way down the page.

I missed that - was it in the same clip? Personally, I wouldn't describe Carole as a girly girl. Though I would Tinsley. I would describe Carole as a sheeple who has no style of her own, and follows whatever the latest fashion is whether it suits her or not. I don't think there is a word for that. Other than thirsty. For attention.

WOW!! Just WOW! I wrote on a previous post that I didn't think Carole would stay friends with Tinsley, since Tins is of no use to her anymore. Then I saw the clip of Carole saying that she and Tins weren't really close and she hardly ever saw her. I actually felt sorry for Tinsley, who kept insisting that they were close friends. Carole just has to prove Beth wrong, even if it means throwing Tinsley under the bus. How funny that Beth kept pointing out the places Carole had Tins had gone together and Carole kept having to admit that they had gone to those places together. But they really aren't close friends and don't see each other much. Why oh why is anyone friends with this POS? Is Cassandra Grey that hard up for friends? Mind you her taste seems questionable anyway given her new girlfriend. But seriously, how can anyone look at the way Carole treats friends and want to be one?

Hmmm, that would explain the fugly track suit she wore to the party. It was first runner up as slip cover for her couch. I have wondered for the last couple of seasons with Dorinda's temper and drinking out of control, how much is grief over losing Richard, and how much was there already? I definitely think she misses the lifestyle and prestige being married to Richard brought her. And I think she on some level is ashamed of being with John. To me it is not because she thinks she is being disloyal to Richard, but because she thinks John is beneath her. As I recall, Richard and John were friends, so I think she gravitated to John because he was a friend of Richards, and understood her love for him. But this many years into their relationship, I think she treats John with disrespect, and he should cut her loose.

Exactly! Ramona was upset that Beth didn't attend her launch party for Ageless By Ramona - a product that didn't exist at the time of the party, and still doesn't! The funny thing is, in the picture of Carole in the fugly blue sequined dress and Little House on the Prairie blouse, there is a logo of Ageless By Ramona in the background. And there is a website, but no product to promote. Just Ramona. And how in the world can you promote a product that has made you look ageless (supposedly) when it doesn't actually even exist? So something made Ramona look ageless (according to Ramona) but it wasn't her product. That would make me stabby, too. And Ramona calling someone else exhausting? Pot, kettle, ironic, etc. Edited to add - I am not on Twitter but for fun checked out Carole's feed. She is still ranting and raving about Beth. Checked out Beth's page - a picture of her dogs. I am really beginning to wonder about Carole's mental stability. I also noticed that Carole has 323K followers, Beth has 1.59M. Almost 5 times as many followers as Carole. That has got to hurt Carole's massive ego.

Of the pictures of JFK Jr and Carolyn B with the other person at the car, I believe all are of Carole. Below is a pic of Carole and her mother in law at Anthony's funeral. The woman in the pictures definitely has Carole's distinctive jaw, especially in the profile pic. Lauren B. was much cuter. However they do not in any way show a close relationship, rather just that the three were going somewhere together. It could just as easily been Daryl Hannah rather than Carolyn had it been a few years earlier, and we know Carole and Daryl were not friends.

I have never associated Neil Young with grunge. He was born in 1945, so the start of his career coincided with the hippy era. He just never grew out of it, IMO. I don't mind many of the songs Young authored, I just mind him singing them. Now I have to google David Crosby - you have made me curious. Lol.

HIs death has already been deemed "undetermined" as there was no autopsy done due to religious reasons. So I doubt if blood was drawn for a tox report. The case is closed as far as the coroner/police are concerned as there was deemed to be no criminal element involved.

I was trying to figure out who Andy looks like (because it definitely doesn't look like Andy) and you are right, it does look like Obama. Bethenny OTOH looks fabulous!

Personally, my comment regarding Neil Young had to do with more things than looks. He always looks (and always has) to me like he needs a long, hot bath. I find he sticks his nose into places where it doesn't belong and acts like an authority on things that he is not. On top of that, his singing makes my ears bleed. And believe me, as a Canadian saying anything against the sainted Neil Young can be considered by some as treason - lol.

