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3 hours ago, zorak said:

Yes, episodes are available all the way back to season 1.

That is interesting, there were a couple of episodes of BB2 that I did not get to see.  Maybe I should get All Access for the free week or month (I do not recall the offer, they send it to me every month telling me it is my final free offer).

2 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

The more I think about it, the more I think about how much of a waste it is for Cliff to be the one who was caught. Imagine if this was someone who mattered? This would be an iconic Big Brother moment! Since it was Cliff, though, it's pretty meaningless. It's like if, I dunno, Jenn City was discovered plotting in BB14. There's a certain amount of, "Okay, but who cares?" to it, which sucks, because it's such a hilarious fuckup!

This...

and this...

1 hour ago, Callaphera said:

Oh, Jenn City. You were... there. That's about as much as anyone could say about you. 

If I see any mention of Jenn City I will never not add a laugh icon.  Jenn City FTW!

Edited to add:  Just a few minutes after posting this I got my monthly offer to get CBS All Access for free.  The must have read my mind.

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Nick is talking to Kemi in the bathroom.  Nick is saying he doesn't think they have enough votes to keep her.  She says she's going to try to talk to Cliff.  Nick says that if they can get Cliff, maybe they can get Tommy.

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Jackson, Holly, and Jack are talking.  Jackson says that they need to do the opposite of whatever the other side wants, so in other words, they need to keep Jess in the house.

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3 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Oh, Jenn City. You were... there. That's about as much as anyone could say about you. 

The best Jenn City moment was when Zach used the term "Jenn City" to insult Nicole's game.

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9 hours ago, zorak said:

 After it was over, one of the spectators told Nick that Jack poked it with the safety pin in 3 different spots.  

Just another way of Jack showing who is the Alpha and who is the weak little man at his mercy.  I really do think that's the subtext.  

2 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Welp. Vote flip is cancelled.

Thanks Obama Jozea Christie. 

I think our own Lady Calypso called that! 

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If I see any mention of Jenn City I will never not add a laugh icon.  Jenn City FTW!

I still remember the way she use to say her name with the utter confidence that it was the most badass thing ever.  Lol

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Give it a week and we'll be listing Jenn City's Greatest Game Moments. Oh, look, we're done. That was fun, guys! We should do it again some time. 

Okay, for real feeds talk. Enjoy this clip of Jack explaining why he doesn't like Kemi and really, wouldn't we expect this of the Human Eating Machine instead of his shorter named douche bro?

I was gonna turn on the feeds to see what was happening but ...yeah, back to that 1 hour loop of "Grover... Grover Johnson?" someone linked on reddit. It took me until 0:39 to actually cry from laughing so hard. 

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I stumbled onto the last part of a convo  where Jess was drowning in Jackson's snake oil salesman-like charisma. he assured her that she's not going anywhere. And sadly she was flattered by the attention and ate up every word.

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Jackson, about how Kat absolutely 100% must vote to evict Kemi: "They have five - they have five. We have six with you. You're the swing vote. You have to vote against Kemi."
Kat: "Yeah, I know."
Jackson: "You have to."
Kat: "Okay."
Jackson: "Your vote will determine who goes home. Seriously."
Kat: "Damn. Look who's relevant now, America." *big smile at the camera*

LOL

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Holly, coaching Kat on pretending to not know who she's voting for tomorrow to Nicole and co.: "Fake it."
Jackson: "Just fake it. Fake it tomorrow."
Kat: "Well, I'm good at that."

LOL

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Holly, about the "alliance" Kat/Jackson/Holly are: "I feel like that should be our alliance name." (the feeds had cut briefly to the HoH room so that Kat's family wouldn't sue after she dies from tetanus after her elbow hit a nail sticking out on one of the storage room cabinets, so no idea what the name suggested was)
Jackson: "Thaddeus." (???)
Kat, laughing: "I already told them that it's 3mance."
Holly: "Did you- really?"
Kat: "Yeah."
Holly and Jackson: "Oh my God."
Jackson: "Mom, I'm sorry."

