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The hairstyles on this show have been bothering me too, but mostly because they look too modern and too precise to be home cut. And judging from Catholic school class photos around that time like here and here, some young men wore their hair covering their ears, some did not. I think they definitely needed to have more volume in their hair if not covering their ears. You know, parting it way to the side with a big long bang combed over. That seemed to be the most common style back then everywhere, even in public school in my class photo that year:

Don't any of these people have any common sense? Who thinks they're going to be up for a great time in the sack after a huge restaurant meal?

Sorry, double post 5 minutes later? How did that happen?

I found this episode boring too. I fell asleep for the last 5 minutes. I also found her reactions out of proportion to what she was discovering, although I've complained about others doing that in previous seasons as well. I didn't read that this was the second part of the previous season. Everything I read says it's season 11 with only 4 episodes - the fewest they've ever had. Sadly, this show is a shell of its former self.

I'm sure the producers knew it would create drama for Shelly to be tossed into a trip with her old BF. They deliberately didn't tell her that was going to happen beforehand, but I'm sure they arranged it. But yeah, it's all fakery. Like Sabrina just happens to hear from Lowell that they're all in Florida and has to rush down. It probably was more like she heard it from the producer, who asked her to come down. (Eyeroll).

Just be aware that dermatologists, like the one quoted in this article in Allure, do not recommend using Ponds as a night moisturizer, only a cleanser, because the high concentration of soap and mineral oil in it will dry out the skin over the long term. The doctor quoted also made mention of the fact that cold creams do not have active ingredients for improving skin like ceramides, peptides, retinol and hyaluronic acid. Those things really work, they're not just a gimmick. I personally think my skin looks younger now than it did 15 years ago! Crows feet are GONE as is any crepey skin under the eyes. I was also starting to see pucker wrinkles in my upper lip, which are also gone now too.

I was one of those posting about that point in another thread. People don't realize that the more exercise they do the hungrier they get, so they often make the mistake of eating more, which either holds them back from losing weight or makes them gain weight.

Several sites I consulted said they were officially banned in 1985: https://www.google.com/search?q=clackers banned in 1985&cad=h

Here's an interesting factoid about this episode. "The Chess Forum" is a real chess shop as featured on the show, only it's on Thompson St. in Greenwich Village, near Washington Square Park, not in Harlem. In fact, most of the outdoor scenes on this show are done in either the East or West Village. I'm pretty sure the courthouse in this episode was the Supreme Court on Centre Street in Lower Manhattan.

They're all loving the cold and snow now, but how are they going to feel in about 10 years? Wishing for a warmer climate is my guess. People don't see this coming! Says me who lives in New England so knows from Winters.

How about click clacks? Those were banned in the 80s as unsafe.

I grew up in the Bronx in the '60s/'70s so of course everything was a little different from the rest of the world. We always had school cafeterias, sometimes with pretty decent food, especially for back then. You know, stuff that was actually cooked fresh. That's where I first had PB and J sandwiches, macaroni and cheese and Sloppy Joes as I didn't get those at home growing up with an Italian American mom. My favorite was Chili-Mac, kind of like Cincinnati Chili, complete with what we used to affectionately call "mystery meat". We also got a variation of the military's favorite dish at the time, "Chipped Beef on Toast", affectionately called "shit on a shingle". In elementary school I mostly brought my lunch because it was worth your life to go to the cafeteria. Don't get me started on growing up in a rough neighborhood. In my later years I became a class lunch monitor and was able to eat in the classroom. My husband, who grew up in Northern Manhattan, attended a very rough school and was allowed to eat his lunch in the band practice room with other fearful band members. For me, Jr. High was even rougher than elementary school, but the food was good there and thanks to a very militaristic shouty guy with a megaphone that I firmly believe the cafeteria guy in "Back to the Future" was based on, I was able to eat on the "well behaved" side of the cafeteria, where we were somewhat protected. But don't go over that yellow line or you took your life in your hands, almost literally! We were allowed to leave the building for lunch but we were on our own and had to be back before the bell rang or we'd literally be locked out of the building as we were always on some sort of perpetual lock-down. I had a homeroom/biology teacher that was so much like Ben Stein it's uncanny, down to the voice and everything. He even used to sing-song people's last names, including mine, just like in "Ferris Beuller's Day Off", with those half-reading glasses while looking at your "Delaney Card" (ugh, remember THOSE with the "demerits"?) Only that was well before the movie even existed. I literally had a "body guard" in Jr. High, a really nice girl that was very tall and big who also loved Donny Osmond so of course we were instant BFFs. She had a relative that worked at Madison Square Garden and got us 6th row tickets to an Osmond Concert in 1972. Being short and vulnerable, she told me that if anyone messed with me to let her know about it. All I had to do was tell some tough thug that she was my BFF and they would leave me alone, LOL. Favorite expressions in 1972 included: "Embarrasssing!" "Sack it up!" "Don't be such a spaz" "Yo mama!" "Gimme five" "Duuuuuh" By the time I went to high school, I was fortunate enough to make it into the Bronx HS of Science, the original "Big Bang Theory" high school, which meant that every cafeteria table was "the nerd table" and I did not fear for my life. By that time I was mostly going out to delis for my lunch as there was a little Italian American neighborhood within walking distance with good pizza and heroes. Rachael Ray jokes around that she was always made fun of for her school lunches, like sardine sandwiches and stinky cheeses. Well I got that a lot too for the same reasons, growing up with an Italian American mom. Except my mom made a concerted effort to sometimes give me more "American" food, like bologna sandwiches, deviled ham, tuna fish salad with mayo., etc. always with a fruit and a "Baggie" filled with Fritos, pretzels or Lays. Sometimes I got Heinz Gherkins or a Thermos filled with Campbell's soup or homemade "Pasta Fazool", LOL. My allowance kept me in baseball card gum, candy necklaces, 3 Musketeers or Snickers bars, rod pretzels, egg creams and lime rickeys at the local candy store. Later on it had to include Tiger Beat, 16 magazine, etc. I used to walk the extra distance to the "good" magazine stand that got all the teen mags and got them early. I still have a collection of them. It was right next to an old fashioned bagel bakery, where you could watch the bagels boiling in big vats through the window. And the smell...... Yeah, I had a colorful childhood!

