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Wow, a missionary visa isn’t for the average Joe to stay in the country?! Geez, color me surprised! I’m intrigued by Arielle and Leandro. I’ve never had an ex relationship like this and have never had a partner with an ex relationship this intimate. So Ari just disappeared one day without discussing where the relationship stood then resurfaced to announce a surprise pregnancy? So bizarre and intriguing. Bini’s surprise attack was pretty barbaric and I’d be appalled if someone suddenly turned a simple training session into a full blown fight. How awkward was that dinner with Tsion lol. I saw an IG meme that compared Ellie’s face to Elizabeth II and now I can never unsee it when she’s onscreen. Also, Ari as Quasimodo.

I think Kalani enjoys talking shit about Asuelu to her family. I think she enjoys the attention she gets as feel as well as the pity and sympathy. Not sharing a bedroom does not HAVE to mean there is no love or romance. Kalani is absolutely ridiculous; has she ever met another couple with young children? Of course you don’t have much time alone or to yourselves! Or course he doesn’t focus on little cute romantic gestures! Everyone is utterly exhausted and spent while raising toddlers. And omg, why are they CRYING?! How are they able to conjure tears at a furniture store on a showroom bed? Did Jovi time travel to 1935 to make an incredulous comment about breastfeeding in public while covered?? Oh no, that lady has a blanket covering her breasts while an infant drinks milk! Call the village elders! I get where Yara’s coming from with her anxiety over little details and being too worried to leave her baby. It might sound insane but my first didn’t have a night away from me until he was over 2. I fussed constantly over my kids when they were newborns too. It’s hard to relax and have fun when you’re pumping every few hours to keep your supply going. On another note, it’s an old myth that you cannot drink alcohol while breastfeeding. The alcohol content in breastmilk is the same as in your blood, which when fully intoxicated is less than what naturally occurs in apple juice and far too low to harm the baby. Unless you’re blackout drunk, you CAN drink and continue to breastfeed.

Because of exactly what happened to Myrka. Attalie is her and Ethan’s responsibility and NO ONE else’s, no matter what they promise. Charlie and Michelle owe her nothing and sure, they’d be dirtbags to go back on their word but they certainly could. That’s why I say if YOU and your partner cannot imagine a way to feed and clothe and house your own child, you should not be having children.

Myrka showed some maturity and awareness when she expressed that her presence put strain on Ethan’s parents. It might not have directly caused their divorce but it undoubtedly contributed to it. But Myrka’s tears were 90% about herself; she’s worried about her own future without financial support from Ethan’s parents and her own loss of a surrogate family. Unpopular opinion but if you cannot fathom a way to feed and clothe your baby, you should’ve scheduled that abortion. Ethan seems SO childish to me. And slow. How rich are Michelle and Charlie that they’re able to afford college for Myrka as well as their 3 children?! Alex is such a stonewaller. I really don’t care about their storyline and it all looked a little fake but I feel sorry for anyone who has to confront a stonewalling partner who will not admit they don’t love you anymore. Everyone’s projecting way too many “good dad” comments onto Lawrence. He’s been a parent for like 38 minutes. He’s not a good dad or a bad dad, he’s just a dad at this point. Everyone’s so scared of spooking Lawrence and having him run off like the first baby daddy. He was really being a dick about Aaliyah holding the baby. Of course they should include the older sibling! The way 3 adults were nagging her about the baby is a surefire way to build sibling resentment. But Lawrence wouldn’t know or care about that. He seems completely dismissive and annoyed by Aaliyah.

Brandon is a weasel-faced little bitch. After Julia cussed him out for his lack of support, he laughed and said “whatever”. Even my toddler is not this rude. My mouth is agape that he would say “please don’t plan weddings and ruin someone’s special day”. That isn’t pessimism. That is dismissive and cruel. If I tried, I would not be able to be this rude to my partner. In the 10 years I’ve been watching reality tv, I’ve never fast forwarded through any part of an episode. I’ve sat through it ALL. But I fast forward through Libby and Andrei because her grumpy cat mouth and chin annoy the fuck out of me. It’s all fake as shit. Natalie’s passive aggression knows no bounds. She’ll skin a cat one day with the widest smile on her face. Also, the weird thing she did about being “in the house” was bizarre and NOT cute. How will she get home from the hotel lol