Not only is pointing out that Carole doesn't have kids in the context as to what she and Tins have in common not a wrong, others have pointed it out to Carole in what seemed like a dig. Tinsley, Luann, Ramona. Why aren't they being hung out to dry? Oh, right. Because they aren't Bethenny. Carole has shown herself to be a parasitic friend. She was BFFs with Beth until it no longer served her purpose. Or it seems until another friend - Cassandra Grey - was deemed in need of Carole's undivided attention as BFF. I guess when Cassandra's hubby was still alive, he maybe got in the way? Heck, Carole was even comforting Cassandra at Christmas, when she had already moved on with Samantha Ronan. Others have speculated that maybe Carole is trying to get some type of project going, funded by Cassandra? Now we have Dorinda, who is on the outs with Lu. What better way for Carole to stick it to Lu than to become a somewhat BFF with Dorinda? Dorinda, who has been Lu's friend for a dozen years. And to round out the Dream Team, Carole enlists Ramona. Ditzy Ramona who would be no one's idea of a member of a Dream Team. Unless that's all you've got. Even Carole's current BFF on the show Tinsley didn't join in the pile on. I doubt Carole and Tins friendship will survive now.

RIchard has been Dorinda's storyline.

Absolutely! I have never gotten the impression that Carole wanted kids, and others here have now posted times when she has said just that. Didn't Ramona say it on the boat ride from hell? I think she mentioned Avery, and then said something about Carole not understanding because she doesn't have kids. I doubt very much if Carole really wanted kids and was grief stricken that she never did, that pretty much every cast member including those who count her as a friend would point out that she doesn't have kids.

I read What Remains a dozen years ago. I did so because of the JKF Jr connection. Some here have posted regarding parts of the book where Carole talks about her childhood. I don't even remember those parts, or maybe I skipped them. I do that if I find an author going on and on about something I don't care about. Speaking of JFK Jr on an unrelated note, I see his former girlfriend Darryl Hannah married Neil Young. On a very shallow note, talk about going from one end of the spectrum looks wise, to the other. But then I have never been a Neil Young fan so don't see the attraction on any level.

I had forgotten that Anthony was diagnosed and became serile several years before he and Carole married. Thanks for the reminder. Love the first bunny GIF. That is pretty much what our remaining bunnies look like at "banana time", their favourite treat. And yes, second bunny is definitely saying Jovani! Lol. Coincidentally, he is also wearing Dorinda's clown makeup lipstick!

Did anyone else think it was odd that Dorinda said that she is now seeing a therapist once every two weeks? That she could not commit to once a week, but is fine with once every two weeks? I mean good for her for going at all - I think it is several years overdue. But what exactly would stop her from going for an hour once a week? Her only job is filming for a few months a year on RHONY. It just seemed to me like she may be going only to get people off her back regarding her drinking, but not really committing? Which is ironic since she implied that Lu only went to rehab (the first time) to get out of going to jail.

I wish they had shown the clip of Carole saying that to Aviva - lol. In Beth's case, she said it in a talking head. As far as I know, producers ask the howives questions, and what is shown is their answers. So the producer asked Beth why her friendship with Carole had waned whereas Carole's friendship with Tins had strengthened. Beth listing Carole and Tins's commonalities seems like a no brainer to me, not a dig and something that should not have been uttered out loud. OMG!!! What a mean thing to point out! Scott has never had kids? Wow. What a low blow. He must be curled up in a corner if he has read this terrible, terrible post! For some reason it is considered an insult when directed at a woman, and fact when directed at a man. In reality it is a fact for either sex. I loved your no baggage comment, Gem 10. You would not believe how many of my husband's male friends and relatives told my hubby how lucky he was to be marrying someone with no ex and no kids. As a matter of fact, friends and relatives point out to me often that I don't have kids - usually as in how lucky I am not to have kids. My sister did it just a couple of days ago and her kids are in their 40s/50s. She loves her kids, obviously, but as the saying goes a parent is only as happy as their unhappiest child, and that includes adult children. She told me that I am very lucky that I have cats - lol.