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Fred Goldman wrote a book and he trashed Ron's mother in it. Yes, they were estranged and she probably was a bad mom, but she is also the reason Ron lived and his attack on her was unnecessary. He let OJ's book get published once he got the rights to the profits. He sued the Brown family for millions. I don't know that he holds that much higher ground than everyone else involved in the case.

Just finished At the Water's Edge by Sara Gruen for book club. We all loved it, which never happens. Most of us even liked it better than Water for Elephants.

June Carter Cash's parents in Walk the Line. I thought it was interesting how strangers would tell June how disappointed her parents must be in her when they were shown to be welcoming to all and a model of unconditional love.

I never really saw Chili and Sylvia as being all that close. Were we supposed to think they were great friends? Or friends at all? I saw them as co-workers who were relatively nice to each other because they had to be as partners, and they could barely pull that off at times.

Our church spent at least four summers sending workers to a small city in Mississippi simply because it was devastated by Katrina, yet forgotten.

Has anyone watched Marcia's interview with Oprah? You can find it on youtube. It really turned me off her. It's hard to pin down why. Mr. CRS gave her the side-eye for her huge advance for her book, especially considering how much she railed against Kato for the possibility he might write a book. I thought she seemed kinda giggly and focused on how the trial affected her with not much thought to Ron and Nicole. Now, to be fair, I didn't read her book (I didn't read any of them because I didn't like anyone making money off this) and Oprah is by far one of the worst interviewers in history. It's possible that she comes across well when someone asks her decent questions.

I took one logic class almost 30 years ago, but I seem to recall that I first analyze whether I can trust the person who is talking before I analyze what he is saying. If the person who tells me evidence #1 is rock solid is then caught in a lie because he actually planted evidence #1, I can logically ignore anything he has to say about evidence #2 and #3. I don't have to accept the "Yes, I was lying about that, but I am not lying about this so you have to believe this!" argument. Give me enough detectives on the stand who try it, and the DA has a problem with the case.

Interesting piece of trivia IMO that wouldn't make people rush to their DVR's but I am fascinated by this kind of stuff: The Supreme Court case that upheld the internment camps almost wasn't unanimous. One judge was planning a dissent, but the rest thought it had to unanimous for the good of the country's morale. They had heard another case addressing an issue the judge in question felt very strongly about and then basically extorted him into dropping the dissent for their votes on his issue. I really wish he had written that dissent.

I feel the same way, vibeology. In my living room, I can appreciate and discuss the distinction between pinning the crime on someone versus adding evidence to goose the chances your prime suspect is convicted. In the juror box, if that was the explanation I was given for some strange evidence, I would err on the side of tossing all of it. And, frankly, I would hope all jurors would do the same.

It is also possible that his children believe in the Faye Resnick/drug dealer angle and he doesn't want to confess and lose them as adults.

When he started whining at the end about how it wasn't fair, I really wanted Frank to tell him that a 12 year unarmed kid was dead because he was reaching for his wallet. That wasn't fair. Then I realized that line would probably be a bridge too far for this episode, which might have been the most liberal I have ever seen. I kept wondering how the writers got this one past Tom and the executives worried about their demographics. I liked almost all of it.

I would guess only the ones he could afford.

It was not the smartest thing to say, but Dick's reaction really highlighted the whole thing. If he had said, "Well, he's certainly exciting to watch tonight!" it would have been fine. Instead he came across as petulant IMO, as if he can't participate in a conversation unless everyone acknowledges that he alone is the best.

I accept that he did it, but the contradicting evidence does throw me. The argument is made there could be no conspiracy because the police didn't know that night whether OJ had an alibi, but then defenders talk about blood stains that didn't show up until weeks later. I probably need to read one of the books to know what evidence was found when.

I usually loved Dick Button, but I do remember one time when he was covering a Brian Boitano routine. He was doing fine until his cohort gushed that Brian might be the best US men's skater ever. Let's just say that Dick did not appreciate that! He suddenly stopped talking and then would just monotone, "That was a triple flip" or whatever. His cohort never caught his mistake, just continued talking and seemed surprised a few times that Dick never jumped in again with any sort of enthusiasm. I must admit, seeing that childish reaction colored how I heard him from then on. But he was still lightyears better than Sandra and Peggy.

One of the craziest ones I heard about was a man who was delivering a summons to a police officer for brutality. He met him on the courthouse steps, handed him the paper, and walked away. Twenty minutes later he was arrested for assaulting a police officer, and a whole group of police officers as well as some ADAs signed out witness statements detailing the assault. The man was getting ready to go to jail for a long time because he had been convicted of a prior drug charge and this would have been a repeat felony offense. He finally was able to show the video his family had made of the summons delivery to prove the cop had received the summons. It showed that he handed the paper and walked away, and one witness with the most damning evidence wasn't even facing the two. The state AG had to get involved to get the case dismissed. If not for video, this man would have lost his freedom due to that blue wall of silence. By the way, they met on the courthouse steps because the cop was being sued in another battery case.

