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Even if his OG kids still liked, trusted, or respected him, who wants to live with daddy and stepmommy when you have your own adult life, job, and possibly family of your own? I get that multigenerational housing is a thing. It's pretty scarce in modern US times, though, and trying to wrangle 13 bio children AND their spouses AND their kids into one large cult building is just not realistic. What about the kids' partners? Don't they have parents too? What about their career goals, their jobs, their friends, pets, and lives? Are all to be sacrificed at the altar of Kody's kidneys? I legit have been trying to figure out lately what is the obsession with getting your adult kids to "come home." Partially because my own mother keeps mentioning this to me, and I'm wondering if it's a common thing among elder people to demand that their kids "come home." Look, I haven't lived where they live in decades, I couldn't navigate their city without GPS, it's not home to me. Is this a common thing for people with adult kids? To expect them to sacrifice their own lives and fail to launch so you can have them nearby?

Thanks for this info! I'm glad it's working for you. I do find it upsetting that so many physicians make such a big deal about weight that they sometimes miss other health criteria, although I'm learning that that trend is easing up a bit and doctors are actually listening to people (now, if only we can get them to listen to us about menopause! I am not imagining these hot flashes! I'm not too young for this, I just have a good dermatologist!). I was just curious because it seems so many people are using GLP-1s that people sometimes refer to them as having "Ozempic face" or "Ozempic butt" and I read (again on another thread) that this can be attributed to the muscle mass that is reduced with their use. A lot of this is coming from my own concerns about muscle mass as I age. I'm trying to prevent or postpone the tendency to break things more easily as I age, and while I'm not on these drugs, my curiosity got to me. I hope you have continued success and good health!

I agree, I wouldn't put too much stock into Thanksgiving plans. I try to avoid traveling for Thanksgiving and even if I did, it doesn't make sense for me to spend two days traveling just to spend two days with family for a single meal. And I adore my mom. Not everyone cares about Thanksgiving or other so-called "traditional" holidays. Maybe Meri cared for awhile, but after she got relegated to "only make the rice krispies turkey" status, maybe she stopped caring. And we have no idea what Leon thinks.

In another thread, Yeah No said: "Yeah I watched that scene and it was even worse than I was expecting. I would have no problem with that hill and I'm about 5'2", 198 lbs. and 26 years older than she is. But I walk a LOT and maybe it's a good thing I can't take those weight loss drugs given what you're saying above. I don't need more things causing me to lose muscle mass at my age. I didn't know that was a side effect. The more I hear about those drugs the better I feel about not being able to take them." Question about GLP-1s and specifically muscle loss: for women in particular, isn't it important to maintain or improve muscle mass as you age? I am of the understanding that women lose bone density extensively after 40, and lifting weights and ensuring proper muscle mass is one of the best ways to combat or slow that loss. In theory, if a woman is taking GLP-1s and not lifting weights or consuming enough absorbable protein, does that make her risk of lower bone density higher? I wonder if this risk (assuming I'm right) has been communicated properly to women taking this drug. I am not here to make any sort of judgment, do what you want with your body and I'm sure this drug is a lifesaver for some, but so many women shy away from weights to begin with, it makes me concerned that patients using this drug may not be fully aware of what problems it can cause as you age. (Indeed, it seems like even physicians and researchers aren't fully aware of long-term side effects.)

I've got a question about this and will take it to small talk.

Age will do that to you. Hitting 40 (well, and the pandemic messed us all up) was like hitting a brick wall for me, and my formerly athletic (though not all the athletes rolled into one) self had to work much harder to get back into shape. I also have to spend a lot more time rehabbing after hard workouts, whereas eight years ago, it was nothing for me to run 10 miles at 4 am and lift weights or go skydiving later that morning. Now, I'm doing periodic massages, daily scraping and stretch/yoga, and dietary changes just to avoid injury and keep my energy up. Add an extra 300 pounds to your frame, as well as a near lifetime of bad habits and poor health, and it's even more dramatic. Whitney's never been particularly athletic or talented, but when she was younger she could fake it better. Getting older is a privilege, but it's humbling. Like you, I would really love to see more Ashley and Heather. They're funny while still being normal.

This is the only place I can ask since I'm not on Reddit, but does anyone know where Whitney might have gotten those long dangly red earrings? Usually I cringe at her cheesy Target aesthetic, but those earrings were super cute. Edit: I may have found them on Amazon. I may have to make an exception to my Amazon embargo for these.

