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I skipped this episode as every episode is a meltdown in itself, however if they did show that scene with Babs and Jenelle you know they were doing it to remind the viewers how this whole thing started out... Babs being the only true mom to Jace. And I know Jace hears Babs "talk loudly" to Jenelle, etc, and she isn't perfect-- but you know that boy knows why Babs gets upset (for good reasons related to him) versus his biological mom that gets mad for no reason at all.

That pic of Jenelle and her temporary husband (lol) above, did they really pick that as a good pic? He looks weird and crazy, and not remotely in love or good in that pic.

Thanks for sharing, those are beautiful pics.

I agree with all that--good point that she served them, and they didn't really do anything, but not someone that is supposedly assaulting her. When I saw the episode where she was acting like it would be fun to deliver early and in the DR, I was just really bothered about that. She shouldn't have been travelling then anyway--many normal pregnancies can deliver close to the timeframe she was at. And she is also making light of pre-e when it is not a funny or fun thing. It was clear she was excited about delivering early even if that meant she had major complications. ugh.

If she keeps bailing them out she is doing no service to her daughter whatsoever. She might as well hand over a huge chunk of money at this point because this covering their bills is about the same thing given they still run up debt and she just pays it off (she must be or they would not be able to do 3/4 of the things they do and live where they live). I know she is probably trying to act like she is doing this responsibly and for the kids, but clearly by covering all of their expenses they have no issue with running off on their trips and documenting it on instagram. Ugh. Just give them the money Candy, as this is no different if you truly don't care about your daughter and her ability to ever take care of herself. She has a son, Randy, that has done the right thing--so it is ridiculous that she supports Tori and her Hollywood lifestyle, and the amount of kids she chooses to pop out on a whim.

That is exactly what I had been thinking.... clearly the children of Jenelle and Kail will have far more questions than dear Watson. lol

You will never get why she did it the way she wanted because it is different than what you would want to do. I get you don’t like it but she had two simple and harmless celebrations. The second was more about the reception even if she did wear a pretty gown. This is hardly an awful thing. It is just how they wanted to celebrate and clearly it just doesn’t match your tastes. And that is okay because it was for Chelsea and Cole and how they wanted to do it. I didn’t see that either celebration was huge and over the top. And I really doubt their son will ask about how many celebrations they had. I am sure he will be happy to have parents that love each other.

The actor was on battle of the network stars this summer, and he did not do so well in athletic activities. lol. But he seemed very quiet and reserved, which was so interesting. It really shows how his acting abilities play into this role since he is not an over the top kind of guy.

Wow, I am all about a picked up/cleanish house, but I just couldn't reach nearly this far to think Chelsea is this awful just because she has stuff she hasn't picked up in her house each day. Her house definitely does not reach the level of filth or hoarding that causes huge alarms. I also think she worked really hard to find a career she would enjoy--it took her a while but she hung in there, grew up, completed a program, and then started a job she really likes. She keeps her license up, but for now has chosen to be a SAHM, and to be fair MTV is her job--that is why none of them really work. Not that I think that is great for most of them long term, but at least Chelsea does have an avenue to pursue and has stated she is keeping up her license (saw it online somewhere). I just don't see how tough love is necessary for Chelsea at this point.... her dad was very patient with her, eventually saw her through her Adam and school issues, and today she has a happy family and a career she can pursue when she is ready to work outside the home again. She also has savings other teen moms don't, and it appears to me she has her head on straight. JMHO.

I loved this episode and found it completely refreshing. It is clear they really enjoy each other and she is comfortable with him. I love how patient he is as well. I agree with other comments that she was very different in this environment and it was nice to see. Plus since they both work they seemed like real adults. After all of the tm 2 drama this was such a nice change. And it appears Farrah isn’t rushing to have more children which is nice too.

This scene was a little odd given that they normally have Ali out playing tball/softball (not agreeing with this as a good thing--just saying). All of the sudden she has to just sit in her chair and and can't move around at all? Not making light of her condition, just saying it was a little strange that she seemed stuck in her wheelchair all of the sudden, and couldn't participate at all.

