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May I ask a) what's the difference?, and b) how the show indicated it was one versus the other? I vaguely recall that I figured it was steroids because of Ed's anger issues.

And we're back, sorta. There are some Wednesday posts missing, including mine. Anyhoo, I guess I better understand what Nikki has been going through because I was having withdrawals from not being able to use this site. 🥴😵😵‍💫🥴😵‍💫

KMN, it's Baby, Baby, Baby Tuesday. Stuff a sock in it, Victor. Tucker, my guy, did you forget how Phyllis already stabbed you in the back? And you paid her for the privilege? Don't poke the snake. Okay, so Jack is basically punishing Kyle for acting like he was too good for the COO position. Real mature, Jackie. Nikki should've told Victor she saw Jordan outside the window. Too bad she was more concerned about hiding the flask she dropped on the floor. Yikes, Cole. Eve's nutbaggery was way more than a quirk. You're lucky you turned out okay and relatively successful in life in spite of being raised by her. Don't feel obliged to sugarcoat what you went through just to make Claire feel better. Dang, I was amazed Kyle didn't climb up Jack's hiney, pour out some gasoline, and turn on a flamethrower. Is there anyone in the Abbott family Jack doesn't suspect of trying to help Tucker? O hai Diane. Ehh, I feel like Tucker is up to something sneaky with Phyllis--or he thinks he is. That way lies folly, Tucker. Red can't be trusted for any amount of money. Again I wondered whether the GCAC has more than the one door in and out. Even in disguise, Jordan likely won't be able to keep walking through the lobby without one of the Newmans or Cole recognizing her. Lol, Kyle you better get your promotion to co-CEO in writing. I have a feeling Jack will renege on his verbal promise if your plan to take down Tucker fails. After Cole told Vikki he's staying in GC due to Claire's situation, she had a look like, "Well, I need to schedule a Brazilian wax immediately." Even way back when they conceived Claire, Cole preferred a clean workspace. 😏 Whaaat? How did Jordan know exactly where Claire was? I sure hope it wasn't their plan to meet up GC if things in OR went sideways.

I don't know why Billy would think that because I don't think Jill told him he was getting the CEO job. If she had I'm sure they would've had a conversation about why he was replacing Lily or Devon. And, Billy probably doesn't know Lily's out of town indefinitely because of Mattie's situation. Meanwhile, has Jill told Devon about either Billy or Chance coming to work at CW? I could see him having issues with both of them. Brain bleach, stat. Right? AFAIC, there's no coming back from someone sneaking up and jabbing you in the neck with a hypodermic full of knock-out juice. The vodka IV was just icing on the horror cake. I learned a new term today, "D.A.B." It means "drunk ass bitch" and I immediately thought of Nikki when I heard it. Oddly though, Nikki hasn't been particularly nasty when she's been drinking, not yet anyway. Wonder if the show will let that side of her come out to play again?

I knew that but what I didn't understand why in the skit they kept mentioning 17 over and over and over. They sounded obsessed to me and that's not a good look for people their age. Not unless they're singing about their grandkids or themselves. Yeah, I'm overthinking it. She was an actress so she likely was not only in on the joke, she was probably told by Lorne to stay in character.

Cole called Michael Baldwin "Mike." First, I can't recall ever hearing anyone call Michael the common nickname. Second, does Cole even know him like that? Seemed overly familiar on Cole's part to me. I'm glad Tucker was lying to Kyle about his big plan to take down Jabot by stealing a perfume formula. It was too "been there, done that." Ehh, Billy, miss me with the endless poker metaphors. Not everything is about your gambling addiction. Yes, Victoria, you have changed a lot. Back when you were originally involved with Cole you looked amazingly like Katie Logan. 😏 Shut up, Billy. No one but Jack will be feeling any type of way about your leaving Jabot for another cushy nepo job you don't need or deserve. It's a girl! Congrats to the proud papa and stunned mama! Okay now, a whole new world has opened up for Claire as one of Victor Newman's heirs. Prepare to be disappointed, Kyle. A vacancy may have opened up in the leadership of Jabot but Jack's probably not about to welcome you into it. For a hot second, Claire's face when she got the official news on her parents: 🤑🤑🤑🤑 Whee! So much for Victor's crackhead security team. Surely all of them weren't over at the No-Tell Motel looking for Jordan instead of protecting the ranch. Somebody's getting fired. (Unless Nikki hallucinated seeing Jordan outside the living room window. But she didn't seem that drunk yet.)

