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Didn't Tori also produce So Notorious? Regardless, I remember thinking her children's clothing line was cute. She should have stuck with that. Heck, she could have kept that InvenTORI store, at least online and had some good money coming in. I barely remember her saying that probably because I tuned her out when it was nothing but wah, wah, wah. It definitely is something to be concerned about though. She always seemed happy and into her businesses (jewelry, clothing, crafts, etc.) so she clearly needs to get back into that. Given that her acting career has stalled, I'm not surprised that she would be depressed. Honestly, what does she DO all day? She has a nanny/nannies so she's not taking care of Hattie and Finn by herself while Liam and Stella are in school. I know it sounds repetitive but she needs to get back into her crafts and her businesses. At least then she'll have a focus and direction, other than her kids.

I wonder if the episodes aren't being shown in actual order of when they were filmed? Maybe Hattie's birthday was before Jack's party.

I also don't understand why they don't just go ahead and air the remaining episodes. What do they have to lose? It's no worse than True Tori and it's infinitely more fascinating.

Tori is a fucking loon if she thinks that she and Mary Jo have some type of bond. There is no bond. There is only the fact that MJ was once Dean's wife that he cheated on and Tori is now Dean's wife that he has cheated on. That's it. They don't need to have a bond and they don't need to be besties or friends. They need to be polite and civil with one another for Jack's sake. I'm with ghoulina (I think?) wondering why exactly yet another babysitter is needed for 8 days. Dean went to Canada for something like 2 months and the fuss wasn't this big. He'll be in Vegas for a week. Hell, he could fly home several times, or even daily, if he wanted to and could afford it. The flight isn't even an hour. Besides that, having a recovering addict watching your children may not be the best thing. Four children can be rambunctious and the stress in that House of Doom would send a teetotaler to the closest bar. Tori's "friends" never bothered me much before but I wanted to throat punch each of them at Hattie's birthday party. Once Dean started talking to her about her mother, every one of them should have excused themselves and gotten the eff outta there. I don't blame Dean one bit for getting frustrated and walking off. I would have done the same. My ex used to do the same to me - - totally ignore what I was saying to give full attention to friends and respond to them. It's rude and disrespectful and I think it shows that Tori has zero respect for Dean. That little girls trip was painful. I would be pissed if I was expecting to have a fun little wine trip and the entire thing became about one person's neverending drama. They could have stayed home for that. Tori is so damn skinny they should have skipped the wineries and instead visited various delis to eat. Mehran is completely over her. I'm sure he wished he had taken Charlie in the divorce by now. I have no words for Tatum O'Neal. That was completely inexplicable and she is clearly a lifetime card carrying member of the Crazy Pants Club. Showing up is strange enough but then to take off her dress and insert herself into the drama. Ugh. Okay, so I had a few words. I think I posted this on the thread for the previous episodes or in the media thread but I just don't see how Tori and Dean are going to stay together. Both of them are miserable (although Tori does seem to enjoy punishing Dean.) Liam and Stella don't seem happy. Dean was absolutely correct when he said he will never be able to do anything right in Tori's eyes. He won't. There was even a link on Yahoo this morning with an article suggesting their road together was coming to an end.

I miss Josh. Jason's tattoo was excellent but do I think he's the Ink Master? Hmmmm . . . no. I actually wouldn't vote any of the remaining inktestants as Ink Master. Cleen continues his World Tour of Douchiness. I did delight in seeing him getting some negative feedback. Put that in your nutsack and suck it, Cleen. Erik jumping on Mark for getting all high horsed with one win is rich. I did like how Dave assigned the skulls, determining the inktestants' strengths and choosing on that. Much more fair to the canvases versus setting someone up to get a godawful tattoo. I miss Josh.

I'd like to get rid of the human canvas jury but if they are determined to keep it, I'll second (or fourth or whatever) changing their vote from the worst to the best. And not allow the canvas to vote for their own. And yes, get rid of the rival concept. That makes as much sense as bringing back inktestants that were the first two or three voted off on their respective seasons. Just bring in talented artists who'd like to highlight their work. If they are so keen on America voting, why not let America nominate the next round of artists? The best jury are the random people out there who love their own tattoos and artists.

What?? No! This show was my new guilty pleasure. How could they cancel it? ((runs off to pout in the corner)) I am so lame that I sent an email to Lifetime asking them not to cancel it.

Yep, Tori used to have a jewelry line that she sold on HSN or QVC. I remember one of her earlier reality shows where she and Mehran were looking over merchandise and what pieces she would show on a trip to Florida. He's right -- she did get excited over it. I'm assuming that is one of the businesses she let fail once the cheating scandal erupted.

