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Well that's disappointing. Seems like a lot of the shows that I watch on regular broadcast TV are getting cancelled despite decent ratings. I know the networks complain that viewership overall is down, but when they keep cancelling shows that do decently in the ratings, it makes it hard to invest in new shows. It's like they are pushing us to streaming platforms or to just not watch at all.

Lots of problems with this episode. First of all, I don't understand why if the verdict hadn't been officially recorded, why they did not just replace the rogue juror with one of the alternates. The rogue juror was not deliberating in good faith or in following the law so she should have been replaced with an alternate. Second of all, I don't even know what there was to defend. How can it be legal to take a minor away from her parents without their consent, even if you and her claim it was consensual? She is not old enough to consent to something like that. This wasn't a case of custodial interference or even 2 teenagers running away together. This was a disgusting older man who took a child away from her parents. Even if there were aspects of their time together that she may have enjoyed, there is no legal justification for what he did. There was no reason for the jury to reach any other verdict other than guilty unless they were going for jury nullification. And I just don't understand what was the point of the mother exchanging gross pictures with the perp. What was she hoping to accomplish?

So 2 people with children together should never travel together on a plane?

I thought the episode was pretty good. I like seeing Nina and Scola together but the argument/debate over mitigating risk seemed stupid considering they both have super dangerous jobs and are always getting shot at. If Scola was that worried about risk and ensuring that little Dougie didn't end up an orphan, then one of them should be taking a desk job. I may have missed it, but I thought there were 3 people involved in the torture and kidnapping of the retired FBI guy. They got the 2 brothers, but did they ever say who the third person was? I don't think it was that older white guy, or was it? Also, it seemed strange to me that Nina kept saying they had to book flights to Napa. For most people, if you are going to Napa, you would fly into the Bay Area or Sacramento, maybe Santa Rosa, but not many commercial flights into Napa itself unless you're rich and flying a private plane to their small airport. I live here so something like that stands out to me. But speaking of being rich, didn't Scola at one time say that he had made a lot of money in a previous job? I like seeing them as a family in a more realistic small apartment, but I thought he would have more money for something more spacious. Maybe even in a house in the suburbs.

It never occurred to me that the body in the truck would be Sam. Any idea why it would be? I missed how the cases might be connected. I just thought it was hilarious that Stabler would be able to go undercover again and nobody would recognize him. Although I suppose after a couple of years, people forget. It also looked like the woman who first took Stabler in and got him a beer while he waited for Boone, she is looking like she's also an undercover, at least from the previews. Did anybody else get that? A couple of funny moments in this episode - Jett and Reyes as a couple who have a foodie blog and Mrs. Stabler upset that Elliot and Randall "ruined" little Joey when they started hanging out with him. It was sad to see Joe Jr's addict behavior, but I'm glad all he did was grab the baseball and he didn't actually physically harm his mother.

Re: Kaitlin Armstrong/Mo Wilson episode on Friday. The new information that I thought was more interesting is the fact that Kaitlin tried to escape custody but was caught after running for about 10 minutes. The footage was pretty funny and I wish they had shown more of it. I also thought it was interesting that the jury took less than 2 hours to convict. Bet that humbled the arrogant defense attorney who was interviewed on the first version claiming that all of the evidence was wrong and that his client would be exonerated. My husband and I were very interested in this case due to the Costa Rica angle. We first heard about this case as we were planning a trip to Costa Rica so we did get kind of a kick about her trying to escape there and then getting caught due to the yoga mat she was spotted carrying around in the airport. Looking back, I'm sure she wishes she had just bought another yoga mat once she was in Costa Rica instead of bringing her old one. LOL We also thought it was very strange that Kaitlin seemed to go from a normal person (albeit with some red flag jealousy issues) to a murderer pretty quickly. Usually there's a sign of a person potentially escalating their jealousy towards murder. I'm surprised that neither Dateline or 20/20 ever dug up a former boyfriend or a former acquaintance who could say that she definitely had an insane jealous streak. Anyway, it does seem like such a loss that Mo Wilson was murdered as she did seem like a great person. Kaitlin definitely should have aimed her ire towards Colin the boyfriend instead.