Was that Mikey's IRL son in the cold open? They had the same chin. Interesting snark on Wikipedia in the opening monologue. Poppy Tinselbottom. Poofy Sillybottom. #northpolestrong Pongo the dog is an unexpected supervillan. And he's perfectly smooth! What's the deal with age 17 and ABBA? Is it an age of consent thing? If so, that's creepy. Sorry not sorry, Stevie Nicks. Tampon Farm. OMG, no. Still haven't seen the Barbie movie so I didn't know that's what Billie Eillish's first song was from until I realized her name was styled in the pink Barbie font. The movie got a lot of free PR in this episode, between the host, the musical guest, and the Barbie director. Just in time for holiday shopping! WU: Rich Auntie Veronda should've been carrying a Telfar bag but maybe SNL didn't want to do that particular product placement. There's a nationwide shortage on skanks. Colin trying to dap the renowned civil rights activist. I recoiled so hard. (According to reddit Colin didn't know she was an actress, which makes his fake sincerity even worse to me in retrospect.) Boogie Woogie Santa > CRISPR cure. Good to know. That tortilla blanket looked kind of dirty and used. The Wizard of Oz was mid. Again, I think Chloe has a great voice but she wasn't channeling Judy Garland any better than she did Mama Cass previously. Loved the cat sketch. Billie Eilish was perfect as a nerdy cat lady. Wait, that wasn't a cat. I'm meh on Kate McKinnon, but I thought Billie E. was fantastic. She can keep coming back. Is there Five Timers award for musical guests?

At tonight's Daytime Emmy's Y&R won the award for Outstanding Writing Team for a Daytime Drama Series. Now we'll never be rid of JG. 😐 Oh, and MS' PR people must've been working overtime to start rumors before the broadcast because she didn't win best lead actress. B&B got best lead actress and best lead actor, and GH got most of everything else. Because Billy is so self-important he wanted to "let" Chelsea talk him out of going on vacation right now. He thinks Jabot and C/W are vying for his expert C-suite services and he mustn't let both of them down. 🥸 Chelsea seemed to know the gifts were b.s. and she took it in good humor. At least there wasn't a ring box with a piece of candy in it or something equally awful.

Apparently so because Y&R won. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Jack pronounced "ruse" to rhyme with "truce." Ehhh. 😐 Oh come on, Tucker, how big of a fool do you think Jack is? Maybe instead of offering him a handshake you should've sent him a lovely holiday fruitcake. And a card reading "Bygones!" 🙄 Aw, Kyle. In the afterglow all Audra wanted to talk about was Tucker. You must not be so great between the sheets anymore, hah hah. How clueless is Chance? Summer was thisclose to grabbing him and licking his face, but he had to keep bringing up Sharon. I'm thinking Chance and Daniel should start a support group for Men Who aren't Blind But They Just Can't See. So I had to google the "Say Jump" band Chance and Summer were stanning. There actually is a J-pop boy band called Hey! Say! JUMP! Dang, Diane sure trashed Billy. Ashley and Jack were stunned speechless. Di had better cool it with that stuff because Jack doesn't consider the issue of Jabot's co- CEO up for debate. It'll be something if Tucker truly is planning to put Glaçade in competition with Jabot. I can envision Audra as the Face of Glaçade. Wowsers.* Listen to your brother, Summer. For all you know, Chance could have a change of heart and start looking at you for reals. Let him worry about Sharon. "Show me your cards, Kyle!" "No, Tucker, you show me yours first!" Yawn. That's Tucker's big plan? FFS, how many times has the "steal their secret formula" play been run against Jabot? They'll just have Kyle give Tucker a fake or faulty one. Whatever, Billy. Yay for you to have two C-suite nepo jobs to choose from. Meanwhile, Chelsea didn't really want to go scuba diving in the French Riviera anyway. Like James Taylor sang, 🎶they don't know nothing down in St. Tropez🎶 *Hear tell Rory Gibson's Noah may be returning to GC in a few weeks. He was sorta mopey but he was also cute IMO. I could see him and Audra as a killer spokescouple for Glaçade.

