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I think she should be the next Bachelorette. She´s one of the prettiest and most gorgeous women to ever be on the Bachelor. I´d say she was similar to Emily, the men would be going nuts over her and not faking it. I was mad at Joey for sending her home, I wanted to see her at least get to home-towns. The only thing wrong with her is the way she talks, she like, says like a lot.

I watched The Housewife and the hustler this morning and then this episode straight after. I´ve never had a more difficult time with an episode... I´m disgusted with the show and all the other housewives (even Sutton, Garcelle and Crystal a little bit) because of the way they bow to, tolerate and/or worship the vile pos that is Erika. Her performance at the white party was monstrous. Everyone who celebrated her singing "it´s expensive to be me" should be ashamed.

She can´t keep it in any longer. She has a massive dark side for sure. Sidney was mean but also out of her mind with paranoia and delusions. I think that gives her a bit of an excuse for the way she behaved but Lea was happy to keep the lies and issues going for no reason and she genuinely smiled when Maria started crying out of frustration. She got enjoyment out of watching someone else get hurt.

These people are almost all so stupid. They keep listening to the ultra-dumb blonde chick(/s) who´s been wrong throughout. And that boxer, he should feel so incredibly embarrassed, as well as everyone who listened to him after the way he passionately defended Dan for no reason. All their ideas at the round table seem to come out of nowhere and make not the slightest bit of sense. Like okay, Kevin is annoying Tamra but is that a good reason for so many to vote for him? What was the point behind it? He´s an actor and they believe he´s such a great one that he´s outsmarting them with some slightly exaggerated facial expressions? Have they not seen Phaedra? And why do they always turn on the one (Larsa) who tried to stop them from voting for someone who turned out to be a faithful? Why aren´t they giving them some credit? Why is the Survivor mastermind Sandra so clueless and boring in every way? I´ve got so many questions... I can´t believe Larsa and her boyfriend are the only ones who are actually a little bit smart. I can´t stand Larsa on Rhom but she´s my favorite on this show (well, after Phaedra). Dan is so obviously the traitor and Phaedra as well.

I have been wondering what happened to the boom-boom room too.

OMG I can see an earlier comment of mine from 4 years ago and it proves that I did watch season 4. How scary that I completely blocked it out, except for episode 1 :/

Thank you. I completely agree! I just did a rewatch of all the series except for season 4 which I had missed for some reason so it was my first time watching that the whole way through. I remembered that I always hated Rachel, I couldn´t stand how every guy kept falling madly in love with her and yet she was disgusting (almost) all the time, I used to follow the discussion while the show was airing and felt completely alone in my opinion of her back then. Season 4 was difficult to watch, and almost boring in a way. Rachel kept making faces, her evilness and sleaze-factor became a joke. I wish she had suffered more. I wouldn´t even compare her to Quinn because Quinn was fun to watch, kind of a humorous villain mega-bitch. Rachel had none of her charms or reasons for doing mean and despicable things. Quinn was redeemed in season 4 until at the very end.

I got a really off vibe about her when she first started appearing on the show as James girlfriend, she wasn´t just dumb, it was more like she lacked all charisma and "life". I think many viewers felt that way at the time, she wasn´t liked but she wasn´t disliked either. James is very much the opposite of that, he´s full of life and has a great on-screen presence about him. Then as time went on I started to notice a huge shift in favor of Rachel/Raquel on boards like this where people are talking about these characters, suddenly she was considered extremely beautiful and so kind, people were quite passionate about it and I started thinking that it must be true and I just sort of believed it, despite the way I had felt about her at first. I was fooled into caring for her, she wasn´t shown doing anything wicked and the others were constantly going on and on about her innocence and beauty. I´m more of the opinion now that she just has a personality disorder and she´s not that beautiful either. ETA: I always enjoyed Britney, she has a big personality that makes up for her faults imo. She gave a lot more to the show than R ever did.

It´s because we expect it from him. She was a fan favorite because she seemed like such a lovely and sweet person compared to the others. There is being dumb (like we all thought she was) and then there´s being so dumb that you get involved in this revolting affair. Sorry, not buying that dumb & kind act anymore and I don´t give her any benefit of the doubt because of her previous relationship or for being "vulnerable" either. It´s an interesting take on the situation, but I just don´t see that it applies here.

I am still totally convinced that Kate and Logan (and Hayden and probably Jacob and a few others) are 100% acting. Every time Kate and Logan kiss it looks so awkward, and nothing like when people who are really attracted to each other kiss. They literally pushed themselves apart after it looked like they were counting to 10 (to make it look like a real and passionate kiss). No nose-bumping while staring into each others eyes, or an extra kiss on the cheek, the neck or the forehead, which usually follows a real make-out session. They simply have no chemistry and they don´t talk about anything except how real their relationship is and how happy they are going forward together etc. No other couple talks that way or ever has on this show. Kate always looks like the cat who caught the canary because her role involves being the most sought after woman on the beach, which is laughably fake and phony. But I´m not going to complain about it, this is gold to snark on but I do feel for Rodney because he won me over. I thought he looked like the beast to Elisa´s beauty, but he is honestly a good guy (so the "beast" would still fit him I guess) and I hope he finds a nice woman outside of the show. I couldn´t take Elisa during her weird meltdown. I don´t like Aaron but I feel sorry for him getting stuck with Genevieve. She has smiled 3 times... it´s freaking me out. I do like Shanea, which is weird, she´s been okay this season and I´m willing to bet that she was mostly acting the role of a mean lunatic when she was on the Bachelor. I was telling my mom about this show the other day, and happened to mention that they all cry a lot and she asked me why they were always crying and I said it´s because they think that the only chance of finding love is on this show, and if it doesn´t happen it never will. It´s a mass delusion of some kind.

