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They're showing Walker: Texas Ranger now per Mr. Milz.

No she doesn't wear a red printed calico to the Trenwith Christmas in the book. I think it's apple green and lilac. And it was formal enough that she wears it to a ball in book 2 or 3.

I had to do some looking around, but this 1784 portrait of The Princess Royal, Princess Augusta and Princess Elizabeth has a "messy" look. It was probably shorter on the top and sides and curled. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Three_Eldest_Princesses,_Charlotte,_Princess_Royal,_Augusta_and_Elizabeth_-_Gainsborough_1784.jpg

I don't think Graham addressed it in the book, but historically, actresses were of "low moral character" and were essentially regarded the same as prostitutes. In a way, Mark "married down" like Ross did. But what's interesting is the persistent theme of obsession of a woman by a man (or men) and the down fall of that man: Clemmow and Jinny in Book 1 and Mark and Keren in book 2.

The book made it very clear George fancied Elizabeth, especially when Elizabeth played the harp. Warleggan's eyes were glued to her. I actually like the "stagey" productions and that the majority of the actors/actresses had stage backgrounds because they were able to get their point across with less dramatically pained looks and wretched vocal tricks, imo. Even in the late 70s with Brideshead and into the 80s with Jewel in the Crown, the productions were less stagey, but the acting still was. So for me, the acting was tighter with a great emphasis on dialogue and the delivery of that dialogue rather than far away gazes and knitted eyebrows.

I didn't think Demelza's dress was fancy at all, in comparison to Verity's Elizabeth's and Ruth's. Demelza's dress looked like printed calico and very plainly cut, with little to no embellishments such as ruffles, smocking, etc. So it looked more like a house dress than something to wear to a Christmas dinner with the family. The dresses of the others looked like silk (I doubt it was lawn or linen due to it being winter. ) There's an old counting game which is similar to Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Sailor, Rich man, Poor Man, Beggar, Thief. This counting game goes "Silk, Satin, Calico (or Cotton), Rags" , the descending order of expensive to, well, less than cheap. Calico is on the cheap end.

I haven't watched the P15 Keren either, but in the books, Keren wasn't only an outsider, she also had "outsider" attitudes. I remember reading that Keren would buy cooked food for meals rather than cook the meals herself. That and other things gave her the reputation of being a sloppy housewife who wastefully spent all of Mark's hard earned money

I agree and considering that most of the actors/actresses were stage actors/actresses (most of the cast of I Claudius were current or former members of the RSC), it makes sense. I agree and considering that most of the actors/actresses were stage actors/actresses (most of the cast of I Claudius were current or former members of the RSC), it makes sense. Regarding Caroline....I have to wonder why Warleggan never made a play for her hand in marriage.

I recall reading that either Caroline calling a doctor to tend to her dog or getting the fish bone stuck in her throat was based on a real event told to Winston Graham by a local physician.

That was another axe Ruth had to grind with Demelza: John was attracted to Demelza. So not only did this hussy "steal" Ross from her, now she's making eyes at her husband!

After watching Episode 4 of P15, I think P75 did a better job with Verity and Demelza by sticking to the book. Book Verity was sickened with her heartbreak and tired out by caring for Charles that she was at the point of exhaustion and had to rest in order to regain her strength. P75 brought this to life.

I think much of Ruth Treneglos' comments arose from hurt pride: that Ross brushed off attempts at her mama's matchmaking and married Demelza instead. If Ross ended up marrying, say, Ann Elliot from Austen's Persuasion or Emma Woodhouse, I don't think she would have been as horrid because , as a baronet's daughter, Ann is socially higher and Emma would be a social peer. But the fact that Ross choose a miner's daughter over her is unforgivably, unforgivable! Editing to add....I think the men take it better because one of their class marrying a kitchen wench satisfies or appeals to some type of sexual fantasy *wink wink nudge nudge*. So yeah, on the surface it's "How dare Ross snub his nose at convention! What a disgrace" but inside (and it doesn't have to be that deep inside) it's "Atta boy Ross! Now you don't have to pay for it! Woof Woof Hoot Hoot!"