She's been on the Food Network. She won the first season of the Beach Brawl show that is hosted by Antonia Lofaso and it always cracks me up that they have to film it in the winter in California but act like it's summer. I think she was also on Chopped but I don't know if she won or not. When they were raising hands about who was a James Beard winner/nominee and who worked in Michelin restaurants and then Kristen asked who didn't raise their hands, I was hoping Kaleena would say that she was a Food Network winner. With so many former Top Chef contestants now on Food Network, I'm not sure why they wouldn't mention it on this show. The winning pasta dish looked delicious and the pozole sounded amazing. I wonder if Kenny would have been on the bottom if he had managed to plate both white and dark meat. It sounded like he had a good dish but because he didn't have dark meat on all of the plates he was automatically deemed the loser when everyone else managed to get it on theirs.

I've seen that case on Friday on another show but can't remember which one. Pretty brazen of the mother-in-law to just shoot her in the parking lot in full view of so many people, including the baby. In a place like Georgia where so many people have guns, nobody tried to stop her as she walked away?

I noticed the flags too. I figured that was the twist but it was edited out because of time or didn't figure enough into the judging. I knew Zoe was going to be out because she hasn't done very well and seems to always be on the bottom without being the worst until this one.

Something happened with my DVR and so I missed the previous episode and I had no idea who Gemma was and what she and OA were talking about. Did that happen to anyone else? As for this episode, I kept thinking that we were going to find out Hassan was a double agent, not that he was just incompetent.

I like Whistler and how she looks like a tall and beautiful put-together model but inside she's a little awkward and a geek. But what's the deal with Lucy being absent from this episode and nothing being said? Is there something going on with the actress who plays her? Are we going to get a Jesse midlife crisis running storyline? I really hope not. I kind of like how he's a good-looking, not too old guy, who is just a good father and husband and family man. I don't want them veering into a storyline where he questions whether he started a family too young or contemplates cheating on his unseen offscreen wife.

Did we ever get a reason why Allie has a British accent? She reminds me of Neela on ER. There is no reason for her character to be British other than if the actress can't do a good American accent. I don't like Allie's plan of "permanent partners" necessarily but if Max already wants to override it or doesn't approve, why would she promote Allie if she didn't trust her judgment? I'm still not sure why Allie thinks this is a good idea. Wouldn't it be better for them to learn from each other by switching up the partners every so often? Isn't that what Grissom used to do? And sometimes on a busy night, they would get to work solo. Also, I'm not sure why Allie felt it was her place to judge Serena's job and force her to tell Josh, other than a ploy to force Josh and Allie together and create conflict. I'm with Max in that I don't think there was anything wrong with what Serena was doing, as there has always been a detective working with the CSIs. The only thing I question is if it was smart of Serena and Josh to be romantically involved when they work so closely together.

Remy was an arrogant psychopath. Of course he didn't ask for a lawyer when talking to police because he was confident he could talk his way out of it. And of course he said prison was awesome, no way he was going to admit he f-ed up. As soon as he said he and his wife had threesomes with his "girlfriend", I knew that of course he was guilty. Who says that??? And even if it were true, what possible difference would it make? It was just his way of getting revenge on his wife and girlfriend for abandoning him by making them look bad. Remy's defense attorney from the first trial was a real piece of work and grifter. This however was definitely a case of a guilty person getting an unfair trial. Not surprised that Remy testified on his own behalf. They can say he wasn't prepped and that the defense attorney should have had other witnesses, but there is no way Remy wasn't going to testify. Remy is convinced he is so charming and can talk his way out of everything. And yeah, I was distracted by Andrea's eyebrows too. Not sure what was going on there.