LOL

Oh, Kat. You may be the only good thing in the house at the moment even though you're throwing Nicole and co. under the bus to your 3mance partners hard

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While Jenn City was mostly a waste of space, do note that she was a key part of one of the most iconic moments in BB history, as it was her winning POV that led to Dan pulling off Dan's Funeral. I still remember how Dan convinced Frank but they had to still convince Jenn (who had gone to the wall to win POV to specifically get rid of Dan and prove her worth) and it was basically a fait accompli as, come on, Jenn City was going to do whatever she was told. 

So if Cliff could ever be involved in something half as cool, he'll be lucky!

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Do we have any clue as to what season(s) these guys were given to watch during their sequester?  Or how many were actual fans of the show?  

I’d say that might be a determining factor for me.  ‘Might’ because ... well ... you know ...  it’s BB. 

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46 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

I believe BB17 is the one they've been showing the last couple of seasons. 

Worse: they usually show BB16 in sequester.

I believe they also showed BB20 this year, since the recruits can basically only name BB20 players. 

I see that Nick is going to be the next target (not sure if that's next week or after Camp Comeback ends). I mean, Analyse is a total idiot if she thinks getting rid of Nick over Bella is a smart idea. If Bella is gone, Analyse can wrap Nick around her pinky. He's so enarmoured with her, he'd do anything she tells him to do, which means she'd also have Sam (well, maybe). 

I also see that Jackson, HollyBeth and Analyse want to blindside the other side. Yes, because pissing them off is such a fantastic idea. I hope Sam wins HOH tonight.

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19 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Worse: they usually show BB16 in sequester.

I believe they also showed BB20 this year, since the recruits can basically only name BB20 players. 

I see that Nick is going to be the next target (not sure if that's next week or after Camp Comeback ends). I mean, Analyse is a total idiot if she thinks getting rid of Nick over Bella is a smart idea. If Bella is gone, Analyse can wrap Nick around her pinky. He's so enarmoured with her, he'd do anything she tells him to do, which means she'd also have Sam (well, maybe). 

I also see that Jackson, HollyBeth and Analyse want to blindside the other side. Yes, because pissing them off is such a fantastic idea. I hope Sam wins HOH tonight.

I hope anyone besides the 8 (7) win HOH. Just to mix it up a bit and make them sweat a bit. That said, Jess will probably win and ask Jack who she should nominate. Oh, brother!!!

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32 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

I hope anyone besides the 8 (7) win HOH. Just to mix it up a bit and make them sweat a bit. That said, Jess will probably win and ask Jack who she should nominate. Oh, brother!!!

....probably.

Damnit.

I have a feeling this upcoming week is going to be equally as frustrating.

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7 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Holly, about the "alliance" Kat/Jackson/Holly are: "I feel like that should be our alliance name." (the feeds had cut briefly to the HoH room so that Kat's family wouldn't sue after she dies from tetanus after her elbow hit a nail sticking out on one of the storage room cabinets, so no idea what the name suggested was)
Jackson: "Thaddeus." (???)
Kat, laughing: "I already told them that it's 3mance."
Holly: "Did you- really?"
Kat: "Yeah."
Holly and Jackson: "Oh my God."
Jackson: "Mom, I'm sorry."

Heh. Yeah THAT'S what he's sorry for. :eyeroll  He's a real piece of work.

3 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

I hope Sam wins HOH tonight.

I'm sorta hoping for Nicole as I think she can still make an independent decision without too much undue influence from the other side. But I'm prepared to be disappointed.

If Son, Anal, HollyBeth, or Christie get it I'll scream. Tommy could be a tiny bit interesting because I think there's no way he wants it.

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2 minutes ago, vb68 said:

If Son, Anal, HollyBeth, or Christie get it I'll scream. Tommy could be a tiny bit interesting because I think there's no way he wants it.

Tommy will just do what the Six Shooters want, though. 

Here's the thing; I am aware of what is likely going to happen. Either it'll be Cliff/Nicole on the block OR Nick/Bella. Jess has basically integrated herself into the Jackson/Kat/HollyBeth alliance so she's not going anywhere this week. Nick/Bella may be targeted, despite the fact about Camp Comeback.

I just don't see a real shake-up this week, which is disappointing. I just need Nicole and Sam to both be protected this week (both are decent gameplayers and likeable people). 

My gut feeling said last week that someone like Jack would win HOH.

