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DRAAAMMAA. That's why they went in that direction. If you had Will actually marry a woman of faith, there would be less conflict and a lot less angst. Also, my guess is that a circa 1960 religious woman wouldn't have immediately tried to jump into bed with him (yes, even if she were a widow) because back then, such stuff was considered A Sin, but we know that Grantchester is really 2023 in 1950s clothing. Even Will's behavior as a Vicar would be looked at with many a raised eyebrow back then.

Gotta agree with pretty much what is being said here. Save the drama for the actual crimes and let the main characters have peaceful lives. I have gotten to kind of like Bonnie, even though the show made her too "fast" and didn't take enough time to show her and Will in a relationship that would lead to marriage. And as of an aside - if that actress is "plain", I'm lucky that I don't scare dogs and little children when I walk the streets! Guess that beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. Anyway, Will is acting childish and now is going to pay for it. At this point, he really doesn't come across as good husband material. It seems like Bonnie is going to have three children to contend with. And I'm SO done with the crap of the obnoxious boss trying to force Geordie into retirement. Please show, give us some happy characters and some interesting crimes to solve - yes, more like Midsommer Murders ( I like that idea).

Check out Driad's link posted a few comments up. It was very helpful reading.

In some ways this was a WTF of a case. If I had been on that jury, I don't think that I could convict Chris based on what we have been told. He sure is one helluva an odd man; and could he have wanted Andy dead? Well, he might have had motive (guess it depends on what Andy's reaction on finding out about his porn addiction was) but there was really nothing tangible linking him to the crime other than the word of a rapist/murderer who wanted to cut a deal and not get the death penalty. If Chris was behind the murder, the guy has got to go down as a criminal mastermind. His demeanor and answers were hinky enough to lean you into thinking that he was behind it but it also beggars belief that Bobby Joe would murder this woman for a "promised" 5 grand and didn't even ask for a deposit first. My guess? That Bobby Joe came to the house to rob it and Andy was there so he killed her, and that Chris wasn't especially upset that Andy was dead. He seems to be a guy who probably keeps all of his cards close to the vest and may have a deceitful personality. Maybe as far as he was concerned, he was better off without her and really didn't care about the murder as it made his life easier. "shrugs". Just weird all the way around.

I like James Fox too. He had a very interesting film career in the 1960s and apparently filming "Performance" led him to have a nervous breakdown. He left acting for close to a decade, becoming an Evangelical Christian and eventually got back into acting. There is also another Fox; Edward, who is James' brother and who starred in "Day of the Jackal" and has also been in many more movies. Laurence Fox and his beliefs are a mystery to me. He seems to be a modern version of Oswald Mosley, which is shocking and sad. And yeah, has spoiled watching "Lewis" as well.

Hard to believe there is only one episode left to go. I really so hope that Thursday and Bright make it out alive. It was interesting to me that Bright was looking at a travel brochure for India (a place where he lived when young and in his prime). Maybe he is looking for a new adventure and that in 1972, India hadn't changed as much as the Western World had. As for the young rich punks - I got a real "Clock Work Orange" vibe from them (and the movie had come out around that time). I was surprised that one of them was called Lord Ormsby Gore as that is the real last name of a prominent (and tragic) British family. The current Lord Harlech is an Ormsby Gore and Eric Clapton had been in a fairly long relationship with Alice Ormsby Gore who died of a drug overdose (I think she would have been the aunt of the current Lord Harlech).

Were Morse and Joan ever really "a thing"? I never saw it - what I remember was him being in love with her and she never seemed to feel it. She was aware of his feelings, I think, but she didn't feel the same way. I'd never say they were ever boyfriend/girlfriend and I don't recall ever broadcasting how he felt about her. My take is that Strange really has no idea about Morse's feelings for Joan and Joan probably never brought it up to him. Frankly, (and this might be a minority opinion), I think that Joan would be a lot happier with Jim Strange (who actually seems to be a decent man) than she would be with Morse. If every bit of unhappiness and disappointment is going to make him hit the bottle, then I think that Joan dodged a bullet. And the look on Thursday's face at the end when he saw Morse in the bar said it all.

This show looks like its made on even less of a shoestring than Skinwalker Ranch. It also has kind of a different feel to it than the Prometheus produced shows (and a different narrator). It seems as if the Skinwalker people are going to exploit the hell out of it and two episodes in, I'm not impressed by this one. Neither of the "investigators" seems to be impressive and I can't see how their hit and run (come to a place and blow a few things up) approach is going to find out much of interest.

Not many of us here, huh? I find this show more interesting than "Oak Island" but I fear that it's going to be more of the same old lets dig up everything in sight and find not much of anything type of thing. They also seem to be very intent on monetizing this as much as they can (see your favorites on tour/subscribe to the on line service, etc).

