Season 21 Live Feed Discussion

[Katesus7]

Jackson is gonna nominate Jess/Sis because “backdoor”, Nick will finally actually do something not completely gross and win veto, and Jess will go. I’m putting this out there only because I’m always wrong, y’all. 

[Cutty]

Holly being so anti-Nick makes me like her immensely. 

[Lady Calypso]

Meanwhile, I think Cliff fell asleep at the kitchen table.

He's probably exhausted from the comp. 

[vb68]

1 minute ago, Cutty said:

Holly being so anti-Nick makes me like her immensely. 

I was thinking the exact same thing.

I have no idea why he wants to keep Tommy and Nick safe.

[hhawks]

1 hour ago, vb68 said:

But according to Nick, no one can beat him in an athletic comp.

I've only heard him say that maybe 300 times.

Thanks VB68 for writing "maybe 300 times" and not "like 300 times."

[Dance4Life]

Nick is still around because he manwhores for protection.  Bella, Analyse and now Tommy.

At the very least he must have nice breath.

 People love cuddling and talking to Nick while lounging around the various beds.

[vb68]

So apparently Jackson overheard Nick and Tommy saying the "other side"  can't win comps. He used that as motivation. Hopefully Holly continues to push those buttons.

[mooses]

Jackson already starting in with "I'm the hero" crap with the, "This house is run by bullies." Nope. Nope. Nope. I can't like him or his shadow (Holly). And Kat wasn't evicted because everyone's a "bully" - it's because they were awful at hiding how close they were and because Jackson exposed her and Holly's relationship.

This feels like BB13 for me all over again where I just can't get on the same page as what felt like the unbelievable majority of the viewers.

Edited August 16, 2019 by mooses

[Dance4Life]

15 minutes ago, sphoebus31 said:

NOOOOOOO!  Just put Christie up.  If she comes down you can still get Tommy or Nick out.  Don't bet on the Veto for your move.

Send Sis home, too.  She is such an entitled little twat.

Her gameplay is to hide behind the bigger players.

Sis does not want Christie, Tommy, Nick, etc gone for this reason.

She also plans to win nothing.....to not get blood on her hands.

Sis wants to be a sweet mute! 

(Sis is playing the game...Kat wanted to play) 🤣

[Brian Cronin]

We were all here, mooses, (well, TWOP, but you know what I mean) bitching about BB13, too. Even the people who LIKED Rachel know that that season was bullshit. 

Edited August 16, 2019 by Brian Cronin

[kellog010]

Tommy not burning the Holly bridge might save him this week. Even though Kat told her not to trust him. So far looks like Christie and Sis noms. Who knows by the time the one on ones start that could change. 

[mooses]

Just now, Brian Cronin said:

We were all here (well, TWOP, but you know what I mean) bitching about BB13, too. Even the people who LIKED Rachel know that that season was bullshit. 

Oh, yeah. And Jeff/Jordan made everyone BANANAS! A more apt comparison is BB19 - couldn't stand Jess/Cody despite their underdog status, and he was such an awful person to win America's Favorite Player. 

[Brian Cronin]

6 minutes ago, vb68 said:

So apparently Jackson overheard Nick and Tommy saying the "other side"  can't win comps. He used that as motivation. Hopefully Holly continues to push those buttons.

"How dare they? I know what I'll do, I won't nominate either one of them! That'll show them!"

[Callaphera]

How long until Cliff makes a deal for safety? 

It feels good not to sit on my Cliff hate anymore and just spew it all out. 

[Lady Calypso]

3 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

How long until Cliff makes a deal for safety? 

It feels good not to sit on my Cliff hate anymore and just spew it all out. 

Well, he just unintentionally volunteered himself to go up on the block so...

So, Kat was the one who went off on Nicole in the storage room before the eviction and that's why Nicole was crying after the feeds came back.

[mooses]

Sounds like Kat went off on Nicole in the Storage Room. Nicole: "I have no idea why she said what she said in the Storage Room."

Kat kind of got all sorts of unlikeable the past couple days. And I loved her!

[Mystery]

3 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

It feels good not to sit on my Cliff hate anymore and just spew it all out. 

Oh, good. Time after time I read these straightforward factual reports and wonder "But how does Callaphera really feel?"

[Callaphera]

2 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Well, he just unintentionally volunteered himself to go up on the block so...