I majorly judge Mackenzie and Josh for their shitty parenting as evidenced by their 4 year old’s teeth. That kind of dental work can only be due to lack of any brushing/cleaning and/or going to bed with a bottle. I have a 3 year old and sometimes he can be psychotic but Bronx laughing at the notion of biting his teacher was frightening. I wouldn’t have taken it so lightly. But I give Mackenzie major props for advocating for her son’s needs when Josh would much rather ignore it (and his son). I know I’d be an anxious mess losing a grandparent and moving to a new state that’s 20 hours away from my dad; poor Bronx is crying out for attention and validation. Didn’t they take Jaxie on a trip without the boys? It’s so shitty they can’t give Bronx the 1:1 time he deserves. Speaking of shitty parenting, propping your toddler up with a tablet during dinner is absolutely horrible. I don’t expect anything less from Catelynn and Tyler though. I don’t imagine they think very deeply about parenting. Can you imagine the environmental impact of Cheyenne’s party to find out the sex of a baby? It must be nice to have so much time and money. Good for her.

Omg stop with the insistence of a “bond” with Leah, Amber. If you have to insist you’re a good mom, you absolutely are not. Somebody watching your lame ass Instagram stories does not indicate the process of a bond. And of course all good moms reach out to their kids via Snapchat and accuse them of being fake! Leah’s realization that Amber is nothing but the uterus that housed her is giving me life. I wouldn’t have had the courage or clarity to voice that kind of opinion at 12, so I give Leah massive props for her maturity and wisdom at such a young age. She’s sticking to her boundary of no 1:1 time and that’s amazing. Tyler is entitled and delusional when it comes to Carly. YES, it’s fully your responsibility to reach out if you want to know Carly. Cate and Tyler yelling over each other makes my head hurt. Catelynn’s makeup looked nice this episode and not so...drag queen-like. Can you imagine complaining to your boss about your absentee husband after your son takes a shit in his garage? It blows my mind that she thinks this is professional and appropriate. Well, isn’t Cheyenne a pleasant little ray of sunshine, screeching at her sister “nobody cares about you!” in front of two young kids. I cannot believe nobody said like hey, I know you’re anxious but chill the fuck out and mind your basic manners. I hate that the little toddlers witnessed such a rude remark. And then they comforted her! Whoever mentioned Zach’s brother upthread is not exaggerating; that man is frickin gorgeous. I hope he works in film or modeling cuz holy crap that face. And that voice!

Such a boring episode. Alex’s poor, poor grandma. It’s so sad that Julie’s pregnancy automatically meant more bills and childcare for her because Julie’s been such a consistent deadbeat. It’s very difficult for me to imagine her being sexually active. Aden is on his phone, bored to shit waiting for the arrival of his son. He can barely be bothered to look up. I’m sure he’ll be a lively, attentive father. I totally, completely understand Myrka’s desire to breastfeed. My first breastfed easily for 16 months. My second required exclusive pumping, supplementing with formula and daily medication for me to lactate sufficiently. It’s overwhelming and stressful to say the least. I thought Ethan’s mom was very kind and supportive in explaining the feeding process. It might be upsetting that she can’t breastfeed NOW but it doesn’t mean it’ll never happen. In the meantime, the baby has to eat. Attalie looks jaundiced so I have no doubt the formula helped. I wish so many moms weren’t so adamantly against formula; breastmilk is better but formula is just fine.

Ugh I just realized this should be E10 but I don’t know how to edit post titles. Such a newb. I’m nauseated by the fact that Aiden, who finds his girlfriend’s labor “annoying” is going to be somebody’s father. I give it 2 weeks before the baby’s needs also become annoying to him. I’m Canadian and don’t know anyone who was induced but it seems so prevalent in the US! And of course we don’t know all the information, but Jenna’s reasons for inductions seem to just be “because I want to”. I remember having so many petty, stupid fights with my high school boyfriend and I cannot even fathom bringing a screaming, never-sleeping baby into the mix. I’d feel sorry for these poor kids if they weren’t so dumb and irresponsible.