Last season on the bachelorette/s there was this guy who claimed to have a dog and my theory was that there was never a dog. I thought it was obvious that that guy was just trolling the show. Anyways, now I´m back with an even more (far-fetched?) conspiracy theory... It´s about Logan and Kate. I am sure that they are both acting, and I have two possible scenarios about how that happened, the first one is what I believe but the second one is probably far more likely. 1) They knew each other and were in an open relationship before BIP. They are just better at scheming and keeping things quiet than the other ones in that situation have been. They were allowed to make-out and do things with others, but at some point they were scheduled to have a brief conversation where they felt an instant connection and just had to drop everything (much better looking partners) for each other. I find it like zero believable that this could happen organically. Kate is so unattractive compared to the rest of the women and her voice is super manly, I will give her that she is probably quite fun and easy going, but in this situation that would not have played such a big part. I get the feeling that this is Kate´s plan, Logan actually has feelings for her from before the show and wants to play his part right, but he came across as a whiny little boy who wasn´t actually fully invested in what he was saying. I agree with Shanae that dumping her for Kate makes NO SENSE. The way he just ignored Sara also comes across as someone who is nervous and trying to follow a plan he is not really 100% sure of. 2) The producers are in cahoots with Logan and Kate on this act they have got going. Maybe they even scripted the whole thing. They are using Logan´s flip-flopping ways to create drama, yet again. Logan and Kate are in on it, to what degree they are really together as a couple is up to question. There could possibly be some others who are in on it too, like Jacob. Even though I hate Shanae I also do think that she is one of the hottest ones there. And slightly likeable. I don´t think she would make a scene over Logan, I don´t think she´s mad enough to make herself look a fool over such a pathetic dude. It almost seemed like everyone was ready for a show down where Shanae would come in attacking, yelling and screaming. But she was totally cool (imo) and saw through this farce.

Lace gets to go back to paradise because this will be an epic moment for the whole show, there are very few people on planet earth this crazy. Not trying to put her down, I mean if she wants to act this way on television she is free to make that choice, at 32 years of age. Rodney and her had been flirty for a couple of days, now he is with a stunning, extremely (imo) out of his league woman who is nice and normal. I feel like this is what I always hope happens on BIP but never does (until now).

But Lace is more ancient in bachelor years, maybe they are going by those.

The completely naked guy from last season was 40, right? I think Michael and Andrew are the only cute guys there. I guess Jacob and Johnny are okay-ish, but that´s about it. But the women are almost all gorgeous (Kira is yuck), even Shaneae is not ugly, no matter how much I want her to be. And Jill is cute in the "loves cats and books" way.

I have to say something about Sergio and Stansbury. I find them to be the most ridiculous couple... I like Caroline Stansbury and I thought Sergio was smoking hot and a really sweet guy. It was nice to see them so in love. But as the show has gone on and watching their wedding storyline, I can´t but help feeling very weird about it. First off, Sergio is soooo ignorant and dumb. His obsession with Caroline is very over the top. It often seems like she isn´t really that into him as a person, she tolerates his stupidity and looks at him like he is an embarrassing child. And in those moments I truly admire her strength, lol, because I have been embarrassed by guys who didn´t say 1/100 of the stupid cringe stuff he comes up with. When I´m watching their scenes I can´t help but wonder if he is under some kind of love spell.

I don´t think he has a dog, it seemed like he was trolling the show. Which, if so, was funny as hell. I missed the start of his conversation with Rachel and was thinking "oh so he has a kid at home that he misses, well then he´s probably not as big of a loser jerk as he´s seemed so far" but then Rachel says "I really understand the way you feel about missing your dog"... and everything they said afterwards was just unreal. I love my pets to the moon and back and if I was on this kind of show I would be talking about them a lot (think Bel from Bachelor NZ season 1, who was all about her cats at home), but that whole scene and his whining afterwards looked like a pretty big and obvious joke. So my money is on him not even having a dog at all. He really did take the story about the illness and the toys too far for it to be believable, imo. And looking back, the stuff he said to Gabby about her being "so goofy" and the ridiculous things he said to all the guys, only make sense in that light. (I mean it´s possible that he´s just that dumb and socially awkward but he never presented himself like that in any other way, so this all being a big joke to him seems most likely imo).

Some people might have thrown him under the bus after getting so hurt by the other two, so I give props to Gabby for not mentioning his name at all to Rachel.

