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Thank you! I am late to the party here (busy holiday week), but I could not figure out how Cassian knew where Luthen's ship was - this totally makes sense now. I loved that exchange. I wonder if hearing Maarva's speech helped change Luthen's mind about Cassian. His little smile was perfect - you could see his wheels spinning on what he could do with a guy a like Cassian on his side...... This show was amazing. Tony Gilroy really knows how to amp the intensity - that funeral scene - wow. By the time the music stopped I was fairly jumping out of my skin waiting for whatever was going to drop! Maarva's speech - incredible, and yet, only the third best on this series! What!??? This from a franchise with such gems as "I have a bad feeling about this" and "Hello There". Talk about an upgrade in dialogue! I don't know what Karn is doing with Dedra, but it is creepy and I am here for it. They are both awesome. Mon Mothma - cold as ice. Her turd of a husband deserves whatever happens from this exchange. Yet another "Climb!" - I think that should have been the name of this show. Still, glad Bix got out with some of her marbles intact. Glad that Maarva got to fight the Empire when Brasso started beaning people with her brick. Bring on the next season! FIGHT THE EMPIRE!!!!!!

I completely agree with this. I am the parent of 2 Gen Z teens, both of whom are very into Tik Tok, have access to D+ and could give a crap about voting for a tv show contestant, no matter if it was someone they liked. Even with the move to Disney+, I think this show's viewership is old. That being said, my LGBTQ daughter has watched on and off with me this season and she is rooting for Shangela, not Charli ;-p I think it ultimately comes down to whether the regular viewers of this show embrace Charli's ringer status and vote for her just because she's the best dancer. I don't think it will be because of her Tik Tok status if she wins.

Wow. This show has become a joke. I have really enjoyed this forum, but I think I'm done with it.

Exactly! I haven't started watching yet, but I cannot get over this! Josh O'Connor had a passing resemblance, but Dominic West looks NOTHING like Charles. At all. I don't get that casting. It's completely distracting.

All of these things bugged me this episode. All seem like plot holes/conveniences for the sake of this episode's storyline. And don't even get me started on the stupidity of the back rub currency. Kind of disappointing. It was the best line. I love when all of their era specific prejudices are played for laughs. This was almost as funny as Hetty's Irish hatred.

SO.GOOD. Every week, I cannot sleep after I watch this because I'm too hyped/disturbed. So many epic lines this episode! Luthen's speech is heartbreaking. Lonni's isolation and impossible position is heartbreaking. Mon Mothma's choice is heartbreaking. "I can't swim". Heartbreaking. "I'd rather die trying to take them down than die giving them what they want". Was there ever any sentence more prophetic? Is this the moment where Cassian Andor completely becomes the guy who is willing to sacrifice everything in Rogue One? Was Cassian and that one guy the only two who survived that swim? Another episode of Cassian Andor "climbing". Love the callback again. ONE WAY OUT! ONE WAY OUT!

Presuming Wayne and Charli make the finals, I am hoping the other two are Shangela and Gabby. I do love Daniel and Trevor, but I think they've taken it as far as they can, and the other two are just better dancers. My personal favorite to win is Shangela. I have been most entertained by them this season. Gabby is great, but I don't need another Bachelorette to win again, and I don't like Val. I wouldn't mind Wayne winning either, but I am prepared to see Charli crowned winner though. Zzzzzz........

I know Tyra is terrible, and people are pissed about the move to D+, but I am loving this season - it's made me like a Bachelorette and Gleb, two things I never thought I would say! And with the elimination of Vinny and Heidi, I enjoy everyone left to some degree. Every week there is at least one dance that makes me feel something. I loved the 90's theme - I was a older teen/college student so that is my era! I had to pick my dog up and dance around my office with him when I heard Ice Ice Baby ;-p I have been rooting for Wayne since day one, but I have to admit my allegiance is shifting. He was over scored to me. He did not look smooth, and why does every single dance feel like a hip hop routine? I still like him, but he's slipped for me. I still hope he makes the finals though. My actual favorites now are Gabby, Trevor and Shangela. I know none are as polished as Charli (although Gabby is close), but I am always left smiling when they are done. I died laughing when Derek took his shirt off after Gabby's dance. I freaking love her! Gabby is so funny and weird I can't help liking her. Her joking with Alfonso and genuine excitement over her scores has made her a delight to me. And Trevor - he is what this show is about! Can a non dancer be taught to dance? And he is killing it to my eyes! What the heck was the horrible score???? Charli is excellent, but I just watch and then it's over. Every week, it's pretty, it's precise, it's intricate and difficult. I feel nothing. I FF through the judges because I just know a tongue bath is coming. Blech. Much like her mom, no personality, which is why I am rooting for the three above. I'll take passion over perfection any day, especially on this dumb show! Daniel's dance is the one that stuck with me after it was over. I remember Nyle and Peta dancing without music, but this touched me. Maybe because the song was "Enjoy the Silence", by my favorite band when I was 18, from my favorite album of the nineties. Sometimes you can tell he can't hear the music, but this worked for me. I loved it. I got teary when Derek did. It made me thankful for being able to hear, something I take for granted every day.

