Midnight Cheese

I like Dorinda and Tinsley as friends. They seem to have fun and have a cool dynamic. Lu, Ramona, Sonja and B carry are each an intoxicating, individuated combo of crazy crackpot liar that even fun escapades curdle way too often. Their scene was fun. It also showed (much like the tennis scene where Ramona and her gut eventually stomped away because no fair!) that Tins is a quiet jock. You need so much core stability to climb free-hanging rope ladders, and Tinsley climbed pretty vertically, with less swing than Dorinda. Those trapeze artists are unbelievably fit! That man flew up the ladder so quickly. Thanks for pointing out how that circus has cleaned up how it treats animals, Hunter Hunted.

Totally agree. It seemed obvious she knew so her season four whatwhatwhat? at LuAnn’s setup in Morocco re Mario and other women was pretty LOL. As was her vow renewal at 17 years. It seems all that changed was Mario fatiguing for real in terms of staying married. She filed but he was beyond done and forced her hand. Neither are strong people. That Players Bar, Walking Dead of the Upper East Side was scarier than the Star Wars bar. Seeing all those slack-bodied scummy gramps thinking they have game scarred me. LADIES YOU CAN DO BETTER.

Every word of this, mah friend. Oh, yeah. Mario was eye-boning women in front of Ramonster during season one. He’s slung a lot of dick to other women during their marriage. I mean, theoretically she didn’t deserve that but.....

HA! Oh no.... I’m going to use “you look like you’d be good at curling” as a burn from now on. “Is he in shape?” “Sure. For curling or something.” ...and you’re not wrong. It looks like Topper’s cardio is taking off his tie at 6 and pouring himself a double, and that Scott’s arm days consist of putting craft beer and fancy pretzels into his WF cart.

Bethenny may have had valuable things to say but I would never be hectored by her or anyone else on this show about relationships because they are all hypocrites and failures and should crack their ancient asses for trying to school Tinsley. Beth has never had a decent relationship, has cheated, has engaged in custody-wrangling shenanigans, spews misery, can’t stick with therapy, thinks she farts margarita mix (maybe) and shits wisdom (nah) and is apparently calling her ex-lover’s widow his “ex-wife.” Legs to stand on? -10. LuAnn and Ramona both tried to ignore the um, vigorous, and less than discreet, serial infidelity of their exes. All the women, who independent...sit down idiots. Negative a billion there even without referencing pirates, balheddit Tom, Ramona dry-humping Harry in a bar this winter (ooh, maybe she got a crotch lobster or crab for free!), and Ramona’s getting foob-flushed over that red scarf moron. Sonja ho’d herself out of the money I mean man she loved. Pathetic. Her She’s A DYKE shit towards Barbara is pathetic. She has her negative net worth in terms of legs to stand on. Barbara should’ve shut her trap. Dorinda can’t get over Richard or get real about John. STFU about relationships, Doris, and get some goddamned therapy. There is nothing cute, charming, honest, acceptable, or Real Talk about ANY of these heifers not talking with but picking at, mocking, playing dumb and otherwise acting like cackling while their faces are crackling shit-beasts to Tinsley over her man. And they are acting in this instance like shitty junior high bizitches, and like they never learned decency, and thus AFAIC are way too old for this shit. Like Murtaugh in “Lethal Weapon” too old for that shit. I hated that scene and I also believe Tins needs to ghost Scott. (And her mother.)

Yes - I can’t quite believe she didn’t vote, didn’t Carole have an I Voted sticker on during the relevant 2016 election episode?

She talked about anal on the show and made a hind tit joke that was actually self-aware regarding the show dynamics. The women driving this were c-nty beyond belief. F-cking garbage monsters.

I love Coco, may she live for years and years. What a sweet pup. I felt nothing for Beth when she was crying over Dennis’s cards and pictures. I don’t get her anymore on this tip, and I initially truly sympathized for her loss and the awkwardness of her posture of being “with” a straight-up married man. The floral shop Ovendo is gorgeous beyond belief. The scene showed how stunted and old-lady Sonja and Ramona are. It’s got not a damned thing to do with chronological age. The florist is their peer but she’s pretty, normal, and not fucknuts crazy! Watching Sonja faux-scold (fold?) Ramona for her faux-ignorance about what “sparkling” means was maddening. One senses these idiots have always been old. Can’t you imagine them arguing why it’s unfair to retire slurs, or why it’s unfair for there to be a global expectation to tip 20%? All y’all know it’s true. Tins may be stunted but damn if she isn’t, by FAR, the most honest, self-aware and decent cast member. She has a good heart. Fuck Beth of the trail of charred relationships getting all het and truth-telly. No, ma’am. Heal thyself, skinny bitch. Also: what’s wrong with Beth that she can’t see a better, SINGLE MAN like Russ as the way to go? Dude is smoking, wifeless, and seems successful. Good lordt. She is INSANE to think she can come down on Tinsley.

