MaryWebGirl

LOL I get that song in my head every time I look at this thread!

They had to spend a lot of time setting up the plotlines for the season, so it mostly focused on Richard. Also in reality Kumail could have been deep into Oscar campaigning and wasn't as available for filming (I think he also has a few different projects lining up). I hope the lack of Dinesh and Gilfoyle isn't a trend, though.

What a great episode, and that musical number was eons better than anything they put together for AS3. I'm a little sick of the choreographed lip synch numbers, but at least this one had decent music and a clever idea. I was honestly surprised Kameron wasn't in the running for winning this week. I thought she did well in the challenge and I loved her runway look. I thought it was so pretty and it was an interesting look to see the muscle queen covered in butterflies. She's had a whole bunch of hit songs, although I probably still couldn't pick her out of a lineup. But what you really need to know her for is her speech at the Women's March this year:

It was up yesterday. It just started after Untucked on VH1.com for me.

Maybe he wanted to genuinely be loved for who he was and be in a real relationship, hence his pursuit of David. Of course that could never happen because he didn't know who he was.

So I think there are is a big narrative parallel between this season and the OJ season, in that both stories are about murderers but they both illuminate a deeper injustice. In the OJ case it was money and celebrity and a frenzied media and racism, but all of that has been covered endlessly since the trial. The injustice with Andrew and his victims was the inherent homophobia hindering so many aspects of the case. That's something this season really helped bring to the forefront and will hopefully be part of the story of these murders from now on. And for a less weighty thought, did they ever explain the wound on Andrew's leg that we saw in the first episode? Also one of the articles mentioned some sort of stomach wound.

I'm hardly an expert, but one trick drag queens use to smooth out the appearance of padding and muscles is wear multiple pairs of thick tights. There are some queens who perform with no tights, but I think they usually just walk around and don't do anything particularly acrobatic.

I was spoiled from the beginning as far as Ben dropping out and Trixie winning (although I think I had heard it was between Trixie and Bebe), so I wasn't totally shocked. It was also anti-climatic to see Ben slay so much knowing she wasn't going to win. I do wonder what would have happened if Ben had stuck around. I think Trixie has been set up as the winner from the beginning due to her mainstream success plus being a World of Wonder darling, but that would have been a harder sale against Ben being so dominant throughout the season.

Interesting. So basically primitive social media.

I have no idea if that was accurate, but it sounds like Andrew didn't like having sex with him and as the decorator picked out a bed where they wouldn't be touching.

Trixie was realllly leaning into the "OMG I suck! I thought I would kill this! I'm having a breakdown!" stuff on social media this last week. Reposting memes, responding to a tweet by Kim Chi that said she was loving Aja and Ben with "I'M FUCKING TRYING OK"--it all just points to an underdog finalist/winner storyline to me. I also think Kennedy should have been in the top two with Trixie. I didn't see a problem with her can, her outfit was my favorite of the looks, and her makeup was amazing.

Not too surprising, but Bob the Drag Queen will be filling in for Katya on the Trixie and Katya Show. I think Trixie and Bob work well together so I'm looking forward to it. http://www.newnownext.com/bob-the-drag-queen-trixie-and-katya-show/02/2018/

Also if they did seek out Andrew and arrest/charge him, that would just wrap Jeff up in more drama with him. He was an officer in the Navy who had to deal with homophobic meatheads for years--I can't imagine he saw Andrew as an actual threat.

I think that's a really interesting point. Maybe it's because, in reverse order, the deaths look more pointless as they go on. It's not unheard of for celebrities to have dangerous stalkers, and Lee Miglin could be seen as someone who was a mark for robbery by a desperate person on the run. It's not justification but it offers some explanation for what happened to them. Jeff and David just...didn't like Andrew. That's all it took. They're all sad but the senselessness with these two is above and beyond.

I liked Ann Rule too, and one thing she and I think this show do well when telling these stories is keep a lot of focus on the victims. I feel like especially the last two episodes Andrew was almost a side character, and our focus was with the Lee and David. It's one thing for a TV show to highlight an interesting, glamorous person like Gianni Versace, but they also showed two fairly average men as the unique humans they were. In the short time we saw Jeff he was shown as smart and interesting. And even with more tertiary characters to the story like Lee's wife and David's dad they are portrayed thoughtfully. An obvious exception is the caretaker at the cemetery, but maybe that was a choice by the show since he wasn't targeted by Andrew, just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Yes! The dreariness made me wonder if German schools are on a different timeline than the US as we started on the first day of school but the weather looked more late fall. And as a sidenote as someone who lived in Seattle for 7 years, the downpours in The Killing always bugged me. It almost never rains like that there, it's just always wet.

I'm fine with Shangela winning, but I wasn't quite as impressed by her as the judges were. She did well with her Mariah, but the part was written really funny and I think any drag queen worth her salt would have killed with it. Also Raven pointed out on Fashion Photo Ruview that the bodysuit was right but Mariah hasn't worn long fringe like that. And I thought the giant ball was genius, but I've never seen an ornament that looked like her red spotted outfit. She was great in the lipsynch and the jumprope was a cute touch, though. Milk should be ashamed of her portrayal of Celine. Talk about a dream character for a drag queen and she just totally blew it. Not one chest thump!

I watched one of the extras on FX and I think it was one of the producers who commented on the fact that when they were filming at the mansion it was jarring to see how central and basically public it is, with hundreds of people wandering by every day.

And now an Oscar for Best Original Screenplay! I had higher hopes for The Big Sick but I think it just lost steam and there were stronger contenders in some of the categories they had a shot at (supporting actress, comedy/musical at the Golden Globes).

I think she was inspired by this Barbie, which came out in 1996. That's pretty solid roller blade territory. I just want to wax poetic about Bendela's talent show number. It was funny, witty, a nod to burlesque, which I consider classically in the same universe as drag, skillful, creative, and incorporated the traditional drag technique of outfit reveals in a cool way. It made all the lipsynchs/high energy dances look tired in comparison, and everyone else was a distant second to me. I swear I'm not a giant Ben fangirl! She just really impressed me.

Sort of a random question, but have royals ever adopted? Like an actual orphan, not a relation from a family member who passed way or something.

We'll see if he does that now that Louis CK is being taken down. They worked together and have the same management. He was even asked about some of the accusations against Louis CK a couple years ago and he declined to talk about it. https://www.thedailybeast.com/louis-cks-powerful-army-of-celebrity-enablers

Will their show get its own forum here?

I want to find out that El was being given math lessons while she was in the lab as it was deemed a "safe" subject that wouldn't make her too rebellious about her circumstances but kept her busy, so she enters the high school as a math genius even though she's behind in everything else.

The one Nancy was wearing was a little more "late model," but I remember wearing claw clips around that time. They were usually more garish and bigger (and from Claire's of course) like these: