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Hey y'all, come check out my new poll, here. It's about the Newmans versus Claire and Aunt Jordan.

In the new storyline with Claire and Aunt Jordan, spumor has it that one of the Newmans will end up dead. Speculation and rumors must be taken with a grain of salt of course, but let's pretend this one turns out to be true. Of the Newmans dealing with Aunt Jordan and Claire, which one would you most like to see not survive the ordeal: Victor, Nikki, Victoria, or Nick? You can express your will in this handy poll which will close in about 24 hours. Please vote only once.

Guess Margo is nearsighted. Was Miles watching the same old videos of his family on repeat? Ed is starting to look like he's going to a reenactment of the shootout at the OK Corral. Dev had all the swagger, retaking Helios and GTFOing everybody--by name. Looks like Miles has a burgeoning new career as a fixer. Margo went through some hell and ended up entering her Valhalla. But why did they have to park so far away? That'd be a rough walk even for someone who wasn't dealing with a bad leg or hip.

Hi Bob! It was a little jarring to me to hear them call a day on Mars "Sol" because on Raised by Wolves "Sol" was what the nutty religious space cult called their highest deity. The powers that be didn't waste any time developing a class system on Mars. Dani immediately picked up on the developing problems while Ed was maintaining a certain blindness to the have nots. Meh, who has time for cake? 😉 Kelly and Aleida had never met before. Huh. Aleida's daughter mean-mugging hungover Kelly was cute. What a sorry secret space bar. The homemade vodka looked like pee, lol.

I dunno, I think when they SORASed Nick and AH was recast as Victoria, the age difference was narrowed. I'd put Nick in his mid- to late 40s and Victoria in her early 50s. Heh, I barely remember AMC back that far. What I do recall in the waning years is a similar scene with Brooke and Adam. I remember being shocked because I figured Adam Chandler was too high and mighty to be such a generous lover, even for the love of his life. Same way I see Victor Newman now. (I know the show's party line is that Victor is amazing in bed but I bet it's mostly an equipment thing versus technique. 😉)

Poor Aleida. There's never a good time to have a panic attack. Bet Miles' wife will end up pregnant from that bon voyage sex. (I just found out the actor playing Miles is English. He does a decent generic American southern accent. A lot of Brits overexaggerate the drawl, IMO.) There was a throwaway line about Howard Stern. He's still on the air in this timeline? That's hilarious. So does Ed have Parkinson's? It's funny to me how they've tried to make him looked bedraggled. Sorry, producers of For All Mankind; Joel Kinnaman's foine remains undefeated. Spumors say it'll happen in Russia instead of the US, and the Saudis won't be behind it. We'll see, I guess.

Finally got around to watching yesterday's "classic" episode. Those opening credits seemed so avant-garde back in day. All that big hair blowing in the mysterious breeze, ha ha. Wonder what ever happened to the set that used to be Gina's restaurant? I think at times it's been Gloworm, Nick's bar, and Neil's jazz club. I think parts of it were used for Noah's nightclub too. Maybe it's Society now, with a lot of remodeling and brighter lighting. I didn't remember Nick ever having blond hair. He took after Nikki, at least until he got SORASed. Cute kid. Lol, Traci stepped to Lauren with no chill. Too bad sassy Traci eventually turned into the Abbott family Mother Hen she is now. The infamous Eve Howard. It's hard for me to imagine what led Victor to have affair with her. She came across to me like the Bizarro World version of Nikki. Brrr. The staging of the scene where Nina was in bed trying to convince Ryan to come over was rather daring. She was holding the phone with one hand and it was sorta implied her other hand was under the bedspread. Under the bedspread doing some, um, personal things. I doubt Y&R could get that scene approved for daytime TV broadcast today. 🤯

Aw Vic, you know in your heart you can't trust Stacy. She's just like Charlie Brown's Lucy: she'll keep moving the WITSEC football. Claudia, you idiot. Now Vic is gonna rat you out too. You should 've never confessed to setting up that hit on your father and Vic. That's the kind of secret you take to your grave. Tommy would've been wiser to put that idiot D-Mac under the military school. Looked like Diamond wanted to cap D-Mac himself, ha ha. Calm down, Stacy, and listen to Bobby. Tommy is playing 3-D chess with you and you're still on checkers. Tommy is unbelievable. He used the cops to do a raid on the Serbs and Claudia, his major competition. Ruh roh, Stacy. Bobby told you to stop tripping over Tommy. OMG! Tommy killed Claudia! Or did he....😏 Ehh, Tommy, you should have ended Vic when you had the chance. Vic would rather be dead than go to prison, and Stacy will not let up on trying to use him to get to you. Ditto comments upthread, Miguel wouldn't kill his own sister, would he? I bet he has her locked in a basement dungeon so she can keep giving him his insulin shots. Heck of a season finale. Weird cliffhangers galore. One can only hope. Bobby is to good for Stacy, in several ways. Yeah, a pacifier dipped in meth.