Tonight, my gut feeling is that one of the Mean Girls (HollyBeth or Analyse, specifically) will win HOH. I hope my gut is wrong. I'd much rather see Sam take it. Nicole wouldn't be bad, but I fear she'd just put up Nick/Bella. Sam, on the other hand, would probably put up one of Jack/Son/HollyBeth/Sis. Sam wouldn't put up Nick/Bella, and he knows he can't put up Cliff/Nicole. He might put up Jess and he might put up Kat, but even they wouldn't be total losses.

I don't even like Nick/Bella, but I'd like to see someone take a shot at Gr8ful, and Sam's pissed enough to do it.

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CLiff doing cliff notes and Jackson is standing at the door. 
FIrst he recaps his love for wife and kids and asks social networking to think of his son for a job. 
Next onto the mystery of Orwell. Next, Ovi asked him if he has some kind of america's vote power. Says we all know that is not the case. Still talking about Orwell. Carries Orwell around because he is part of the show. 
WIsh he knew Jackson was there and could feed some mis-information. 
Someone get Nicole up so she can see Jackson at the door.
 

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Now onto the flip. WHo should he keep? Initially felt they should keep Jessica? But, if HOH is physical, Kemi may better to win HOH. Kemi may go after the cool kids but afraid she would target Michie and Holly. Two people he works well with. 
He is saying everything about what happened last night with Sam talking to him to flip, having votes, etc. 
Now he is talking about Nicole saying she would like to keep Kemi and she was approached about trying to flip it. Now he is saying who all the votes are. Does mention who all the votes are ( including chris and tommy) but doesn't want to go against Miche and Holly. 
Jackson is getting overhearing everything. It is painful to watch.

somebody has got to get their ass out of bed and go to the bathroom !!
 

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Seriously, this is so embarrassing. I can't even imagine how mortified I would be if I were Cliff, but I'd like to believe that I would never be quite this oblivious. Just fucking CHECK TO SEE IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY ALONE, NIMROD!

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Literally, on the other side of my computer I am screaming for someone to get up and let Cliff know they have been spying on his boatroom chats.

His wife must be dying.

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The only positive out of this is with Jackson listening, he has said that he feels like he is working closely with Jackson and Holly.

Jackson would keep that to himself. We will see.

In an  ironic moment, Cliff hopes there are a few people out there listening. Oh Cliff, there are !

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On another note, did anyone see, last night, when Jack and co were in the HOH room and Ovi was walking up? CHristie says, he cant come in, we are talking game. When Ovi comes in Jack sasy, we need some time. I'll come get you as soon as we are done. Whoa! Rude. See Ovi, Jack meant it when he said no one should talk game around you. 

Possible solution to this Pagonging of a season, let Ovi pass his power on to whoever comes back into the house.

5 minutes ago, Ellee said:

Any chance that Cliff knows that Jackson is listening?  Or does Cliff really believe he is working with Jackson/Holly?

NO chance !

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1 minute ago, Ellee said:

Any chance that Cliff knows that Jackson is listening?  Or does Cliff really believe he is working with Jackson/Holly?

Nah, I don't see Cliff having any idea, mostly for the information he is spilling that kind of screws the actual allies that Cliff has.

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Jackson is up in HOH spilling to Jack and Analyse.  Jackson wants to expose the other half of the house by telling Cliff that he thinks that Jess might be going this week instead of Kemi.  But really, Jackson and company will vote Kemi out and still have the votes to do it.  Jack is opposed to this idea but Jackson is trying to argue in favor it.  

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6 minutes ago, zorak said:

Jackson is up in HOH spilling to Jack and Analyse.  Jackson wants to expose the other half of the house by telling Cliff that he thinks that Jess might be going this week instead of Kemi.  But really, Jackson and company will vote Kemi out and still have the votes to do it.  Jack is opposed to this idea but Jackson is trying to argue in favor it.  

It's like the scene in Rounders where Mike discovers KGB's tell while they're playing poker at the end and Mike notes that when you discover someone's tell, you don't let them know you know!* Same thing here, you don't let Cliff know you're on to him. It's a total waste. 

*Of course, Mike then proceeded to let KGB know that he knew about his tell, but it was a unique situation. 