I actually liked Clayton but he was dumb and easily manipulated by whoever kissed him last. Gabby was obviously his #3, far behind Rachel and Susie, but she was dead-set on sleeping with him, it was obvious and he had no way of escape. He was being nice (and stupid) by telling her some love stuff during, but there was no real love connection between them before that. She just really wanted to get him into bed. I don´t think there has even been a woman more excited for a fantasy suite date than her. I think this season may be more fun than the last few bachelorette seasons have been, at least I am hoping. I like Gabby, she is more attractive now than before and the guys are into her personality.

I don´t hate Anna, but I hate people like Neff who are all "she never did anything to me so why shouldn´t I stand by her, help her etc...". They are the enablers of injustice, cruelty, abuse and everything that evil people get away with. The character of Neff is probably the most unpleasant one I have seen on screen in a long time.

Kyle is wrong - like always - about the starsigns. My birthday is august 24th and it is the day the signs change. Or used to change. I read a lot about astrology as a kid and I was so sad about being a virgo instead of a leo (but I´m fine with being a virgo now, it fits my quiet self way better) so I totally remember this. It was a matter of hours really. Star signs are not totally fixed in place and they can be "off" by 1-2 days some years, and I think that in the 21st century virgo has moved from the 24th to the 23rd. Diana is older than me and born in Europe, so it´s pretty safe to say that she heard she was a leo 99% of the time. If she has had a chart done "many many times" by astrologers then why is Kyle claiming to know better?

Sutton probably thought it was either all a setup (which is understandable given Dorit´s history of faking break-ins) or that it wasn´t really as bad as it actually was. But during the scene where Kyle and Sutton were talking I thought I noticed some edit shenanigans because at first Sutton was downplaying the robbery, then it cut to Kyle being shocked about it in a talking-head and then we went back to their discussion and Sutton was talking about something random that she went through that day. I might be remembering this wrong but I´m not sure that there was continuation with the things Sutton was saying. Even if she had been worried sick and super empathetic towards Dorit, she probably would have talked about something else at some point. I just don´t think Sutton is this super-weird, not even on a bad day. But PK´s reaction afterwards was also strange, right? I did not understand what he meant, with the "in my religion we never cancel a good occasion for a bad one" or something to that effect. He was probably in shock though. Overall this episode felt very boring and I was zoning in and out. It has never happened to me before when starting a new season. I am just so OVER Erica. She should be universally hated for various different reason and OFF our screens, but yet again, they are all* acting like she has done nothing wrong and is a great friend. * I mean the witches, not Garcelle and Sutton.

I was wondering when I would see a comment like this one. I can´t stand Dolores either, and after the way she acted on that trip, trying to leave the restaurant with Tre and totally blowing Margaret off I consider her scum and actually worse than Teresa... At least T is brainless and a bonafide lunatic. I have started to like Frank more and more and I think he was a bit taken a back with the way Dolores was acting at the restaurant. He is way to good for her.

I dont mean his intelligent that way. He´s probably average book-smart and he often does better at small conversations than other bachelors, and I think he is way above average at getting women into bed. But he makes crazy decisions and seems to have very little intuition. I think he´s incapable of manipulations, at least from everything we´ve seen so far on the show. He was shocked when Susie confronted him because he hadn´t actually thought that far. He doesn´t think things through at all, or how they´ll effect both him and others. I just can´t help but to feel a bit sorry for him, if he had been guided better through the process he could have had an uplifting easy-going season (despite all the ill timed make-out sessions).

I dont think Clayton was pretending to be anything... he has done nothing but non-stop kissing and fondling of (almost) every woman in touching distance from the start of the season. He hasn´t talked much about getting married or anything deep like that. There have been bachelors pretending to be really morally superior, like Matt and that is much worse imo. Clayton is a doofus but he isn´t a bad guy. I think he thought he was doing a good thing telling them he loved them before sleeping with them. He makes a lot of wrong decisions and should never listen to his gut, or rather, he should always do the opposite of what his gut is telling him. No matter how hard I try I cannot imagine Clayton actually gaslighting anyone (he´s not smart enough) or manipulating things during an argument. He seemed the normal kind of angry and disappointed with the situation. And the context is that it´s happening on a tv show that has this ridiculous formula. He deserves to feel bad but I don´t think he was abusive at all.

I´ve never felt such revulsion while watching the bachelor as I did when Clayton kissed Shenae after she crashed the after party. It was unbearable and nothing could make it make sense. He has so many gorgeous women to make out with, why does he need her too? And should I believe (like I want to) that he was just too dumb to realize how nasty and evil Shanae was to Elizabeth? She was doing it in front of him multiple times... She looks demented, the way she swaggers and glides and oozes evil. At the end when she threw the trophy I honestly wondered if she might be an actress getting paid to play this monster on tv. Because she has hit every possible limit for a "villain/psycho". We´re getting a 2 for 1 special with her. Has that ever happened before? Even if production told him to keep Shanae for good tv he should have been able to figure out that it would backfire on him and make everyone loose respect for him. He should have lost all respect for himself. I wish Genevieve and Jill had walked out on him, but at least Genevieve didn´t smile when she accepted the rose and they were all so bummed out after saying good bye to Elizabeth lol. Never seen that happen before, I think.