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How does no one involved with the show get how insane this sounds?

Then what were she and Vince so pissed off about?

Not only didn't she tell, but wasn't she the one urging Ridge and Katie to spend some alone time together to figure things out?

All I got out of yesterday was a happy dance at seeing Robert and Anna and a headache inducing eye roll over the scenes at the PCPD. First, Johnny can't afford a lawyer? Second, the police chief standing over him browbeating him into either accepting an attorney who should not be allowed to represent him due to the boatload of conflict of interest. It's even more obnoxious, because the writing actually acknowledged the conflict of interest. So they know, and they still went "eh, screw it, we can write him being forced to accept Scott as his defense attorney."

It certainly is from this side of the screen.

I agree. I think they absolutely put an end to Brill because of KKL's break. That led to them deciding to reunite him with Katie, and leave them be for a while. I wasn't sure they were ever going to go back there, because it was possible they'd just decided "screw it, we'll just stick with Katie and Bill." The only thing I'm really against in this story is how fast it's moved. Either that or we just haven't seen it happening in the background all this time, and Loading Dock Guy has a ton of stories he could tell us about the building awareness and tension between the two of them over the past few months or so.

But Liz actually did pay. She lost Jason, but people still want to see more pounds of flesh extracted and are pissed off at the mere thought that she might eventually end up paired up with New Guy. Sonny killed his son's father, and he lost his son for about 15 minutes. Carly gleefully covered up that murder, and she lost Michael for the same length of time. And the two of them ended up married and happy. Nik tried to have Hayden offed, and they're "in love" with no signs that she's even going to consider holding that against him. Hell, she'll probably end up being a really still alive Emily, so he'll be rewarded for this shit in the best way he could have hoped for. Franco is happily cozied up to Nina. And Dante has been handed the upper hand in the "who did worse" battle with Lulu (and poor widdle Valerie is now the biggest victim of all). Liz lost Jason. We all know he's got his ticket punched on the JaSam train (I mean, it's a local instead of an express, but he's on it), so we know she's not going to be rewarded with a real relationship with Jason. A real relationship she could have had, had she not kept the secret. Her end result is no relationship with Jason, except for co-parenting Jake - along with the included opportunities to look like the evil bitch next to Saint Sam at every turn of the story. But, oh, hey, at some point in the future, she might get a chance to have a relationship with a totally new guy who hasn't had his leg peed all over by the KeMo fans - a relationship that has nothing to do with her lie, has no relationship to that whatsoever, and was not what she set out to get or keep when she decided to keep the lie. That would be like saying that Danny is Sam being rewarded for watching Jake's kidnapping and doing nothing. In the Port Charles grand scheme of things, a lie doesn't rank very high on the crime scale. Yet, Liz actually lost something, for good, from all indications. People who literally kill in cold blood suffer short term losses and then regain all they lost (and then some). She lied about Jason to keep him. She lost him. the punishment fit the crime, and is far more than anyone else in town suffers for theirs. Now she should never be able to move on in her life? New Guy, who wasn't even here for the lie, who has no skin in the game, should shun her or stone her at the nurse's station while screaming "lying harlot!"?

To me, there's a difference between putting them in story together, and having Liz in love with the guy immediately. He can start out as a friend who supports her and move from there. Of course, again, since Nik is getting a relationship with the woman he tried to murder, it would be ridiculous for the show to act like Liz can't have a relationship because of her far lesser deeds.

Every time she shows up, she seems to look slightly different to me. I think she's had something done more than once, but, yeah she definitely looked like she's had some recent work done on this season.

In Port Charles, that goes with having a vagina.

Who says it has to start the second he walks on set? Her eventually ending up with a new relationship can be the result of her working through her issues and getting to a place where she's over the Jason shit and ready to move on to someone new. It's not like he's going to walk in the door and Liz will drag him off and screw him in the hospital showers the second she sees him.

Everything about Steffy comes across to me as "tries too hard."

Well, they could just off Spinelli. Problem solved.

I haven't spared so much as a thought to their split before now, but, I admit, I'm curious now. Maybe BryDog will get all indignant on his buddy's behalf and spill the details. On the new guy, I'll be thrilled if he's here for Liz to save her from JaSam hell. About damn time. As long as the writers don't "Ewen" him. And, hey, a love story between a doctor and a nurse on a show called General Hospital. What a novel concept!

I agree with all your points, and, especially, this. It would be so awful to see any actress have to play out the death of a child while that child was being played by their own child. I couldn't watch it, and I wouldn't blame any actress for puling her kid as soon as the story was handed down.