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Lol at Natalie treating the legal counsel as a therapy session. Is she dressed in that skin tight midriff top to entice Mike and remind him of her irresistible sexuality? Were her boobs always that big? Mike looks like he can barely stay awake, he’s so bored by Natalie and her boring problems like expired visas, a deadly new virus and travel restrictions. Geez, why does she keep asking him about their plans like she has 24 hours to figure out her life? Annoying. Rebecca looked god awful in that dress. She kept touching her midsection probably because her lungs hurt from being squeezed into that dress. I’ve never seen anyone so closely resemble 50 lbs of potatoes in a 5 lb bag. Her hair and makeup looked equally tortured. I got second hand embarrassment hearing that a 50-something year old grandma wanted to feel like a princess on her FOURTH walk down the aisle. Hazel and Tarik looked lovely and it was a cute little ceremony. Tarik has some great friends, which must say something about him, right?

Yes Lilly, I’m sure Lawrence is devastated about not going to a baby store and scanning registry items. I cannot believe that this girl who’s pregnant for the second time before 20 is having a second elaborate baby shower. First of all, baby #2 can ABSOLUTELY use everything you had with baby #1 even if they’re a different sex. Lilly did not have a Pack n Play or breastfeeding pillow from her first baby? And wtf is a spaghetti salad?! Poor Layla, whose mother thinks she’s property and thinks the cuteness of a bow outweighs her daughter’s comfort. It’s very telling that she cared more about the cuteness of the party than whether or not her daughter would enjoy herself. Who cares if Layla’s a bit late? Parties are a lot to handle and anyone in their right mind would take a well-rested, happy baby over a cranky tired one. I would be annoyed beyond belief if my partner came in hot with her opinions and demands when she spends all of 4 days a month with the kid. Alex is 100% correct that waking up a baby and getting them out the door is enough of a task without having to wrangle a fucking hair bow. Tyra wouldn’t know these things cuz she’s never, ever around to handle these issues. I hate that Tyra’s trashy mom just smashed that cake right into a baby’s face and everyone laughed while she cried. The baby absolutely had a miserable time, regardless of how that made Tyra “fill”. This family breeds so quickly, frequently and thoughtlessly that there are five living generations of them. Nauseating. Also, Tyra’s speaking voice is infuriating. She sounds congested and her accent is so unattractive and unintelligent. Ugh, I’ve had two epidurals and they both hurt terribly. Birth is so beautiful...except for the gross stuff that comes before and after. The thing I miss about babies the most is feeling the tiny weight of a newborn on your chest. I’m sad for Myrka for continuing to crave a relationship with her mother when her mother has repeatedly and clearly articulated her disinterest and disdain. She needs to find a good therapist and distance herself from her mother but unfortunately she’ll likely just be disappointed and hurt over and over again. Both Jenna and Aiden talk so slowly, quietly and inarticulately that they both sometimes require captions.

Amira is SO fucking dumb. Andrew’s gaslighting and blame shifting and non-stop threats aren’t an indicator that oh, I dunno, maybe he’s not a suitable acquaintance let alone fiancé? What is wrong with people?! He’s making it abundantly clear he doesn’t respect her or want to be with her. Take a god damn hint. Natalie drives me insane but I really felt sorry for her. Nobody, not even psychotic clowns deserve to be broken up with on the morning of their wedding, and especially not during the beginnings of a confusing pandemic. In March of last year, I was sanitizing my door handles as if some Covid-positive person would come sneeze on it. I would’ve definitely been nervous getting on a plane too. Add in a completely unexpected breakup and I’d be falling apart. Good on her for setting boundaries and blocking him. Good riddance. I feel bad for Yara too; the first trimester is horrible and I’d absolutely hate being in Vegas with an alcoholic boyfriend. Of course he’s not paying attention to his sober, boring fiancé. All he EVER wants to do is party and I don’t know what convinced Yara he’d ever change. He had to be convinced to spend some with his fiancé before their wedding lol. This is the most romantic he’ll ever be, so strap in for a fun road Yara. How can someone who’s said vows three times and broken them realistically think a fourth marriage will stick? Why do you need family and friends to witness your commitment when clearly it means nothing to you? Her friend is pretty sage with her advice - isn’t the whole point of this to be married to her 27 year old fourth love of her life? I hate when people say “nobody understands” like a petulant teenager. You’re right Becks, nobody could possibly understand being overwhelmed and underprepared, with too many tasks and too little time. Get over yourself.

