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I don't think anyone was calling him stupid for not returning her feelings. The girls even acknowledged that the age difference is too big right now, at this stage in their lives. They just wanted him to hear her out. The threat to tell everyone he belonged to Maya was over the top, yes, but it also wasn't about browbeating him into a relationship with Maya, it was about just getting him to listen to her, so she wouldn't walk away from this encounter emotionally damaged. And I really didn't see them as planning out the next 5 years of his life with regard to Maya. Those girls likely know that the guy you have a crush on when you're in middle school is not the same guy you're going to want to be with when you're the age they are now. They've just lived those years. And they also likely know that you can't tell someone in Maya's shoes "you'll be over this guy before graduation," because she won't hear that now, and she'll likely just dig in deeper to prove them wrong. What those girls did was basically let Maya down gently. Yes, they forced Josh into taking part of that, but I think their hearts were in the right place, and I never got a vibe of "you have to return her feelings, and you WILL be with her as soon as it's age appropriate" off of the whole encounter.

What the hell did I just watch? Was it two grown ass adults (well, chronologically, at least) playing with those cheap ass parachute toys and acting like this was the most fun they've ever had in their entire lives? We get it, Steffy is FUN! FUN!! FUN!!! When Steffy busted out the Aspen wedding rings, I was laughing my ass off. Are we now pretending that wedding was the height of romance and not manipulation to keep him from reuniting with Hope? Are we just going to pretend that the Hope side of their "love story" just never existed? Or will we get the romantic flashbacks of Waffles dumping her ass and choosing Hope? Ivy, honey, you deserve so much better. Move on and find a real man. Wyatt at least shows some semblance of growth in telling his mother he doesn't want to do Hope Round 2 in taking crumbs from yet another woman who is still in love with his brother. Sadly, I'm sure as soon as Steffy goes to rebound to him and lick her wounds over the Waffles/Ivy marriage, he'll forget all about that, though. If not, he's officially the smartest on in that age group on this show.

Plus, I think they took into consideration that she didn't just sneak out to go party. She went because Maya was going to go whether she went with or not. Add in Riley's obvious huge dose of guilt, and they probably felt like this wasn't a time where they needed to bring down the hammer.

Really, isn't that the point of the bulk of the plots on this show?

I haven't watched today, but I assume Lucky is missing? Has anyone checked the rocks? He may still just be sitting there waiting for his next message from Jake.

I believe the issue is that if you're here on a visa, you can't leave the country and just get back in. So if you need to leave the country for a brief period, you have to get a permit that allows you to leave and re-enter the U.S.

Am I completely remembering wrong, or was Dillon actually a pro-Luke guy back before SC left? I could swear I remember him really liking Luke (maybe even more than he liked his mother). I'd buy his lines coming out of Ned's mouth, but Dillon hasn't been back long enough to see what kind of man Luke has become since he left town.

And you have to wonder if she backed out because of him or she had a genuine conflict, and this guy is just enough of a self-important douche bag to think that everything is about him. I think the fact that BU has worked with both of them and didn't hesitate to call this guy out and defend KA probably tells the story. (I know she and KA are good friends, but she could have just stayed out of it entirely instead of publicly calling the guy out for his shit.)

I'd like to think that, after she spends some time with him, she'd be as annoyed by Spencer as I am. Or at least that she'd talk to Nik about his crap parenting skills. Something. I think that 99.9 percent of what I like about this show lately is exactly that.

With Riley sitting right there with Cory, how can Angela have no idea who she is? Also, just reading over her Twitter page, it's kind of off-putting. There's a fine line between being supportive/appreciative of your fans and seeming extra desperate. I think she crosses that line a little too much.

If Quinn had any taste at all, she'd be pushing for a Steffy/Waffles reunion so her son can go after Ivy. I mean, come on.

Really, Wyatt is the son far more like Bill. (He's no Bill, but he's a hell of a lot closer than Waffles.) Judging by some previous spoilers/spec, and the description for the show on my channel guide today, I'm developing a theory on this INS thing:

"This kid has been known to hang out with that hitman for Sonny Corinthos. Of course I assumed he's a criminal!"

Oh, Waffles. You're so very, very waffle-y. Why do I have a fear that they're going to go all in with Ivy plotting with Quinn, just to throw her under the bus so Waffles can be with Steffy?

And, honestly, I don't think the little actress is bad at all. It's more in some of the writing. (Although I do think that some of her interactions with Topanga aren't that obnoxious). So it's not like if they realized that the character is annoying people that the only option is putting the actress out of work. I have a feeling that, if they wrote her better, the character would be better.