Loved everyone's comments here. It was a fun ride while it lasted. As long as you didn't take it too seriously, it was entertaining for what it was and I agree, I have a soft spot for it as it came on during the pandemic when we were all still sitting around doing nothing but watching a lot of tv. It's too bad they weren't given enough episodes to tie up all their loose ends. I'm not going to think about the inconsistencies and plot holes anymore now that the show has ended but it has ignited an interest in me and my husband to visit the La Brea tar pits museum the next time we are in Los Angeles. 😆

This show feels like they just make $hit up as they go along LOL. Has anyone tried binge watching this show from beginning to end? There was always so much time in between seasons that I never actually remembered what had previously happened so I was able to hand wave a lot of the ridiculousness. But I wonder if you watch all the episodes back to back in a shorter timeframe if the show would actually make some sense. I doubt it, but it would be interesting to see. Anyway, kind of curious to see how they wrap it up. Will we finally see Eve, Riley and Josh? Will they get back to 2021? LOL

Catching up on the last two weeks. "Ghosts Can't Talk" The son Nick is a disgusting psycho creep. He was clearly the golden child for his whole life, coddled by his parents, and then found a psycho girlfriend/wife. I can't believe he actually thought he was smart enough to make money as a day trader. He seemed like he was not too bright. I'm glad Corey finally recognized her son for what he was and is not talking to him any longer. My sister-in-law and her husband have an only son who has dropped out of college now for several years and lives at home in his bedroom and barely ever comes out of his room when we do visit at Christmas. I can't help but think he expects to inherit everything from his parents as an only child, and possibly as the only grandchild on his maternal side and so he has absolutely no motivation to do anything. He doesn't have a job, doesn't go to school, we have no idea what he does all day. I don't think he has murderous tendencies towards his parents but Dateline really makes you think the worst of people and anyway he would be the most obvious suspect. As to the episode about the Markels. So glad that Donna got arrested and in the most public and humiliating way. Charlie (and his lawyer) are morons if they thought anyone would believe their story that they were being extorted. If it was true, all he had to do was call the police and tell them "Hey I know who killed Dan!" and the whole thing would have been over. Glad that the jury saw right through it. And as for Wendi, there is no way she didn't know, and even if she didn't know before it actually happened, she had to know that her dear brother was involved once it was proven that the 3 who did do it had ties to her brother. That family is disgusting all around. Curious about the one brother who did manage to get away though.

Yes, I had forgotten about Susan's first exit! I agree, I think tv shows do this so there can be some big dramatic moment at the workplace or immediately after, like Susan and Mark at the train station or Neela/Brenner at the airport, although theirs was so dull I don't think it was quite the dramatic moment the show thought it should be.

To be fair, I think Carol impulsively quit the day she did and then hopped on a plane. My issue is people knowing that they are leaving or moving and then working one last shift on their way to the airport. If I were moving, I'd put in my notice at work, then plan to move a few days after my last day. I wouldn't work my last shift and then just go straight to the airport like they made it seem Neela did. They do this on other shows too and it's stupid. Nobody does this in real life unless they have no other choice, and I don't believe for a second that Neela had to work right up to the minute of her departure. She could have worked her last shift, then gone home and spent the next week packing up her apartment and making arrangements for the move. Instead, she goes from the hospital directly to the airport so that Simon can run after her and declare how much he loves her. 🙄

I'm getting to the end of my Season 15 watch and just watched the episodes where Carter comes back and gets his kidney transplant and Doug and Carol were the organ facilitators. I find it funny that Doug asked about a few of the doctors who were there when he was, and he never asked about Carter who was getting the kidney. I enjoyed seeing Benton visit Carter and finding out that his life has moved on. That was the thing I always appreciated about ER, they never acted like once characters left the show that their lives got worse or that they remained stagnant. ER always showed that life continued to move on for the characters, even after they left County. As for Neela's exit, how boring and dull. Her relationship with Brenner was never compelling, and we are expected to believe she just suddenly decided to turn down Duke University to go to Baton Rouge to be with Ray? That's another relationship i never understood - when were they supposed to have fallen in love? What was so special about Neela anyway? She said Brenner never talked to her about anything meaningful, but did she tell him anything? She hasn't mentioned Gallant in years. And then I don't believe for one second that Frank would throw her an embarrassing good bye party when he never even liked her. Another thing I hate, only on tv do people work a shift right before they literally get on a plane to move! Who does that????

