DearEvette

Oh yeah if we are going with phases then I'd say: Favorite overall: The Witness Favorite Rom Suspense single title: The Three Fates Favorite Oxymoron title (tie): Carnal Innocence and Public Secrets Favorite Trilogy (entire): The Guardians Favorite Trilogy single title: Year One Favorite Family: The O'Hurleys Favorite Category title: (tie) Dual Image (which imo feels like a proto-version of Private Scandals) and Gabriel's Angel Favorite In Death: (tie) Treachery in Death and Origin in Death

Not disputing this at all. I just assumed it wasn't new news.

Me of today would not watch The Wire. I just am not in that mindset anymore. And I admit I had a rough start with the show, I didn't think I'd make it past the fisrt few episodes. But in retrospect I think I fell in love with it sometime round the last part of the S1 and into S2 where I really got to know the characters and understood the story he was telling. The writing it really quite brilliant. And it is one of the most quotable shows ever. But, NGL, when I've done a re-watch I could only re-watch S1 and S2 it gets too heartbreaking after that. That said... I discovered Burn Notice during the writier's stike. This is 100% where my head is at. I love spy vs. spy hijinxs. And It reminds me of the Parker books by Richard Stark where the main character is a master criminal who breaks the fourth wall to give you all these tips and tricks that criminals and spies use. The character of Parker on Leverage was an homage to that character in these books. Anyway I enjoyed the heck out of it.

Ooh... that's the one with the archaeologists isn;t it. I think I have that on audible. Might be time for a re-read. If I had to pick... I'd say my favorite book of hers is The Witness. The backstory, the brilliant, socially awkward, possibly on the spectrum heroine, the lazy affable Southern hero. The killer dog! The Russian mafia. The takedown. I think I've read it three or four times.

I think they tried to prime us with the awkward silences on the boat. I wonder if they had worked out, if that part of the boat ride would have made the final edit? But once they get to the 'outside world' the cameras don't follow them 24/7 or have the coverage they had during the pod/honeymoon phase. People are back at work and doing their own everyday things in addition to the LIB obligated stuff. Cameras can't be in their workplace or other private residences that the LIBers might enter. Even public places are dicey for them to film like clubs or restaurants. If Kenneth is out places and away from the house -- as it seems he was -- then yeah there are gaps. And the man was on his phone so much, who knows what was going on with him. They can only work with what they give him and Kenneth wasn't giving much. And I would not be surprised if Kenneth and Brittany had already broken up off camera but were told they had to do it on camera. Hence how disconnected that entire conversation sounded and how totally checked out Kenneth already was.

I thought Mackenzie Phillips had openly discussed her alleged incestuous relationship with her father for years?

The camera crew has been following them for what now, three years? And no documentary in sight yet, with the possibility that segment would not be aired given the hundreds and hundreds of hours of footage. But the student filmed them now with immediate consequences.

Yeah I saw the cousin texts. If he is not out, then his cousin is a terrible person for forcibly outing him. If he is gay and not bi then, the cousin thing aside, he is a terrible person for misleading Brittany. I think their whole vibe in that break up was weird and this could explain why. My husband thinks that Kenneth is deeply closeted and if he is in the church -- which it looks like is the case -- then he might be trying pray away the gay and tried with Brittany but couldn't bring himself to do it and iced her out to get her break up with him... hence the gaslighting. So yeah, still a terrible guy. Man, remember the good old days when Matthew was the worst guy on this season? Sigh. I miss those days.

LOL. That was my reaction. I mainly just get it mixed up with FreeForm. I actually was watching Leverage Redemption again (Don't Judge me!) and almost every single ad that came on was about.... Amazon Prime.

Even Janine's wasn't illegal if it was medical marijuana. . But y'all are not asking the right question. Namely, did Ava and Jacob watch Saltburn together? And if so, how? Why?

Ok so, the link has been updated with a video from him. He says that he was already out of the relationship before he got the invite to apply and had been by a couple of weeks. They reached out in November of 2022 and said that filming would begin in March 2023. So if his timeline is correct, it would have been at about four 1/2 months between the break up and the filming. I mean, yeah, how quickly or not you can move on is an individual thing, but I am not sure this is quite the scandal TMZ is making it out to be.