I watched this episode last night and I couldn't sleep because I couldn't stop thinking about it. I used the word chilling about last week's episode, but this one doubled down. This show is really pulling back the curtain on why the Empire is EVIL with a capital E. The complete control on every level is nightmarish. Even Mon Mothma's conversation with Tay was real world scary - it's her money but she can't access it because even that is being monitored and she can't even speak about it out loud in her own home! The euthanasia of poor Ulaf was horrifying on a level Star Wars has never reached, and knowing the doctor was just as helpless there as Cassian or Kino made it even more bleak. The realization no one is leaving that prison. The blithe torturing and murder of people on Ferrix with the knowledge that Cassian's mom is probably next. It was all so awful, and not a Vader or Palpatine or Dooku in sight. Scary stuff.

Perhaps the finale could be open to a public vote and they could do a two night extravaganza like the old days. Honestly, I don't know why they can't bring back the results show like they used to have, especially now that it airs on D+ - it's not like the results show is taking a prime time slot since it's on demand.

Perhaps the way to fix this is to just have the live audience in the studio vote, much like Masked Singer, and continue to let the judges pick who actually goes home.

I totally agree. It pains me to say it, but I do think Heidi is a better overall dancer than Jordin, but she seems absolutely joyless, and Jordin is the exact opposite. But I've thought all season Jordin would be better with a different pro. Bummed that it came to this since the obvious worst didn't even make it into the bottom two...... The only thing that makes me not furious about Vinny is that if it does turn into a Bobby Bones situation, how funny would it be to have him beat their golden girl Charli? My favorites were Trevor and Shangela. I cannot believe how much better Trevor has gotten over the last few weeks! Was it perfect, no, but the music, costumes and choreography were great, and he was good enough to sell all of it. Loved it. Same with Shangela. That last lift and head twist was awesome. Maybe Gleb should always dance with drag queens. It's his best work on this show ever. I am still rooting for Wayne, but that was not great. It looked more like a freestyle than contemporary. I like Alan more than Val, and I think Gabby did great with him. I liked Daniel's Paso too, but I fear he's next on the chopping block if Vinny escapes the bottom again.......

I agree with everyone saying they still don't know the names of these couples! As of this episode, I know Mattie and Linton, Glenda and Lumumba, "the brothers" and "the sisters". I don't actually know their names. Then there's "The couple in red" who won the last two legs, "that other couple", and "Claire and her partner" . This is how I think of all of them. The people eliminated with Covid was also "that other couple". That's pretty bad. I just think there's nothing particularly unique or interesting about any of these nameless people, so they all blend together. They are dating or married or something. It's just a sea of blandness. I was seriously stressed at how long the military brother (whose name I still don't know!) was taking to build that cart. They showed up second and left in fifth place! And then carried the cart the whole way to Phil! I would think with the care he put into building it, the thing would at least have been sturdy enough to roll. They are my favorites, along with the sisters and the four whose names I actually know ;-p I was disappointed to see another dancing challenge this episode. This is the second one this season, and with the yodeling and bells it feels very musical challenge heavy.

I finished it, but if there is a second season, I won't be watching. I am frustrated at the surprise at the end with Dr. Stanton. I had to go online and figure out what it meant. I guess I should have been paying better attention. Both my husband and I went "huh? what's happening?" and then it was just over! No answers about the time warp hallway or creepers and shadow people. I guess we're just supposed to assume it has something to do with the weird energy in the house? I was way more invested when it was the scenes with the kids, but lost interest every time they launched into their club stories. Like, I really didn't care. Only one I found gripping was the one Natsuki told with the road to nowhere. Ilonka kept saying how smart she was, but man, she was pretty annoying at how gullible she ended up being. Stanton should have kicked her out after that first ceremony! I was actually happy when she defied Stanton yet again and told everyone about someone going home and was wrong about who it was. Awkward! I did like how conflicted Sandra was when she found out she was leaving. I am guessing that's going to be some massive survivors guilt she will have to deal with. I'm glad she and Spencer became friends. The only "flanaverse" netflix show I haven't watched is Midnight Mass. I would put this one par with Bly Manor. Ok, but not great. I like that these are horror light because I don't really like horror, but I wish they were all as good as Hill House. Oh well. I will watch definitely be watching Fall of the House of Usher.

I feel the same - I don't know why the moth was necessary - Eliza has shown herself to be resourceful enough to have discovered the secret passage without the moth leading her there. The whole mother in law plot made little sense, but cutting this fantastical denouement would have made it slightly more realistic. I did love the photo of the dead woman with the pyramid and her pipe.

@gingerandcloves - this is why I stop watching about 2 episodes past the honeymoons the last few seasons. The show is really not interested in making any good matches anymore, and there are about 10 too many episodes to each season. I'm disappointed, but not surprised about this group. Overall, mostly decent people, just horribly mismatched.

