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Oh I think it was her intent to be the QUEEN BEE but as things are falling apart, she is bitter and just wants to WIN. ("Win" what? I'm not sure she even knows. Having Kody all to yourself with no income streams from the other wives isn't a WIN in anyones mind.)

1) i agree with many of the other posts about Meri. To summarize my thoughts: i don't hate Meri. She's been in a "no win" situation since she married Kody. Polygamy does not favor women; especially women who cannot bare children. I imagine she always struggle to try to find her worth in that dysfunction. I don't condone her actions but i think they were the actions of someone desperate. When she brought Robyn in the family she did it to try to gain some power by teaming up with Robyn. It backfired badly. And then her attempts to leave the family backfired badly too by being devastatingly catfished. That woman has been through hell. She looks and acts out like it too. 2) robyn has overplayed her hand. I think she wanted to be the QUEEN BEE, not the ONLY BEE in the hive. Damn, that is a tough life she has set up for herself.

I think you hit the nail on the head. There is no way this family could have survived longterm. Kody only wanted disciples/ followers. Everything was fine when the children were young and willing to sit and listen to his "family meetings" and Sunday preachings. He has no need or interest in relationships with grown fully formed adults who have their own views and opinions

I CAN NOT even PRETEND to be surprised they aren't vaxed. Dear LORD they are horrible people.

Oh I think Kim had this new relationship lined up before she started talking about divorce. Wasn't there a real estate guy she was very flirty with? She's not ever gonna be on her own, responsible for herself. She got her next meal ticket locked down before letting go of the last one.

Yeah, this is uncomfortable to watch. I put all the blame on these parents. They are cringey to the 10th degree. The fact that Kim's only explanation of the credit card situation is that she's above explaining anything. That is problematic. If she had the use of her grown @ss son's cc she was crossing boundaries and she was the problem. The father is just, just, just so creepy in such a weird way. I've seen this non-blinking, non-connected gaze in other very, very conservative families. I do think Olivia is in a no win situation. I think, she is a damaged soul trying her best. When the whole world around you is crazy, you look like the crazy one. I have some experience in this as my inlaw family is a crazy conservative dysfunctional closed system. I can see this family's "black and white" approach to life. You are either IN the family or you are OUT. If you talk to Olivia you are OUT. It's not uncommon for young adults to try to spread their wings then go back to the closed family (circling their wagons against the outside). I mean it's hard to be a young adult and trying to be yourself without your family helping is even harder. So you comply and get back in line with the family. Olivia speaks as someone who has done therapy. I think her boundaries seem reasonable. When i was in a similar position with my hubby as she is now with Ethan (regarding contact with his family), i absolutely encouraged him to maintain contact with them even if i was considered "poison". It was H's therapist who encouraged stronger no contact boundaries and helped us understand the family's disapproval of me was really just a disapproval of my husband growing up and making his own decisions outside parental control. (Truthfully, my inlaws never really bothered to get to know me. We only had a handful of interactions.) Soooo Kim is dating! Lol. Didn't see that one coming (i'm being very sarcastic)- lololololol. ;)

I suppose some jurisdictions do things differently, but where i live a BENCH WARRANT exactly means no one will ever come knocking at your door looking for you. It's not an ACTIVE ARREST WARRANT. It will show up on your record, however, if you come in contact with the law; ie if you are stopped for speeding the officier may choose to arrest you on the outstanding bench warrant

I once went on a snorkling adventure while vacationing in Jamaica. It was probably no more than a dozen people on the boat including a friend group of 5 or so friends. One of them was carrying on and on...it was too windy....their hair! Gasp...they were afraid of fish...the flippers/ fins were to difficult too use...etc... Her friends were buzzing around like bees trying to help her...make her more comfortable...changing the subject when something was said she didn't like. IT WAS EXHAUSTING. She ruined the trip for EVERYONE (including the staff). Shannon instantly reminds me of those horrible few hours I spent in Jamaica. The woman EXHAUSTS me the minute she pops up my t.v. and has since the first scene she was in. Also, yeah...she was bloated and hungover at the pumpkin patch. I don't know if she's an alcoholic (her bf sure looks like one), but she got to have at least a problem with alcohol. She looked like a mess. Finally, i think i could like Gina if i was able to hear anything she says. Her vocal fry is like nails on chalkboard.

Well that was a whole lot of nuttin' tonight. Ah well...off to bed. Nite all!

She definitely has her mother's same strange blank look

Right? He doesn't even try to hide it a little. "I am completely against anyone having their ears pierced except Robyn and her children"... uhm... awkward....

I'm pretty sure i remember Christine piercing Kody in the kidney ;)

Wait...why was Sobyn butting in on the kids group chat? Why is now speaking for her grown @ss children??

Oh wait...breaking news...Sobbin and kids are...VICTIMS!

^^^ yep ^^^ I think how we can know Kidney is an actual narcissist is that it's all about CONTROL. He doesn't get "hurt" he gets ANGRY. He's not mouring an emotional loss. He is pissed about his loss of CONTROL.

Sooo..is Sobyn lying or just really, really stupid? I think it's an important question. I really don't think she's bright enough to know how manipulating her words/actions really are.

Ahhhh.... that's it...Kidney is simply too full of sunshine! Yep.

This is what narcissistic injury looks/ sounds like

Gino/jasmine HAVE to be fake, right? Like is it possible to be that dysfunctional. If they are for real then they really deserve each other. Ug. Next.

Lolol. I'm dying!

Right? Yep, apparently pure luck they caught that "cold call" on camera ;)

I think this is that fame chasing influencer thing. It's so weird to me. They constantly say "everyone wants to be meeeeee" "i'm sooooo classy" "look at meeeee" as they change clothes while moving from one room to the next. Naw honey. I'm too busy living my own interesting life to wish i was living your boring fake life. I'll just wear the same clothesnfor the ENTIRE day- gasp! And not document my EVERY move - gasp! I think so too. I would be unhappy also if a coworker didn't have to put in a full shift.

Omg. 1) shane is a prick 2) Heather is a pretentious bore. Snooze. 3) Gina won't sell anything talking to clients with that damn vocal fry 4) shannon is ridiculous. I've never seen anyone with less of a personality 5) eddie needs to mind his own business. 6)Tamara is doing all she can to hold onto that orange 7) there is nothing redeemable or interesting about this season

1) Nope, you can't just wander into a restaurant kitchen. Nope. Absolutely not. I can't imagine how many health code violations they caused. Keep you fake hair, poorly glued on lashes and nails out of the kitchen please. Ug. (Also don't wander into operating rooms when doctors are working...or manufacturing floors during a production shift...or anyone's place of business...just don't ) 2) i get it....you are a very IMPORTANT influencer (well "important" and "influencer" seem like mutually exclusive terms...). But honestly SEVEN bags for THREE days sure makes it seem like you have wayyyy tooo much "influencing" to do to have accepted a social invite. If you can't afford to take anytime whatsoever off of your job, then you aren't going to be a good houseguest.

Gina is just one of those typically boring sorority types. Her favorite color is likely beige. Which is fine. For her. And she is happy in her beige bubble where the most important issues revolve around the length of someones bangs. She probably has glanced at the outside world swirling in colors and textures and feels sorry for (superior to?) those stuck out in the "chaos". She doesn't seem like an evil person; just a really, really boring person. I hope she finds a cul-de-sac and a hubby in a golf polo to build her dreams around because this marriage is not a good fit for her.