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Very true! No season 11, no Flag! Oooff.

This is from the first day of school, I scrolled back and didn't see it posted. IA with the two comments about looking disheveled and wearing whatever was on the floor. She cares a lot about her own appearance but she made very little effort with them on an important day, other than they all have backpacks and their shoes are tied. OTOH are they being raised to regard fancy schmancy as meaningless and superficial? https://people.com/parents/tori-spelling-mommy-shamers-criticize-kids-appearance/

If they maintain that schedule the summer of 2018 relocation will air in January 2020. Has the show always lagged that far behind/18 months? I lose track of stuff like that. TIA

Ah, thank you. So Kody won't have to change wives because the money "belongs" to him. Lucky Robyn, what a relief. I think in most/many states an inheritance is not community property unless the parties want it to be. The mystery remains as to how/why the ownership of the property in Flag is intertwined and requires the co-owners to grant certain legal permissions to each other.

That's how I remember it, along with much discussion here (and many interviews with Treem) about how it was either/or, pick one, that's how this show rolls. Tonight I read a tweet from Treem 2 days before Episode 9 aired, where she directs viewers to two songs in that ep, whose lyrics appear to verify murder if you watch the ep through the lens of those lyrics. Going to a link within a link here took me to an August 12 TV column wherein the writer references that Alison was murdered, mystery over. Maybe he was full of shit because you'd think a TV reviewer would be current with the stand the showrunner is taking. Am I wrong in remembering that Treem was everywhere saying that it was intentionally smoke-and-mirrors ambiguous? I guess we have to scour the internet because if you base your thoughts on watching the show and 5 quotes from the showrunner, ha ha for believing them because it turns out there's a 6th quote out there that solves it but you didn't come across it. I am so lost. August 10 If you're a fan of JasonIsbell like I'm a fan of JasonIsbell, pay close attention to the songs we use in Episode 9. They'll tell you everything you need to know. _ _ _ _ _ _ The Jason Isbell songs are Cover Me Up and Live Oak. They appear to be about poor judgment and trusting the wrong people. The only music I associate with this show is Fiona Apple's theme song. I apologize if this is old news - it's new to me and I don't remember posters here referring to it. (Altho that doesn't mean they didn't, heh heh). From this November 9 link here in Spoilers ... https://tvline.com/2018/11/09/the-affair-anna-paquin-season-5-time-jump-joanie/ ... I went to this August 12 link and TV column. Granted, I don't know the reputation of the writer or the site, perhaps the writer simply chose to see murder as cause of death along with many of us here. All the columns and reviews I remember reading went the let-the-viewer-decide route and applauded and or dissed the episode. Did I mention that I am so lost? https://tvline.com/2018/08/12/the-affair-recap-ben-kills-alison-no-suicide-season-4-episode-9/

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Nice work! Gob. Smacked. Here. Please remind me, although it sounds familiar, who is Winn? Didn't know anything about how raw land is/isn't mortgaged. (I learn something here almost every day at Previously University.) Titles linked to other family members - the Brown family and Winn's family? Or just the Browns? Did you see any reference to a Brown Family Trust? Did Fat Tony marry into money? Caleb is one thing - no windfall for Fat Tony, please. LOL, will Kody divorce Robyn and legally marry the wife who's related to Winn, to cuddle up closer to the original source of the money? Holy hell, which one felt obligated to share with the others instead of running for freedom? Tear Down This Wall. Was the land entirely a cash purchase? That's close to a million right there. If/when it's paid in full, can the land be used as collateral for construction loans? It's killing me that these clowns landed in a bed of money - I bet it's killing Meri that she's air tight tied to them financially. You're savvy about this stuff - looking back, any thoughts on how the B&B might fit into this? Because, hoo boy, that whole deal showed up outta nowhere. Do the dates on the land and the sale of the ranch correlate in any way with the dates on the B&B earnest money and purchase? Christine's mom was touted as manager then, poof, she was out and Meri's mom was in and and Meri suddenly was on the road all the time. Janelle's RE license entitles her to collect commissions but pertains only to transactions in NV, right? Is she also licensed in AZ now? How do fees and commissions fit into this? Surely they want any available commissions to go to a Brown. Hmmm. The plot thickens. And TIA for answering any of my flurry of questions and anything you are able to add to this.