Roger Roger! Chilling is the word that comes to mind. The humming of that floor would give me nightmares. I cannot wait to see what happens with him! Kyle Soller plays petulant sad sack so well! I loved that exchange. Dedra is so awesome - I love that she has read him right and is putting that weasel in his place. But still, it will be fun finding out what said weasel manages to do from this point! I cannot say how much I love this show - everything and every character is working for me. I wasn't that excited before it started knowing how Rogue One ends, but it sucked me in completely. Diego Luna is fantastic. He barely spoke this episode, yet is body language and facial expressions said everything. I loved watching him watch everything - the boots, the sign language. Can't wait for the prison break when it comes. Sadly, I think something bad is coming for Marva and/or Bix and that will be the catalyst for pushing Cassian into full rebel mode.

Microblading is a type of semi-permanent tattoo, and the quality depends on the skill of aesthetician performing the work. You can also still fill them in with a pencil or powder for a more dramatic look after microblading if you desire. No idea if Rebs is just filling in natural brows, has had them microbladed or both. I actually think her brows looked nice and nothing out of the ordinary other than being precise and polished.

Completely agree. I am astounded at how good Trevor looked last night compared to week one! He has really stepped it up, and I give credit to Emma and his attitude for the improvement. Contrast how much better Trevor and Jordin have gotten compare to Vinny. I know he isn't a dancer, but he looks almost as bad now as he did in his first dance. No growth. We are getting to the point where I feel we are in for a "shock elimination" next week because Vinny is staying past his expiration date. Tonight was the first time I really felt that I could see that Daniel cannot hear the music. His movements were pretty jerky in some spots. I don't care though because I am astounded at how good he is without hearing anything! I can't believe I'm saying it, but I love Gabby. She is so funny. I would rather see this ringer win than Charli. My actual favorites are Wayne and Shangela. I absolutely loved the Michael Buble performance with the dancers. I love when Derek dances, and this lived up to the hype. I absolutely loved the circular walk when he windmilled Haley over his head, and the line of dancers all dancing together. Just great. I was disappointed Michael was sitting at the already over crowded judges table rather than singing the whole night, but I'll take this. Now excuse me, I'm off to download that album.

I was referring more to the fact that they had a bonfire on Halloween and less about the s'mores, but still, interesting that they originated with the Girls Scouts, more proof that it's a camping treat.

You are putting me in mind of the movie "Meet Me in St. Louis" where the kids have a giant bonfire in the street on Halloween. Still, even in that movie, the housekeeper is making a giant cake, not s'mores! You are my kind of person with your marshmallow description! I also like to set mine completely on fire and then when it's good and charred, it goes on the graham and partially melts the chocolate and then and only then is it edible! And the proportions were off in this challenge - mainly because they made ganache instead of using a square of chocolate. Even if they had cut those marshmallows in half the ratio of marshmallow to chocolate would still be off because the chocolate was just a thin smear on the biscuit.

I know for sure Prue said it at least once. I was also annoyed. Not as annoyed as I was hearing Paul say "tack-o", but still........

Same! I greatly prefer the Jumbo Jet Puffed Kraft marshmallows over a fancy homemade which are sometimes too wet and giggly and resembling meringue (which I hate). Plus, I like my mallow almost black, and a homemade is not going to stand up to that kind of torching! And regarding the chocolate component, last summer I found reese's break apart squares that were just like a Hershey Bar but peanut butter cup. Delicious! But S'mores to me are a summer treat eaten when camping, not a halloween food! This whole technical was stupid. I would consider it the worst except, you know, tacos...... I kind of love Sandro. He always makes something I want to eat, and he looked sexy with his wings and guyliner ;-p Speaking of guyliner, Janusz was hilarious for going as Noel. Loved the boots.

I didn't mean what was he doing on Niamos, I meant what was he doing in that bathroom when he had the shower running to conceal whatever he was doing.

My personal favorite was Cassian's beach holiday get up. I would wear that, and I am a 50 yo woman. I cannot deny that his shirtless bathroom scene wasn't nice to look at either ;-p Also, what was he doing there??? Guess I was distracted by the pecs........ I literally yelled out loud when I saw him come from behind the wall and choke him. I cannot wait! But what a sham - six years for basically looking around in a suspicious manner! No trial - just six years for basically doing nothing! Still, he might be safer in prison than with the empire looking for him and Vel now turning hit woman with him as her target..... I kind of loved when she went off in that meeting, and her co-worker got demoted. I feel like I see her turning on the empire more than Karn. I think the deeper she digs the more corruption she will find in the Empire. And what a catch she would be for the rebellion. Smart, fierce and tenacious. I thought the scene between Cassian and his mom was so wonderful. When he said "I would worry all the time" and she said "that's just love" I cried. She just summarized being a parent. For me, one of the most emotional scenes in any star wars show or movie. I absolutely love Fiona Shaw here. Cane in one hand and a gun in the other. That fighting spirit is the reason the Empire eventually fails. The argument between Luthen and Mon Mothma was great. I felt it was basically piss or get off the pot time for him, and she's not ready to come out of the shadows yet. I wonder if Dedra's digging is going to lead her to either of these characters? This show is jut killing it for me. I really enjoy all these show (well, not Boba Fett until Mando showed up), but this one is hitting the emotional beats and characterizations better even if it's been a slow burn. I love it.