Kat wasn't wrong that Cliff somehow keeps ending up on the side of whoever is HoH that week and making a deal or somehow remaining safe by getting in their good graces. I mean, she did the same thing so the point wasn't as pointy as it could have been but she wasn't wrong. 

[hhawks]

My favorite part of eviction night is always when the Chenbot Moonvez takes six tiny steps toward the audience before the commercial break, proving that she can walk all by herself.  But still, she's never walked and talked all at the same time.

[Maverick]

 Big deal.   The Ben Franklin robot at EPCOT can walk up stairs.  

[mooses]

And how she's trying to prove she can be a Serious Broadcast Journalist with these extended interviews since she had to leave her role on The Talk. Like, I almost feel bad that she obviously has so much more time to keep up with the season because she even knows all the HGs names!

[vb68]

Can someone post a link to the extended Kat interview when it goes up? Thanks!

[hhawks]

5 minutes ago, Maverick said:

 Big deal.   The Ben Franklin robot at EPCOT can walk up stairs.  

And I'm sure the Ben robot doesn't need to rehearse.

[Brian Cronin]

21 minutes ago, mooses said:

Sounds like Kat went off on Nicole in the Storage Room. Nicole: "I have no idea why she said what she said in the Storage Room."

Kat kind of got all sorts of unlikeable the past couple days. And I loved her!

It's really absurd. Kat, more so than almost everyone there, knows how reality TV works, and yet in the end, she got caught up in the BS as much as anyone on these shows. "You don't want to be evicted? But if you're not evicted, then that means I get evicted!! How DARE you?!?" 

And, again, you could even write off some stuff like that as, again, just playing a role or whatever, but it sounds like this Nicole stuff was way beyond that. It's just a shame, as I was really rooting for Kat coming into this based on the articles I had read about her before the season. 

[hhawks]

1 minute ago, Brian Cronin said:

It's really absurd. Kat, more so than almost everyone there, knows how reality TV works, and yet in the end, she got caught up in the BS as much as anyone on these shows. "You don't want to be evicted? But if you're not evicted, then that means I get evicted!! How DARE you?!?" 

And, again, you could even write off some stuff like that as, again, just playing a role or whatever, but it sounds like this Nicole stuff was way beyond that. It's just a shame, as I was really rooting for Kat coming into this based on the articles I had read about her before the season. 

I'm considering her for America's Favorite Player, or America's Least Dislikeable Player.  I liked her exit interview with the Chenbot.

[Brian Cronin]

1 minute ago, hhawks said:

I'm considering her for America's Favorite Player, or America's Least Dislikeable Player.  I liked her exit interview with the Chenbot.

Sure, I think it is fair enough to not write off all of the good stuff she did in the house based on her final couple of days. But boy, those last couple of days were ROUGH.

[mooses]

5 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

It's really absurd. Kat, more so than almost everyone there, knows how reality TV works, and yet in the end, she got caught up in the BS as much as anyone on these shows. "You don't want to be evicted? But if you're not evicted, then that means I get evicted!! How DARE you?!?" 

Oh, yeah, and even during the berating Cliff stuff last night about loyalty, I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt: that could be a totally legitimate strategy - she's trying to make Cliff look untrustworthy to the other HGs. 

But she doubled down on it so many times, even after eviction, that she was clearly so unjustifiably offended and just a sore loser in the end. 

[Callaphera]

I dunno. Nicole seems to... catastrophize? For lack of a better word because it's not quite that severe? Some of the things that have happened in the house.

Don't get me wrong, she's gotten the fuzzy end of the lollipop a lot of times but I think about that whole Christie and Analyse laughing while Cliff was running during a comp thing and Nicole immediately jumping to the idea that they were being "mean girls" towards him when I actually kinda believe Christie and Analyse when they say that it more innocent on their end. 

I can't believe I just sided with Christie and the fucking chicken on something but here we are. 

[Brian Cronin]

In all seriousness, what is Jackson and Holly's plan going forward, besides the always hilarious "trading off HoHs"? Do they HAVE a plan? 

Edited August 16, 2019 by Brian Cronin

[Nashville]

Just now, Brian Cronin said:

In all seriousness, what is Jackson and Holly's plan going forward, besides the always hilarious "trading off HoHs"? Do they HAVE a plan? 

Hey, they never claimed it was a GREAT plan....