It's a mystery, isn't it? I think I can understand Tori's motivations more. She doesn't want anyone to say "I told you so", after getting involved with a married man and dumping her own seemingly nice husband. Ultimately she wants someone to baby her, coddle her and worship the ground she walks on. Dean did that at one time. I also think she wants to be the more famous or "important" one in the relationship. Tori may also not want to be twice divorced and a single parent. From what we've seen, Dean does do a lot of child rearing duties and things around the house. If he's not there, Tori will have to hire more people and/or get Patsy back. I have wondered if everything on the show is outright bullshit, as season one supposedly was. But there seems to be so much underlying friction and stress, I just can't imagine it's fake. Frankly, I'm very surprised that Dean hasn't pulled the plug at least on his own participation. Although I suppose it's helping his case for being the more rational of the two. Tori is definitely exhausting and I'm disappointed that she is such a mess. I've always enjoyed her previous tv outings and there is just nothing to enjoy with this one. I'll be very surprised if they are still together a year or two from now.

I wonder if Tori suffers from actual migraines or if they are simply stress-induced headaches that she's blown out of proportion?

While Unser and Juice may have gotten the deaths they deserved, Gemma got off easy. I think I would have been more satisfied, and it would have been more fitting, if Jax had walked her out to the flower garden, pointed the gun at her head and then walked away. Let her stew in her own juices, knowing that she had no one left and nowhere to go. Being totally alone without her son, without her grandsons and without the MC would have been the best punishment for her. I agree with others that Jax is preparing to go out. I don't see how can NOT die next week. I have to admit that I did snort with derisive laughter when Jax was informed at the table that killing Jury was flat out murder. What, the other eleventy billion deaths he has caused aren't murder? Uh, okay. Jax is a sucky human being but the one thing he's been terrifically successful at has been murder. Any respect I regained for Wendy before last night is completely gone. Girl, please. As much as I appreciate seeing Jax's ass, I can't help but get squicked out at the thought of where that man's Amazing Technicolor weiner has been. If the MC wants to have a stake in some good money, invest in Jax's White Sneakers of Truth. He must wear a new pair every day. Imagine how much money that would bring in if the president of every MC was doing that. Is it awful that I don't care much about Abel of the Corn? He freaks me out. I worry that basically everyone is going to die next week, save Nero, Wendy and the kids. I wonder if Jax is going to read JT's journal/diary and realize that maybe he took himself out and follow suit?

I'm not saying there is any poor parenting going on. I'm just saying it's a bit disingenuous, I guess, for Kyle to say she wants Portia to understand the value of a dollar based on what we see.

I love watching for the lifestyle I myself do not have (i.e., wealthy) but I feel like if you're going to take your daughter to a high-end boutique, don't claim that you want your child to learn the value of a dollar. Truly if Kyle wants Portia to learn the value of a dollar, she needs to give her a few chores and a small allowance. That's the best way to teach her. JMO.

I officially want to be Lisa Rinna. No, really. I love her personality, her husband is just amazing and she seems like someone that would be fun to hang out with. No airs, no pretensions. I don't think she's fronting here or acting. I think this is really her and I love it. Yes, I'm totally jealous (jelly?) too. That said, Kathy Hilton is a vile sea beast. I thought Kim's daughter Brooke looked GORGEOUS in that first gown. It may not have looked like your typical wedding dress but Brooke said it was going to be a beach wedding so not all the bells and whistles. I really wish someone there had overridden Kathy and told Brooke she looked absolutely stunning and to go with whatever dress SHE wanted, not what the Boob Monster said she should choose. Sorry Kathy but if you unleash Paris Hilton on this world you have no right to judge anyone IMO. So far I like Eileen. I'm interested to see what her relationship with her husband and her home life is like. She looks incredible - - prettier now than she was back in the 90s! Why doesn't Kyle take Portia shopping at Target? Or the GAP? Kids grow out of things so quickly. I realize $500+ is nothing for their income bracket but if you want your daughter to know the value of a dollar, it seems Target would be a better choice than a boutque in BH. I feel for Kim and her former husband Monty. He was a good looking man as I recall. I hope that he's able to beat The Cancer (TM Amber). I'm glad that he and Kim seem to be on good terms. She seems better focused this season - - and definitely more grounded when she's not around that succubus Brandi. Brandi can go anytime. She brings nothing to the table. She doesn't live the lifestyle and she plays the victim ALL. THE. TIME. Lisa V's birthday table for Lisa R was beautiful. Both Lisas looked like they were wearing similiar color dresses. It was nice to see a dinner without any pissy fights or table flipping. Yolanda's daughter Bella is stunning, really stunning. Gigi is beautiful too but I agree with others who say that Bella has more striking features. Can't wait for next week. So far I'm liking this season. I adore Lisa R. and what she's bringing. Have I mentioned I want to be her? More please.