Hee, Oakdale. I see what you did there, NP. There's a weird disconnect between Chloe's eyes and her brain. She thinks it's Nick's face on these: Chloe also thinks the brand is owned by Nick's family. She stupid.

Taking bets now: Chance will step back in as the GCPD chief once Jordan's reign of terror against the Newmans comes to light. Sigh, I'm with Nick: peppermint mocha = yuck. OMG, Chloe, shut up! But first get your meddling behind over to the GCAC and check out who Sally's having lunch with. Then feel free to choke on your tears of impotent rage. 💩🤬☠️ Did Adam shave on the way over to the GCAC from the coffeehouse? The last time we saw him he had a dark, thin goatee but today his facial hair was barely visible. Continuity not FTW. Pshht, Claire could enter a mental health facility in OR instead of coming all the way to WI. Plot contrivance is contrived. Victor, Jordan is probably counting on your forcing Nikki to stay at the ranch. She'll make light work of your crack security team, and Nikki will be blackout drunk. You don't even know. Danny is hella messy. He knows Christine and Phyllis can't stand each other for decades yet he's pretty much dating them both. 🙄 What was that liquid Nikki was pouring back into the half-empty vodka bottle? It better have been cheaper vodka and not merely water. Had to laugh at the tiny funnel Nikki was using. JG was just jerking our chains yesterday when he had Nikki haplessly trying to refill her flask directly from the gigantic vodka bottle. Seems to me it'd be easier for the flask to have an unscrewable bottom. Dinner. Sure, Sally, with Adam for dessert, amirite? No shame on your game. Christine, do you really want to be getting strung along by an aging player, just to try to beat Phyllis at the competition for his attention? Think better of yourself, hon, because the life you save may be your own. Whoa, Jordan had Nikki's slightly askew gait down perfectly! Brava, CZ!

I don't get anything about it either beyond Lucy considering Heather her mom since she's grown up with her. The answer I've always gotten is that Lucy's bio-mother Daisy is still alive somewhere and apparently hasn't rescinded her parental rights. Plus, allegedly Daniel is still married to Daisy and that's why he hasn't been able to marry Heather. I think would be easy just to have Daisy die off-screen but TPTB don't seem to want to close that door permanently.

I've seen on a couple of Hollywood news sites that MS (Phyllis) is expected to win for lead actress. Not sure what that's based on unless it's already been leaked by whoever counts the ballots. Oh okay, the wide wale corduroy makes sense to me but not the fading. Either way, is that look back in style or did Cole pull it out of an old trunk in his attic? 🤡

Per Gold Derby (it's an industry insiders' awards prediction site), Y&R is nominated for Daytime Emmys in the following categories: Outstanding Drama Young & Restless Outstanding Drama Writing Team Young & Restless Outstanding Drama Directing Team Young & Restless Outstanding Lead Actor Peter Bergman (Jack) Jason Thompson (Billy) Outstanding Lead Actress Sharon Case (Sharon) Melissa Claire Egan (Chelsea) Michelle Stafford (Phyllis) Outstanding Guest Performer Robert Newman (Ashland Locke) Also nominated for: Outstanding Technical Direction, Camerawork, Video, Outstanding Live Sound Mixing and Sound, Outstanding Casting, and Art Direction/Set Decoration/Scenic Design. The ceremony will be broadcast live on CBS on Friday, December 15, at 9pm Eastern, 6pm Pacific. (Probably tape-delayed on the West coast to 7 or 8pm. Check local listings).