[Brian Cronin]

2 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Don't get me wrong, she's gotten the fuzzy end of the lollipop a lot of times but I think about that whole Christie and Analyse laughing while Cliff was running during a comp thing and Nicole immediately jumping to the idea that they were being "mean girls" towards him when I actually kinda believe Christie and Analyse when they say that it more innocent on their end. 

I'm sure Nicole has heard some of the stuff Analyse has legitimately said about Cliff, so I can forgive her a bit for making the leap in this instance (I do agree that she was offbase, but I think with the information she had available to her, it was a reasonable leap). 

[hhawks]

2 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I dunno. Nicole seems to... catastrophize? For lack of a better word because it's not quite that severe? Some of the things that have happened in the house.

Don't get me wrong, she's gotten the fuzzy end of the lollipop a lot of times but I think about that whole Christie and Analyse laughing while Cliff was running during a comp thing and Nicole immediately jumping to the idea that they were being "mean girls" towards him when I actually kinda believe Christie and Analyse when they say that it more innocent on their end. 

I can't believe I just sided with Christie and the fucking chicken on something but here we are. 

How delightful.  Just when you least expect it, a Marilyn Monroe in Some Like it Hot reference.

3 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I dunno. Nicole seems to... catastrophize? For lack of a better word because it's not quite that severe? Some of the things that have happened in the house.

Don't get me wrong, she's gotten the fuzzy end of the lollipop a lot of times but I think about that whole Christie and Analyse laughing while Cliff was running during a comp thing and Nicole immediately jumping to the idea that they were being "mean girls" towards him when I actually kinda believe Christie and Analyse when they say that it more innocent on their end. 

I can't believe I just sided with Christie and the fucking chicken on something but here we are. 

What a delight, out of the clear blue sky, to read a Marilyn Monroe in Some Like it Hot reference.

[Brian Cronin]

3 minutes ago, Nashville said:

Hey, they never claimed it was a GREAT plan....

It reminds me of this William Goldman classic (RIP, Goldman, you were one of the best ever!)

[Callaphera]

6 minutes ago, hhawks said:

How delightful.  Just when you least expect it, a Marilyn Monroe in Some Like it Hot reference.

We got some classy bitches up in this joint.

And then there's me.

[Nashville]

3 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

It reminds me of this William Goldman classic (RIP, Goldman, you were one of the best ever!)

My god, but I’ve always loved that bit.  And it is a phenomenal demonstration of the notion that a plan doesn’t have to be perfect, or even all that good - it just has to be good enough.

[Brian Cronin]

Oh shit, @hhawks reminded me that we're WAY into the season and I haven't found a way to work in a reference to Tootie from Meet Me In St. Louis yet!

Okay, how about this? Remember when Tootie told Esther that Esther's boyfriend had hit her? And she was just covering up the fact that he caught her and Agnes throwing a dress stuffed to make it look like it was a live body (and had actually helped them escape)? Well, Kat reminds me of that when she acted all betrayed by Cliff, when she was no "damsel in distress" in their dealings at all. Heck, Kat is a lot like Tootie period, so I guess I really DO love Kat. 

Edited August 16, 2019 by Brian Cronin

[mooses]

19 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

In all seriousness, what is Jackson and Holly's plan going forward, besides the always hilarious "trading off HoHs"? Do they HAVE a plan? 

I could, sadly, totally see Tommy/Analyse siding with them next week, even if Analyse is on the block this week, once they all realize The Outsiders are on the verge of outnumbering them. And, depending on who wins HOH, Tommy is deathly afraid of Cliff and could sway Nick/Analyse that way. I can see them both living another week (and then who knows) in a couple of difference scenarios, to my dismay. This is all assuming Christie is evicted, of course.

Edited August 16, 2019 by mooses

[Brian Cronin]

1 minute ago, mooses said:

I could, sadly, totally see Tommy/Analyse siding with them next week, even if Analyse is on the block this week, once they all realize The Outsiders are on the verge of outnumbering them. And, depending on who wins HOH, Tommy is deathly afraid of Cliff and could sway Nick/Analyse that way. I can see them both living another week in a couple of difference scenarios, to my dismay. This is all assuming Christie is evicted, of course.

Does Christie even go home up against Analyse? Why would Jess want Christie out over Analyse? Or Nicole? Or Cliff?