E9 Shanti is dressing much better since she's been in cahoots with Claudia. More sleek Ann Taylor-ish stuff versus baggy athletic wear. Of course Darnell screwed up at the military school. It's a wonder he lasted as long as he did. Did Che actually say to Tommy, "I respect your awesome"? Lol. Jenard coming in clutch with the DOC investigator. He and Diamond lie like they breathe. Okay, Leon's father ratted Diamond out. And now he's dead. Snitches get stitches--or baptized with extreme prejudice. JP have you met Kate before? You tell her to stay away from Darnell, she'll make a beeline right to him. Even if she knows it'll risk his life. Elise is a real one. You can't beat a Birkin bag full of $$$$ in clean cash. Whoa, get it Stacy. Hope your janitorial staff wipes off your desk after you and Bobby leave. (Guess reddit didn't like it though. Someone over there said Bobby and Stacy were "cringe to the max." Heh.) Ya burnt, Vic. WITSEC doesn't take dead people. I think Tommy likely followed Vic to the meet. There's a theory afoot that Diamond will make D-Mac kill King Kilo's nephew.

I am able to discern the difference between an actor and the character they play. I referred to Mamie because I meant her and not the actress who portrays her. Similarly, I understand a head writer's function. I also notice what JG in particular does with virtually all of the characters' dialogue since he's taken on most of the Y&R writing task. I think he uses dialogue either to shortcut plot development or drag it out. That said, in my view what's going on with Mamie is mostly her characterization and she's one of several characters I simply don't like. It's been noted elsewhere in the soap forum world that the episode provides a bit of background on the history between Victoria, Cole Howard, and Eve Howard. Allegedly that history will become relevant in the impending storyline involving Claire, Jordan, Cole, and some Newmans.

Abby mentioned the Newmans! Victor finally contacted her but apparently she's still mostly in the dark about what's been going on with them. Sigh. Is bourbon & burgers a thing IRL? Maybe those were turkey burgers, tee hee. Billy hates pumpkin pie. Right there with ya, William. (My chagrin tho.🫤) Dang, my guy Tucker was baring his whole soul to Audra. Yeah, put your body in it, playboy. Where did they dig up Kevin? Yay, Michael's back! And there's crazypants Gloria too. Mamie, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP! Seems to me you consider "family" the easiest marks for whatever b.s. you're trying to sell. "You can love and hate someone at the same time." Audra, sweetie, go home. You're drunk. Wait, so Harrison is spending Thanksgiving with Summer? Does that mean he's also stuck with Grandma Phyllis? Summer's daddy and grandpa are on their way to Oregon, and Daniel is with Lily. Poor little Harrison. Free Tara! Devon and Lily kept trying to pin Mamie down and she kept deflecting with her same coy platitudes. Gah, I can't stand her. 😡 Glissade. (The closed captioning said "Glaçade." Sounds like a new brand of gelato.) Ashley came in sideways with that, handing Tucker the company they had bought together in Europe. She's probably had Glissade loaded with some kind of corporate poison pill so Tucker better be wary of Abbotts bearing gifts. Chancellor Industries is Jill's company. If Kay had wanted Devon or Tucker to have it she would've left it to them in her will. I can see Jill perhaps agreeing to be bought out but the Winters et al ain't simply entitled what she owns. Mamie thinks saying the same stupid thing over and over will eventually make it true. FYI, on Thanksgiving CBS will air a classic episode of Y&R from 1993, and Friday's episode will be preempted for a college football game. Have a safe and happy holiday, everyone! 🦃

Re today's previews for next week: Aunt Jordan is savage! I bet if she invites you over for coffee you end up with something like this: I definitely read the iffy subtext of the staging of that photo. However, I decided to give the show the benefit of the doubt. During the episode today it was clear Lily was hosting and Abby just decided to wear white for some reason. <shrugs>

And another thing. Why is Abby sitting in the middle of the Winters family Thanksgiving photo in her white outfit like she's the hostess or something? They're in Lily's penthouse so I would've expected her to be in the prominent position, not Abby. Meanwhile, was Daniel lost? He looked to me like he was Photoshopped in, ha ha.