I haven't seen the past few episodes, since I've had my son home sick for the past three days, and it looks like there's nothing worth actually pulling them up on my DVR to watch? Is Ivy really just gone? What the hell, show? There can be only Steffy? Although... If Deacon is non-existent, and Bill is eventually going to find his way into Brooke's bed, that means both Quinn and Katie are freed up for Liam? The only two women he genuinely has chemistry with? (Although Quinn might actually break him...)

That was my thought - that Zach was showing up to honor Knight, since they seemed close.

I'll take that at this point. I'll also accept "Because...Helena."

I think that was supposed to be a mud pit they were over, and the original Ring Toss one had them trudging through a mud pit.

I think that part of the issue with the spinning speeds, too, was that sticking your legs out like that, it makes you spin a bit slower than if you bent your knees and pulled your legs into your body. I could swear I remember hearing someone telling Jenna to stick her legs out to spin slower. Apparently, it didn't occur to any of them that the slower you spin, the slower you drop. Of course, it should have occurred to them after the first time she was noticeably slower down to the ground. I think what John's downfall is this season is that, usually, he has all kinds of people around him to do his dirty work. This season, he hasn't had that luxury. So then he finds himself in a place where he has to say both Nany's and KA's names. In past seasons, he's usually managed to, for the most part, keep from saying the name of an alliance member, even while he watches others say those names after he did some behind the scenes manipulation. If he had numbers, he would have likely kept his hands clean in throwing the mission, too, probably pulling some "they'll suspect something is up if I don't do well" BS on his minions to get them to do his dirty work. He's really been down to no one, though. All he has left is Aneesa (which is the real reason he didn't throw a useless vote her way to placate KA/Anthony). I hope the producers realize that it's more entertaining watching him flail about trying to save his behind than it is watching him just get his way all through a season. Who would have ever thought we'd see a season where Cara Maria is sitting in the power position? But she really is now. It was win/win for her with whoever came back from the Pit, because both teams were now pissed off at Johnny/Vince. And Abe is still, at this point, clearly in her corner. So, if Jenna and her cousin stick with being pissed at Johnny/Vince, they have a three team alliance. Johnny has Aneesa. Cory is clearly not going to side with Aneesa, so they're out as a potential ally, unless Johnny gets really persuasive. But, given how everyone has had a ringside seat for watching him screw over Nany and KA, I can't imagine anyone is going to trust him. Cory (and his family member, whose name escapes me right now) would be wisest to sit back and watch the other two sides go at each other rather than claiming some allegiance to either side. You know that Johnny/Vince will go after CM/Jamie, and vice versa. Sit back and watch that play out, because, even if you take sides, the odds are you'll be the expendable one to either side when it comes down to it. I appreciate that CT has grown, and he was there with Diem's little sister, but it would have been awfully satisfying to watch him (or anyone) lay out Vince. Who knew Johnny wasn't the most obnoxious member of his gene pool? Oh, and who was the ass who said, of voting Jenna in, "she's been in already, so she knows it's not personal." Um, really? Sending someone in for the third freaking time isn't personal? I bet it feels damn personal to her, asshat.

It would not remotely surprise me if she had the balls to go to The Haunted Star looking for a job. "God! I'm not working with your husband any more! What is your problem? My Mom died, you know!! Geez!"

I'd honestly rather have JPL than Muhney. Ick. Ick. Ick.

Current day Sam is boring as hell. Does she even actually do anything now? How she's not either trying to help Jason get his memories of their relationship back or saying "screw it if he doesn't remember loving me," while she either finds some hot new guy to distract her with or decides to rain hellfire on her cousin for screwin her over is beyond me. She just sits there fending off her family's urge to gossip about her (currently) non-existent romance with Jason. I swear, there used to be a time when I liked Sam, and even liked JaSam, but she's currently a non-entity in her own damn story. They could replace her on set with one of her special happy meal toys and not miss much action.

Seriously. I so badly want Lulu to be like "yep, I believe it was while you were fucking my cousin in our marital bed, asshole."

I was actually finally into something Liam was saying. His speech to Steffy was a thing of beauty. I was particularly interested in his line about (and I'm paraphrasing big time here) how she kept inserting herself in his life until he was convinced he couldn't be happy if he wasn't with her. Now, on the surface, that might sound romantic (and maybe that was what the writers intended). But, if you think about it, it's actually the most accurate representation of their "love story" this show has ever displayed. Basically, she kept hounding him out of his relationships with other women until he gave in. You could interpret that as he decided she'd never leave him alone if he didn't take her back. I still will never fathom why Quinn would want Wyatt to grab onto another one of Liam's reject pile, when we all know Liam never leaves them on the pile for long. His reject pile is more like a waiting room. Just cool your heels with his brother until he gets back around to you.