Quinta was a guest on First We Feast (the show with the Hot Wings). It is on YT. BTW.. I love these interviews. He asks such good questions.

They seem to be very careful not to say they were involved while he was on LIB. So if they broke up before he went, where is the smoke? Is it because it was so soon after the breakup? He did mention selling the the house and that isn't a quick process. I wonder if it'll come up in the reunion.

Ok how cool that Kara Saun is the costume designer. She came in second in the very first season of Project Runway.

There are conflicting reports on that. Several of the LIB people have said.. noyou didn't have to go all the way to the altar. But some others have said you did. I think the 'have to get to the altar' mostly came out of S1 where people were wondering why Jessica went al the way to the altar with Mark when it was so clear she was still mooney over Barnett and was not into Mark. Each couple have their own producers and I swear I read somewhere that the producer persuaded Jess to stay to the end. But a fari number of other couples broke up before the altar: S2, Shana and Kyle broke up after that awful trip to see her family. And of course, Jackie and Marshall broke up at that point as well. and of course there was Irina and Zach who barely even made it past the first face to face meting. Same deal with Taylor and JP (the guy who though Taylor wore too much make up and always wore something with an American flag on it). They broke up mid-honeymoon. So maybe it was a requirement that got removed after S1.

Super bummed about Cricket. I liked her no-nonsense manner and sense of humor. It would have been really fun seeing how she and Will might have meshed. Oh well. The Will and Faith partnership is still great. I loved them tsk tsking over how dumb the main target was while he was eating his food at a diner. I dunno. I still see Angie as a person making a lot of bad decisions. Sure, fine, have a taboo sexual relationship with your doctor, but to blackmail him into clearing you against your own best interest tells me she still has not learned. As much as I respect their history, Angie is still too volatile, imo. I suspect that Angie is not the only woman Ormewood has cheated with, so his being all worried about being cheated on was some great irony. I love that his wife was like... 'Yeah, about that... ' Heh. So glad this show is back!

The kids this episode were top tier. Just everything about them made the episode stellar. Their facial expressions during the F.A.D.E. assembly were spot on. They were savage in their own way. Barbara: 'REEFER. GAN..JA. The Devil's LETTUCE! I suggest you all DROP your VICES and take a hit of my DRUG of choice: J-E-S-U-S. Street name. ..... " Spreads arms 'CHRIST' I died. And Rose on the third day! LOL. The entire scene in the lounge was chaotic with the snaps, snapping. Loved it. Jess...Ca was giving me Gina Linetti flashbacks. I was so triggered. The actress was great but damn... the character .. uh uh. No ma'am. I am glad she is just a day sub. Who would have thunk that Tariq's appearance would have been the high bar F.A.D.E? I really like Janine having enough muscle to overturn a possible suspension for that poor kid. Also, once again Ava shows her humanity when it comes to the kids. I like it that she was also disgusted by having to suspend him and was looking for an out.

My Brother in law when he was the VP of our middle school wouldn't let anyone post pictures of him on social media unless he vetted them first. I remember my nephew wanting to post a Thanksgiving picture with all of us at the table and there was a wine glass at his setting and he removed the glass and had his son re-take the picture. He was really hyper conscious about appearances in that way.

