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He is under the sheet. I'm the opposite. So many tears of sadness. He wasn't killed in the fire, he was killed and planted there. I get the feeling that the Mahoney's figured it out and killed him and planted his body at Annalise's house after getting him to pin everything on her as some type of blackmail deal.

Wes is under the sheet.

I saw a map a little bit ago that indicated that the Flash was the most watched program in the mid-west. Considering who was in the world series and playoffs I think the Flash was negatively impacted by baseball more than other shows. The L+7 didn't seem to indicate a huge drop of overall viewers watching during the week just a drop in live viewers. So now that baseball is done maybe the live viewers came back.

Thanks. Like @secnarf I only had two names. So I'm not sure if ABC caught on but that wasn't there for me.

So...who is it? Can it be posted in the spoiler thread? My DirectTV guide isn't spoiling me. I don't know if they caught wind or if ABC has already changed it.

Wes' name was Christoph

Honestly, I just cared about that last bit with Jane/Roman. They are so much more interesting to me than anything else on the show. Him saying that he works better with her, I really do just love them. I wonder if he is playing her for Shepherd based on the preview for next week.

He did talk to the police but Nate told Annalise back in 3 x 06 that the NYPD had received an anonymous tip that Wes was a suspect, which lead the NYPD to focus on Wes again.

Who did give Wes' name to the police? I don't think it was Frank, and the only other people who knew about Wes/Mahoney were Laurel/Bonnie/Annalise? Anyone else? At first I thought it was the person on the phone but would they know about Wes and why wait 5 months.

And yet she has covered up legit 1st degree murders for the other people. Annalise was not trying to protect Wes when she was trying to get them all involved in covering up Asher's hit and run, and certainly wasn't protecting Wes when she was gaslighting him about Rebecca when she knew the girl was dead and knew that Bonnie had killed her. She does have a connection with Wes but she has not gone above and beyond what she has done for the others. She didn't even know who had swung the fatal blow when she first told Wes to not be sorry. When they all balked about helping Asher cover up the crime she threatened all of them to get them to fall in line. Wes didn't say anything because he believes that she is trying to protect him and I do think that he believes that he has caused her a lot of grief so he keeps him mouth shut. I doubt Wes is saying anything about the murder that he committed and implicating the other Keating 5 since that would lead them to turn on him, this seems to be entirely about the Mahoney shooting since that is all the NYPD should be interested in and that certainly did not involve anyone else from the Keating 5.

Someone from another board saw a theory on Twitter and I can see it happening. Basically, the idea is that this does not mean Wes is alive. There is a possibility that Wes went to the police station earlier in the day and that they are charging Annalise with first degree murder and arson precisely because Wes was under the sheet. They'll believe that she killed their informant.

So pre-empted until next week to avoid the World Series.

I did notice that Joe was still wearing his wedding ring. After learning about Francine I wonder why he still wears the ring. I wonder if it will come up if he does begin to date Cecile or will they just remove the ring and never mention it.

I hated the name Top and I couldn't figure what it referred to when they first said it. Also, not sure why they had Jessie say the name Top like I always viewed the nicknames as internal things amongst the group, it just seemed weird.

Oh no, I hope that Roman doesn't lose his shit now that he knows that Remy is not all in. When Naz was shooting Jane down regarding telling Roman, I envisioned a fantastic show of Roman/Remy roaming the world kicking ass and avenging wrongs. I like Rich Dot Com and I'm happy he didn't outsmart them again. Weller/Naz, whatever, as long as it keeps him away from Jane I will deal. Is Patterson the mole or Borden, I vote Borden because I think anyone in the know has to realize that Jane is waffling and not completely anti-Sandstorm. Reade was harsh with Zapata, and I didn't realize he knew about her gambling problems but I wonder if that isn't part of it because he repeatedly said he didn't do it and I think he would have admitted it so why did she risk anything to go steal the knife. Wonder how that is going to bite them in the ass in the future.

I don't think she wants to make out in front of Joe but the reactions by Barry and to some extent Joe were a tad over the top. In reaction to almost being caught kissing Barry sped away, changed their drinks, tried to blow out candles, and produced a chess board to pretend like they were just hanging out. Then Joe and Barry were acting messy over Barry just having his arm around Iris. I don't think she is blind to how it can be awkward but I'm not sure the solution to that is to pretend like they're not intimate at all. I think the end scene was a happy medium, just casual peck and then hanging out.

