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Doesn't mean they won't pull a 180 and try to make it like Dean was holding Sam back. I'm thinking Red Meat part 2.

She's seen the episode, there must be a reason she phrased it that way. It's also written by Berens who wrote We Happy Few

https://www.hypable.com/supernatural-season-13-finale-samantha-smith-interview/ Putting this here in case anyone what to discuss it. It gets off to a very bad start. "Sam Winchester and his merry band of hunters." Its once again this kind of things that leaves me bitter. Just once I'd like to see the show acknowledge Dean's leadership abilities. "Some growth" My money is that its another after school special for Dean. dynamics are explored, "Dean you have to treat me like an adult. " Fates are changed I hope this is about the character Jensen is going to play. As happy as Mary is going to be to see her boys, there is a large part of her that doesn’t want them there. Shocking.

He's jumping at his own shadow. It's not even remotely believable he's scary in this current state.

I don't. This is the way Mary came across to me. She can bond with everyone and anyone who isn't her sons. With regards to her sons she didn't even try. But yet with no effort, Jack, Bobby and Cas and all kinds of random strangers matter more to her.

He might go off white for 5 or 10 minutes but I don't see him going evil or siding with Lucifer at all.

https://fangirlingtodeath513.tumblr.com/post/173528073524/tweets-from-natalie-fisher-regarding-13x21 Give the spoiler about protective Dean, I'm guessing the "Dean moment" is actually him having a revelation about Sam

I saw some tweets from someone who say the ep and they asked if there was any Dean moments and she said something about the most growth and how there was one moment where she was proud of him. She's primarily a Sam and Cas fan so I'm guessing its Dean's annual, "Sam is a big boy" lesson.

Poor Sam. Rowena and Gabriel moved on quick. From the EW interview. I noticed some typos so I fixed them If she’s in General Mary mode at the moment, how will having her boys in that world affect her? She doesn’t want her boys in this world — not because she doesn’t want to see them, but because it’s not safe. I think she has reconciled the fact that she (hopes) she will probably never see them again and now that Jack is now filling that place in her life.

General Mary feels responsible for Bobby? Since when? Mary's been there barely a year and was locked up in Michael's headquaters for most of it, and Bobby probably has been fighting the war most of his life, but sure, Mary's suddenly the general in charge. To bad she never felt responsible for her sons or has any desire to connect and get to know them.

The only way this makes sense is if its a sneak peek of the ending scene and whatever happens to Sam involves Lucifer and they've already exhausted the last of Gabriels grace.

I figure it will be all about Sam. IMO, its why they pulled out the big brother card again last week and again this week.

In other words; Water is wet The Sky is blue The grass is green. I do wonder what Rowena does. I'm guessing she's going to sell out one of the brothers, probably Sam since he can kill her.

This is the kind of thing that makes me bitter. Dean is more than a brother. http://tvline.com/2018/05/02/lucifer-season-3-spoilers-deaths/

Since Lucifer doesn't know that Gabriel is back, what a perfect way to ambush and kill Lucifer since they have the arch angel blade. They can drain the grace and use it to their hearts content. I don't think anyone would care if Lucifer was dead. If they are going to trap Lucifer and drain his grace why not do it there and leave him to fend for himself. Why bring him back to the bunker and trust Rowena too keep an eye on him. Wouldn't Gabriel be better since he's an arch angel and actually has the power to best Lucifer and bet him and kill him if necessary. I wonder if Rowena betrays them,

Same with Dean. Because just last episode he didn't want Sam anywhere near Lucifer, or even thinking of going near him because of the whole revenge thing.

Sneak peek. Either Dean found a new valium supplier or Sam slipped him some because suddenly he's okay with working with Lucifer. When last week it was "no Sammy, I can't let Lucifer hurt you." Unless the purpose of Sam's lecture was to put Dean back in his place of not questioning anything and just going along. Every week I become more and more convinced they don't read each others scripts. Yet antoher episode about Sam's hell time. Just once, I;d like one about Dean. (that's not comic relief/mocking)

Sneak peek Why can't they just use Gabriel's grace.

I believe the audience was meant to sympathize with Sam after The Purge for no other reason than the writers tweeted that Sam was coming from a place of honesty. So when they wrote the script they believed Sam was speaking the truth. I just think like the writers so often do they underestimated Jensen and his ability to soften the writing.

http://www.ksitetv.com/supernatural/supernatural-spoilers-beat-the-devil/175300/ Promo photos. I don't know why they insist on trying to make me feel sympathy for Lucifer. I have none. Number 6- I think I need to go sit in the freezer until I cool down. Number 4- Is Sam looking at Dean and why is he looking at him like that.

This makes Fallen Idols even worse. Because Sam said if they were going to work togehter he demanded to be forgiven instantly and Dean should prove that he does trust Sam. Sam was the one that chose to get back in the car with Dean. I agree that only reason he did that is to keep punishing Dean. Its just another example of Sam's double standards.

I don't think I've ever scene this picture before but it demands to be shared

I think the situation in AT was different. I haven't had a chance to rewatch, but IIRC, there was a malevolent spirit who was trapping the ghosts and preventing them from moving on. Dean promised the kid he would free his spirit which means he didn't want to just salt and burn. He went into the veil to help the ghosts. I see it more as Death Takes a Holiday situation. While I think Dean's just about at the end of his rope and he'd be okay with dying, I don't think he's suicidal in the sense that he's actively looking to end his life. He's been more reckless lately, but that's Dean. He feels the need to protect Sam and if he has to die, so be it.

You might be right with the Rowena thing. I just dont think of Jack as "one of our heroes."

Not that Dabb can really be trusted but Dabb said they had no plans to revisit The Empty this year.