Heather is so thirsty Lake Michigan and Lake Superior must be getting nervous. I don't know how Daniel can't see what's going on with her. Audra making herself at home in Nikki's office. Okay. Seemed more than a tad presumptuous but lucky for Audra, Nikki had more liquid pressing things on her mind. Nate: family, family, family. Family, family. Family. Devon: you don't need to keep trying this hard, cuz. You're officially back on the payroll. TMW your boss tells you a former co-worker tried to kill her and her entire family over the weekend. How do you even process news like that? Heather was being ever so understanding and sympathetic when Daniel told her about Lily and Mattie's sad situation. It was laughable to me how fake Heather's behavior was yet Daniel still bought her act. Geez, Cole could've gotten in trouble in OR if he'd been caught entering the taped-off crime scene. And I think he should've been arrested by the fashion police for the shirt he had on today. What was that fabric, faded brushed denim? Audra's waist is snatched, as the cool kids say. 🤯 Lol, you're definitely left out of your family's drama, Abby. You still don't know they were recently lured across the country to be held hostage and poisoned. The least your daddy could do is warn you about Jordan since she's on the loose. Abby looking at Heather like, "Do you hear the words coming out of your mouth?" Between Abby, Devon, and Daniel, she seemed to be the only one who wasn't fooled by Heather. What's the holdup? Victoria and Cole, get the DNA test on Claire ASAP. Gah.

Nope, my dirty mind caught it too and I imagined what he might've been trying to hide under the pillow. I think maybe TSJ improvised the moment and it caught ZS off-guard. Heh, yesterday I was thinking what excellent contraceptives Audra must be using because any other woman in GC would've had several WTD? scares by now. I wonder if the story she told Noah about her miscarriage back in London was true, but it was actually Tucker's kid? Yes but at that point it has interacted with the person's bodily fluids and other chemistry associated with, say, food or clothing. Meanwhile, I just took a whiff of some Grey Goose I happen to have handy for science purposes (😉) and it had no odor. That's versus some isopropyl alcohol which definitely had a smell. I haven't watched today's episode yet but I was channel-surfing and caught a moment between Victoria and Devon. It looked like he's got something extra going on with his facial hair too. That makes three male characters whose grooming is noticeably different lately. Two could've been a coincidence but IMO three equals a pattern. Does Y&R have a product placement deal with an LA barber, or one of those deluxe shaving kits?

"Sanctum sanctorum." Heh, a phrase which ironically sounded dirty coming from Tucker's mouth. How do Ashley and Jack know how much money Tucker has to lose? I'm confident he has bucks stashed away under different names and shell companies, in countries where it's easy to hide funds. AYFKMWTS? Does Jill think Tucker caused the wildfires in Northern CA just to weaken C/W by moving Lily out of the frame? Oh please. And Mamie, C/W continues not to be "your" company. Please effing stop. "...lost in the ethers." Cute, Mamie. You go ahead and let your dolt flag fly. Meanwhile, Jill, perhaps you shouldn't be having corporate strategy meetings in a public place where uninvited people can easily show up and refuse to leave. Looks like Tucker and his never-ending, twisty schemes might be straining Audra's patience. Hmm. I think Chelsea surprisingly had a good read on Billy's hyper behavior wrt the Abbott plan to take down Tucker. Maybe this time he'll actually heed Chelsea's caution versus only giving it lip service. I liked her high pony 'do too. Not a fan of those poinsettia Christmas trees at the GCAC. Must take a lot of work to keep all those individual plants from drying out--assuming they weren't fake. Interesting how cagey various Abbotts are being with each other despite having united to protect Jabot from Tucker. I can't wait until Jack's eyes get opened about Diane's duplicity.