Lol, no, they're not actually married. I was just annoyed at the photo posted upthread of Chelsea with the Abbotts on Thanksgiving. It seemed to me Devon is as much if not more of an Abbott family member than Chelsea since he and Abby live together and are raising their son as a a committed couple. Chelsea is only the person who drugged and raped Jack's brother years ago, and then decided to tell Billy and Victoria's tween son--the result of that rape--that she was his bio-mommy. AFAIC Jack's argument against Devon was invalid. And so was Ashley's when she insisted Tucker deserved to attend the Abbott Thanksgiving fete merely because he's Devon's estranged daddy. It's a holiday dinner FFS, not the GC version of the Six Degrees of Separation game. 🤡

I liked Diane's Thanksgiving dinner dress. Great color for her. Jack: ...Tucker is the ass we all thought he was. Joi: Jackie. Such language! Will we need to have Mrs. Martinez wash your mouth out with Palmolive? Audra's hair looked gorgeous today, I thought. Meanwhile, Victoria's cat eye eyeliner. Meh. Nikki sniffed the water bottle before she drank and decided it was safe. However, isn't vodka odorless? And, the liquid moves noticeably differently in a container compared to water but Nikki was too parched to pay attention that much. She really should just drink out of the sink. Claire called Victoria "Mrs. Newman" and Victoria didn't correct her. Hmm. Huh, so JG didn't forget about Nikki's MS. 😐 Whatever, Kyle. You and your aunt Ashley have never been particularly chummy. You're not fooling Tucker. He has your number and hers. Lol, I wonder what Claire did to disable the Newman jet, unleash a bag of snakes in the fuselage? But Jack, Devon is also family; he's your niece Abby's husband. I would expect Devon and Abby to make an appearance at the Abbott dinner, especially since her Newman side has forgotten she exists. (Too bad because Victor could borrow Devon's jet, hah hah.) Whoo, Audra could barely contain her contempt for Kyle. She looked at him like, "How did I ever let this overconfident nepo idiot inside me?" I'm not familiar with CZ's work on ATWT but I'm impressed with her performance as Jordan so far. Jordan is smoothly devious and IMO it was nice to see her playing TGVN for a fool. AFAIC Victor's overdue for a boatload of comeuppance. Cole Howard! Alrighty then, bring on the revisiting old history messiness!

Out of curiosity I googled famous redhead actresses to see who else could play Phyllis' mother. Most of them are either too young or they're gone. However, Ann-Margret is still kicking (😏) and according to IMDb she's continuing to get roles. I bet Y&R could afford her.

Finally, a scene with Jill and Chance. Seem like it's been years. Diane was still encouraging Kyle to scheme behind Jack's back to get the Jabot co-CEO job. Sigh. It's an unforced error, Di. Yeah, whatever, Devon. How many times before have you told Tucker you were done with him? I tried to use my calculator to do the math but I kept getting a memory overflow error. 🙄 Other than the sorta underhanded way he's been going about it, I don't see a problem with Tucker having a stake in C/W. It makes as much sense to me as Mamie investing in C/W without telling Lily and Devon upfront. Ha, Tucker worked Ashley like a pro. I noticed his little smirk when she stomped away from his table in a huff. Chance with no corporate experience possibly working at C/W, versus Nate? After his recent firing from NE, Nate's already feeling some type of way about GC nepo babies. A storyline with them competing could be amazing. Do it, JG! Ashley, you need to stop discussing your plans wrt Tucker around your older brother. Jack's just going to keep fretting while he makes his trademarked grimace. Kyle, you're heading into the lion's den if you think you're going to get the best of Tucker. He sees your bouffant coming down Broadway on Thanksgiving. Hello, Nate! You just found out your smiling auntie is as shady as Tucker. (And I think she's probably in cahoots with Victor too.) You keep betting on the wrong team, Partless.

I was watching a new comedy movie called Old Dads (Netflix). Guess who popped up as the young girlfriend of a middle-aged guy: Reign Edwards, formerly B&B's Nicole Avant. And while I was marveling over what a great wig Reign had on, guess who popped up next: Katrina Bowden, formerly Wyatt Spencer's girlfriend Flo Logan. It was like a small B&B reunion, lol.