Mackenzie really shouldn’t be on her phone while speeding down a freeway, crying with grief. Isn’t there a better time to do that? Her daughter is a very old thumb sucker. Truly no judgement there because I’m fairly certain my son will be a 7 year thumb sucker too, despite my best efforts to curtail him. The lovestruck look on her face when Josh called was disgusting. I truly wish she’d forget that idiot and I’m confused why she wanted him to come and now doesn’t? Her Florida house looked pretty cute and it was nice seeing the kids so excited. I can’t believe Maci’s segments are about running 5k. Listen, I’m a flabby mom whose pants haven’t fit for like a year and I’m confident about running a 5k, although there’s no way in high hell I could do it in 33 minutes. Ryan looks like a drugged out homeless man. If he were sitting outside, I’d give him my change. Good for Catelynn for accomplishing something besides procreating. Hopefully she sticks with this for longer than 2 episodes. I’m shocked you can rent commercial spaces for $750/month anywhere. Cheyenne’s friends are very cool and Ryder is a great dancer. She’s wearing a chambray prison jumpsuit for some reason but she’s still adorable. I think it’s embarrassing when people push hard for engagements.

Mackenzie needs to start divorce proceedings. She earns the money, she’s beautiful and thin and doesn’t look haggard and exhausted like the rest of us with young kids. She doesn’t need that comatose moron; she’ll hopefully meet some gorgeous Puerto Rican who’ll make her forget who Josh ever was. Good for her for telling him off because he really is a horrible human. Catelynn is so neurotic about being pregnant because she has literally nothing else going on in her life. When the rest of us get an inconclusive test, we wait a day or two and test again instead of buying and wasting 8 tests and ruining a perfectly good Tupperware container. They weren’t faint positives, you imbecile. You had “line eyes” because you desperately need something to talk about when people ask you what’s new. Ryder is one of the cutest kids I’ve ever seen. She’s freaking adorable and so cute when she talks. She makes me desperately want a daughter.

Stephanie rolling around the bed howling was...something else. She really is insane. Even if I were acting for the cameras, I couldn’t summon this level of demonic insanity. She’s perfect for reality tv. Jovi is gross. Who gropes their fiancée with their grandparents and extended family watching?! Beyond vulgar. He does seem selfish and I can see him accidentally leaving Yara with the kid for 12 days because he got so wasted he forgot where he lived. I have no sympathy for her though because semi-permanent birth control is widely available and very affordable. God, Tarzel is so boring, especially Hazel. She’s like human Ambien. If she’s the Asian Angelina Jolie, I’m the Canadian Kendall Jenner. Full disclosure, I’m probably uglier than Kendall Jenner’s dog. FINALLY Mike says what we’ve been waiting all season to hear! He’s not ready to marry her! Hurrah! Of course Natalie contorts the situation and thinks he’s trying to manipulate his way out of infidelity. If my fiancé told me he doesn’t think we fit together, I’d have a lot of questions, like are we breaking up? Should I book a flight home? Natalie just sat stonily on the couch then later asked for her ring back! How would a ring make her feel better about the infidelity she so firmly believes he committed?? If she truly thinks he fucked Sara, she’s still willing to marry him? I totally believe he didn’t sleep with his friend. I agree with Natalie that he shouldn’t have brought her to the US if he didn’t intend to marry her though. Maybe he thought if they lived together, he’d fall in love with her again 🤷‍♀️. Brandon is a spineless weasel. He can’t experience an itchy buttcrack without telling his parents about it. Father Brandon’s right; pregnancy is easily preventable and they should both learn a good lesson from this scare.

