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Well when she announced who she was she affectionately called them "Papa Joe", "Mama Cecile" and "Auntie Jenna" so it seems like she had a good relationship with the rest of the family. I solely blame any problems with Nora's maturity on the writing. Physically she is perfect casting because she looks like she could be Barry & Iris' actual child. But Jessica Parker Kennedy could play Nora much more maturely if the material called for it. I watched her for four seasons on Black Sails and she was a prostitute in a brothel who worked her way up to madam. She was a smart, cunning, manipulative survivor. The complete opposite of Nora.

Huh. Too me a minute of even realize Supergirl was actually in the poster.

Man, I've never even given Kim Porter second thought, just as Diddy's girlfriend and mother of Al B. Sure's clone child. Seriously, Quincy Brown, her son with Al B Sure is basically Al's mirror image. He's the male co-star in a current Netflix Christmas move with Kat Graham and it is just disconcerting how much he looks like his dad. Anyway, Janelle Monae wrote a moving tribute to Kim Porter and I never realized that in her own right she is a behind the scenes entertainment networker mover and shaker especially for black women in the industry. So sad for her kids.

Since Nora has made zero effort to look at, speak to, spend time in the same room with the current Iris, the assertion that current Iris is like future Iris from Nora's perspective is baseless. By contrast, Iris has attempted time and time again to connect with and get to know Nora. The only time Iris gets at all impatient with Nora is when Nora is acting impulsive and out of control out in the field. Not following the protocols the team have in place for good reason. In this episode alone she cut Iris off, went off half cocked and almost got two innocent bystanders killed because she was in her feels instead of acting like an actual crime-fighter. One of the biggest problems I have with how the character of Nora has been presented so far is that she had the emotional maturity of a 12 year old. Everything takes second place to her feelings and impulses. She is all Id. She doesn't stop and think about how something might need to happen for the greater good -- just for her. Even in the previous episode, they had come up with a plan about how to approach Spin. And because she was attracted to the girl, all thoughts of the plan went straight out the window and all she did was flirt. She refused to even consider Spin might be trouble because Iris was suspicious and she'd do anything to disagree with Iris or to show Iris up. Welp, turns out Iris was right because Iris had a better perspective. So I can't get behind everything Nora says a gospel truth because so far she had not proven herself be a reliable narrator and she definitely doesn't seem to think outside of herself. Maybe, just maybe, future Iris has some perspective about future events that informed why she did what she did that Nora never took the time to find out because she ran off without even trying to talk to future Iris about it.

Claire's friend was annoying all around. She was pushy and insensitive and was passive-aggressively using her illness as a bludgeon. I giggled every time the name 'Dash' was spoken aloud because I kept thinking of the kid from The Incredibles. Although I know the actor who played Dash as Gabe from the Netflix series Dear White People. So I was pre-disposed to like him. Lea stays being awful. Good lord, she calls Shaun at work because a damned fish looks bored? She cleaned the pebbles in a new environment that was probably already shocky to the fish? Girl get a job! The kidney transplant bickering sibs case was interesting. Maybe I have a cold dead heart, but I was more sympathetic to the donor guy than the receiver guy. Also WTF with Morgan pulling in all these random relatives? I know the show wanted to soften her up but that level is a bit ridiculous.

Damn. Iris jumping off that building had to be the most ride or die thing I've seen all year. Not only did she dive off a building she managed to get a key into a handcuff lock as her velocity increased. Badass indeed! I loved Camille's tone of voice and The Look she gave Nora when she started her 'This is the West house and in this house ..." speech. Nora was being extra bratty. I hope we are finally over this era. This did the character no favors. The slo-mo walk into the party and Iris' red dress/ Barry in a tux was everything. It is so nice to see that side of WestAllen. Ragdoll was creepy as hell. Not great motivaton when you think about it, but still creepy. I actually liked Ralph! Who knew? I especially liked him calling Sherloque Shirley. And now that he is no longer a 'woe is me' guy who needs to be pep talked each episode, he's more relaxed and naturally humorous. Ugh. Sherloque. The less said.... I am glad they are trying to do something with Caitlin, giving her a story that does not involve her betraying the team (so far) or a failed love interest with new guy of the season. But I can't help but feel that this entire KF story is so poorly conceived. It is not hooking me. I am not feeling all the "my dad used to do that" breadcrumb clues and clever puzzles to solve. Maybe it'll kick up some next week, but so far this is a snoozer.

