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It was a certain channel that was mocking him and it was not the general population.

Back in the day there was a rumor that Janet Jackson and El Debarge had a secret daughter who they gave up for adoption at the behest of Janet's father: Joe Jackson. He felt that Janet having a child out of wedlock would ruin her image as a burgeoning star. Wendy used to talk about this ad nauseum on her radio show..

That was the best part of the show, it felt like I was intruding on a private conversation between women calling each other out for their contradictions..

I absolutely love the shade on the show's most boring couple ever...😍

Theo should have won custody with Kim getting visitation.

I know that blood is not everything but Makayla should have a relationship with her biological family.

I hate Gwen more than Abby . I find Abby to be just as vile as her retcon sister. My beef with Gwen has to do with the fact that her existence has ruined Jack in my eyes.. Ron is a hack who has ruined so many characters for what exactly.. Bope's children have been useless for a while now, especially Sean-Douglas who serves no purpose. The show does not even try to give him any type of personality. At least Ciara was interesting when Lauren Boyles was in the role.. They ruined her when they aged Ciara for a stupid rape storyline that went nowhere.

I was grinning from ear to ear when I saw Joy today because she makes the show for me flaws and all.. As far as Grisham is concerned, the board sees right through her so I have nothing to add that you guys did not articulate so well..

Why is it that Cynthia always comes across desperate and pathetic when it comes to her "friendships". First it was Nene and now it is Kenya. She was on Andy's show talking about her rift with Kenya. She was saying how much she misses and loves Kenya. I wish that Cynthia would get some self-esteem and not pursue relationships with people who do not value her.

I absolutely hated season 8 but I love reading your perspective on it. It showed me that you are a fan of the show and was able to find enjoyable moments in season 8. I did like that the season finale centered around Piper since she was always the heart of the show when Prue was alive. Piper just became an intolerable bitch during the Paige years. I never understood her romance with Leo, it was cute in season 1 but I never saw Leo being the man that Piper would marry and have children with. As a Prue fan it just pissed me off how Prue was excised from the show and the season finale was just adding insult to injury. It is like Prue never existed and she was an important person in Piper and Phoebe's life. Piper and Phoebe never had moments where they spoke about her. Once they found Paige the show acted like they had grown up with her and Prue was an afterthought.

That would be a beautiful story to tell about the Hortons but we no longer get character-driven stories. We get the likes of Ron who does not have the talent to write anything beyond the campy drivel that he has written..

I was a kid too when Tony and Renee were on the show. Renee was multifaceted and it is why she was so popular. Renee was great with Tony David and Alex Marshall. Renee did go dark like a typical Dimera after she learned that Anna was pregnant with Tony's baby shortly after she had miscarried her own baby by David, Julie's son. She really hated Julie and the Horton clan who treated her like shit. Renee wanted to get rid of Anna and the baby to get Tony back. Her machinations led to Anna miscarrying her baby. Ron is using a period of Renee's life to make her one note in his version of Renee/Sarah. She was a complex character and sympathetic despite her heinous acts. She wanted to be loved and accepted. The Tony/Renee romance was very popular with the viewers. Their brief reunion before she was murdered by Andre was bittersweet..

It had a lot of funny lines that Bea Arthur delivered masterfully like always.. Rose is once again saying that Bob Hope is her father who will be present for their benefit and an exasperated Dorothy says the following to Rose. Rose Rose this is not miracle on 34th street, you are a grown woman holding on to childish games. Bob Hope is not your father, he has no idea who you are and he is not about to come to this place.. There were so many gems like this delivered by Bea Arthur all throughout the episode, even though the episode was about Rose but Bea made it very funny for me.

How do they treat Garcelle over there? Garcelle is a sweetheart...

She also looks to play the martyr..

How the hell did Kim win over the biological uncle? I actually think that they should have shared custody of the little girl. Now the show is going to trash him to make her the better parent. I did like the realistic touch of Kim not knowing how to comb the little girl's hair and bringing her to that Black lady at Kevin's to help her out.

Star was constantly reminding us that she was a lawyer that SNL made fun of her for being braggadocious..

I tuned in yesterday saw Sheryl and she looked so great. I love the show's new energy but I miss Carrie anne though. I think she would have cliqued with this group. Sharon Osbourne and her odious daughter are still trashing the show and Sheryl. I wish that they would both go away. Sharon is blessed with millions so she will never be without. Not too many people who have ever lost a job could say that..

I think that he did have sex with her a couple of times and had to put a stop to it when she wanted more from him. She probably became a real spiteful bitch and he had to part ways with her professionally..

I always thought that Will was a terrible writer and I have never understood why the characters were always praising him for it..

What the hell was Whoopie saying? she derailed the conversation with her ramblings. Tafoya is annoying with her both sides.. I loved Sunny challenging her when she said that she was an independent..

Script writers create the dialogue but Ron likes to write dialogue as well. He was bragging on tweeter ad nauseum about having Chanel saying the line "White people are crazy"..

Sunny has always been forceful with her opinions and she pushes back hard. She was like this when she first got on the view, she and Jedidiah used to have some arguments but they were able to leave it at the table and were close friends off the show. Sunny went to her wedding and everything.. Like you said, Sunny suppressed herself during the Megan years for job security. Whoopie is an icon in the Black community and Sunny being Black herself is showing deference towards Whoopie. It is not ass-kissing in my opinion and even though she may not always challenge Whoopie when she makes her asinine pronouncements. I understand why Sunny chooses not to do that.

Really? You do know that Sunny and Ana are close friends off the show and have known each other for years going back to Sunny's days on CNN. The ladies travel together and everything. Sunny is also close with Joy and many other ladies who used to co-host on the view.

Do you guys think that Kim and Kanye engage in narcissistic abuse of other people? Narcissists love to engage in that and they also thrive in chaos while playing martyr in situations that they themselves caused.