OK, Small Talkers, in the spirit of what this thread is for, I look forward to reading what you might decide to share. Who are the immigrants in your family? Do you have funny or sad or heartwarming stories? I figured I'd start this angle because immigrants have always been an issue in every country. Our Canadian friend oakville has mentioned his Greek heritage and his dad being fished out of the drink during WWII. Every immigrant has a face and a name and a story and they belong to someone. Do you have Native American heritage? I have some Cherokee on my mom's side but she said I lost my share with my first nosebleed, heh heh. Was your family here during the Civil War? My mom's people were. Did your immigrant ancestors serve in the wars of their adopted countries? Which ones? Were they respected while doing it, for doing it? My dad enlisted in the Army Air Corps (before it became the Air Force) the day after Pearl Harbor. I hope this doesn't bore everyone. If so, I will slink away ... oakville recently said he saw my username on a hockey sweater in a store. In Finnish, Suomi = Finland. The language most closely related to Finnish is Estonian and Finns and Estonians can understand each other. Hungarian is also related to Finnish but Hungarians and Finns can't understand each other so I don't get how that supposed relation works. (All three are Uralic languages). In 1918 my Finnish grandpa emigrated to America because he feared being conscripted during the Russian Civil War when both sides were grabbing anyone they could get, Russian or not. (Finland shares a border with Russia). Remember, in Dr Zhivago, when Yuri was snagged by the partisans while he was riding his horse from Yuryatin to Varykino? Like that. It happened every day. Grandpa came through Ellis Island and sent for his wife a year later after he earned the money for her passage. She came through Canada and I suspect she was illegal because the family goes radio silence when I ask about Ellis v Canada. They settled in Michigan's Upper Peninsula where 14 of their 15 kids were born (their first baby died in Finland). Finns are notoriously reticent so they like their space and their forests and the UP, like Finland, was (and still is) sparsely populated and heavily forested. The men worked as loggers and iron ore and copper miners. My dad didn't learn English until he started school when he was 6. He was scared to death because some older boys told him the teachers were mean. So he was very relieved the first day when his teacher greeted him in Finnish with a big smile and a gentle manner. She said "Welcome, little one. Today we will use the language you know but tomorrow you will start learning to be an American and we speak English in the classroom because it will help you in life." True to her word, she never spoke Finnish again and he said learning English was a breeze because she was so kind and patient. Storekeepers hired first generation kids because they were bi-lingual and translated for the Finnish, Swedish, Cornish and Italian housewives who shopped in town. (My dad raved about everyone who played the immigrant roles in Godfather II because they were authentically groomed and dressed and looked like the immigrant Italians in his town). Grandpa Jaakko (for Jacob, pronounced Yahko) was an iron ore miner but he wanted better for his sons so during high school my dad got a job in the grocery store and he enjoyed observing the daily parade of characters. Immigrant adults learned some English but usually relied on Finnglish; a few (like Grandpa) spoke English well. There were some sounds they couldn't pronounce, like "sh" and "th." Anyway, long freakin' story short, my dad got a kick out of the elders who were unintentionally funny. A lot of us have trouble with idioms in our own language let alone another language, right? When you thanked them for doing something nice, like holding a door open for you, older Finnish men wanted to say something more than "You're welcome," something like "No biggie" or "Think nothing of it." But what came out was "Oh, sit, dat ain't nuttin'." (Oh, shit, that ain't nothin' ... they evidently had no problem learning naughty words). So my dad heard that every day in the grocery store and around town and he and I always said it to each other: daily life, opening gifts on Christmas morning, always. He was bi-lingual for life and I used to trip the hell out listening to him when he called his parents every Sunday until they died. He's gone now and I really miss the old coot. Say ya to da UP, eh?

This. I started to get a complex and feel brain dead because it seemed like I was the only one who didn't "get" the concept of no personal politics. I struggled with complimenting and chiming in with what is said on the show (because politics) or snorting at and disagreeing with what is said (because politics). That's why I went shallow and snarky awhile back because it was safe. (Also, I was very intimidated by everyone's knowledge and grasp of facts because there are some very fine minds here). The explanations and examples today have helped more than anything I've seen in 4+ years. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

Found a nice Hallmark card (with a cheery orange envelope) at the dollar store: Hope you're feeling GREAT by the time you get this card That way, instead of a "Get Well" card it can be a "Glad You're All Better" card! Sent it this afternoon. :)

I read it in '71 and loaned it to someone who never returned it. I noticed that the NYT article says Amazon has used copies for $100 - yeah, paperback - hardcover starts at $575! I pre-purchased the ebook for $10. Score! Amazon's Kindle samples are skimpy but the website samples are generous. What appears to be the entire first chapter is available on the product page. (Scroll down). Tip o' the hat to Rach for getting this re-issued. https://smile.amazon.com/Night-Camp-David-Fletcher-Knebel-ebook/dp/B07J47PHTR/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541750243&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=night+at+camp+david

Woot to Maddie and her post. Women raise each other up when they speak the truth about unfair, unrealistic expectations. Makes me wonder if her next home birth will be less of a spectator sport than the first one was, when the fame whores/parents horned in on an event that belonged to Maddie and Caleb.