Riley's outfit is almost as bad as Angela's hair. Almost.

It's like Ron had ideas for more than one character, Frank told him they couldn't afford all of them, so Ron just threw them into the blender that spit out Sloane.

Not until either Liz or Carly tells him to. Florencia Lozano if Ron had his way? Or any party in Port Charles. Why do these people still keep showing up to big parties? Although I guess, at least this time, nobody was in actual mortal danger at the party. So..success?

I've been thinking Faison, but I'm not completely sold on him yet.

And how long did Silas have AJ? Shouldn't she have showed some sign of having been the donor? Wouldn't Sabrina, a nurse, notice something when bathing and changing the kid?

I agree, it's mostly Maya's story, and this is how Shawn relates to her. Basically, Shawn's important to the characters in the GMW universe, and Angela isn't. (Which makes sense - Shawn is Riley's "uncle" and he and Cory were the original Riley and Maya. Angela is Shawn's ex who we clearly saw left the BMW universe separately from the rest of them (her to Europe, Shawn, Cory, Topanga to NY). I do agree with everyone, though, if they make Angela out to somehow be in the wrong because she's had a life for the past 15 years, that's just ridiculous. I can see the kids who watch this though, who weren't invested in the original, but are invested in Maya getting what she wants, viewing Angela as an obstacle. Maybe those kids have heard from their parents how important she was to Shawn, and that makes them uneasy with her return.

Didn't she have a thing for Liam when she first hit town? Wasn't that the whole reason for the makeover she let Quinn give her?

I know. What I'm saying is, is the show going to necessarily portray her as a villain? I'd really only consider her villainous if she comes back, happily married, finds out Shawn is potentially interested in someone else, and, despite being married and not wanting him for herself, she tries to throw a wrench into his new potential relationship out of jealousy or some need for him to still be in love with her, so she knows he's always warming the bench if she ever wants him again. Growing apart from him because they were on different continents and they both grew in different directions (which Shawn sees as another example of someone leaving him), and coming back as an adult to talk to him about their past and maybe work through any lingering issues as she prepares for the next stage in her life isn't the show painting her in a bad light, in my opinion. And Cory and Topanga not jumping in and correcting him, especially in front of the girls, makes sense to me, on this show. This is the same show here we had an episode centered around Maya being hurt because Riley didn't defend her against being called "short" even though she is short and it came from someone she teases all the time. So the two of them letting him slide with "she left me" as a rather vaguely incomplete description of what happened to end their relationship fits into that same kind of attitude. In the end, I think this episode boils down to this: They've been working on bringing back pretty much every old cast member/character. They are intent on the Shawn/Katie thing. But, they know that some of the BMW viewers might want some resolution to Shawn/Angela before he moves on to someone else. So they bring her back to fulfill both the nostalgia and the need to move Shawn on to a new relationship. I don't think the intent is to make Angela good or bad, because it isn't about her. What they say they think people will be pissed off, I think it's more of an awareness that the shippers don't want to see her come back just so it can facilitate a move on to Shawn/Katie. Of course, I don't think this is even about Katie either. This is Shawn seeing a kid who has gotten a similar raw deal to the childhood he had, and he feels connected to this kid and wants to make it better for her.

Has Shawn ever specifically mentioned Angela as a "leaver" on GMW? I know he's talked about how he's the one who gets left, but I always took that as more a reference to his family than anything else. Yes, he could consider Angela a "leaver" as well, but I think that it isn't even a reflection on her at that point, but just his overall feeling that, other than Cory (and Topanga), everyone in his life has really left him. Angela had a reason, at least, as opposed to, say, his father, but the end result is still the same - Shawn feels like he is always being left. I'm probably not wording this right, but, in a nutshell, I don't think it's about a statement on Angela's character, but about a statement on Shawn's perspective on his life, and why he hasn't settled down with someone yet, and why he feels a bond with Maya. I would think that Shawn seeing Angela is married and contemplating starting a family would be more of a way to bring some closure to Shawn to feel like he can move on from wondering "what if" about that relationship. She doesn't have to be a villain for that to happen. Of course, I would absolutely agree with any of her fans who feel she isn't going to get any real perspective here, because this is clearly not about her. It's about Shawn working out his issues.

I almost choked at Wyatt's reassuring Ivy that "you're just as lovely as Steffy." Ummm...what? Steffy wishes she was anywhere in the same "lovely" zip code as Ivy.