I agree about the song and the crying. Didn't move me really. I did like the parallel road-trip-of-discovery storylines, but honestly, I felt Rebecca outshone Jack in theirs. For some reason, it just seemed that Mandy was really bringing it while Milo just wasn't for me. She's the one that kept my attention. re: Zoe, I think a person and a relationship can be all those things. I also don't think her molestation is about her relationship with Kevin at all. That was all about her. I think those things show a progression in how she sees her relationship with Kevin evolving. She went into the relationship insisting on casualness because that is how she's learned to not get too involved with people over the years. I feels to me like she saw the relationship getting deeper and kept giving herself reasons to keep it from progressing. The first step in her deciding to actually move it from the casual was the race stuff -- how much of me to I allow myself to reveal to this person? It was also like she was looking for yet another reason that the relationship wouldn't work. I think finally with the molestation reveal all the rest falls into place. We finally see why she fought so hard to keep him at arms length. I actually do believe Kevin is really in love. In every case, with the exception of Kate, Kevin's interactions with the people closest to him, it has always been about him. He saw his parents' affection for the other kids as a rejection of him. Even with Sophie there was an air of her being his and all about how much he needed her. His little speech to Zoe about it being ok for her to stay closed off felt like the most adulting Kevin has ever showed on this show. I like Kate and Randall, but I agree it was nice to get a break from their issues for awhile.

Aww... I loved how extra bouffant-y his hair was. It just added to the dorkiness. For me, Ray and Mick were the MVPs this episode. I just loved all the extra little personality bits they gave to Ray. Of course he loved Summer camp. Of course he made his own special lanyard! Of course he liked all of Chad's stupid 90s jokes. Of course his survival techniques came into play to help save the day. Man, I loved Ray this episode. He made Constantine bearable to me. And then Mick. Gulag booze and understanding helped with bond with Charlie. I always had a soft spot for any Mick/Amaya interaction so getting that in this version of Mick and Not!Amaya is very satisfying for me. And even though I miss Amaya-the0charcater, I am loving how I don't see a speck of Amaya in Charlie. What a difference attitude and her own accent makes. I am not gonna lie, I think Ava deserved the prank the kids played on her. But I enjoyed her and Sara's mini-subplot. Also the child actors who played them were excellent. Did I miss it or was the Director of the camp just a mean old lady or was there something more (earthly) sinister about her? They kinda just left her laying on ground in the woods. Heh. Great end tag with Nora. I just love this show!

That photoshopped picture getting dragged all over twitter and I am here for it. LOL. Interesting they chose to highlight this as their first teaser since it is probably all we'll see of Iris in the crossover. Heh. I agree that nothing about the regular characters look interesting, but I suspect that is because it seems like the thrust of the storytelling with be on the Gotham/Superman stuff. I am still not sold on this. I'll watch the Flash, of course because I always do. But not sure about the rest. I will say that last year's Crossover The Supergirl and the Legends parts were the best, imo. And I don't normally watch Supergirl. Regards the non-regulars: I am good with a Batwoman series. But I am kinda over Superman. One of the reasons I enjoy the DCTV universe is because we get stories about the non-Batman, Superman DC heroes. Batman and Superman have been done to death for years! Over and over again. I can't even get excited by Lois Lane because it is so obvious that they are using the Christopher Reeve movies as their template even in their casting of Lois. Bitsy Tulloch looks so much like Margot Kidder! I agree with @Trini about them saying something new about this Lois. Oh well.