Davis case is two separate cases years apart: First case was for the murder of his estranged wife's boyfriend. They also covered the murder of his stepdaughter in that trial, but he wasn't formally charged. The judge had just upped his support payments before the divorce was final, and he was gunning for his wife. Shot her, but she survived. She ran out to the driveway and another car drove past. He paralyzed one of the friends who got out to help. Racehorse Haynes was the celebrated Texas defense attorney, and he made the case all about slut-shaming the estranged wife. Do I need to mention that Cullen had a mistress/girlfriend? No one was outraged that a 12 year old girl just home from Bible Camp was terrorized and slaughtered by her stepfather. No one demonized Racehorse Haynes for trashing the wife. All of Dallas celebrated his acquittal and sneered that the wife was so horrible as to survive. Second case he solicited an undercover officer to murder his ex-wife and the divorce judge who heard their case. Audio tapes of the whole thing, including a staged photo of the judge's dead body and Cullen saying, "Good!" when he saw it. He was acquitted again. Racehorse to the rescue!

Actually, when I was a lawyer I heard all the jokes and comments. Some professions you just expect the generalization. Also, my job was not paid for by the public and did not require me to carry a gun and have the authority to detain/arrest people. I know many wonderful police officers and love the viral stories of their going out of their way to help the public they have sworn to serve, but when a bad police officer is caught being bad and the others say nothing, they should expect to be tarnished with that brush.

T. Cullen Davis trial - he murdered his 12-year old stepdaughter (forced her to the basement and onto her knees before killing her) and then waited for his estranged wife to come home. Shot her and killed her boyfriend. Chased her outside and paralyzed another friend. All survivors identified him. He was acquitted. Then was tried again with a tape on which you could hear him soliciting the murdee of his wife and divorce judge. Acquitted again. At the time he was the wealthiest man ever on trial for murder. John Hill trial and subsequent murder-Book is called Blood and Money. He was a plastic surgeon in Houston whose wealthy wife died mysteriously. He was tried for murder based on withholding medical attention. Mistrial but father-in-law had him killed before the next trial. Father-in-law was never charged.

One of the things I appreciated about this season is that we didn't actually see the murders happen. I am afraid that some of these ideas will require a reenactment of the actual murder. I don't want to see it. Regarding Katrina, they better devote at least part of an episode to the reaction of Houston. National government might have failed, but the mayor and Houstonians really stepped up for their neighbors. Umbelina, I cannot even imagine. So glad your sister survived that horror, and so sorry that you lost her to cancer.

B v S has surpassed $700 million despite the reviews: https://www.yahoo.com/tech/yup-critics-nailed-batman-v-superman-passes-700m-203620321.html

Does anyone know how much OJ's defense cost? I would love to know if he outspent the state's $6 million for his trial.

We watched about an hour of her questioning Kato, and now I am amazed that she won any trials, much less 19 of 20. She treated him badly and got so focused on trying to have a gotcha moment for someone who seemed to be trying to answer truthfully. It was like watching someone kick a puppy. For instance, she made a huge deal about his saying OJ wasn't angry and then saying later he was upset. She acted like he was caught in a whopper of a lie when anyone could understand what he was trying to say. Kato even said, "There is a huge range to 'upset'" but she talked over him. I couldn't figure out why she was trying to hang him out to dry when his testimony was pretty neutral. Then she railed about his having an attorney and maybe wanting to write a book . . . what a hypocrite considering Darden and she wrote books. Of course Kato had an attorney. Anyone in that situation would have been stupid not to hire one. I really cannot stand when Hollywood plays the "you only need an attorney if you are guilty" card; I am furious that a real attorney was going down that same path. I thought Kato moved out quickly and lived with another friend, which cemented his media reputation as permanent house-guest, sofa crasher.

Not to get off-topic, but T. Cullen Davis forced his 12 year old stepdaughter down into the basement and onto her knees before killing her. He then killed his estranged wife's boyfriend and shot his wife (she survived), then chased her outside and paralyzed another friend. He was only tried for the murder of the step daughter. All survivors identified him. The defense focused on his wife's behavior during their separation (they were both dating other people). He was acquitted. This is one of the cases that my law partners would talk about with compliments to the lawyers who got him off, which is why I was so appalled at their outrage against OJ and his dream team. Edited to add: Cullen Davis was charged again with murder for soliciting someone to kill his estranged wife and their divorce attorney, among others. They had tapes of his transaction with an undercover cop. He was acquitted again. If you want to know where Johnny Cochran got his defense plan, read this article about Racehorse Haynes, the Houston lawyer who successfully defended Davis in both his murder trials: http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/how-cullen-davis-beat-the-rap-2/

Then tell the reporters the question is off the table and the interview will end if it is asked. They complain that the jury got sidetracked by the show and forgot about the victims. Well now they can do something about it and choose not to. I am so over it. /end rant