My guess its because the people who are sued start moving their assets to other people as well as "hide" their assets in other ways. I don't know if declaring bankruptcy would also protect the person who was sued. I'd also guess that there are plenty of lawsuits involving corporations where the winner winds up waiting years to get paid. In many cases (both against individuals and corporations) there are probably appeals which will also slow down anybody getting judgements they've been awarded.

What a story - I was so happy to see that the victim survived. Thank God she was gotten to a hospital that apparently had a stellar trauma team and that she also was a fighter with a strong will to survive. That the very privileged family of the perp tried to cover his trail (haircut, spiriting him to another location) IS disgusting. I'd really love to know what that family situation really was and if the the kid had in fact, not been in any trouble before or if the family had just managed to cover it up. Sounds very strange that an otherwise nice, "normal" teen would use mushrooms and become a murderer. Def more in the background of this story. And the polar icecaps will melt before Donna will ever see a cent of that 5 million lawsuit money.

I saw on the news last night that Kohlberger didn't enter a plea at his hearing and the judge had to enter a "not guilty" plea. Does anybody know why it would be in his interest (assuming it was) to not enter a plea himself? Honestly, the more stuff that keeps coming out, I don't have any doubt that the cops got the right person. And my guess is that he was after one of those blond girls and the other three wound up as collateral damage. And my other guess would be that if he had gotten away with this murder it wasn't going to be a "one and done". This guy was an angry person who probably had a lot of bones to pick on the world in general and he would eventually get triggered by something to want to kill again. I'm glad he was caught.

I could quote Stonehaven above on just about everything they said. Does CBS feel that the only shows people want to watch on Sunday night contain plenty of blood and gore and machine guns blazing? Seems they take off everything that doesn't contain that (East Night York, previous season's God Friended Me, and I could go even further back). Last night's episode was disgusting - yeah "torture porn" says it all. When you find the Dee/Aunt Vi storyline more compelling and more of what some of us thought this show was supposed to be about, rather than the main plot, that says it all. If the show continues with this awful CIA/Ultra Violent crap after the comeback episode next season, I'm out.

I'm not a big fan of these CIA plot episodes because a) I thought that Robyn was out of the CIA, b) this guy Fisk is a real Asshole (and I usually like the actor playing him) and c) I much prefer Robyn sticking to NY and helping people who have no where else to turn (which is what I thought the show was supposed to be about). Dee's smugness and privilege really annoyed the hell out of me. Yeah great for you that you could turn your nose up at a good internship because you don't want to change your hair but to be so judgemental with the Black young woman working at the store who can't be so picky because she needs the job - I just wanted to slap Dee. And not for nothing, would a white girl with pink or rainbow dyed hair get the job if the boutique wanted a more conservative look? I bet they wouldn't. And there are probably pleny of people who would love to wear t shirts and shorts to work but the position requires suits, ties, (and for women, high heels) and if you want the job, you deal with it. I was very disappointed that Robyn gave her props for sticking to her principals rather than calling her out on being a privileged brat who doesn't have a clue what life is like for an awful lot of other people.

Re: "Along Came Sarah" - What a crazy-ass story, huh? This woman makes Pam Hupp look like an amateur. Goes to show that psychos will keep doing what they do until somebody finally stops them. God only knows what this woman's final body count really is.

It must be Spousal Abuse Month or something on TV as it seemed that so many of the shows I watched had it in some form or another. This episode was harrowing. The victim is a very attractive-looking woman with an animated personality but maybe part of the reason she emoted so much was the years spent under that bastard husband who probably tried to extinguish every spark of life and personality that she had. After seeing the Dateline episode about Nicholas what-ever-his-name-is, and seeing his ex-wife #2 who appeared like a deer in the headlights, this woman was almost refreshing. She lived to tell and man, was she gonna tell it! I shook my head over how much the oldest daughter was under Daddy's sway - to the point of betraying her mother. At her age, she was old enough to have a sense of what was really going on between her parents and its sad to see how much she was brainwashed. And it really speaks to what a vile, piece of dog poop that her father was to put his kids in the middle, and manipulate them like that. God help that woman if that scumbag ever gets out of prison (Good for Florida in that the judge could sentence him for so long. Here in New York, he'd probably be out in 5 years). You just know that he's the type of guy who will still come after her (or the kids) if he ever gets out. I'm hoping that the court appointed lawyer he had was inwardly sighing with relief that the jerk fired him and in effect, put the rope around his own neck. I'm truly surprised that the jury actually took five hours to convict him.

Re "Dead Man Talking" - I wanted to throw a shoe at the TV for most of the episode. For one, I kept screaming "DNA Test" at the stupidity of him being in Scotland and claiming to not be the wanted guy (and considering how much he looked like Nicholas Alahverdian, it was pretty obvious that he was) and getting to drag the whole process out, and for another, that 2nd wife of his (see patty1h's post above) who he abused terribly and yet just couldn't seem to leave. I just don't get it. And yeah, this guy could have been the inspiration for George Santos. Who hasn't been accused of any sex crimes, but that is about the only good thing I can say about him.