MMPB books are really that for the mass market. They tend to be mostly for genre fiction where the first run is typically paperback, not hardcover YA is not really considered mass market. If you look at the cover art, typset and the bindings, the marketing for it, YA is also considered a limited market. They also are market targeted to libraries and get library bindings. WRT to SFF, some of those books are doorstopper huge. Sometimes regular MMPB simply is impractical from a construction standpoint. I remember when Storm of Swords came out in paper, the page count was so high they had to release it in trade size and even then it was still really fat.

Yeah, I was pretty curious about Michael's man as well. He seems nice. It is interesting that he was as dispassionate and methodical in his reasoning about that Lola/Norman situation as Athena was. I am on their side btw. I agree with everything he said. As I was watching the Lola/Norman situation all I could do was roll my eyes. Do you really need to take over a billboard, tie up city resources , shoot at people (she is lucky she didn't get killed) just to work out your mid-life crisis, suburban middle class marriage woes? I am so glad Athena arrested her ass. But I digress...was Michael attracted to him because he has a type? The no-nonsense hard-nosed type? A low-key male version of Athena? Also I loved the real talk about double standard when it comes to her reaction to him. Athena is 100% correct, nobody would expect her to be warm and welcoming if it was a woman her husband left her for. Her fake greeting was soooo fake and awesome! LOL. Also Michael being supportive of Bobby and Athena isn't a reason for turnabout in her case because we know he was doing it out of some guilt and the hope that if she moved on then he could feel better about how he exploded his marriage. All that said, I do like that family dynamic. I enjoyed the looks Michael and Bobby shared after Athena and the boyfriend started to bond over the wine.

It is a marketing strategy. As Athena explained, trade paperbacks are for more literary "important" fiction. If a mass market title is being pubbed in trade size/quality then they are attempting to attract an up-market audience. And the vice versa is true. If a lit fic book gets pubbed in mass size it is because it hit some popular tipping point and they want popular fiction readers who would otherwise bypass lit fic to find it accessible. Also if it actually does attract a bigger audience, it is less expensive to produce a print run in that size.

Yes. This is one of my frustrations with the show and I think I point out some version of this each week. LOL. Delilah should have consulted an estate lawyer by now to see exactly what has to happen with all Jon's assets. By all accounts she is a stay at home mom with no other external income. Jon is not alive to continue his business so theoretically no new money is coming in. Is she aware of investments? Did she even ask about a life insurance policy? Is she not concerned about the future? Even if they were wealthy, money is not limitless if it isn't growing. Given what (little) we've seen of Jon's workplace, it looks like he was a one man shop with Ashley as his assistant, otherwise there would have been other people/partners in and out of that office after his death. So yeah, if Jon isn't there to conduct business then WTH is Ashley doing indeed and why isn't Delilah more concerned?

I am headwanking that the 'Charlie' form we meet her in is not her native form either. Just one that she picked and liked in this time and place and decided to keep. So it is conceivable that if she is stuck in the Amaya form long enough and grows and affinity for it and builds relationships with the group using that form, that even if she were to get her powers back she may decide to keep it. Also comparatively speaking budget-wise it is a cheap power solution (unlike Nate's going steel or Ray shrinking). If she needs to shapeshift into a day player character or even another regular character then it costs the show nothing.