I felt that Beth was in a poor position, and sympathized with how hard it would be to mourn a love of your life as an outsider of sorts to your beloved’s publicly acknowledged, legitimate life. So I kind of feel you, Rap. However, I also don’t see where or how Jill could have privately or publicly told Beth to stay away; Beth is quick, vicious, complains fast and furiously about any perceived slights on social media, and had already called one of her kids for backup during a Reunion show. It’s not like the funeral was or could have been scheduled a ways out, when Jill or someone else might have thought of making that request, knowing that B is gonna B (the photo of her Grinch-face sobbing in full, perfect view of the photographers, is really pathetic. It’s sad that so many people were not surprised at her behavior. Maybe a bunch of viewers are being unfair to B; maybe she just lived down to expectation; maybe neither. I wouldn’t even see that picture as I do now but for that therapy bit. Damn.) I also don’t see Jill as contemptible. She’s not actually at this point “campaigning” as the mourning widow, or is she? I just feel really uncomfortable with Bethenny’s claim he may have killed himself over her, the idea he’s giving her love notes from the great beyond...I mean, Jesus on a Triscuit. How cruel and tacky even for an on-screen bucket pisser! (My criticisms last summer were due to my overall disdain for women/wives, because real talk please, who build pretty businesses like interior design firms on the kind of money Dennis’s afforded her, courtesy of his usurious, should be illegal, business practices. Its a sick joke. But I digress!)

The only saving grace is of course Richard. “Asbestos was the name of his pit bull...”

First of all, I read “One Fish...” to my kid often. Love it. But!! Guys! Goise! (Dorit voice). Sonja’s historical Morgan House is again up for rent at $32k. I had no idea it has 5.5 baths. https://streeteasy.com/rental/2288991

Can one of our beautiful real estate mavens please tell me what Bluestone Manor might sell for? I didn’t realize it was a Stanford White project.

I love you! I’m sitting at the bar because I know this doesn’t merit a two top butttttttttt I don’t hate Barb the Builder or her Belly Button that much. Totally agree that BBBB is an outer boroughs represent! casting choice. I mean, she’s never going to be as refined as I love my silicone breasticles Ramona, but who is? Who is??? Ramona is like Deeda Blair and Bill the Cat had a baby. IJS. Can we poll who thinks Sonja got a little misty-shoplifty in the Morgan manor? Jeez. I can’t tell. I also have to assume Dorinda was being super shady but she seemed genuine in her THs...I didn’t see the Snidely Whiplash but...yeah. I can’t believe Beth suggested Dennis killed himself over her. I mean, I saw it, I heard it, she said it, but I can’t believe it. I wonder if Dennis’s daughter is still pals with Beth. I love Miss Tinsley.

I miss Sue, too. I hope Sufe Bradshaw makes some kind of appearance- she’s just amazing.

Straight truth. I’m so disappointed. I guessed at the end of season 4, I think, that the writers might try and wrap up the series with Selina as Tom James’s wife, as he ascends to POTUS and creates the world’s most unhappy FLOTUS (heh). My hand to all deities, that would have been much more satisfying than this, and I think Mandel and the writers have aced themselves out of better things, are wasting the surprising JLD and Hugh Laurie chemistry, and are burying this beautiful show.

I can relate to what you’re writing, ChitChat, and I don’t mean to discount life experiences. Lu, Beth and Dorinda seem extra-extra to me in less trying circumstances (not trying to get into the Dennis thing, but still). I don’t think the “Forever I’m 21 no 31 no 39 and holding!” thing is working for these ladies and I’m ride or die for RHNY, even the ones I can’t stand...

I mean this with actual compassion- every cast member excepting Ramona (aged out, so she’s got to be post menopause and post any hormonal, behavioral explanations) and Tinsley (and she is actually at the right age for peri if a touch young so it’s a little less likely) is at the age to be in perimenopause, when symptoms and difficulties are most intense. Does anyone else wonder if that accentuates the mania that Beth, Lu, Dorinda exhibit? Please don’t come at me with “not all women in their 40s and 50s” - mood issues, sleeplessness, bad physical symptoms aren’t anything to be ashamed of and aren’t anyone’s fault, if this isn’t a midlife woman’s experience bully for you, because extremely common hormonal shifts in women aged 45-55 are only rare in a group like this who play along with the idea that for sure a man asks a woman in her 60s to have a baby with him (wink wink Ramona). I'm just saying, and it’s not a criticism (except for the fact that they can afford help! Help besides snorting or drinking yourself to feeling better.) The women are extra nuts this season with much less provocation.

