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Well I think in most people's world there are degrees of wrong. Within the legal system there is degrees of wrong. Lying and saying someone's hair looks nice is a lesser degree wrong to me than lying and saying get in I'm not drunk, I'll drive you home.

I know this comment will be unpopular - but here goes. I think the entire Duggar family knows what Josh did was wrong - even Josh. And in the end JB & M did something, maybe too little, too late, but they did not ignore it totally. The girls really may think it is 'no big deal' as in it didn't really impact their lives, then or now, and they have truly forgiven Josh. Given all that, during the Kelly interview they were defending themselves and their brother (as in he is not a pedophile), and no matter how articulate one may be, (or in their case, inarticulate) nothing they say will have the same frame of reference to others. I could be reading them wrong and they are doing the whole Stepford daughter thing, but Jill, at least, appeared very genuine. If Michelle is there as a 'say this or that coach' then she sucks, as a mom and a human being. Edited to add that Michelle does suck as a mom.

We are a weight obsessed society. Even calculated BMIs are so general that they can often send the wrong message. There is a whole range between too thin & too fat. Even sizing has changed. For most of my adult life I never broke 100 lbs, years ago I could never find anything in my size, now 'large' in stores like H & M and Forever 21 are what used to be a medium or small. I've seen too many photos of what some of you are calling lollipop heads and it is sad. The fact that the Duggar parents put so much focus on looks, whether it be weight, or effing eye traps pisses me off. They have 4 more girls under Jana, Jinger & Joy, I hope they lighten up by then. Edited to add: No eating disorder here, I'm just tiny and weigh 111 lbs currently.

Ya, huh?!

Oh my. It seems she ruined a perfectly good dress by having a crepe paper shrug sewn onto it.

LOL. When I 1st read this, I read it as gothic, rather than Gothard, and thought "Wait, what did I miss?"

Prob not the best dress choice for Jessa. https://instagram.com/p/6a7st7C069/?tagged=bateskeilenwedding

So did daddy Gil performed the ceremony? That would make having her mom as Matron-of-Honor make more sense. Did Jinger not have time to change after the long drive? https://instagram.com/p/6a3R62qFwP/?tagged=bringingupbates

None that I have seen. I'm interested to know if they went and/or were invited though.

I think they are all there. The were some pics of Jinger driving the big rig & of the boys clothes being packed for the trip.

And unfortunately to many, the Duggars do represent Christianity. A group of people that probably has little exposure to the help that is available outside of their own little community. If the TV special can help to normalize receiving secular help, then I think that is a good thing. RAINN is a reputable organization and will not want the show to include any ambiguous or harmful advice or information.

Humor is the best in tough situations for sure. After my mom was diagnosed and before the disease had progressed a lot, we were packing up their home for their move. Mom and I were moving a couch and we came across a pile of marbles (the stuff you find w/20 grand and great-grand kids) on the floor. I exclaimed "Look Mom, a cure!" We laughed until we almost peed.

When this all happened only 2 adults lived in the home - JB & Michelle. It is just as unfair to the girls to maximize the situation and it's impact as it would be to minimize it.

My mom passed away from Alzheimer's. Her early signs were having 'senior moments' as in forgetting where she was driving to, as well as having moments of being unfamiliar with a very familiar environment. One of the first assessments was having a nurse visit her in her home. The nurse asked her various questions regarding both long term and short term memory, including when and where she was born, how many siblings she has, years married, number of children, phone number, etc. Also mini 'tests' like "I'm going to name four items and I will ask you to repeat them back to me". The nurse asked the answers to the memory tests throughout the assessment. My dad and I were with her during the test. She got some wrong, some right, and actually got a few right at one time and wrong at another. The nurse was there for about 45 minutes. There aren't any definitive tests to differentiate between aging memory, dementia and Alzheimer's. It is when memories issues progress that they will offer a diagnosis. My mom was fine for the most part for many years after her initial assessment. The first restrictions we had to impose were not letting her drive, and eventually not letting her cook, and for the few years before she died, not leaving her alone. We were lucky in that she never forgot who any of us were. Good luck Jyn & Mr Jyn

The TLC article provides a link with some sad statistics. http://www.d2l.org/site/c.4dICIJOkGcISE/b.9292355/k.BC8E/nbspnbspStatistics.htm

During the show, when they did the talking heads, Jill pretty much ran over Derick. I agree the Duggar girls were brought up to stay at home and produce children and not aspire to reach higher, but I don't believe any of them (except Jana maybe) will be total door mats to their husbands. Jill is a fairly confident woman, I see her as sweet but not meek.

I see a lot of eye traps there. The Maxwells should march Jessa in front of their daughters. No need for a trip to the airport.

Why do I feel the need to go to a piano bar in a low cut, high slit, clingy dress now?

I, too, have a potty mouth. To me swears are exclamation points in the beginning and/or middle of a sentence. I very rarely use swears as darts toward someone though. Words can be really hurtful. With that said, I have on more than one occasion, had a very colorful verbal argument.

Happy belated Westiepeach! And just so y'all can plan, my birthday is in January. Should I register at Tiffany's? (that way I won't mess up our ads)

With embarrassment I must confess... we spent our summers at our cottage on a lake. We were barefoot pretty much from June - August. There were four of us kids and my mom kept a bunch a flip-flops and clean shirts in the back of the station wagon because inevitably when she would round us up to go into town at least two of us were still barefoot. Granted we were kids, but we did all kinds of stuff where shoes were warranted in our bare feet.

Ooooh. Are tubal ligation dirty words?!??

I still wasn't sure, so I looked it up too. They do not to mention what was reversed. Is vasectomy a dirty word?

My condolences, as well as birthday wishes for you HappyFC!!

I don't blame JB for Michelle's emotional state. I believe Michelle was just as much, if not more into Gothard. She is following his tenets because she believes in them. I think it is the extreme religious beliefs that messes with her head and also messed with Andrea Yates. What I find remarkable is why these women don't question why, when following these tenets, that more sacrifices are made by the women than the men. If it is all about respecting Jesus' sacrifices why do men have it easier?