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Is everyone else getting a ton of pop up ads? I tried 3 times to set up my response but ads kept blocking me and slowing me down. Grrr. Anyhow, I don't know what I missed but did Ashton over-react? Or was there more involved that we just didn't get to see in this episode? His anger is straight up scary. I thought he was going to hit Kate, and no one stuck up for her.

Also... by throwing in the word 'from' the assumption is that she graduated with her high school class, from her high school. Leaving out 'from' merely insinuates she eventually received enough credits to graduate.

Having your picture in a yearbook does not equate graduating. My son's picture looks fabulous in his yearbook, despite being short 4 credits and not graduating. He had to make up the credits a couple of years later in order to attend college.

is Shannon slowly morphing into Vickie? Beware of too many procedures, ladies...

Then again, remember the nasty ass look on Shannon's face whenever Tamra and Gina would get close and/or make up after an argument. That's when I realized that Shannon started being nice to 'Gina' and accepting her because she saw she was in a no-win situation. Shannon is so jealous of Tamra, she'll embellish and exaggerate any tidbit of gossip if it means Tamra turning on a HW. Shannon needs to ditch Tamra and re-focus on Kelly. They are hilarious together and they bring out the best in each other. Shannon is on a path to passé-ville if she keeps up with Tamra and Vickie. If she won't disengage from the Amigos, then all three can get lost. I won't miss them.

Vicki's apparent jealousy of/ hatred of/ anger with Braunwyn is amusing because Vickie hasn't a clue that she appears so outdated, prudish, and simple-minded for her inability to move past Braun's openness regarding her sexuality, husband and kids. Braunwyn is so open about her kids, I hope they're aware of how detailed she gets about their thoughts or habits. Judos to her husband for backing up what she says, even when it seems unlikely. (They split up, they both moved on to date others, but they miss each other. Good on him for cutting back hours in his career. You only have one chance to raise your kids, so it's good that they make an effort to attend everything they can. (I do wish the housewives would showcase their nanny (nannies?) because any absence of hired help makes an average mom feel guilty and inadequate for not being able to cope with their kids.) Lastly, every time Vicki opposes Braunwyn, based on morality, I have to laugh. She appears so uptight that Steve's counting on Vicki's occasional offers of a missionary romp will dissipate once the ring is on her finger and the marriage contract signed. I am pretty sure he'll talk her into a very sweet (for him) prenup as well. Imagine... receiving a financial payoff, having the opportunity to do as you please, and only having to be physically intimate with Vickie on anniversaries and birthdays. Good life for him. Oh my, these HW are getting me so annoyed and fed up I am close to writing a book just on the reunion 1&2 forums. Apologies for my rants but AARRRGGHHHH, I am fed up with them!

Can you imagine if any of these HW (in any franchise) actually spread rumours that were complimentary. "Did you hear about Kelly going to Brazil with Jolie and participating in Habitats for Humanity?" "Did you hear about Shannon and her ex donating money to her daughter's college, for the counselling department?" "I heard that Tamra is offering free training sessions for six months to anyone placed on a strict exercise/diet regime because they're are on the verge of diabetes, heart disease, etc.?" God forbid we viewers get some feel-good news that would make us like these superficial morons.

You read my mind. Kelly's generally chill about idiotic rumours about her, and she flipped to the extreme because her daughter was impacted by a rumour. (Who knows, The rumour of doing coke may have been true 25 years ago,but who cares?) Also, Kelly does not like to spend money foolishly, let alone on lawyers who could lose - she likes to win. She and Michael have clearly done a decent enough job parenting their daughter because Jolie has the best attitude for someone her age, and actually gives the BEST advice of all the HSOC characters, past and present. I can just hear Jolie lecturing Kelly to ignore the 'tres amigos' jabs because they are only 'words'. Jolie pointed out (with her mom) that the truth eventually rises through the BS and reveals itself. Kelly may say horrible things, but she always states what she's heard and where it originated. Then she sits back and waits for the dust to settle and the truth to come out. (Not like Tamra or Vicki who heard it from a friend of a friend of a friend... who heard it from Shannon, lol).

And for some reason, she's developed a go-to look that is no longer cute and too young for a woman her age. I am speaking of the raised shoulders, wide aw-shucks grin, followed by a giggle while demurely looking away. The first time I saw this it appeared genuine and funny/cute. But after 5 years, she's not innocent nor a deer in headlights. I find she does this response more and more, so someone has complimented her on it because now it doesn't even match the subject being discussed. I realize I sound like I am rambling - does anyone else know the Shannon-response I am alluding to? Words fail me at present.

Even in LA/OC/Hollywood? It seems like everyone in Southern California talks about who has done what, especially if the doctors want their work to be seen and liked. Shannon looks amazing and could generate clients for Brian. Maybe that is only for plastic surgeons rather than cosmetic doctors?

Once again, re-read and LOVED this post and only want to add... So libertarianslut, tell us how you really feel about the OC housewives? Ha!

Dorinda from RHONY put this procedure in the spotlight (God love her for it as it is cheaper). I would have to research how the fat is 'melted' and whether the actual cell remains. I do know that liposuction permanently removes specific fat cells, but the fat will just find new cells to expand in. I would lip everything but my chest (I was always flat-chested until kids... now I am a whole B cup, lol). It would be a boob job without a foreign object. (Joking everyone - I am too cheap to pay for improvements, but I do say 'go for it' to any male or female who wants cosmetic surgery.)

Good point. If I could only get rid of one or two characters, it would be Tamra first, then Vicki. The fact that Tamra has had to spend so much $$ on a slander lawsuit is karma coming down the pike. She has said so much crap, as well as spread outrageous rumours, that she creates/embellishes from a tiny nugget of truth about another. We all knew eventually someone was going to call her on this. It's about time because she seems to apologize to someone specific every year, only to exhibit the same behaviour the next year. Don't apologize for repeatedly breaking your own behaviour-change promises. Same goes for Vicki. The two of them are evil. (I question how 'religious' they truly are.) Even Tamra's public accusation that Kelly "go back to s**king dick for money" could very well be true; or could be outright slander. When Tamra's back is to the wall because someone has correctly called her on her BS, she resorts to nasty personal slander. Eventually she will pay out enough $$ to learn to shut up.

I had enjoyed Shannon and her overall personality for years, but I have to admit that I do not like what I am seeing this season. She blows everything out of proportion and looks silly when she can't even own her shitty behaviour. Kelly is Kelly and I know what I will get with her. I cringe when she talks like an uneducated, trashy, gangsta wannabe BUT her behaviour and responses are consistent and she does have a big heart when she allows herself to be vulnerable enough to trust others. She attacks when she learns she's misplaced her trust. What does Tamra et el do? - they stab her in the back by gossiping about her ON screen. We learn Kelly equally has a bag full of gossip, but only after she's been double crossed - then she shares what she's heard. I also call BS regarding the OGs claims they're 'protecting/defending Kelly' - the fact that the tres amigos have no problem sharing any HW dirt amongst themselves is an example of their intentional manipulations. Every year, Tamra plants seeds, Vicki nutures and exposes, then Shannon ensures they don't lose/ forget about their outrage and need to shun the victim. Shannon's and Tamra's insistence that Kelly has impacted their lawsuit (by instagraming Jim) is a joke. That's part of the reason I have to back away from all three 'amigos'. Don't mess with Kelly because she will say what she's heard and who she heard it from (as opposed to Vicki/Tamra's/Shannon's constant pointing fingers yet never naming names). Let's shake up the scene and get new wives. If the show doesn't last, so what? It had a good run. I am pretty sure it will do fine even if Vicki believes she is the only one who keeps the show on the air. lol

Your post had me laughing out loud. Re: your views on Marc - Exactly! Don't propose to a former Miss USA who appears regularly on a reality television show if you don't like 'flash'. When I learned any prenup was full-on nixed by HIM, I saw serious red flags. I do not believe Marc is as wealthy as he implies and she is probably so embarrassed by his scam, she's not denying his claims. Plus, the look she gave him when he said he can protect his money in overseas accounts...? Yeah, right. And if looks could kill? I don't blame her for getting annoyed re: driving a Bentley. It's her money and her house is paid off, she can buy what she wants. How dare he take control of her money. Not a good sign, not at all. Wasn't her first serious man abusive physically and now this one is emotionally abusive?

Loved your post. (At first I thought your name was librarianslut...lol) When I read the above line, my first thought went to Marlo. I cannot help but shudder when her girls are on display. How does anyone think that almost-bare breasts are a good look? Unless the women dressing this way are willing to do anything to be on camera longer? Kandi has worn some questionable outfits, but she generally wears outfits that look like they are quality garments, rather than ordered from Fredericks of Hollywood.

I agree with what you are saying - I would hate to be 'second' to some superficial win, no matter how important the 'title' may be. It is still not a thing you can interact with or have feelings towards. I thought she would have said the birth of her child, marriage then winning the title. Regarding your observation on children- I agree, but only to a point. My relationship with my kids always came first UNTIL their teens. When they were vulnerable and totally dependent upon us, my hubby and I both put our darlings first (as they didn't ask to be born into our relationship). We made ourselves available, period. Once 16 hits - they need to become responsible - especially for their choices and emotional reactions. We've taught them enough to understand that marriage takes work and dedication, and teens need to be aware that it is time for us to be selfish now.

This was a perfect episode to hate on Kenya and how thirsty she is to be part of ANY plotline on RHOA. However, towards the end of the episode I began to wonder if she needs the show because she is trying to generate as much income as possible so she can dump that sorry ass of a husband. (Explains her horrible behaviour at Marlo's launch). Her hubby was so disdainful of, and disrespectful to, her that I felt extremely embarrassed for her. However, I think she tolerates playing the public victim role because everyone else is seeing the interaction; so when she finally leaves, no one will fault her.

Yet her posts on instagram and her behaviour on 90 Day Fiance show her to be less than intelligent and less than classy.

I began to recognize the end of my Tania viewing when she was discussing her relationship with Syngin and his clingy behaviour. I felt she was the clingy one when we were first introduced to her and her controlling ways, then when her peers at the Costa Rica retreat were pointing out that Syngin was "ciscentric" so wouldn't be able to understand Tania, I just had to turn her off. I am over it.

But everything is about her. She is one of the most unlikeable characters on this show since its inception. So entitled and oblivious to how she really comes across.

Natalie is not working with a full toolbox. Her poor mother will never be rid of her (or maybe she doesn't want to be?) as Natalie's view on life and relationships is not realistic. Her extreme mood changes are worrisome and the 'issues' she perseverates on raise red flags.

I do not agree with Mike's out-there beliefs but I do agree with his right to believe what he wants. His attitude/approach is to accept everyone and not judge. HOWEVER, Natalie's judgemental and extreme reaction is very worrisome. Wars are started because of this inability to live and let live. He has basically said that she can raise their 'child' with religion BUT he is not going to be upset if this child chooses to believe in something different. Yes, religious beliefs are important in a marriage, but given his unconditional acceptance, he needs to move on. She is scary religious.

You know there's a lack of awareness and/or intellect when they misunderstand "Chatty Cathy", but are at ease with, "Shut up Dumbass!"

Nooooo Waaaay...? Was this REALLY said, or are you poking fun at the general type of people who appear on JJ? If it was said, I really need to find that episode on youtube. How does JJ not break out in uncontrollable laughter when these dimwits respond to her questions? Too funny, however, once I saw your name,"Patssy Stoned", I thought, oh no, someone (ahem) got into that Antiguan weed the Dr. was warning everyone against... lol (jkg)