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Yes I noticed that. Plus Briana has worked as an ED nurse and most likely has seen deaths from pulmonary embolisms. You don't mess around with that. Didn't Vicki say that Briana said she thought she had a blood clot in her lungs.

Any shortness of breath is utmost important to get quick help. All nurses know this. It is the ABC of emergency care as in airway, breathing, and circulation, in that order. I agree WireWrap that we don't have all the facts but it smells off to me. Just a gut instinct. But I certainly wouldn't put it past Vicki to exaggerate for sympathy.

Agree that it is crazy that a nurse does not call 911 when she thinks she has a PE. Something funky is going on with Briana's story and her reason for moving back to the OC. I think there is some shenanigans going on to garner sympathy for Vicki. I mean, how strange was it that Ryan's ex was on the scene too. It smells funny, all of it. I'm not saying Briana was not sick, but I question whether we are getting the truth of the situation. I don't wish to see Meghan giving herself a shot again. I get it and yes I know, you are uber proud of yourself. They might as well use a dummy for Jim. Meghan might actually get more emotion out of a dummy.

This whole thing has been very calculated. This family has mastered their public image. I don't believe anything they do is innocent. I felt the scene with Kris saying Taylor's Mom is nice and some other kind words was just to be used as an out if things didn't work as planned. That way they could use it as a saving grace in a worst case scenario or even to show that they never have any ill motives. Well BS to that. All they care about is publicity in regards to making money and their ever growing egos. I swear these people cannot be stopped. And I don't believe TS is innocent either but they are still the ones who keep dragging her back into controversy.

I believe that is Jezebel.

I agree but I was wondering if she even has a legal foot to stand on. This could get even messier.

Didn't Kim say last night that it isn't illegal to tape one without knowledge in NY. There are reports TS is considering suing for taping without consent. What states were involved if anyone knows and how does that work? Thanks for any answers.

I can't get over how all of this family with their multiple plastic surgeries are looking on film. When you see a still pic, it isn't so bad, but holy cow, when you see them in real time trying to animate, it is frightening. These are not attractive people. Add in the lack of personality and education and it is such an odd mix. When one is at the point where you struggle to carry on a basic conversation, well it is time to reevaluate your life choices. The lack of intelligence boggles my mind. I guess this is what flies in the world we live in today, but it is so devoid of any true worth, it makes me sad. When Khole was getting her makeup done and continually making duck lip faces, I had to look away. So strange. As far as the TS mess, she is not perfect, true, but she isn't the one obsessed with this weird dynamic that Kanye seems to have about her. Plus this whole family constantly plays victim, so they lose me on that complaint.

Kim accusing Taylor of playing the victim is really manipulative. It puts Taylor in a no win situation. If she responds, she is accused of playing the victim again, and if she stays quiet, her opinion is unheard.

See, this is me too. I find the whole intern thing creepy. But I admit I am influenced by that lawsuit which put Sonja on a whole other level for me. I kind of look at her like a grifter now, but admit she can be pretty entertaining on the show.

I'm glad Jeff is back to doing flips mostly. Is it my imagination or has Zoila's English gotten worse?

I agree with this. She even had to one up Jules on her eating disorder. It's like, oh yeah you have an eating disorder, well I get sick if I'm even around someone with an eating disorder, so there. All roads lead back to Bethenny.

Just wanted to add that I have a ton of sympathy for Erin's father. I think he is denial about his daughter but whatever gets him through the day. It's a miracle he has been able to go on with his life with some normalcy. I can't even imagine what he has been through emotionally. Just the thought that a child you have loved and raised could wipe out most of her own family is beyond my comprehension. Those poor little boys.

Erin Caffey has got a lot of attention for her crime. I saw her on Dr. Phil also. I agree, she is awful and most likely a sociopath of the highest order. I thought she came off as very calculating. She really is careful not to give answers to direct questions or to let herself get painted into a corner with her replies. Plus that soft voice and sheepish demeanor. Really creepy.

I have always felt that both Thomas and Kathryn wanted the pregnancies for different reasons. They both knew full well what they were doing. I have never bought this "in a moment of passion" line that they both spew.

I know. I was responding to the fact that he was fired in the first place. What an idiot JFP is that she can't judge talent in the slightest. Her picker is way off.

What? Fired Travis. I was just thinking today that he is actually a bright spot on the show. The guy is a natural. He comes across well on screen. Jeebus.

I'm beginning to think the writers are giving the viewers the middle finger with these storylines. I am a loyal viewer who hangs in there, waiting for a payoff. Problem is there is never any payoff anymore, nor are there any characters worth rooting for.

So I thought Heather said in one of the previous show's talking heads that she wouldn't be talking about the cost of the house and furnishings. Hmmm, that didn't last long. She just can't help herself. She is the type of person I would love to see trying to live off of a five figure salary for say a year. Now that would be entertaining. Dont care one iota about Meghan and her IVF. I mute her when she is on. Don't care about new girl either As much as Vicki annoys Briana, she sure has made herself dependent on Vicki for her lifestyle. I am sorry she is having health issues and I truly wonder what is going on with her immune system but I don't need her to be an ipso facto housewife.

If I heard correctly, it sounded like she had an incision site where they removed some lymph nodes that became infected. What I wasn't sure about is if she then had a second surgery for debridement purposes of the infection site. Anyway she ended up on antibiotics also. Apparently the oral antibiotics weren't cutting it, hence the picc line for IV antibiotics.

Yeah but Kim is hardly someone in a good place. She continues to have raging addiction issues along with chaos in her life. She is hardly in control of her life. She is a mess. I am not talking so much about financial power as I am about emotional maturity and self esteem issues. That is what makes people winners in life. Sure you can go through life dependent upon manipulation to fulfill your needs but it is hollow and makes you still dependent on others.

Their is a power inequity between Thomas and Kathryn. This is why she is so frustrated. But she can only control herself and for some reason she doesn't seem to have learned this reality in life. She would feel so much better about herself if she worked on herself as in education, job, her passions in life, etc. People are always at their weakest when they are coming from a place of victimhood. Whether fair or not, that is just life. She has the power to turn it around though and that is the beauty of it. Yes, she may have to dig deep within herself but thats how one also builds self esteem. All the money being dumped at ones feet will never give her that. It is really that simple in my mind.

Kylie really needs to get a handle on her poor responses. Buisiness 101 - the customer is always right. Not good PR for her to be whining that she is sick of people coming after her company and none of it is her fault. Customers are giving her their hard earned dollars and expect a product in return. Huh, imagine that concept. This is a multimillionaire 18 year old who doesn't have a clue about how the real world works. All she knows is that everyone is picking on poor Kylie. This family is ridiculous.

I have never been so grossed out as I was by the self-blinding woman and that is saying a lot as I'm a nurse and have seen many things. But for some reason, looking at that lady with the serous bloody liquid oozing out of her eye was just so bad. Of all the times Dr. Phil has needed to give someone his personalized handkerchief, this was it. I had to quit watching because I swear every time the camera cut to her, there was the blood running down her face. I just wanted to scream, for Gods sake, somebody give that woman a Kleenex. How the heck does the medical profession even begin to treat someone with this obsession?

Yes, I agree with this too. Love her or hate her, she will leave a huge hole in the show if she leaves. She would be pretty hard to replace from the standpoint of what she brings, her home, business, charities, wealth, etc.