I liked the episode it was light hearted and fun to me. I admit to never have viewed Iris/Barry as siblings, they never viewed each other that way so I never had a problem with the relationship. I get that Joe is a father figure to Barry and Iris' father but considering the age and circumstances of when Barry moved in I just never saw it as more than best friends who grew up together. So I thought their scenes were cute tonight. I didn't think Iris had a problem with not making out in front of Joe because she never did that with Eddie, but Barry was just super extra with the whole thing. He didn't just stop kissing her, he just changed their drinks, he sped in a chess board, he grabbed a pillow; like just stop kissing each other, and then the next time when he couldn't even put his arm around her, I would have put a stop to that mess too if I was Iris. Then the ending scene with them and Joe was great to me. They were just all chilling and it all felt fun and easy. Caitlin should just tell them about her powers, we just went through this with Cisco and she knows that no one looked at Cisco differently. I understand the dynamic is slightly different because they had experiences with her doppleganger who did have the same power. I think they would help her but I do understand her fear in revealing her power. I would also like to say that DP hasn't really gotten on my nerves this season, I don't know if it's been because she has played more light hearted things but I actually like the character right now. I don't really understand the need for dragging in another Harrison from a storyline standpoint. I understand that they are obsessed with Tom C and he is a great actor but the team functioned with Harrison in the past and it would probably open up more time for other characters to have time placed on their story. I will probably like the way Tom C plays HR but I still don't think he is necessary. I'm happy Jessie Quick is gone, I liked Barry in the role of mentor but at times the lab seems too full and that includes Iris. I feel like they can have her part of the team without her just being at the lab. I understand that is easier for them to write but how I wish she and Linda were doing their own thing on the side from time to time. Like investigating a suspicious activity that is kept in the background while the show drops clues on how it connects to the larger Star Labs plot while also having her involved slightly in the cases, but that seems like a wish at this point. Overall, I really liked the episode and the vibe. I hope they can keep it up, the doom and gloom doesn't work for this show.

Ok so I have a slightly different take on the bolded. I actually don't think Remy was that ruthless of a killer when it came to her brother. Something Roman said about how Remy told him that you have to hide the things you love so they can't be taken makes me think about their relationship. I just don't buy that a ruthless killer goes back to retrieve a gum wrapper because of the significance to her brother, I think Remy was hard on him and she probably was a mess in so many different ways but I do think she loved her brother. She protected his life the only way she knew and while I do think she was more ruthless than Roman, I also think that Roman may be remembering his sister through a Shepherd filter as well.

I don't understand how the casting got so many of the guys right and failed with the main guy. Oscar and Jane had great chemistry. I'm loving the vibe between Ian/Roman and Remy/Jane. And I loved David, I love Borden, Reade is fine and then there is Weller who is just so unattractive to me and charisma free, I just don't understand how they got it this wrong. I re-watched the episode and honestly Roman/Jane were just great together, that moment in the lab where he gets upset with her saying the first night they met and then talking about how her looking at him like a sociopath and it just worked for me because I can imagine having a sibling who has forgotten you and all your experiences. I seriously just flove them. I have decided that Nas is just playing Weller, she knew he was vulnerable and this was her play to get closer to him. Otherwise, I'll have to be disappointed by her and I love Archie to much, so I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.

I really like Roman and I like Roman and Jane/Remy together. Their fight scene was great. I really wish they would bring on another guy that Jane/Remy can be with because I hate that she may still end up with Weller. I still miss her S1 boo. This was a good episode.

It just hit me that this is another timeline because RF seemed to be okay with how things were. So now someone else has messed with the timeline and Barry has to deal with the consequences. I like it.

Yeah, that moment is going to get super confusing. I'm confused if S1 Barry even exists in that moment anymore. Because in the S1 finale Barry is waved off but that moment changed in the S2 finale to no wave. So not sure where we are with that moment.

I liked it. I especially liked that Barry doesn't get to mess everything up and go back to his timeline. I feel sorry for Barry's friends because he is messing with their lives constantly by the constant timeline changes to make himself feel better but I'm hoping that the writers are interested in actually having Barry suffer consequences this time. I'm intrigued by everyone potentially being angry at Barry because something like this was sorely needed after he did this again. I'm actually interested in where they go with this and how long they will play this out.

I'm so upset that Pawter is dead. I really liked the relationship between she and Johnny. It just seemed healthier and cute. Plus I thought she was a good addition to the supporting cast so even if she and Johnny weren't together I would have liked to see her remain a doctor or her place as royalty.

They hate BC because her presence makes the whole Tyga/Kylie situation looks worse. They want to put a gloss on the K/T relationship and anyone who prevents the Kardashian machine from running smoothly is cast as the enemy.