I cannot stand Natalie but Mike is being straight up cruel. He keeps saying they need to communicate and “work on things” but he shuts down completely or acts like a passive aggressive teenager. Will he give her back the ring? Why doesn’t he want to plan the wedding? Does he actually want to marry her? In the words of Ron Swanson, “when you have a fish on the line, you don't just drag it behind the boat. You either reel it in, or you cut him loose.” He looks ridiculous with that Bluetooth earpiece in during the counseling session. Man can you imagine the arguments Yara and Jovi will have once they have a screaming infant and nobody has slept more than 90 consecutive minutes? If neither of them want a frickin baby, then book yourselves a hasty abortion. JFC. Seeing Stephanie down those drinks explains the constant slurring and slow blinking. She’s manipulative and vengeful even though she’s the one who fucked his cousin. She will always, ALWAYS use her money as leverage. And I’m totally with Ryan on the psychic thing. How is he to defend himself against something he hasn’t done yet? Her desperation for sex is just nauseating and I hope she fucks Harris again next week just to mess things up even more.

I didn’t feel any sympathy watching Reanna give birth during the pandemic. I just felt annoyed that she was making it out to be such a big deal. Like you could’ve just had protected sex maybe if you didn’t want to experience a C section? Danica is a beautiful baby and at least talking about her made Reanna smile for once Lilly looks much worse at 19 than she did at 16. It’s not just the braces either. Watching the flashback of her crying through contractions was annoying too. Yes they hurt. USE FUCKING PROTECTION. I also hate when people release balloons or other waste for any reason but especially for ridiculous things like gender reveals. That’ll choke a turtle so you can obnoxiously announce that your child has a penis. I’m surprised Lilly has done research on circumcision and is advocating for her son. I agree with her; you don't need to have a penis to make a decision for a child who has one. On a positive note, Lawrence’s mom seems very kind and it’s great that she and Lilly have such a strong relationship. Jenna and Aiden both mutter and speak with so little articulation that they require subtitles. I actually feel bad for Jenna, whose parents are so petty and immature that they can’t agree on a casual food to serve at a god damn teenagers baby shower. It’s great to tell your partner to “go fuck yourself” over a minor disagreement. I’m sure these two will make it.

If Yara has lied in the past and “joked” about a fake pregnancy, then she deserves all the disbelief in the world from Jovi. Why doesn’t Jovi use a real cup in his own home? I detest wastefulness. Stephanie’s fake sobbing was sad to watch. Her pleading for intercourse was even sadder to watch. I actually felt kind of bad for Natalie this episode. If Mike isn’t comfortable getting married, he needs to SAY SO. If he feels like they should work out some shit, TELL HER WHAT SHIT. I would be a terrible therapist because I’d just yell at patients “why is communication so difficult? It’s as easy as talking, you fucking dimwit”

Lol at Catelynn saying “when will I have time to pursue my dreams?” What dreams? The ones of sitting on the couch scrolling Instagram? I know it’s a foreign concept to her but the first step of a dream is TRYING something. The vet thing didn’t happen because it sounded hard. The retail line didn’t happen because it was Tyler’s passion project. What happened to the makeup master class thing? What about the baby food thing? I feel like Kristina will always have a hard time firmly vocalizing her concerns. She laughs while joking about Amber being their teenage daughter but I sense that she actually thinks it’s inappropriate. I don’t care who Cheyenne dates. There is no ambiguity about Mackenzie’s marriage. Josh doesn’t want to be in it, so how can she “save” it? She was incredibly childish to hang up right after she didn’t receive the answer she wanted. She had no follow up questions? Like “will you be initiating the divorce?” or “where will you live”? Mackenzies sister looks like she’s 50 years old. Just get a fucking divorce already. I’m sick of seeing them miserable.