I just spoke to my BFF about this show and we both confessed to having crushes on Ray, despite thinking he should have a little more of a NY accent. She and I are natives, hence the nitpick. She works at NYU which is close to where some of the scenes are filmed in this. Both of us are suspending disbelief at how fast they whip around the city. They'd need a helicopter to accomplish some of those trips so quickly. Even the subway isn't that fast.

I agree. Today pet medical bills can be very expensive and people are more willing to want to do whatever it takes to keep their pet alive so pet insurance is a must for anyone with a dog or cat. What surprised me is that Bobby seemed to have no problem pushing back on the amount he was comfortable spending on Henry but when it comes to other things like Danielle's personal grooming he caves like a total wuss.

I know! That no one cares enough to demand an answer or investigation. I would think the stories coming out about the circumstances surrounding her disappearance would be suspicious enough to warrant someone somewhere looking into it more closely. If a guy has a fight or is on the outs with his wife then she disappears and there are rumors of his temper swirling around, he automatically becomes a suspect of something and the authorities watch and tail him. This guy gets away with it because of his power and money, that's what I think. If one day I just disappeared you'd better believe the cops would be grilling my husband six ways silly and put him on a person of interest list.

Not to defend atheists because I'm not one, but the usual response to this is that the burden of proof falls on the side that believes in the existence of an entity whose existence cannot be proven. There is no need to prove that something unprovable does not exist. It's not only impossible, but it's because to them only the provable exists. That's the argument I've heard. And the billions that believe are said to somehow be engaging in a collective delusion based on emotional needs and with regard to miracles are ascribing causes to events where there is no necessary cause and effect relationship, no matter how it may look like there is to someone that wants it to be true. But then again, I'm with you on this.

Jephte looks to me like an immature guy that didn't realize he was playing in the big leagues with fire and got burned. He always has this deer-in-the-headlights look, like his head is spinning that he got himself in this deep with a woman he didn't really love or find all that attractive. Now he doesn't know what to do because if he leaves her with a baby the entire world will think he's a creep. So he stays and pays lip service to the camera about wanting to be the best husband and father (yeah, right, sure). And I don't think Shawniece was not aware that she was entrapping him by having a baby. She took a big risk because she thought he was her best chance, but she will find out that it wasn't worth that risk. I don't for one minute believe that Danielle didn't allow herself to get pregnant because she wanted to "seal the deal" with Bobby in that she knew she could virtually get away with anything with him and have everything her way if she did. I don't think it's any accident that she has started to come off more like a bitch with him since the pregnancy. She knew at that point that she could let "the real her" out and he would be even more unable to rebel against it. Another case of entrapment.

Why isn't the FBI investigating? Is this not their business? I confess I really don't know, but it seems odd to me that we have investigations for everything under the sun but not this, especially after all these people have come forward.

I agree with you but I don't think this is anything that new with Katie. Maybe it's just getting tiresome now as they keep repeating it over and over again. I'm also getting tired of this "they hate her/they love her/they hate her" stuff. I think it's really getting juvenile. A little of that stuff goes a long way. I've said before that I think it sets a mean-spirited tone for the show and I don't think TV shows should be tacitly legitimizing any more mean spiritedness among women than we already have.

I could never use Ponds due to sensitive skin, but I did use another cult classic, Albolene for a long time until I discovered all the newer serums and creams out there to rejuvenate, hydrate, prevent and minimize wrinkles. I use many types and brands and rotate them to get the benefits from all of them. I have used Olay Regenerist with good results and love some of the stuff from Murad too, but I also use Aveeno and Neutrogena products as well as Boots No. 7.

Is any of this ever investigated by the authorities? I admit I don't know much about that with regard to Scientology. There have been more than enough criminal charges made on this show to raise suspicion and put them under a spotlight. Shelly's disappearance is just shocking. Has no one from outside of Scientology tried to find her or at least put pressure on Miscavage to tell what happened to her? We have shows all about trying to find Hitler, for chrissakes, but with this it's crickets. I guess everyone is afraid, but why is this bogus organization allowed to have that much unchecked power?

OooooOOOooooohh, I guess I'm supposed to be impressed, LOL. ;-) She's so wishy-washy it's hard to see her as enthusiastic enough to be a coach of anything.

OK, I guess I'm going to get a reputation as a nitpicker, but in this episode Wendi said the model in the white suit looked like "The Charlie Girl". Unless they've moved the show ahead a year, she was a year too early to know about that because the perfume wasn't released until 1973. I loved some of the references, though. Pamela Sue Martin, Binaca, LOL. And the fashion show, too!

She has clients? That's a new one on me. I only follow this board sporadically so if that's common knowledge, I apologize. So anyway, I get it. All this posting online is to show what a good health coach she supposedly is. She posts all these trendy "healthy" practices to attract clients. All she would have to do to become certified is take some $500 online program and pass a test. Today I guess that's all someone needs to call themselves an "expert".

Skin creams really work. I'd be willing to bet Christine doesn't use them or if she does, not the right ones.