This was a nice episode. I like that we got a callback to the time the team went Disco. It was offscreen and all we saw was the outfits and the aftermath, so it was nice to use it again as a reference point here. And I especially like that it was cleverly done because it was an unexpected callback based on Rayge's (ha!) quickly improvised dislike of disco. On the one hand I think trapping Charlie into the body of Amaya is a neat little way to bring back Maisie and allow her to use her native accent. And also gives her a personality so radially different from Amaya. On the other hand, in show, it was really a rather dick move by Constantine. Which brings me to the other interesting issue raised in that they really are using a one size fits all approach to the magical creatures without assessing whether they should all be banished to hell. In Charlie's case she was basically being given a murderer's level of punishment for doing what is probably the penal equivalent of selling weed. Based on her conversation with Ray it seems like she was imprisoned in the first place not really because of any real dangerous things she did but because of what she was. Unlike the unicorn and the fairy godmother who were wilfully dangerous to people, Charlie just seemed like she just as mush a poseur as the rest of her band, albeit in a more literal sense. But she wasn't malicious or evil. It seemed like her only real threat was to the timeline. I am looking forward to seeing Nate's reaction. I am in the small minority of viewers on this board in that I liked Nate and Amaya as a couple and I think in the end the actor did sell us Nate's love for her. So I wonder how they'll do it. I also hope they allow her to bond with Mick. I liked Amaya and Mick's interactions and thought the two actors had a lot of chemistry. Charlie's rebelliousness seems like a great fit for Mick's personality.

No he was crushed against the gate. The car was parked on a slope. He got out to go get the mail. The camera zoomed in on the gear stick to show that the car was in neutral and it started to roll. When his husband called 911, we see him at the gate with is husband who is pinned and Maddie telling him not to move the car. Speaking of real life stuff, the story of the newlyweds who had just gotten married and got into the horrific car accident upon leaving their wedding was eerie because that same day a story was trending on twitter about a real life couple who had just gotten married and the helicopter that they took from their wedding reception crashed and killed them and he pilot.

I looked them both up, the actors are 77 and 79 IRL. If they met in the mid 70s then they'd have to have been at least 33-36. The problem is the younger era actors looked barely in their 20s.

I know right. I was doing math in the air, like.... if it is 2018 right now and they are dancing at a disco then it had to be at the earliest 1973? And they look about 20s, let's fudge it up and say 25. Then if we subtract the ....hmmm... and carry the 1 then.... .. yeah still can't make the age as old as they looked. LOL. I am really enjoying the different couples on the show, they each have their own flavor. Bobby and Athena are new but mature about it, he's basically slid into her family all comfy like and they have nice, subtle PDAs during work hours. Maddie and Chimney are cute. Hen and Karen are solid. And Buck realized that Taylor Kelly (thank God!) is not good for Buck 2.0 and he and Earthquake girl seem like they had one of those dates where the conversation is so great you can't tear yourself away. I liked seeing all the different couples of the week as well. And was so happy the newlyweds lived! agree this felt like it would have been a great fit for a Valentine's Day ep. This is one of those shows that has found its groove late in S1 and now it is really strong in S2.

Yeah, that's me too. If I dislike more elements of a show than I like, or if watching it leaves me with more negative feelings about the show than positive ones, then I'll stop. This show is one where I like elements of it enough to keep watching and I think the show has potential to be better. The bones are there, they just have to find the meat. In the meantime, I get to vent about the things that I think stop the show from reaching what could make it really great.

Man, I am glad that worked out for Claire. The whole time I was like "please let her be right, please let her be right." Claire just needs a win sometimes and I am glad she got one. She even is managing to dig under the shell of the inscrutable Park. I really enjoyed their scenes together. Ah, and I see we are getting Resnick: The softening. It is interesting how Shaun/Resnick contrasted with Park/Claire. Shaun's insistence on paying attention only to the medicine was the right call in their care, whereas Claire insistence on a more holistic approach showed where relying so much on the technology and medical tests failed their patient. It took me a minute to recognize Jewel Staite with her much darker hair and rather harder personality this character had. Of course I know her primarily from Firefly, but she was also really good as a former child star who was struggling as an adult in the criminally underrated L.A. Complex series. I loved the look on Lim's face as she observed Claire and Melendez in the elevator. The pursed lips, the barely concealed humor. I think she is a good addition to the show. I also love hearing about her and Mlendez's past. Poor Melendez, it has to be infuriating to be in the situation of knowing the person you are competing against (all in your own mind) isn't even trying to be bothered by you and are gong about their business just being excellent. LOL Still don't like Leah. I was enjoying the hospital stuff so much, the domestic stuff with Glassman, Shaun and Leah was a bit of an annoyance. It feels like they are inventing reasons to make her a viable part of the show.