[hhawks]

2 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Oh shit, @hhawks reminded me that we're WAY into the season and I haven't found a way to work in a reference to Tootie from Meet Me In St. Louis yet!

Okay, how about this? Remember when Tootie told Esther that Esther's boyfriend had hit her? And she was just covering up the fact that he caught her and Agnes throwing a dress stuffed to make it look like it was a live body (and had actually helped them escape)? Well, Kat reminds me of that when she acted all betrayed by Cliff, when she was no "damsel in distress" in their dealings at all. 

Thanks Brian.  Now I'm going to sleep singing "If you like-a me like I like-a you, then we like-a both the same."

[Brian Cronin]

Also, if Nick wins POV, does he take Analyse down, knowing Tommy goes up in her place?

[mooses]

I think Christie is an automatic goner. At the very least, she's seen as strong player who can win this whole thing if she gets to the end, while Analyse is seen as a girl in a chicken costume. I think Nick/Holly/Cliff definitely want her gone over Analyse, and Nicole will be swayed by Cliff/Nick. Tommy might actually do a sympathy vote this time, though. So that's an exciting will he/won't he to be on the edge of our seats for!

2 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

Also, if Nick wins POV, does he take Analyse down, knowing Tommy goes up in her place?

I think Nick doesn't take Analyse down because he knows it's easier for Christie to go home against her than Tommy. He's totally aware that Cliff/Nicole/Jess all considered Tommy a bigger threat a couple weeks ago. 

[HurricaneVal]

I can't believe nobody here has mentioned that Julie's chair broke when she went to sit down with Kat for the interview.  The footrest/crossbrace just broke right out when Julie posted against it to lever herself back in the chair.

Apparently CBS doesn't just cheap out on the hamsters...they economize on the front of the house too.  Or maybe that was a message from management to Julie Chen-Moonves.

[mooses]

Tommy's probably praying (sorry, manifesting) that he doesn't get chosen for Veto this week. If he does, I bet he throws it and will never, ever admit it to anyone. If he wins it and he saves her, Nick goes up. If he wins it and doesn't save her, that's awkward.

Christie seems so much more loyal to him than he is to her.  She broke her vow of silence last night to yell at everyone about how great he is, while he can barely muster a nice word about her in any setting and has even said he wants her to put a target on her back. Maybe they're telling themselves the distance is to keep their relationship secret, but I just think he's not that as in to her being his #1 as she might think. 

[Brian Cronin]

2 minutes ago, HurricaneVal said:

Apparently CBS doesn't just cheap out on the hamsters...they economize on the front of the house too.  Or maybe that was a message from management to Julie Chen-Moonves.

"Chairs break. So do elevators. Maybe you don't want to actually finish out this contract."

[hhawks]

12 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

"Chairs break. So do elevators. Maybe you don't want to actually finish out this contract."

Elevators?  My that's harsh 

[Callaphera]

Since Jackson won HoH and is not in danger of slop, watch Have Nots magically come back for one week only!

[Callaphera]

Tommy talking about the BB21 cast as a whole: "I think everyone loves us!"
Me:

Loves. Loves to hate on. Same difference. 

[Callaphera]

Nick: "People shouldn't label others as bipolar so quickly just because they have mood swings."
Also Nick: "I'm going to diagnose that big bully Nicole on the fly because she told us the truth but we prefer the mob mentality: she's a sociopath. I'm so good at my job."
Also Nick: "Beating kids with belts is a generational thing and I feel bad for the grandparents when I have to report them for it."
Also Nick: insert every gross thing he's said or done in the house.

[Brian Cronin]

19 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Tommy talking about the BB21 cast as a whole: "I think everyone loves us!"
Me:

Loves. Loves to hate on. Same difference. 

"Yeah, that's why they picked Christie, Analyse and Jackson, they love us all SO much that they were upset at us fighting and threatening to break up our amazing alliance. That's why they voted for you guys, they just love us so much that they were upset that we might break up!"

[Callaphera]

1 minute ago, Brian Cronin said:

"Yeah, that's why they picked Christie, Analyse and Jackson, they love us all SO much that they were upset at us fighting and threatening to break up our amazing alliance. That's why they voted for you guys, they just love us so much that they were upset that we might break up!"

Nick: "Fuckin' day 44, bro. Bro, it's fucking relevancy, bro."