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https://apple.news/APsmw4mTBSFeYsfqQsSVXWw hollywood reporter it really sounds ss if it was a completely joyful and positive experience for everyone making the show. The actors all want more, although it seems unlikely. This is a wow, too.

Just to be clear, i was trying to say country music became popular because of the two radio shows. Guthrie was a leftist and Rogers the Christian right. The right has gone off the rails, but it was always an element of country music.

back during the depression Woody Guthrie and Roy Rogers had competing radio shows and populatized the style of music. Loosely speaking, the ‘folk song army’ can and do claim descent from Woody Guthrie, including Cash. My point. Which I forgot to add, is that both lineages are part of country music, from the beginning.

You are right I missed the fifteens. The actress is close to 40. However see below: https://screenrant.com/true-detective-timeline-all-seasons-years-cases-overlap/ apparently the end of season 1 is in 2012 and Cohle says he is in Alaska 2002 to 2010, if i have that right. So if he says he saw a vision in the latter part of the first season timeline,?and we assume that meant Travis was dead, this is all still in Navarros adulthood, she may have to have been playing older than her actor’s years. You do have to be 21 to start the academy to be a trooper, btw. https://dps.alaska.gov/ast/recruit/qualifications Season 4 shows us the date, dec 17, 2023, on the screen before we see what happens just before the tsalal incident( twist and shout/microwave popcorn. ) Idon’t temember when Cohle says this, but I don’t think it matters or is a ‘plothole’ by any stretch. At best it would be a minor continuity error that doesn’t change anything.

Nov 18 to Jan 23 https://www.alaska.org/advice/shortest-day-in-alaska “Even though residents of Utqiagvik, the northernmost town in Alaska, won't see the sun for 67 days come winter, they enjoy the midnight sun all summer - over 80 days of uninterrupted daylight”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/21/dukes-hazzard-actor-john-schneider-biden-execution

Just because you are in a vision does not mean you are dead, esp with this lot. Navarro is around 40. Depending on alaskan law, of course, she could have been a trooper before 1995. At least around then.

I didn’t watch true detective before this and probably won’t watch the two middle seasons. I’m not hugely interested in police procedures and long ago had watched enough serial killer procedurals. Yes, I see they are changed, but they didn’t actually make me care. I would have liked it more if I’d seen it week by week, and seen it with someone who was interested in talking about it. It seemed very much like something I’d seen before, one way or another. Maybe, should I ever watch it again, I will feel differently about it, maybe not.

We do see her walk out alone, no house, car. But we didn’t see her fall, kept clothes on.

The police station was in the old dental building and grandma was gone at one point, to Fairbanks, to the dentist. Mining town, will get smaller now, I imagine. i would guess that Clarke told Annie stuff but never thought she would destroy the work they were doing. i think it I watch this again I will assume Navarro lives. She could have made preparations and Rose could help. I think Rose is a hell of a fixer. It just occurred to ne, fanfiction, Navarro visits Rust.

There is an element of native legend to it, it makes a poetic sense. I think the tongue falls (sic) to that part. A native tongue. It just isn’t a linear story.

Of course the story had flaws, but most of the details you mention were not the main story. Most of the complaints are things that make sense or are justifiable in story. They are set up for the main story. The main story is in the present time. Also I don’t think there was enough science to pass judgements on, and I’m an old SF buff. i can suspend disbelief. Julia did despair of peace, Navarro had wheeler and later Clarke’s deaths to reconcile.

Someone told Kate. Clarke is a good bet. She called Hank and paid him well, but he lost the money, to move Annie away from the cave.

It is symbolic, Annie’s story is told. She discovered what happened at Tsalal and now, so does the world. It doesn’t actually matter who put it there, and this is a story that has a small supernatural edge. Not all questions have answers.