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OMG, no, never mind on the Adam & Claire hookup! My brain must've been affected by the Grey Goose IV I've got on slow drip. 😏

^^^All of this, especially the Claire and Adam hooking up part. I think Sally needs some competition for Adam's attention. Plus, if Claire wasn't lying about her Stanford education, she and Adam will have even more in common, that is: the only Newmans who don't have to rely on their last name to get a job in the business world. ETA: Noooooooooooooooooooooooo! Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

Geez, I hope the appearance of Daniel's condo isn't Sally's work yet. Those colors and fabrics were totally fug to me. Ditto comments upthread, poor knocked out Nikki looked raggedy. Gosh. Not sure why Daniel was also encouraging Summer to pursue Chance. What's it to him? Sharon said Chance looked wonderful. Woman, hush. Chance was FINE AF, as he always is. 🥰 Summer seemed to have gotten a sus vibe from Heather if that "say what now?" look on her face was any indication. Right there with ya, Summer. Nate told Lily, Devon, and Jill the total unvarnished truth about getting fired by Victor. Good. There really wasn't any point in him trying to spin the story. Shut up, Mamie. The cousins can reconcile without Nate returning to C/W. You are not the family's big baller, shot caller you think you are. Today we learned Abby visited Chance when he was in the hospital but we didn't get to enjoy the scene. Darn. So Claire knows Nikki is an alcoholic and is using her illness to control her. However, wouldn't mainlining vodka right into someone's veins kill them? <shudder> Sharon was seriously not pleased to see Summer sashay into Society. Or to watch Chance grinning at Summer like she was dessert. Sucks to be you, Sharon, lol. Dang, Abby, pump the brakes. You're not Chance's relationship manager. Leave Summer alone and let the two of them work out their obvious attraction to each other. Nina mentioned Chance's apartment. When will we ever see it though? 🤔 Aunt Jordan! She isn't just a figment of Claire's nucking futz imagination. Let's go!

Man, I am loving all these theories about Claire. When was the last time the viewers were so intrigued by a storyline?

Hey, Tucker! 🥰🤗 An old-fashioned can opener. Huh. You'd think Claire would've only provided Nikki cans with pull-tab lids. Whatever, I'm impressed fancy Mrs. Newman still knew what a can opener was. Jill certainly took the news of Mamie and Tucker's joint financial forays into C/W with good humor. I don't know about Audra and Tucker sitting in the middle of the GCAC dining room scheming. They might as well have been doing a live webcast. Pshht, Victor accusing Vikki of bringing her personal business into the office was rich given what he just pulled with his fake illness. I guess he only meant romantic stuff but she's been doing that for decades, and so have Nick, Adam, and Nikki. Whatever, Victor. 🙄 Claire's a nutbag out for revenge for things which happened eons ago. Check. JG must have a basic storyline he simply recycles by changing the name of the villain. Victor, your oldest daughter is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. She has plenty. (Nevermind that the original source of her money is the trust fund you created for her.) She could easily walk away if she weren't so convinced she's the rightful heir to the NE throne--a notion you've long encouraged. Wow, Tucker 100% predicted what Diane advised Kyle to do: spy on Tucker while pretending to be on his hostile takeover team. Eventually Jack would gratefully reward Kyle with the co-CEO job. But if Diane doesn't tell Jack what's up, that'll put her at risk of losing his trust, no? Ruh roh, Jill. Tucker ain't scurred so maybe you should be worried. Meanwhile, hon, you might want to invest in sturdier undergarments. The girls were hella saggy today. Daniel, you are not trying to worm your way around Tucker. Your mommy may have momentarily gotten the best of him but you would not be so lucky. FOH, game boy. Look out world, Victoria Newman's about to spin out! Whee!!! 🥳😵‍💫 Hostage Nikki must've been on some amazing drugs if she hallucinated Victor's presence but it turned out to be a weird little doll. Eek.

I barely remember Cole Howard but his return would be an interesting blast from the past. J. Eddie Peck was a hot piece back in day. According to the googles he's 65 now so I think it'd be fun to see if he's held up as well as Linden Ashby (Cameron Kirsten) has. It's mystifying, right? Victor's kids were on the verge of shipping him off to a rest home and no one bothered to bring Abby in on the matter. I'm surprised Adam at least hasn't told her. He tends to view Abby as a kindred "outsider" since she also isn't Nikki's spawn.