Very well said. I think Tori enjoys therapy not because it's particularly helping her or because she's being fully honest and taking responsibility but because it's all about her for that hour and she has a totally captive audience. Dr. Wexler isn't helping - -she's been Tori's therapist for years and that should say everything right there. The point of therapy is to help, yes, but not indefinitely. A good therapist wants his or her patients to NOT have to come see them any longer. Nevermind the conflict of interest for Wexler to see Tori and Dean together - - she should be referring them to a couples counselor but she should also probably suggest that Tori try a new therapist. One who won't enable and coddle her and will call her on her bullshit. I've watched all of Tori's previous shows and while I think she has certainly had issues for a while (probably due to her upbringing and the relationship with her mother) I don't think they were as pronounced and full-fledged as what we see now. I just don't think she could have hidden them so well. I think they have really come to the surface because of the four children. As others have said, Tori wants to be babied. Dean probably babied her in the beginning but it's hard to do once you have an actual baby, much less four. I think Tori is probably at least slightly resentful of the children, especially the older two, who aren't cute little compliant babies any longer. I understand that she traces their problems back to when she was pregnant with Liam and when he was first born (their problems probably were there from the beginning) but she should consider how Liam is going to take this when he hears it. Which he eventually will, since she said this on camera. It reminds me of a story I read years ago about how upset she was that Liam had seen a supermarket tabloid with Tori and Dean on the cover with a headline about divorce and how she had to explain to Liam what that meant and how terrible that was. What does she think this show is doing to him? He's older now and has a better understanding of what's going on. Others have said that Tori hates Dean but that she doesn't want to divorce him but to control him. I do agree. I wonder though why Dean stays with her. Can he possibly still be "truly madly deeply" in love with her? I can't fathom that. Not unless he knows she's mentally ill and is dedicated to helping her. The only reason I can think of is the children. Financially would he be better off on his own? Jack will be an adult in 2 years, so the effective end of child support. If he could get joint custody of the kids he wouldn't have to worry about paying Tori child support. Maybe he would get more jobs if the "stigma" of reality tv wasn't on him.

This is an excellent point but I also love Schemer's one liners this season. Calling StASSi a cult leader is golden. I also enjoy her pointing out (rightfully so) that there is a fight every year during her party and she gets injured. Which makes me wonder what is on tap for StASSI's birthday this year? I also had no idea you could motorboat a man's groin so thank you, Bravo! I cannot believe how much this show has grown on me. I love it more than my luggage.

For me, Samantha brought the humor and lightened the show up (at least until the cancer storyline). She was more the "everywoman" to me, excepting her number of partners. Other than Miranda, she was the most loyal in my book and she was indeed the only one who didn't judge the others. She may have come across as selfish at times (especially when Miranda had Brady but I also think that was more discomfort and not feeling comfortable around babies) but if you caught your boyfriend cheating on you, Sam would be the one to help hang up signs about the cheater all over town.

Agreed. I don't think Jax paid for anything either and I do agree that it looks good specifically because it doesn't look as though he's had any work done (although clearly he did). Because Jax can pay for tattoos every time he catches scent of a new ho, he can pay for his own damn auto insurance. I realize chunky sweaters ain't cheap but maybe Jax needs to sweet talk FI into buying him a few. When did Jax and Cigarette Sally become besties? Just weird. No Muppet Busboy to speak of? FI and Golden Nugget have the chemistry of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Didn't buy them, not buying these two. I did enjoy how quickly that Dr. Laykes or whatever his name is got the hell out of that exam room. Sure, Jax and FI - -you are the most hereto guys who ever heteroed. That's why you're noticing how attractive the doctor is. Uh-huh. I think I liked Schwartzie so much more when he was barely on screen. And Motorboarding Tequila Katie is so much more entertaining when she's judiciously imbibing in her tequila. I do have to laugh in embarrassment that MT Katie wants to marry Schwartzie so badly and he's clearly not interested. Guy can't even hold down a fairly low stress job for more than your average lunch break and she thinks he's going to be able to go through with getting married? Girl, please. Gordo is cute and super chill. Please keep him away from those pans of brownies. StASSi is absolutely pointless. She's entited and she's a dumbfuck if she doesn't try to make something out of the connections she's getting thanks to this show and Lisa. The magazine may not be much but I imagine as with most industries, the fashion industry is relatively small. Get in good with the photographer and anyone else working on that shoot and network for more (and paying) jobs. Whoever said that StASSi is at Sur more now than she ever was as an employee is spot on. She may as well go back to work there since apparently she can't hang out anywhere else or with anyone other than Vanderpump employees.

So true! If I took a drink every time one of these hos uttered that statement, I'd have alcohol poisoning at the least and outright liver failure at worst. Someone must have told them it made them sound smart.