I think the details of the mytery were covered. Certainly I’ve looked over this forum and most of the problems with the story seem to be based more in a general dissatisfaction with the story that was told, and a wish to justify their dissatisfaction. It is, of course, okay not to like something without it being flawed. This story has more of the things I like in a story, and makes me want more to watch, and this was not true of the first season. I loved the crazy sound of the wind in Tsalal, a reminder of one of the Dyatolov theories, where people were driven out into the snow by the sound of the wind in the mountains driving them mad. I was once trapped shoveling a balcony (the door closed and locked) and had to beat a window open with the end of my shovel. I thought I was going to die, and I related to Danvers being trapped int he freezer. I liked that the ‘king in yellow’ story and spiral really had nothing whatsoever to do with what was going on, and I also might get a spiral representing the monster of the ice caves. Danver’s trying to peel the orange in one go and leaving the spiral…..I assume they will not find Navarro’s body because Rose will have laid her to rest with Julia. I assume that the scientists, who had spent a decade of their lives devoted to the pursuit of this world changing dna—by the way, ouroboros, time as a flat circle, the ice snake spiral—were crazy enough to attack Annie. Delighted that the clothes were folded by the women, and that they could have put them on and left, if they wanted. Danvers has been self destructive throughout, but Navarro in this episode gets her to listen to what Holden says, “I see you” and it relatably is what Danver’s needs, to remember that she needs and can be a better person. It brings her arc around. She is passive, particularly noticeable in this episode, letting Navarro take the lead. Letting Navarro make the hard decisions, do the hard things, get the hard truths. Avoiding responsibility, but when Navarro walks into the ice, she has to become herself. Navarro, as Leah tells her, spends the show straddling her two sides, without committing, but she takes a side in the episode. I like some moments, like Danvers stepping back and letting Navarro take the lead when talking to the women, and letting Navarro decide what should be done. I liked the threat the women made as a group. I like that the past leaves an indelible mark on the future. I liked Pete lying awake in bed, and I wonder what happens to him. I liked Rose, the historian who cleans up the mess afterwards. It is bittersweet that the scientists could, in fact, have changed the world. Just a few more years, perhaps. I will watch the directors next work. . The spiral monster, the ouroboros, is time’s flat circle.

It is established earlier that all of the scientists were thete for the duration.

The actor who played Hank said he (hank)had it, he apparently dropped it at Tsalal to mess with people. Boy, people have to survive a lot. monster in the ceiling! In a spiral! cleaning ladies for the win!

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I think the explanation is that the vampires were demons that could inhabit the shells of the humans once the souls were gone. Not all demons are equal. We did kind of see this throughout the series. Not that this makes a whole lot of sense, either, of course. Perhaps they were forced into the shape of their human form. I think there may have been an implication that Spike the person may also have been a better person than Liam, or at least had a stronger sense of self. I’m guessing.

In actual fairness Spike, when he didn’t have a soul, still did participate meaningfully in social interactions, appeared to love and have empathy, although somewhat twisted. He didn’t realize he wanted a soul when he went to fight for it, but he wanted to be a better person. Compare this to Angel, who was utterly horrible when he didn‘T have a soul, only wanting to hurt and control people. At the time I wanted Buffy and Angel together, but reasonably Spike was presented as the better individual. I really wanted Buffy with a human.

Someone with the power of a god, preferring to be a housewife isn’t a really modern, timely idea. I hope, anyway. Maybe she will be the executive and Darrin will stay at home, fielding weird relatives. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the original, but it was rooted in some series 1950s tropes. They would have to play with those. I wonder if they can get Kate McKinnon for Samantha? Actually, can we do it as a spinoff of the movie “Barbie”?.

Yes, I would place money on the first season being fantastic to watch in once a week installments, over time, and i enjoyed it while I was watching it, but when it was over it left a flat aftertaste. It does lean into the local atmosphere, as does the current show. The two men always have incredible chemistry and are watchable. At the end, though, I wasn’t sure that anyone had changed or grown, or if they had, that i understood why that happened. I get that, when you look into the abyss, the abyss looks back at you. Then you go to your friend’s house and live in the guest room until you die of liver failure? Write the abyss a poem, bake it cookies, do something with it. (Do we think Rose is Rust’s mother, by the way? She is baking and cooking for the abyss, someone has to do it).

And yet I watched the first season after this started and I don’t know why Harrelson’s character valued his family and, while McConaughey (may have misspelled)?was watchable, he was kind of one note to me. I’m really bored by the traumatized hunter of serial killers and my eyes glazed over. I don’t carry much with me but I bet I am never going to forget the Priors.

Yeah, i get that you don’t like it and it isn’t what you want. It isn’t far from the first season, though, but so far the character notes are richer and the people are drawn better. It is certainly a story where several of the characters and moments will be more memorable than the mystery and I’m okay with that. It isn’t a linear story.

Really? The first season actors are always strangely compelling, I mean that, but I don’t remember it being focused on investigating the fairly simple, if horrific, macguffin that let the two leads drive around the state. I also remember a lot of personal drama unrelated to the mystery. But it was buddy cop version, two men. For all of the importance Harrelson put on family, we didn’t learn a lot about his family.