"Let's get it started, in here"

I think everyone is used to talking about Joe/Mika in this Small Talk thread but it sounds like the Small Talk policy is changing. If we're not supposed to do that anymore in Small Talk then I like the idea of having a Hosts thread because we gotta talk about them somewhere. It would be bad for our health to hold it in! So I voted Yes on Proposition 1

Haven't we all worked with, or known, or been in-laws with a Meghan McCain? It is well and good that we have each other while enduring a collective "that one."

Especially because broken ribs don't heal quickly even in younger people and she will lose her hard won strength and mobility while she mends. No exercising, having to move slowly and carefully. Two bouts with cancer and now a second set of broken ribs. Gah! I am so bummed for her. Light bulb! Let's send get well cards! We don't need her street address - when Eric Clapton's young son died he received thousands of cards from all over the world addressed simply to Eric Clapton, London, England. We can do this! Maybe not funny cards tho - don't make her laugh (ouch, no). Associate Justice Ginsburg Supreme Court of the United States 1 First St NE, Washington, DC 20543

She damn well better have lost about 40 pounds or else we suffered through Dining With Eeyore por nada.

I've been wondering about that too. It seems like it would have to be addressed unless filming was done in a series of fairly short time spans. Because, really, with her only kid gone from home I can't see the Meri branch having much to offer and I hope Living Her Why isn't her main contribution. I've started looking forward to the new season but I won't be surprised if when Fat Tony and Moody Mykelti ruin it for me.

Dolly/Truvy in that movie, offering to buy a pair of shoes from Olympia/Clairee: "What size you wear?" Well, in a good shoe I wear a size 6 but a 7 feels so good I buy a size 8." "They're 8 and a half." "Perfect." I wear a 9 and a couple times at a picnic when someone asked me what size I said "6." I LOL after they pretended not to goggle at my feet, because one of us damn sure needed an eye exam, while trying to hide their goggling. Good times.

Heh heh, I didn't watch so I figured you were hinting that Kelly looked different because she got "refreshed" and it hadn't quite settled yet. I thought "Medicine Crow is so nice, to mention it in such a gentle way." LOL

ITA, Tunia. "Tough little bird," LOL, she would love that. Broken ribs are so painful. Welp, now I know whose DVD I'm gonna watch this afternoon - "Hero. Icon. Dissenter." This was the best part of the article:

Oh no! For those who haven't heard, Notorious RBG had a fall at work last night, went home, went to hospital with discomfort this morning, admitted with 3 broken ribs. :( :( :( https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ginsburg-85-hospitalized-after-fracturing-3-ribs-in-fall/ar-BBPtRf3?li=BBnb7Kz

Not as soon as we did, evidently.

I don't know how I never saw this before. I feel like I hit google's Mega Millions. The photo, my goodness. I wish I knew what year he shared his bonus with her. This happened on the show so I hope it's OK to post it in the episodes thread. https://newrepublic.com/article/79832/morning-joe

Yes, (my man) Jeremy Bash dismissed Joe's premise in the intro to his segment and then made reasoned, plausible points re avenues/recourses for protecting Mueller from the same fate. State time v federal time for T's family came up and state jurisdictions being as capable as the feds and of course T can't can't pardon state time. The kicker was JB said Mueller could legally speak publicly about the investigation if he is relieved of his assignment. (I don't think I've heard that before, anywhere). Not only that he could speak, but that he would have a moral and (IIRC) legal obligation to do so! And that, given his long career of honorable public service, JB very much looks forward to hearing what he has to say. Hey, not for nothing was JB Chief of Staff at CIA and the DoD! The hack who replaces Sessions came to T's attention via his appearances on and columns he wrote for CNN. Given that T relieved CNN's Jim Acosta of his WH press credentials yesterday, the irony is rich indeed. I wish I could recall the segment better but I was dazzled by JB's, ahem, expertise and sleepy because morning comes early around here. Maybe someone else will recap it better. :)