Anybody watch the episode about the two young women who were dumped at two different hospitals unconscious (both died)? They were friends who had gone out dancing, accepted drugs from a guy who told everybody that he was a film studio producer, and they wound up in a bad situation. A sad story that shouldn't have happened. And the main perp had gotten away with numerous sex based offenses for years. And who knows - his trial hasn't happened yet - he might get away with murder this time.

I enjoyed this episode - seemed to have a better flow than some of the recent ones - and I enjoyed the side "case" with Aunt Vi. But did the guy who owned the gym who was shot by the drug dealer die? That hadn't been apparent to me in the previous episode, and wouldn't you think that since Dee was going to that gym and saw "something" she would be able to tell what she saw to Dante? What did I miss here?

This was kind of a weird case. Made me think that there was a bunch of stuff that Dateline didn't tell us. My guess (same as some of you) is that this family had all sorts of dirty laundry and didn't want it aired on Dateline. Like why did the deceased father seem to only leave money to Courtney and not the other sisters? My guess is that the older sisters had a different father (and I think it was mentioned that Courtney was something like 7 years younger than Lace) and that also makes you wonder what the family dynamic was. And that Courtney would actually have an affair with her sister's fiance - what the hell was that about? Must have been some serious sibling rivalry there. And about all that money - so neither of the older sisters would get it if something happened to Courtney, but the mother would then get it and maybe she would then be subjected to pressure from her surviving daughters to share the largesse. So, if you ask me, that money could still be a motive for Lace (or her then fiance a/k/a the guy convicted of the murder). I felt bad for the mother - she seemed like a religious person and all, but something went haywire with at least two of her daughters.

And where people the people involved with these types (male or female) are really nuts is breaking up with them and allowing them to stay under the same roof after telling them they're being dumped. I guess that most people think that the insanely jealous soon to- be- ex loves them so much that they wouldn't even dream of crime of passion murder. Its really a shame that in this case the cops screwed things up so badly that murderer gets to live her life with nothing over her head other than a law suit the family will never be able to collect on and a bad reputation.

My guess is that she has ulterior motives regarding him and wants to keep an affair with him on the QT.

I'm getting so sick of the Daddy issues on this show. So Jimmy is freaking out that his (what 11 or 12 year old?) daughter is going on a GROUP "date" with other kids. Instead of maybe reaching out to some of the other parents, he acts like his kid is going to be shanghaied into white slavery or something. Not quite as over the top as the idiotic way NCIS LA Kenzi/Deeks are portrayed with their 16 year old adopted daughter, but almost. The case of the week was okay but got to say that I called the villain from when we met her. Also laughed at the 99 cent eggs. This episode did make me think of a story I heard years ago when dining in an Afghan restaurant with a friend of mine. My friend was very good at getting people to tell their life stories and she engaged the female co-owner of the restaurant to talk to us about how she wound up on Long Island running the restaurant. She told us a harrowing story of being a young wife/mother in Afghanistan when the Taliban were coming to power. Her husband, who was I believe an Engineer, was out of town on business, and she and her young children were living with her in-laws who were wealthy, educated, cultured, and highly regarded in the town where they lived. One night, the Taliban came to the door and hauled away her father-in-law, who was never seen again. Her husband came back to the town to get her and the kids (and the Taliban was looking for him) and they came to the US. They went from being well-to-do people to living in a one bedroom apartment in Queens and her husband drove a cab. They wound up opening the restaurant that did okay for at least 15 years; it eventually closed after the husband died (he was the main chef). It was a harrowing story and unfortunately, it sounds as if it's still happening 40 years later.

Or the casting director does.

So I guess that the developer is going to be the "Big Bad" in this show. He might be innocent of THIS murder, but you know that his hands ain't clean. Unfortunately, money talks, especially in NYC were political corruption probably isn't all that much different than in the days of Tammany Hall. And unfortunately, Suarez is just going to get in deeper with the political consultant, and next, she'll want to run him for Mayor. Just ick, ick, ick to Quinlan's mother. I don't want any of her backstory drama and it makes my eyes roll that we've been told this woman is supposed to be a drinking/drugging mess (and Quinlan seems very blue collar) and who do they get to play dear old "mom" - a very glamourous looking Debi Mazar. Not that Debi Mazar couldn't be the mother but you'd think that somebody would have made her look like a woman who has been through the mill and not like somebody who seems to have just walked out of Saks Fifth Avenue. Killian will probably go moonlight for the rich guy and get mixed up in something very un- kosher. At least Regina looks like she's going to have some fun and games before the next shoe drops.