I was confused initially too, but then they said or did something that made me realize they were actually siblings instead, and then of course, her sleeping with Gates made it clear. Interesting that the actor who played Andrew was made to use an American accent. I always wondered why they made Neela a Brit, like Parminder Nagra. It would have made more sense for her to be an American as there are a lot of American doctors of Indian descent. And then of course, what was the point of Dr Simon Brenner being Aussie, other than the actor who played him was Aussie. I recently saw him in another show, Truth Be Told, where he was supposed to play an American detective, and you could hear his Australian accent come through a lot, and he just didn't have a convincing American accent. I'm guessing his American accent was worse back in the ER days and they really wanted the actor for some reason. So maybe Parminder Nagra couldn't do a convincing American accent? Has anyone seen her in anything where she plays an American?

I'm watching season 15 right now and most of these episodes I only ever watched the last couple of years as reruns on POP when I was working from home. While some of it is not bad, overall I don't like it. I like Angela Bassett but her character is awful. So much negativity. And when we first meet her husband, it seems like they barely have a marriage and suddenly she is trying to conceive a baby and then when that doesn't work, go right into IVF? I like the maturation of Archie as a person and a doctor but that's about it. Neela and Brenner make no sense, we are never shown why he is so infatuated with her. He clearly has no problem getting women to hook up with him and he was shown to be an absolute dick to the intern he did sleep with, so what was so special about Neela? And Dubenko continues to also be enthralled with her for no reason. I just watched the episode where Neela brought in another surgeon to do some cutting edge technique and Dubenko initially refused to come watch because he appeared to be throwing a jealous hissy fit. I don't get the appeal of either Sam or Gates personally, but to me, they made sense as a couple. They both came from backgrounds that wouldn't necessarily lead you to believe they would end up as successful doctors/nurses, but they overcame it and for better or worse, were able to make it. I know they are broken up for now but I think I remember that they get back together. They make more sense as a couple than Gates ever did with Neela. I'm looking forward to seeing Carter again soon. I don't think I ever watched those episodes when he comes back, except for the series finale.

We were on episode IV when we saw the time jump and suddenly Billy Crow was Bass's posse man with no explanation of how that happened. Then everything got confusing after that. I don't think we will finish the show. Anyone want to convince me that it's worth it? LOL

Neela should never have been allowed to come back to County, especially in the ER after all of the attendings, except Carter, agreed she wasn't suited to emergency medicine. Yet, when she comes back, she's suddenly the best and most sexually desired female working there. And now she's such a great surgeon too. BS. I'm on season 15 and I still don't understand why Brenner is infatuated with her. After she told him that she wasn't interested in getting together with him, despite their "awkward shag", he still follows her around trying to get her to go out with him. Is it just that she's playing hard to get?

Who's everyone? As far as I can see, I'm the only one who actively dislikes Neela. I'm not an Abby cheerleader, but I don't see that she's treated as being more likable or desirable than the way the show depicts Neela. I'm at season 14/15 and suddenly Neela/Brenner throw their clothes off and screw in her office and now he can't stop following her around like a puppy dog and asking her out for dinner or coffee, after we've been shown that he's an a$$ towards towards women he sleeps with. And this is after we're treated to Neela being desired by Ray, Gates, Dubenko, all of the ortho surgeons, and now Brenner. I don't even know why Gallant was so hot for her. Abby is shown her flaws and I agree, I don't think she's a catch either, has too much baggage, is often crabby and seems to always be in a bad mood. I never understood why Carter was so into her but if I remember, he admitted he was drawn to her for an inexplicable reason, and not because she was "hot". His teenage girlfriend at the time who called Abby "hot" was immature and maybe in her eyes, Abby being older and having a career made her seem desirable. I know when I was younger, it would have seemed that way to me. And while we're at it, why is it that Sam is so desirable either? I get that Luka wanted a ready-made family with her and Alex but that was a ton of baggage that she had, but I guess Luka likes that in his women. Sam and Gates make a lot more sense than him with Neela though. I actually think they match pretty well so far.

Just watched the 2 episodes in Season 14 before the writers strike, with the horrible hockey storyline. So we are to believe that suddenly all of the surgeons are really good at hockey and ice skating. And we are to believe that Neela's field hockey experience translates into ice hockey prowess? BS. This has to take the cake as the most ridiculous and unnecessary storyline ever. You can totally see how this show has gone downhill.