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Airris is exhausting. I'm so over him. He's allllll talk and zero action. Boring.

^^^yep this!^^ Sobyn is so damn dumb that she doesn't know the meaning of the words she tries to use. I suspect she is just trying to parrot what Kody/ her family says to her, but doesn't get the wording quite right. I've said it before...I'd like to dislike Sobyn for the stupid stuff she says (and does), but she doesn't seem wholey capable of even understanding her own words (and actions)

Night all!!!

"I'm sorry. I feel embarrassed when i get emotional" lololololololololololololol

Oooo...Kidney learned him a new word...Assuage....very classy!!

As always...."if people have a problem with me then they are being led astray"

Exactly. Christine sought resolution. And found it in leaving Kidney. That sooo pisses Kidney & Sobyn off 'cause they never even considered Christine had the option of "resolution".

Have a mentioned lately how much i hate kidney?! Ug. Just...just...ug.

Casting oneself in the role of victim is so dysfunctional. There can be no resilution if you have decided you are being victimized.

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I believe Meri always saw bringing Robyn into the marriage was to even up against Christine/jenelle battle. It didn't work out the way she hoped...but she held on to the bitter end to see if it would.

It's been a consistent story that Meri's always been a stone cold b!tch. I wish there was a glimmer of insight from her about how her personality affected family relationships.

"They were so young"...oh shutup. Lots of people marry young. That's not an excuse.

Sobyn's "oh he told you about that" feels pretty contrived, as though they've (sobyn and kidney) have talked through their "storylines" ahead of time.

Here we go!

Sad truth is Liz thinks she is standing up for herself...but she's just part of this abusive mess

Ed and Liz are so so sooooooo dysfunctional. Ed is a passive aggressive narc and Liz has SERIOUS self esteem issues. This is not entertaining. Watching an abusive relationship play out is soul sucking.

Wouldn't it be fantastic if the program could continue soley as "surviving sister wives" and follow Christine, Jenell and Meri (if she leaves)? Absolutely just cut out Robyn/Kody. I would love it if in a couple of years from now we were all discussing things and saying "remember that guy they were married to? What was his name again? Something like "liver" or "kidney" or something, right?"

I don't know how actually complicated Kody's relationship are. In every single relationship he has, he puts himself above and before the other person's needs/desires/goals, etc. 100% of the time, his relationships are unfairly balanced to his favor. Some of his kids seem to just roll their eyes and accept him for his limited contributions. Some kids seem to try to push back on him and point out how unfair he is in his interactions. Some either through frustration or quiet reservation just simply disengage. But NONE have an emotionally healthy relationship with him. That doesn't seem very complicated. Kody is a simple man. There seems nothing deep or complicated about him. But he is exhausting. Dear LORD is he exhausting.

So well said!! I do think the fame/income from the show changed the dynamic of the family as much (or more?) as adding a new wife. It's not just that the family finally had the extra money to allow Sobyn to take a more traditional stay at home mom role either. It's also that Sobyn seemed so very interested in money in general. There is no other way to explain the ridiculous size of her house and her employment of nannies. From the start Sobyn seemed more engaged with the financial security of her new family than she ever was with personal relationships with family members. (Honestly she doesn't even seem that interested in Kidney.) So they ended up with such a huge family divide. On one side, those who fought to hold their family together during the hard times, and Robyn who stepped into a more financially sound situation. In typical Kidney fashion, he was more than happy to leave the hardships behind along with the wives and children, and move onto the new phase of his life. I'm sure he believes the TLC money and minor fame was long overdue to him. He was happy to finally move onto a lifestyle he felt derserving of. Robyn just happened to be the wife there at the time. So he moved on with her.

Ed: I'm not mad you took the promotion. Also Ed: yeah i gave you a $13,000 engagement ring and organized TWO engagement parties for us, but it's presumptuous for you to assume I'm somehow ready to commit to a marriage. Where did you get that crazy idea from? He is such an exhausting passive aggressive prick. Ug. Just say your mad she accepted the "promotion".

I gotta say I think Jovi and Yara are perfectly suited for one another. They both seem to put a lot of importance on very unimportant things like "image" and....well I got nothing else... I think they hold themselves in very high esteem. They have that in common. And since neither seems to have any other interests, hobbies, quirks, talents or personality...well then that's a lot to have in common then. They can be as boring in Europe as they are in the US. Why would it matter where they lived?

But the thing is ... He DID choose. He married Jenny. That was his choice. The problem is he absolutely feels no responsibility to the consequences of his choice. (I think some cultures- both family and regional- really struggle with the this sort of thing. Instead of dealing with real choices/consequences, they place as much emphasis on "intent" as they do on "action". Which makes it impossible to reslove anything. Sumit seems fine to linger in unresolved (to him "unresolvable") conflict. American culture is much more direct and resolution focused.)

^^^^^^^ Bravo!!!! When visiting my grandparents growing up, they would insist we take a family photo while seated on their davenport.

I'm been thinking this after watching this episode two two times: Polygamy is perfect breeding ground for narcissism. Kody is a classic narcissist who pits one wife against another to manipulate his agenda (triangulation anyone?) So it's not that Kody is a crappy husband who favors Robyn...nooooo....it's somehow Robyn's fault she is favored. You heard Kody rant and rave all the time about how "unfair" the family is to Robyn. What a victim she is because she is perceived as "the favorite". Robyn certainly buys into that story hook, line and sinker. And the other wives tip toe around it. They whisper but are afraid to say "favorite" Thats all such an abusive classis ploy. To say the other wives are against Robyn and Kody has to protect her. But Christine's conflict isn't with Robyn. It's with Kody. She isn't mad that Robyn is Kody's favorite wife. She is mad her polygamist husband is sheirking the rules of having a favorite wife. It's not about Robyn. It's about Kody. So you get these weird outburst. Robyn is lock andoaded ready to fight back since Kody been telling her the other wives are coming at her. She hears things that aren't being said. She misunderstands context. And classically, Robyn and the other wives can't resolve all this conflict because it's not really between them and they don't have any ownership to it. Christines conflict is with Kody. Kody needs to stop all this nonsense and deal direclty with the consequence of HIS actions and choices. And this: When Kody saids he favors Robyn's kids because they "communicate" with him (god, he was so weird the way he kept saying that)...he means he favors the cause they say what he wants/expects to hear. According to him, Christine doesn't "communicate" well. She said she wants a divorce and is leaving. Kody didn't want to hear it. He claims now he was "blindsided". Again classic narcissism; he hears only what helps/promotes/benefits him. The living situation at Robyn's house must be pure hell.