The way she was mashing those potatoes I sure did expect some hateration in that dancerie! That was a ripped from the headlines recreation of a Canadian robbery http://www.krbe.com/2018/06/29/watch-canadian-robbery-gone-wrong-with-a-failed-escape-from-the-ceiling/ I remember seeing the original and when the woman comes out of the ceiling she is missing a shoe. I was way to invested in wondering what happened to her shoe.

Lifetime tv is doing an updated remake of Pride and Prejudice called Pride and Prejudice: Atlanta starring an all black cast. Deadline has an article about it.

I know, I am glad I am not a doctor or a lawyer or even a cop who watches tv. I know that the tv shows take dramatic license with these professions. On the one hand it makes sense because you have to make a show dramatic to be watchable and entertaining and I am sure that 99% of lawyering is not dramatic last minute witnesses and lawyers yelling "You're out of order!" But on the other hand I have a personality that if it were my job that was being represented and more than half of it was not accurate, I'd be one of those people who would be just too frustrated to enjoy it wholly. So I get to enjoy in my ignorance.

I'd find it believable that a woman in Delilah's circumstances would be unexpectedly pregnant if she believed her birth control was working or that she had previous fertility issues . What kills the believability for me in this particular instance is what we have been given in show cannon text: 1) Delilah is not having sex with her husband 2) Delilah is having regular sex with her lover 3) Delilah apparently is not using any other birth control since no other method was mentioned 4) Delilah also does not mention that she is menopausal or have any other medical condition that would lead her believe her fertility is not an issue and 5) we were explicitly told the condom broke. With Nos. 1 -4 present, then when number 5 happened, that alone should have made her consider pregnancy was at least a possibility at the time it happened. Most people when confronted with a broken condom do the "oh shit" math because pregnancy is the first thing that jumps to the forebrain. Honestly, at this point I believe Delilah may have hoped she'd get pregnant. Even though the show has been vague to the point of non-existent on their revelations about what was really happening in Delilah and Jon's marriage, I can't help but feel that everything Eddie related wrt to Delilah is just a massive "fuck you" to Jon rather than any deep feelings or Eddie and Jon's suicide messed all that up. I personally have two main issue with Delilah -- the writing for her and the actress. Neither one is doing Delilah any favors and this is why I have a hard time liking the character. At the most basic she just feels like a really dishonest and passive person. Why did she have an affair with Eddie? Does she really love him? Is the kid really his or did she lie again? Why is she allowed to coast on her actions? Why does everyone coddle her? I feel like the writing wants me to be sympathetic toward her but I can't. So far the show has shown that she has had a pretty good life with her husband. It has given no real motivation as to why she'd cheat on him except, what bored wife who got snapped at once? And I think some of that has to do with the actress. She just doesn't infuse any depth in Delilah. All she does is cry it seems like. So in addition to an unsympathetic storyline for her, she just isn't really delivering anything to rise above to make her sympathetic. Contrast with Eddie who is just as much a liar and cheat as she is, but at least he got some real blowback. And David Giuntoli gives Eddie some layers and the show has at least tried to show some motivation as to why he would cheat on his wife. We know he is a deeply unhappy man in his present situation, with his marriage, with his life. And he seems like he is really in love with Delilah. Not forgivable, but understandable and DG sells it.

But don't you think if future Iris disappeared/died then Nora wouldn't be as hard on current Iris she is? I mean if she comes back after both parents are gone then this is the opportunity to see both her parents happy, alive and together in a way that she never knew them. Her reaction to Barry makes sense. But wouldn't seeing her mother alive again after she is supposedly dead trump the anger?