Natalie gets weirder and weirder every episode. “Mike makes jokes and I’m not sure why”. Is she an alien?? Human, what is mirth? I think Mike’s mom meant that the fat in butter is good for a growing brain, like for a baby. Even so, it should be healthy fats (like from an avocado) but I think that’s what she was getting at. She seems like a great mom; I like that she was probing and offered suggestions but didn’t come off judgmental even though she was overall pessimistic about their prospects. Man, Natalie was absolutely giddy after setting a date. Stephanie ALWAYS talks like she’s drunk, with half open eyes and a slight slur in her words. But she does have an amazing body for a 54 year old. If I were hiding some infidelity, I’d cleanse my phone more thoroughly than a crime scene before my fiancé arrived. Sex 4 times a night? Ew. Pass. Somehow I think Ryan will forgive her for fucking his cousin. My, isn’t Brandon a dismissive little shit. Oh you hate this Julia? I think animals are awesome so you must be way overreacting. The preview of his parents going ballistic at the thought of their almost-30 year old son moving out is so ludicrous it’s almost funny. Except Father Brandon looks kind of terrifying when he’s mad and Mother Brandon probably uses her tears often to get their way. They pushed him to date and are now furious he wants to be married and live his own life. What the actual fuck do they want from this kid? Why is Amira so hung up on Andrew? Are there no chubby emotionally manipulative men in France? If she needs time to recover and isn’t comfortable trying another option to fly to the US, why doesn’t she say so?? He’s too busy enjoying his nicely marbled filet mignon to care what being detained felt like. I hate when people don’t speak up and just expect their partner to feel exactly what they’re feeling. Stand up for yourself, FFS.

That fight between Natalie and Mike was spectacular. It’s why I sit through producer-driven drivel week in and week out. She couldn’t find ONE American guy who has an obsession with healthy eating and exercise and who maybe lives in a nice downtown condo? She had to pick the portly beer guzzling onion ring eating lumberjack who lives in buttfuck Sequim. I’m not ragging on Mike’s eating habits either; I think he and I would make a better couple. I finished 3 pints of ice cream this weak and REALLY look forward to my evening wine. Natalie needs therapy ASAP. It’s unhealthy to attack someone’s intelligence just because they wanted stir-fry and refused a kiss. Brandon saying “I just wish someone would tell me what to do” says everything about him. He’s paralyzed by decision-making and goes mute any time his parents scold him, which is most of the time. Speak up, boy! What is he so afraid of?? He has a full time job and I KNOW he can find a shitty apartment somewhere if his parents kicked him out. Why is he so terrified all the time? His weakly excuses, blaming the wind for the hot tub cover, then blaming Julia for being late to help out in the mornings are infuriating. He is truly just a weak person and it’s irritating to watch.

Do you love your sister? HOW MUCH DO YOU LOVE HER? Leah needs to read a parenting book, or just try a parenting podcast. As someone mentioned upthread, her twins are not friends and the sooner she accepts it, the sooner she can adjust her parenting accordingly.

I cannot stand Jovi’s sulky, snippy attitude like he’s a 15 yo out shopping with his mom and can’t wait to go home to use his PS5. “Let’s just pick one so we can get out of here”. I get furniture shopping isn’t for everyone but then he shot down her choice and didn’t even try to compromise. Then the little snipe about “learn English”. Seriously, this is teenager shit. I can’t stand him. That poor saleslady who listened to their bullshit and didn’t even get a sale. Stephanie is a little kooky but holy crap does she look amazing for 52. I’m 33 and she barely looks older than me. Maybe even younger since two tiny demon spawn haven’t sucked the life and energy out of her. It was beyond weird for her to have her arm around a psychic while FaceTiming Ryan. Yikes about the cousin hookup. That sounds like a good way to start a marriage for sure. Mike doesn’t seem to give a tiny shit about Natalie. I hate her but I’m totally on her side about everything. He should’ve known about her healthy eating and stocked the fridge a little. He should’ve put himself in her shoes for like one minute and imagine spending 12 hours everyday alone with no car and absolutely nothing to do but watch TV. I hope he has great internet service out there. Maybe she can take a course.

“Guess what I went and done” says Leah. She learned to give nasal sprays at her local community center! She needs English lessons. Could Victoria be any more apathetic about Leah’s past struggles with addiction? That was hilarious to watch in itself. Leah’s curls were on point though. Briana saying “you HAVE to like your dad” is so messed up. You don’t HAVE to like anybody, ever. Is it even a little surprising that stone-faced, boring Luis is not Stella’s favorite? He shows zero interest in her and she knows it. It’s painfully obvious Briana has had no father figure to model a paternal relationship. I feel bad for her but she could do a little reading or consider a little counseling to help her overcome her lack of experience with fathers. I read extensively about fostering healthy sibling relationships because I don’t have any myself. I didn’t have my own experiences to draw on so I borrowed from others who did.