I think she did but then later on we found out she felt a little guilty so she also finagled to have sex with Kevin around the same time. When the DNA test was done Bella turned out to be Kevin's kid. I remember it being a particularly dumb retcon because the sex with Kevin was nearly a couple of weeks later so odds are Billy's stolen swimmers missed the mark and Chloe wasn't pregnant anyway. Also, I found the idea of Chloe having child by Billy without his consent so they could "replace" Delia was kinda sick given how Delia Johnny was conceived. Imagine a child growing up knowing they had to live up to their dead older sibling's lost promise. Awful. Now about this new facial hair thing with Cole and Adam, I'd actually like it if they swapped styles. Since Cole is apparently trying to look edgy I think the thin-lined goatee would work better on him. Adam with some neat scruff could give him a bit of gravitas, as long as there's no gray in it like whatever that mess is on Nick's face.

Whoa, either Cole is so tall or Michael is so not. Ditto comments upthread re Cole's facial hair. Apparently he found a moment to see a barber and get his scruff tightened up. It's a interesting look for him, I think, if he's going for a cokehead writer vibe. Wait, what? Isn't there an APB out for Jordan? How was she able to go to the jail as a visitor? Pretty bad security. (ETA: a freaking dream sequence. 😡 Well at least it wasn't in the dreaded sepia tone.) I guess Michael is back to freelancing and is no longer Victor's consigliere. Good for him. Come on, have someone visit Claire in jail and give her plate of food. Her DNA would then be on the eating utensils. Cole flying out to OR again just to scavenge Jordan's house for a hairbrush wastes time and jet fuel. The poem Jordan texted Nikki is by Edgar Allen Poe, and a certain soap opera head writer is becoming predictable. Nikki deep-throating a vodka bottle. Oy. Good thing Victor didn't see her or he might've felt jealous. O hail naw, Adam. No. You look like a financial district pimp with that goatee. Sally probably shouldn't stand next to him lest someone mistake her for one of his working girls. Is Michael licensed to practice law in OR or has Claire been extradited to WI? Poor Victor (🙄) is utterly deluded about Nikki's strength and she's scared of disappointing him with the truth. Sigh. At least Nikki confided in Victoria, partially.

Yeah, that was questionable. Maybe Victor's driver took her. Or perhaps Nikki'll just keep doing it and have an accident, which will lead to her drunken reveal that she's the one who actually ran over Delia. That would have huge repercussions in both the Newman and Abbott families. Do it, JG!

Of course there will be a race to snag the trillion-dollar asteroid, which the Russians will want to sabotage. Cold War gets colder. I have a feeling Ilya is not long for Mars. Miles is a man of a certain honor and doesn't appreciate being made to look dishonest to the Koreans. Dev is going to Mars is hilarious. That's like Bezos going to the moon. Ed went rogue again. What could possibly go wrong? Besides getting his crew killed because his attempt to hide his health issues, that is. Yep, Alex's grandma was just waiting to abscond with him back to Russia. Good thing Kelly picked up on it. Apparently Babushka forgot Kelly is a billionaire and can take her son to another planet. That must be something, to have family tell you they're moving to Mars and not coming back. At least Dev was honest; Ed has never admitted he wasn't going back to Earth, has he? So Danny offed himself. Wonder if he somehow knew about the Happy Valley food scarcity problem or if he simply decided he couldn't live like that anymore? Did Ilya poison Miles with that homemade vodka? He had a sneaky look on his face when he poured those shots. Ya burnt, Ed! Pack up your shit and GTFO. Dani has had enough! But neither of them know Kelly is on her way back up there with Ed's grandson. Maybe that'll be Ed's excuse to stay on Mars. Ditto comments upthread, wonder how long it'll take for Aleida to see Margo or at least find out Margo is alive and living in Russia? I'm fascinated by the theories afoot that the Happy Valley residents ate Danny in order to fend off starvation, and Ed's tremors are caused by brain disease from eating another human. Seems odd though that he'd be the only person affected unless his problem is actually psychosomatic. My favorite comment from reddit:

It's funny how much the Roscosmos building inside looked like the one Margo worked in back in the US. Bureaucrats gonna bureaucrat. The Cold War redevelops on Mars. Yikes. Not a great imitation of Al Gore's voice. Wonder if it was AI-generated? When he was out on the surface Miles almost looked like the robot from Lost in Space, the OG version, lol. Guess Peloton not a thing in this timeline. I would've expected the head of NASA to have a much better exercise bike. Ed has become quite the cranky old astronaut. He may not survive his undying support of Svetlana though. WTH happened to Danny and why is it verboten to speak of? Looks like that Roscosmos guy Margo ratted out met a worse fate than only having to find a new job. Not sure why she was acting weird about it. She should know the score by now.

SNL sure went in on Stefanik. There was a news story this week about another trans man who is pregnant. That may have inspired the "trying for a baby" sketch. Long lost childhood friend Keith, omg. It just kept getting worse and worse. Saying beep beep does not automatically grant right-of-way at the holiday buffet table. Not unless you're bringing yams and packing heat. Good to know. I screamed when they unwrapped the dildo chocolate bar. Wow. Odell couldn't hardly deal either. Olivia Rodrigo was the first musical guest this season I've recognized. Interesting acoustic version of Vampire. WU: Oof, RFK Jr. Epstein keeps ruining people from beyond the grave. Marcello was adorable. But Colin, "The salon do be sounding kinda fire."? No. No blaccent for you. Chloe was right about Save the Last Dance but I was thinking that bit was quite a far reach back for a premise to crap on. Does Julia Stiles have new movie coming out? Baby Plane seems like a good idea until you consider what would happen if the plane crashed. On top of all the innocent souls lost, no airline would survive that kind of horrific PR. Or the lawsuits. Olivia Rodrigo hit a few iffy notes in her second song. She made it work though. And I didn't realize how tiny she is. I can't stand those tiny-assed bags, for real. What's the point? They're just something else for you to lose, along with your one mitochondrion and a small bit of cocaine. Dassit. Adam continued to be game, and rose above weak material. He'll have earned his Five Timers jacket the next time he hosts. Her character also had a ridiculously expensive couture wardrobe. It sort of made sense within the context of the series but the character's clothes were practically their own storyline. I often wondered whether the whole thing was an excuse for product placement.

IMO Jill joining forces with the Abbotts is fantastic. She and they have a long history, mostly against each other. I floved the angelic face Tucker was trying to maintain in front of Mamie and Ashley. This guy. 🤠 Heh, Daniel all but declared Lily a saint for putting her kids first--even the ones who aren't born yet. Oh wait On another soap forum posters have speculated about the reason a wildfire was used as Lily's excuse to leave town. They believe it's because CBS was doing lowkey promotion of their primetime series, Fire Country. That show takes place in Northern California. Wasn't this the second or third time today (in GC time) Christine and Phyllis had an unexpected encounter? Meanwhile, it looked like Phyllis got her hair dyed a slightly darker shade. Not bad. And wasn't this also the second or third time today Ashley and Tucker had engaged? Whatever, shortly before Thanksgiving she pretty much gave Glaçade to Tucker as a lovely parting gift. I don't see why he now has to offer her money for it. Phyllis sitting in the Jazz Lounge with her coat on. Oy. The GCAC must not be paying their heat bill, lol. I see you, Tucker, reeling Ashley in with this Glaçade thing. You didn't want to buy her out; you wanted to keep her connected to you. Achievement unlocked! So glad CLB is back. Michael was as insightful and charming as ever. Aw geez, what is Jill's amazing plan to distract Tucker? Good luck, hon. Tucker may not see you coming but he'll have a tripwire ready for when you arrive. Shut up, Phyllis. No one in GC feels sorry for you so why don't you go eat some worms? Daniel didn't offer to hang up Christine's coat after she entered his home. Rude. But then Danny didn't either so lack of common courtesy runs in the Romalotti genes apparently. 🙄 Re the previews: bring it, Aunt Jordan, you psycho!