She referred to it as a "dog bar," so yeah it seems likely. She and Ryan went to one in an earlier season. I don't like to discuss "leagues" generally because they're stupid and everyone has their own tastes, but that man was 100% completely out of her league. Come on now. Conventionally attractive, fit, and likely much younger than her? Seemingly normal? Very unlikely he's going to be attracted to her. Let's be real here. The pickings are slim where she's at. Hyper-morbidly obese, nearing 40, in poor health, with no real job, no real friends, no manners or boundaries or sense of propriety, a loud braying laugh, a terrible personality, and the requirement to be on TV if you get involved with her? This is not a recipe for romantic success. I dated in my late 30s a lot, and I live in a large metropolitan area that was more men than women, am moderately conventionally attractive and financially secure, with a huge social group and solid relationships, and in a sport that was 87% men, and it was still rough. The odds were stacked in my favor and I still had a hard time. (Ironically, things lined up when I met the right woman, but she's already play-acted queerness and that didn't work for her either.) Like everything else, she wants The Perfect Man (tm) to fall into her lap while she lounges around in bed and makes inappropriate jokes. She wants perfection with no effort. Ditto her dance, weightlifting, and personal training "careers" and just about everything she tries once and gives up on. Two great things I got from this episode were: 1) dogs! so many cute dogs! and 2) I didn't know professional stretching places were a thing. I found a few in my area and I'll be checking them out!

I hear you, but Glen is the one saying he is thinking of selling. Obviously we only see what he says on camera, but that's all we have to go on, and he's the one who wants to sell. Whitney is trying to keep him in place (so she can continue to control him).

Agree, that was extremely weird. Nothing like appropriating pieces of a belief system you don't follow for "entertainment"! This was up there with her "Jew-Bu" appropriation. Some of us take this shit seriously, Quitney, and don't need your mockery. The pickle thing was so gross. She clearly uses food as a comfort, and people with compulsive eating behaviors often turn to low-calorie foods to satisfy their fixation. Nothing at all wrong with that! But pickles are a bad choice. She already has had HBP, her mother had multiple strokes after living off canned soups and little else, and she gets very little to no exercise. That much salt as part of a compulsion is not a good idea. I get it, pickles are delicious, but maybe try some other crudites to balance it out?

She does this constantly! Sees Hunter on a dating app? Freaks out and falls out of her chair. Roy has the audacity to be dating someone? Freaks out "on air" and demands to know who it is. Hunter tells his girlfriend he loves her? Freaks out and demands to know why he didn't tell her he was going to tell her first. She tramples boundaries constantly but acts horrified if anyone does anything without her explicit agreement. That "bachelorette party" was so cringey. I know it was for the show, but I had so much secondhand embarrassment. I could smell and feel that sticky scene inside the limo. I get Whitney wanting a sedate weekend with the girls, it sounds really nice to me--but her niece is in her 20s and a party animal. Read the room, woman! Angie might want to get some help for her very obvious drinking problem. She was slurring before they even got in the limo. I'm no puritan, I like drinking plenty, but she was very, very drunk. In your 50s, you may wanna reconsider getting that drunk on cheap flavored whiskey, particularly on camera.

I didn't watch this, but it also seems a bit--unnecessary. If all they're doing is "trying for a baby," Whitney is just squealing over them raw dogging it. No one needs to know that much about you guys, Jess and Isaiah, as much as we think you're adorable. Squeal when there's an actual baby to squeal over.

I'm mostly vegetarian, but I have tried fried turkey and it's delectable. The Californian in me is cringing hard at them frying it on grass. If it was indeed Thanksgiving instead of just for the sake of filming, they'd have had a long wait for emergency services if they'd set the place on fire. This episode was such a snooze for me. I get that they're desperate for content, but I have no interest in the Alabama/Kentucky family. Maybe it's because I lived in WV for so long, but fried turkey/huntin'/playing with carcasses/eating garbage food/dressing in camo for no reason is not fun to watch or do. That cranberry sauce was atrocious. You can see how they just sliced up the cylinder as it slid out of the can. Real cranberry sauce is criminally easy to make and actually tastes like food. I wonder what else from that meal was prepackaged. Probably everything but the turkey. Speaking of, you could tell those were decoys from a mile away. That was funny, though. That's one thing rednecks are generally good at--harmless, fun pranks. And what was up with Whitney's gloves? Is she cosplaying Slenderman? The squirrel was cute and Kenny was nice. I am pretty annoyed that Whitney thinks she's too good for him somehow, when he's only playing nice for the cameras. He doesn't seem that into her, although he's more convincing than her other "love interests" have been.

Good on them for protecting the dog's feet. That sidewalk must be extremely hot.

The whole time Jasmine was expounding on the benefits of all things blue, I was thinking "I bet this all sounds really profound if you're on whatever they're on." Miriam really does seem quite lovely, and in my head she and Dannielle escape Ick and become great friends. I don't really see a physical attraction from Dannielle, but rather a woman who's giving everything she's got and starved for attention, finally getting someone nice who seems to be interested in what she has to say. Their lunch date was the only calm thing about this series. When the family were together eating baklava and the sister in law said she felt peace coming from Miriam, truthfully, I felt it coming off the screen too. She's just a decent human, and I respect that she's standing up for herself, drawing and enforcing her boundaries with Ick, and requiring that they, not only she, would have to make changes if they were to be together. The audacity of the Ick family expecting her to just abandon her clearly-loved faith to become a christian when they won't even consider giving up bacon for her.