I got the biggest laugh when Jeramy's face cracked at Laura letting him know she was peeping him on the tracking app. I can't stand Laura. She is too abrasive for my taste and just seems unlikable. But damn, did she zing him. And dropped the mic. LOL. I wonder if they are dunzo too? I don;t remember if we saw them in the previews. 100%. The kid + the idea of a Meghan Fox look alike totally influenced him. I also want to say, honestly, I think Chelsea picked Jimmy over Trevor because of Jessica too. Like in the back of her mind she pulled a guy away from someone as pretty as Jessica. I don't think AD was against Kenneth and Brittany being IR. She asked him if he had ever dated a white woman before and he never had. So for him to go from never dating a white woman to getting married ASAP to one is a big leap. Contrast Kenneth to Lauren from Season 1 who also had never dated IR before. But Lauren grappled with that and talked that out a lot. She voiced it as a concern, we saw her ask Cameron about his ability to raise black kids. Now, Kenneth and Brittany may have talked as well and we just never saw it, but if AD could get into his head that easily, then chances are they didn't talk it through. AD's eyelashes have been driving me nuts from day one. I HATE them. I would love for someone to do a style makeover for her. She looks so CUTE in her glasses. I would love to see how she looks in a full natural hair with smaller lashes. Kinda like Clay's sister. Now I loved her whole vibe. AD is pretty but she has terrible head styling. Chelsea is the same. Sure she is no Meghan Fox, but she is not ugly. I would love to see her get a makeover too. Her hair looks thin and limp and it is very unflattering to her face. I think a bit of volume or a great layered cut would look good on her. Man, 9 episodes in and I just realized I completely blank on the other couple. The Puerto Rican woman who thinks a vasectomy at this juncture is on the table (WTF?) and Perpetual Frat-Faced dude. I am thinking there is some context left on the cutting room floor. But from what I can gather ... (Ok I had to look them up because I could not keep calling them PR girl and Frat-Faced dude)... Amy does not want kids but also does not want to go on hormone based birth control. Oookay... There are other options. And then Johnny either does not like to glove up or doesn't trust condoms as the lone method? It isn't clear but I am going with door number two because ... again for some one who does not adamantly want kids, raw dogging it is just a recipe for disaster. Which if he does rely on two methods, then... Respect. Personally I would never just rely on condoms alone if I am committed to being kid free. But that is the most interesting thing about them... barely.

Yeah, I talking more along the lines of my like/dislike of him as a person, not just necessarily as a mate to AD. But this also made remember what I forgot to add in my prior post another big thing in the minus column about Clay. He just seems so immature and unseasoned. AD is a woman-woman and Clay comes off as really rather childish. I HATE the tendency he has for burrowing into her bosom. Like, Ugh! The rape allegations aside (I think was was filmed in April-May 2023 -- so before the Cassie stuff blew up) no one should ever name check Diddy as a relationship influence. No one should ever name ANY public entertainment figure as a relationship influence. You don't know their life. Public facing is not the same as truth. And shit can come out about them in a flash. Jonathan Majors was everybody's Black King darling and look at how he was. So yeah that is another indicator that his thinking is not mature. The cheating thing is interesting. I know a lot of people take it as a pre-confession. And it could be. But it sounded like something he has been a bit terrified of, kinda like the child of an alcoholic or domestic abuse. No cheating is not genetic, but parents can screw up a child in many ways and skew their perceptions and create a cycle. He said at the time he did not know that was happening. Kids can rationalize a lot when it comes to a parent they idolize. And it also might be why in the prior episode he threw out the idea of going to couples therapy. I agree he is not ready to be a husband. He should actually be going to his own therapy right now to unpack his issues with his father and fidelity and become healthy before embarking on committed relationship.

The 180 heel turn of Kenneth left me so confused. The silence on the boat was so awkward. And when they got home, he just seemed to disengage completely. It is like a switch turned off as soon as they left the island. It even took me a minute to realize they had broken up. I turned to my husband and said 'What just happened? Are they done now?" That was so weird. And he couldn't even put the phone down long enough to give the end of the relationship the time and attention it deserved. Damn. Clay is a rollercoaster ride all of his own. Sometimes I just want AD to drop kick him and just go. Other times, I see someone who is seems like he could be a great guy to be around. And then he'll do something else that I think sounds shady. Only for him to do or say something charming and endearing. I am still not 100% sold on Clay. His father did a number on him. Yikes. Jimmy. But damn he's not wrong. She is clingy. I said it right as she was complaining he didn't kiss her. But also, Yikes. He bsically said he only had sex because she initiated it. Oomph. Dude. Laura is... a LOT. Jeramy is so funny and easy going. And he should not have had to apologized to her for the AD debacle. That was all on Laura.

That's a fan made video. Bey isn't really releasing videos for Renaissance, except for lyric videos.