How does Ramona’s nose look extra Picasso-y in the red shirt THs? I...LuAnn. Oh my. Her walking out of Bluestone Manor very much alive, shows me something wonderful: Dorinda can change and confront her grief and her dissatisfaction with John and any substance problems because the lady has IMMENSE toughness. The self-control Dorin showed in not fully flipping out at LuAnn is stunning.

Very true. And best I know, only Barbara has had a very recent spotlight feature in the New York Times for her business accomplishments. (Barbara’s pic was the primary, large picture on the delivered, paper copy of the Times that Sunday): https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/01/realestate/the-boss-youre-looking-at-her-7-women-in-the-building-business.html Ramona should shut the fuck up, but that’s of course true for every day of the week ending in Y. She’s an actual thief - people who “accidentally” take dresses and costumes get arrested every day.

Tins and Topper (ugh) met as peers of a type at Lawrenceville, and he was sprung. She’s never lied and claimed she has personal Standard Oil lineage, for what it’s worth. And please forgive me! - I cannot see mention of the Fanjuls without dropping this in: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2001/02/floridas-fanjuls-200102 They are the scum of the motherfucking Earth. Including Nico’s mother, who should be shoved down a flight of stairs. Including fashion-press ho and dolt Emilia, who was a wannabe Tins during the 2000s. We can’t all win Powerball, but we’d each win a hell of a lot of money betting that the Fanjuls have paid out a lot of money to quiet other women beaten by Nico. Tinsley was a mess and still needs help, I think, but he beat the hell out of her. No fucking way he did that once and never before and never again. Since his profession was given as “studying for a series 7” for a smooth ten years, I do hope he’s passed. Somehow. I love Tabitha Simmons shoes. And Dale is a rotten mother. I’m never here for Ramona but that burn on Bethenny killed me! And the cretin she was set up with...no ma’am. Newp. We must as a collective declare that fool unfuckable.

Denise, like the apparent vast majority of unmarried 40 and up women, should’ve loaded her pockets and walked into the Pacific! (From her paid-off beachfront Malibu home). Sorry, I kid, kid. She seems thrilled, she’s hilarious, she seems like a good parent, and she’s enjoying her .sex life. I will grant that Aaron has an unfortunate and unmistakable Lifetime Movie Channel aura... prayer circle around Denise. I would love to see Billy Porter comment on PK’s fashion. Mine eyes. Rinna, Teddi, Dorit and Kyle are so mean and dim.

Am I alone (all of you: YES) when I say I don’t think Ramona looks good for her age anymore? She looks like she got gangbanged by a Nordstrom Rack, her nose is Pangea before the split, and I can hear her eyelids sighing, fuck this, every time some undertipped lash technician approaches her face with the glue. Ah well. Even if Barbara blessed taking a lot of expensive catered food to Dorinda, Ramona was still very Frank and Estelle Costanza. She took back her wine like it was a marble rye. Déclassé!

In terms of drugs, judgments, and post-party gaffes by a face-tweaked idiot, does anyone here think Ramona just is, and hasn’t been hitting Adderall for 15 years, plus coke at parties and borrowed sleeping pills and downers off and on? Because I don’t. She didn’t say what she said as an actual critique of Dennis’s pretrial analytical skills or issues with prescriptions, the Sackler family, or the pain perplex. Ramona said this because she’s a fucking trash bitch, stealing crustaceans in her cold-shoulder top. She was miffed that Barb showed pretty persuasively that she, Ramona, lied about LuAnn being tossed from one particular party (and why lie about that? LuAnn had been a mess, why lie and add these cooked-up falsehoods?), she was nervous because she didn’t slay at the party and it was evident a fair number of the party guests besides the Hos don’t like Ramona, so she went back to her mausoleum and lashed out like the snatchasaurus she is. It’s how she do, in this, her hundredth year on this glorious planet.

So he both would and he wouldn’t be stupid for “being on drugs?” And that turns on speculation about an autopsy? Well, okay.

Ramona pretends she’s sorry: https://pagesix.com/2019/03/21/ramona-singer-apologizes-to-bethenny-frankel-for-dennis-shields-comments/ I wish one of Dennis’s kids would beat the shit out of her. No jury would convict.