This is the episode that pushed my limits so I think it should be the last. Janelle pretending she has 100 plus friends to invite to her wedding when she actually has none. Kail leaving the house in a slut dress for graduation. Leah putting all of that makeup on her kids and especially for a public appearance—awful. They are beautiful without that and they looked like clowns. As for her public speaking it is really bad but I will give her a small ounce of credit for trying again after the first attempt. Thank goodness for Chelsea and Cole.

He is a mess. I felt very badly for his ex girlfriend. That was clear abuse and torture, and I am certain she is not making any of it up. Why would Nathan have agreed to this show? Is he that delusional that he thought he would look good?

Well, I liked King of Queens, but I don't think that translates to this show at all. Even looking at the previews you can tell Leah's character is aimlessly hanging around their house as if she is the new mom. I have nothing against Kevin or Leah, and like them both, so am not necessarily a naysayer--it just feels clear to me that this move is a very off move for many viewers. The show already lacked direction, and I doubt this will help this issue.

I liked the previous actress and I don’t like how they have done this. They basically have Leah’s character roaming around the house replacing the dead wife. Weird. Then the kids as usual appear and disappear. They don’t seem to know what to do with this show.

I never get this either. Although of course I put plenty of effort into being a mom, I don't like to be one of those people that always focus on being a "mommy", and mommy annoys me anyway. It is one thing for your young child to call you that, but who uses that word past a certain age, lol? These people annoy other moms because they make being a mom seem super cheesy, rather than a normal life thing that you balance with the rest of your life. Yes it is special, but as you said having an identity outside of that is very important. I do like her dancing though, just not the over the top reactions as if she is brand new to life just because she had some children.

I did like Kristen's reaction to Jack. That was very refreshing that she basically said we hardly know each other, and then went for a swim. Too funny. I also was a bit surprised by Daniel and Lacey. They won't last but it was nice to see them comfortable with each other.

I think everyone is confusing what I said as if I think they are great people. I don't. I meant they seem like they should be nice and normal but they are not in reality. My focus was on how stupid they are acting not the nice and normal part of what I said.

I thought the twins brought some life to the show even though they have their issues of course. I did think the guys could have just had some fun and gone on a fun date, so that was kind of dumb to have it end the way it did. It is BIP, not everyone will actually get married after being there type show. And I do agree that it is a waste of time to have people come in so late in the game if they are going to pretend an actual relationship could take place from this show. Just go ahead and bring everyone on at once in the beginning...it might actually allow some mingling.

I agree.... I feel like they "seem" like they should be, but clearly they are not. lol

I think they are just stupid at this point. They seem like they are fairly nice and normal individuals but then they constantly do dumb stuff like this. Yes, let's have court cases related to money going on, and then post instagram photos of your expensive vacation! Why yes, that is so bright of you! They may be Hollywood, but if you have debt as high as they do they are poorer than many people in America. Those people should be going to the Four Seasons, not Tori and Dean and their huge brood of children.

Thanks for sharing...that sounds so mean. they suck.

What else did they do at her house? I think when I watch online they must not show all of the scenes because often I miss something others are talking about. I only saw the restaurant online.... Regardless, they are very scary, and I hate that they don't realize they impacted Jace just as much or more as Barb.... they should know a scene like that would scare him.

After watching this, I think it is clear that Janelle and David just made themselves look bad with that segment with Barb versus making her look bad at all. I assumed that, but seeing it just goes to show what bullies they are. It would be one thing if they were upstanding citizens that never did anything wrong, but with histories like theirs it makes no sense to chase someone down for having wine with a meal. I don't really know anyone that feels they can't have one beverage with a meal just because a child is present. Most people know their limits when it comes to driving, etc, and drink responsibly. So in the end it just looked like a bunch of stalkers chasing an older woman. They are so great and that should win them over in the courts. lol. I, too, am impressed with Leah this season. I just don't know what to think! :-) And the funny thing is that I don't think she is trying to do all of this to make it look like she is doing better, it almost seems like she is doing it naturally, as if she has come around quite a bit from her past.

I agree with you all... I am not even sure why they wasted their time airing this stuff. I like how they act like there is so much excitement in the previews, and then the show comes on, and it is a bunch of nothing. I will have to tune out..... I looked at the clock at 9:30 and felt like I had been watching for at least 3 hours and wondered how their could be another half hour left, and also wondered why they bothered to think there was actually 2 hours of content here.