You too, Baltimore Betty? I have never had issue with my patriotic ass shots being dragged out by the movers. I was grossed out by Brandi's . . . whatever . . . with the 12 year old mover. I think she needs to get herself some therapy, get a real job and even a few good hobbies, get rid of the stripper pole, kick your kids out of your bed and keep your clothes on. Then maybe try to find a nice, decent MAN to date. Brandi and Kim's Cagney and Lacey shtick was painful. Maybe they should have opted for ladybug disguises if they were just going to crouch in the bushes? And that big pinkish scarf Brandi was wearing? Yeah, like you see that everyday in LA. This episode was mostly filler but I love, love, love Lisa Rinna. I would hang out with her in a freaking minute. She seems fun and doesn't take herself so darn seriously. I would have been perfectly happy to have half the episode just Lisa and her agent and her family life. I look forward to Eileen coming on the scene next week.

I'm cool with calling Arianna The Golden Nugget, since that's where she and FI allegedly did or did not hook up in Vegas.

So this episode is called "Jax"? Real original, VP! Okay, Scheana wins for life with the comment about StASSi not having a job because she's too busy being a cult leader. That was made of complete awesomeness. I may have heard Baby Jesus cry over that one. But really, what is StASSi's point this season if she's not working at SUR or Pump? She's become the equivalent of "friend of." Boring. And yes, StASSi, you "ran" Sur - - if running = gossiping, complaining and then running out back for a break and a glass of wine every 15 minutes. No wonder she doesn't have a job now. Schwartzie has wrecked me. Although I suppose if you have a panic attack over eating half a pan of brownies, how on earth are you going to make it for an hour at an actual wage-earning job? When he went to see Lisa, I swear I thought he was going to beg for his job back a la Muppet Busboy. But no, he turned his (dirty) pink shirts in. WTF? I think @ghoulina called it - - Schwartzie needs to provide at-home care for people. Clearly he can do that without issues. Just don't leave brownies around. Jax needs to be under the influence of heavy medications during every episode. He was actually tolerable. And how does he afford such a relatively decent apartment? Sugar daddy? So Flat Iron got a fist bump from Kristen? WTF? Seriously? Are they going to sign a friend contract now? (TM Cynthia) He looked completely uncomfortable, Ariana looked like she might cut a bitch and Kristen looked demented. Do none of these people get the best way to move on and forward is not to associate with each other? And on a daily basis? They work together (well, except for when they are fired and/or on suspension) and then socialize in all the same places? What could go wrong here?

My laundry takes offense with being compared to Apollo. He is nothing but a con man, apparently. The day he became a parent he lost the right to be too important and prideful to work behind the counter at Mickey D's, season ticket holder or not. Thank God he and Porsha never hooked up and procreated. She is basically harmless but when you make Paris Hilton look like a fucking genius . . . girl. And I am sick to death of these hos rolling up an hour late like it's nothing. It's rude and there is absolutely no excuse. I've always liked Kandi but she needs to get her house in order. Moving that beast Mama Joyce in down the street is a HUGE mistake. And letting Riley sit in and participate on Kaela's rules? Hell no. As other posters have said, Riley is well on her way to being a spoiled brat if Kandi doesn't check that. Todd seems like a nice man and he does come across as intelligent so don't mess it up, Kandi. I don't mind Cynthia although I'm not about to take anyone seriously who married Peter. Nene? Why is she on this show? She's clearly too good and she has very little interaction with the other hos. She can take several dozen seats with her remark that Phaedra doesn't owe Kenya an apology. Oh yes she does. It doesn't matter to me that Apollo lied, Phaedra still perpetuated the lie by telling everyone what Apollo said and calling Kenya a whore. Whoever said that Kenya's aunt Lori should be moderating the reunions, I love you. That would be perfect. She doesn't seem to put up with any b.s. I'm meh about Claudia right now. She seemed to be trying awful hard last night.

Cosmocrush, Mehran had mentioned the businesses a couple of episodes ago and Tori said something in her TH about letting them slide because of all the drama surrounding the cheating, etc. As I recall, Mehran was trying to get an idea on what to do about those businesses. I do remember him working with her in the past on her jewelry line.

Co-sign. I would give my right arm and slap my mother in order to have one, just ONE, NY Times bestseller. Tori has a built-in audience for whatever she does, whether it's write a book, host a show, act, etc. I think she made a huge mistake in letting her HSN/jewelry/children's clothing line businesses go. She seemed to enjoy it and I would think she'd make some nice change from them. On all her past reality shows she's said she really enjoys crafts. Maybe she should be looking in that arena versus airing all her dirty (and crazy pants) laundry via Lifetime.