7 minutes ago, Pass the Tequila said:

Burn!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kat just went up a thousand points in my estimation of her. 😁

When I was reading about her before the season started, she really showed herself to be a surprisingly well-spoken person, so I'm pleased to see that that rhetorical skill has translated to a lot of fun snarky zingers from her.

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Jack says he's pissed that they were so lenient with Cliff and wanting him to get to jury.  Jack says Cliff could go down as one of the dumbest players of all time.

Jackson says that Cliff running his mouth to a camera in a public place is ignorant.

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Although it pains me to say it, Jack and Tommy are paying the best game. Jack and Tommy can keep their mouths shut. He looks at things pretty critically before getting excited. 
Moments ago when Jackson said Cliffs talking to cameras is the shows he is the dumbest ( or stupidest) thing ever and Jack said, hold on, he is not stupid. I actually appreciated that comment. 
He is talking Jackson down from "big ideas" of feeding false info, etc. And doing it nicely so Jackson doesn't feel he is being dismissed.
eta: this is what Jackson said and Jack jumped in with he is not dumb. 

"If you're this dumb, you don't deserve to be here," Jackson says

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Jack seems to think that Sam has turned on Nick and Bella and was being genuine when he told Jack that he was ok with Nick and Bella being the first ones out of the 9 and maybe even sooner if need be.

Analyse says she just wants to punch Cliff in the face.  She says he's a dumbass.

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1 minute ago, zorak said:

Jack seems to think that Sam has turned on Nick and Bella and was being genuine when he told Jack that he was ok with Nick and Bella being the first ones out of the 9 and maybe even sooner if need be.

And this is why I need a Sam HOH in the next two weeks. I need Sam to fool them long enough to blindside them.

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Jack and Jackson want to know what Cliff's MO is for doing these boat room confessionals.  Jackson wondered if it was for airtime.  I think Cliff is just a really big fan and knows that live feeders appreciate this kind of talk.

OMG.  Jack actually admitted that Sam is the best player in the game.

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Sam fascinates me, because he's a pretty smart guy (in the context of BB HGs, he's a genius) and yet he was so oblivious to so much for the first two weeks. I think his current ire at Jack and Son is a bit misdirected. Sam's not in a bad place for a Jack and Son led squad. He knows they wouldn't want him gone during Camp Comeback (because they would naturally fear he would return) and so I think it's better for him to go along with them for the next couple of weeks before he can break away with the edges of the bigger alliances. He's in a much better spot than the other floaters because he has actual skills people want to use.

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Jackson is demonstrating the path he takes every morning to stealth walk to listen to Cliff.  He says he's figured out where the quiet spots on the floor are.  I really need Cliff to be clued in.

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22 minutes ago, zorak said:

Analyse says people always underestimate her and that she loves proving people wrong.

She is probably my most least liked person in the house. She just want to "hit someone". Well , you go girl. So far, you are pretty useless except for looking cute and being a vote. 

Actually, Kemi is a lot like her in temperament but a thousand times smarter.

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Jackson said they should return Orwell since they now know that Cliff is not America's player.  Analyse doesn't want to and says they should let Cliff suffer.

I think Jackson and Holly might have been doing something under the covers last night.  Analyse just said to him something about the cameras catching him and Holly last night.  

Also, how can Analyse have the nerve to say that Cliff is fucking dumb when she's the one who keeps having unprotected sex with Jack?

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2 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I need a power shift this week so I hope Sam wins HOH. Everyone else will just go for Nick/Bella or the outsiders. The thing is though, Sam will almost certainly throw it.

And he really SHOULD, though, right? Winning HOH is pretty pointless to him this week. There's no way he's anyone's target this week. 

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2 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I need a power shift this week so I hope Sam wins HOH. Everyone else will just go for Nick/Bella or the outsiders. The thing is though, Sam will almost certainly throw it.

Sam would not want to rock the boat with an HOH win. That is the last person to go to Camp Comeback. Its the following week that will matter.

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3 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I need a power shift this week so I hope Sam wins HOH. Everyone else will just go for Nick/Bella or the outsiders. The thing is though, Sam will almost certainly throw it.

As much as I would love that, yeah, I agree that it probably won't happen, especially with one more week of Camp Comeback. I think we have one more fairly boring week ahead of us.

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