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This interview with GS also talked about Arrow/Flash crossovers (warning: if you read entire article, it includes Flash spoilers)... ‘The Flash’ Producer Gabrielle Stanton Talks Speed Force and Jay Garrick in Season 2 BY CHRISTINA RADISH 20 HOURS AGO http://collider.com/the-flash-season-2-gabrielle-stanton-interview/

Also from B at https://twitter.com/brattyb2/status/633815313717465088... "Shut up Steve" "You don't even belong in the same universe"

Winners of Golden Trio Awards (announced at http://www.itsjustaboutwrite.com/2015/08/1st-annual-just-about-write-golden-trio_19.html) include the following: Original Team Arrow won BROTP of the Year SA won Social Media King EBR won Social Media Queen SA won Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series DR won Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series EBR won Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series Arrow won Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series Arrow won Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series

Plot synopsis for 3x12 (wait, Barbie has a child already?)... CBS Upcoming Episode Press Releases - Various Shows - 18th August 2015 Posted by Bradley Adams at Tuesday, August 18, 2015 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/08/cbs-upcoming-episode-press-releases.html

Is this a new trend - making TV shows about doomed queens as teenagers? First, we have the CW's Reign (about Mary, Queen of Scots), and now Cleopatra... ‘Cleopatra’ Series In The Works At Slingshot Global Media by Denise Petski August 18, 2015 10:00am http://deadline.com/2015/08/cleopatra-series-shakhur-kapur-slingshot-global-media-1201500627/

I really don't like the Shakespeare comparison. IIRC, Shakespeare's plays were either tragedies, histories, or comedies. In other words, his non-historical dramas all ended tragically. So is Arrow a tragedy or a comedy? Given the EPs' love for Joss Whedon shows, I think they're going the dark and twisted route every time. So is Oliver destined to make the same mistakes over and over again... and end up alone? I really hope not.

Two more interesting articles from Laura Hurley... Devil’s Advocate #4: Sara/Oliver as Arrow’s OTP Aug 18, 2015 6:01 am http://laurawritesabout.tumblr.com/post/126984959725/devils-advocate-4-saraoliver-as-arrows-otp lisam100 asks: What do you think of the relationship between Laurel and Felicity? Personally, their 'bonding' scenes in S3 really irritated me. It felt forced and came out of nowhere. I'm terrified that the writers are going to make them friends in S4. Talk about awkward. Under the circumstances, I think it's a bad idea. What do you think the writers will do/should do with that relationship? Aug 18, 2015 12:52 am http://laurawritesabout.tumblr.com/post/126971144306/what-do-you-think-of-the-relationship-between

I think I said before that I thought Laurel might quit the DA's Office and rejoin CNRI (or similar organization), which would dovetail with Oliver's entering politics, because then they could both fight for social causes and the underprivileged.

Warning: includes episode spoilers... How ‘Constantine’ Fits Perfectly Into the ‘Arrow’ Universe Nick Cannata-Bowman August 17, 2015 http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/how-constantine-fits-perfectly-into-the-arrow-universe.html/?a=viewall

Warning: spoilers re Arrow episode... How ‘Constantine’ Fits Perfectly Into the ‘Arrow’ Universe Nick Cannata-Bowman August 17, 2015 http://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/how-constantine-fits-perfectly-into-the-arrow-universe.html/?a=viewall

5 reasons to get excited about The CW's new show, 'Vixen' by Lauren Gallaway Aug 18, 2015 | 10:45AM http://community.ew.com/2015/08/18/vixen-the-cw-the-flash-and-arrow/

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Stardust and KIng Barrett give warning to SA... SA's response... https://twitter.com/amellywood/status/633469581378482176 7:40 PM - 17 Aug 2015 https://twitter.com/amellywood/status/633468477412536320

https://twitter.com/JamesBamford/status/633325701395955712

Here's the pic for anyone having trouble with the link:

https://twitter.com/CW_Arrow/status/633319044548980736

To clarify my previous comments, I wasn't saying that I wanted to see more training scenes with Laurel. I was saying that WM's comment about her learning curve being over was inconsistent with the message (communicated by Oliver) that heroes have to train and improve continuously in order to stay alive. We don't see Oliver train all the time, but we know he does it. We don't see Diggle working out all the time, but it's clear he does as well. WM could've conveyed the idea that Laurel is now a competent BC without making it sound like she's stopped learning anything. Here's another thought - the fifth episode (4x04, 4x05 or whatever) is supposed to have significant Constantine/Laurel interaction. If it turns out that MR and KC have major chemistry (and if the ratings are high), I can see them bringing him back for future episodes and have Laurel get into magic.

I'm not sure even Weaver will make it to the end. For some reason, I picture him getting mortally wounded in battle and, with his dying breath, telling Tom to "earn this". As for Maggie, I think the love triangle will end with either Maggie or Isabella dying while saving Hal's life.

If that episode does really well in the ratings, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to bring him back for future episodes on Arrow - or maybe even on Flash or Legends of Tomorrow.

Just read the spoiler that Donna Smoak is showing up in 4x06. That's the same episode where, according to MG, they're going to explain the whole time line with respect to the PT building explosion and Oliver/Felicity's journey away from Starling City. So I wonder if Oliver & Felicity make a pit stop in Las Vegas.

Jon Stewart will be hosting WWE Summerslam 2015... WWE Summerslam 2015 Fight Card, Guest Host & More PPV Event Information Revealed By Staff Reporter (staff@latinpost.com)First Posted: Aug 18, 2015 06:34 AM EDT http://www.latinpost.com/articles/72614/20150818/wwe-summerslam-2015-fight-card-guest-host-more-ppv-event-information-revealed.htm

I really don't understand WM's response that "There's no more learning curve" for Laurel. Remember when Oliver was trying to teach Barry and, iirc, saying that he's always training, always learning? That's what he had to do to stay alive. I'm not a martial artist, but I believe those who are still train and learn and try to get better, no matter how good they are. Now it sounds like the EPs have thrown Oliver's whole message away. WM should've given a better response, one that's more consistent with the idea of continual improvement. I agree that the quick hero journeys of Laurel, Roy and Thea have undermined Oliver's long hero journey. As for Laurel's struggling with issues as an ADA, I wonder if TPTB have spies monitoring fan boards because some of us were complaining last season about her hypocrisy in prosecuting lawbreakers by day and being a lawbreaker herself at night (and even before that, when she went after the purportedly abusive boyfriend with a bat). I think that Laurel will have plenty of screentime in 4A. In addition to being part of Team Arrow 2.0 as the "fully arrived" BC and grappling with her secret identity and ADA issues, she'll have the whole Sara resurrection story and dealing with her father (Lance family drama), she'll apparently play a major role in launching LoT, she'll have some issues with Oliver (per SA), and she supposedly has "one big development" that MG couldn't talk about (as of SDCC time). It's 4B where they'll have to come up with new story ideas for Laurel.

Here's a fan montage of scenes from Montana Sky (CR is easy to spot, she played the city sophisticate sister who wanted to return to her Hollywood life asap)...

I thought Into the Badlands was notable for having its lead hero being an Asian male - very unusual for American TV. Granted, it's an Asian male doing martial arts, which is the stereotypical depiction of Asian men in Hollywood, but still, they're usually bad guys, henchmen or supporting roles.