That's because you aren't a Judge Judge litigant! Look at the number of L.O.S.E.R.S. and the ladies who love them we've seen over the years. It's bad enough these women give them money, buy them cars, pay their child support, support their lazy butts while they stay at home watching tv all day, but they even get into fistfights over them!

Good point! You would be able to see a school of fish from that angle (especially in the days when fish were abundant.) In a way, it's odd that there are no 'professional' fishermen in that area. But then in an earlier episode, Ross and Demelza went to Sawle (or was it Truro?) and got fish, so maybe no one bothered to fish. Or a servant (probably a Trenwith servant because I don't see Jud doing any work and I do see Verity being kind enough) brought their overnight bags to and fro for them.

Pity. I really wanted them to be faithful to the book with the Verity-Demelza relationship. Because book Demelza, clearly did not want Verity to stay with them. And warmed up to her only after Verity had the talk. Then they were BFFs. What I liked in the book was the part where Verity takes Demelza shopping, introducing D. to her dressmaker and choosing the fabrics and style for the dress, which she wore at Christmas and at the Bodrugan's. I think it was more effective way to show the initial gentrification of Demelza than P15's teaching her to dance.......

It looked like a bay or inlet. Most likely the boats would come in at a certain angle or spot in order to avoid rocks, sand bars, etc. So the women are probably watching that shipping lane area. And all were armed with baskets presumably in order to get the first pickings when the boats did arrive. This was the era of sailing vessels, so I could have imagined the anticipation when the vessels were spotted and were sailing in. I could also imagine the growing frustration if the vessels had to beat into the harbor/landing spot because they would see the boats zig-zagging their way in rather than coming directly into harbor the way motorized vessels do (because motorized vessels can sail directly into the wind, sailing vessels cannot). I wonder how they got around the Act of Swans of 1482

It's so weird to me that Charles Nelson Reilly sits there smoking a pipe on tv.

Well, most likely, their "attractive" part isn't the one that contains their brains.

Skyway, that's true. Francis fully accepts Demelza in the later books due to her kindness (she also went over to Trenwith and nursed Elizabeth and himself when they had the illness) and her loyalty to the family. But at the Christmas dinner, he tells Ross that it didn't matter to him if Demelza was from Stippy Stappy Lane or an heiress. Again, it's one of those annoying things that crops up because P15 is marketed as more faithful to the books than P75. Thanks for the warning about Demelza's clothing. In the books, she becomes a sort of fashion plate initially under Verity's guidance and then under her own. there's a passage I recall from the second book that when Demelza saw Verity's pretty underclothing she resolved never to have the utilitarian but ugly ones she currently wore. Out of curiosity, does P15 Demelza take to wearing a kerchief like she does in the books and P75?

Notice too, the freeloaders didn't decline the invitation to the meal with "No thank you, we've already had our dinner." It was like "All right! Free eats for us to-night! Woo-hoo" I

The chick throwing the insults was Ruth Treneglos nee Teague. Her mother was trying to set her up with Ross in episode 1 (the scene where they go to Nampara and comment about farming being a hobby).

Demelza doesn't know which string to pluck, but she has an innate musical talent that's been strengthened by "playing" the spinnet in the library whenever she had a chance. She would hit the keys and pick out tunes and would make up tunes to lyrics of existing songs. The scene where she and Verity are moving the spinnet into the sitting room was so Demelza could play the spinnet, not so she could learn how to dance. As attica wrote, she had prior knowledge of how notes sound, so plucking a random string gave her a note or a key for her song.

I loved the Celia scenes too, but she's still a cow. (Moooooooo!) I'm sorry to say it but I'm developing sympathy for Kenneth!

That was left out of this series: Demelza's natural intelligence. IIRC, in the book, Demelza also made up new tunes to lyrics of existing songs. This is one bit of character development that I hoped P15 kept because it helps to make sense of Demelza's ability to become Mistress Poldark of Nampara. The other thing P15 left out was Francis telling Ross Demelza's background didn't matter to him.

After reading what was cut by Masterpiece, the scene makes more sense (and is more in line with the book). I do wish they spend more time with the Verity-Demelza BFF storyline.